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"Anti-abortion Catholic Voters"
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Seems a little redundant to me , but hey, with Pelosi and Biden confusing everybody on what a Catholic should really stand for...a little clarity goes a long way.

Posted by: RSD at September 16, 2008 10:21 AM


Jill,

the politico link is broken:

http://http//www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Stirring_antiabortion_voters.html

Posted by: Jasper at September 16, 2008 10:29 AM


Thanks, Jasper. Fixed.

Posted by: Jill Stanek at September 16, 2008 10:37 AM


If the USA knows this and still elects Obama what will that say about the nation?

Posted by: Ezek13:19 at September 16, 2008 10:43 AM


I am going to do a new video to promote this because 99 percent of my viewers are very liberal animal lovers. It was hard trying to explain why I'm republican and an animal lover, but I think it created a few conservative viewers. Jill, I think you should become a partner on youtube, but either way, I'll advertise for you through my channel banner link and my video that I will do next. This video is inspired by jill's story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7YeNTI_dBU Please watch it, Jill because I really would like to know that you really had an effect and a major way.

Posted by: JamieNov81 at September 16, 2008 10:50 AM


i feel very honored to be one of those featured anti-abortion catholic voters! :)

Posted by: becky at September 16, 2008 10:54 AM


ooops....from ohio

Posted by: becky at September 16, 2008 10:55 AM


It is so important to get out the message that Obama supports these radical anti-life measures! Thank you for your message!

Jill, I cried the first time I listened to your story . God bless you for your courage and selfless love to sit with that baby, so he could know human love, before he died. I am the mother of nine living children, and have been involved in pro-life activities since 1973 when I was just ten years old, when my mother gave me one of those 'never to be forgotten' bracelets similar to what people wore until the POWs came home. God bless you for your work!

Something else to consider about this election is that Obama has literally promised to sign immediately the 'Freedom of Choice act' if elected-- more on the Freedom of Choice Act on my entry here:

http://moremomsformccain.blogspot.com/

I don't get the traffic you do here, but in some small way I hope to get the pro-life message out before voters cast their ballots in November. God bless--

Posted by: Theresa at September 16, 2008 10:58 AM


Ps. I'm going to link to your site if that's ok with you--would like my readers to see the Barack Obama stuff you have listed at the upper left hand corner.

Posted by: Theresa at September 16, 2008 11:00 AM


Theresa,
You have a beautiful blog!! :) Link away, my friend. Spreading the word is what Jill is all about. God bless you!

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 11:17 AM


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/15/obamas-teleprompter-hits-the-trail/

I'm sorry, but I've not seen anyone do this before.

Is this a common occurrence?

Posted by: Kel at September 16, 2008 11:36 AM


Seems weird to me...speeches are one thing. Town hall meetings are another. Bush was in my town in 2004 and we had a question and answer session. So awesome! All of us just gabbing with the Prez. :) Without a teleprompter.

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 11:45 AM


Have no fear, Kel. Someone will be along soon to defend Obama and his teleprompter and put down McCain and his.

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 11:57 AM


"I'm sorry, but I've not seen anyone do this before.

Is this a common occurrence?

Posted by: Kel at September 16, 2008 11:36 AM"
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Kel...I guess "they" don't want the Obaminator to make an a$$ of himself again by saying stuff "above his pay grade".

Posted by: RSD at September 16, 2008 12:02 PM


No, that was a serious question...IS that common, to have a teleprompter everywhere one speaks?

Because if it is common, then how is this news??

Posted by: Kel at September 16, 2008 12:03 PM


I was just shocked that CNN appears to be poking fun at Obama because of it. ;)

LOL- RSD, no doubt.

Posted by: Kel at September 16, 2008 12:04 PM


Seems weird to me...speeches are one thing. Town hall meetings are another. Bush was in my town in 2004 and we had a question and answer session. So awesome! All of us just gabbing with the Prez. :) Without a teleprompter.
Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 11:45 AM
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Lucky!! Gabbing with the Prez. LOL

Posted by: Kel at September 16, 2008 12:07 PM


I am Pro-Life...with that said...why has not one President try to make abortion illegal? Including George W. Bush...I am tired of presidents saying that they are Pro-Life but then they don't do anything about it when they are in office. If they have tried...prove it to me with resources please.

I want McCain to come out with the steps on how they plan on overturning this law!!!

If they can't overturn it as president...then WHY DO THEY USE IT TO WIN VOTES!!!

Posted by: Pro-Life for Life at September 16, 2008 12:38 PM


Pro-Life for Life,
Welcome!
I will give it a shot. I believe the answer lies with the Supreme Court justices. Bush has had a couple confirmed that would not legislate from the bench.(reinterpret the Constitution to include killing ones own child as a RIGHT)McCain would have to bring up more Supreme Court justices for confirmation that would not legislate from the bench.
The older the Supreme Court gets the more likely there are to be openings. They are confirmed for life.

That is just lil ol me talkin though! I do hear your frustration about it as well!!

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 12:43 PM


Y'all are big now ... you made it onto Scrappleface:
Sen. Obama today said that “While I suppose all life eventually becomes precious, that woman just proves that some lives are more precious than others.”
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=3110

For those who don't know, Scrappleface is a parody blog. Read it accordingly.

Nonetheless, there is an element of truth in their parody. Apparently, "hope" is something that Gianna should never have had ... or perhaps that answer would be above Obama's pay grade.

Posted by: Naaman at September 16, 2008 12:44 PM


To Carla and the rest:

You still need to put forth the effort and put it to vote and try...even if the final vote is 7-2 in favor of keeping Roe vs. Wade...
Perhaps if Regan would have started this then perhaps by now it may have been overturned...The "Mustard Seed" theory would have been planted in the hearts and minds long ago.

Posted by: Pro-Life for Life at September 16, 2008 12:55 PM


Pro-Life, I doubt if the Supreme Court would even agree to hear the case.

Posted by: Erin at September 16, 2008 12:58 PM


Then why does McCain or even Bush use it to win votes...IT DOES NOT MATTER...it is a non issue then...if nothing can be done about it.

Posted by: Pro-Life for Life at September 16, 2008 1:03 PM


Obama's Not Exactly's...

http://www.rense.com/general82/notex.htm

Mike

Posted by: Mike at September 16, 2008 1:04 PM


I agree, it is a non-issue.

Unfortunately, most of the PLers like to beat the dead horse anyway. *shrugs*

Posted by: Erin at September 16, 2008 1:05 PM



If the USA knows this and still elects Obama what will that say about the nation?
Posted by: Ezek13:19 at September 16, 2008 10:43 AM

That we generally think the decision whether to terminate a pregnancy or not should not be the Government's.

Posted by: Hal at September 16, 2008 1:15 PM


ProLife,
Something CAN be done about it. We can pray. That is first and foremost. We can urge those who have had abortions and regret them to fill out declarations at http://www.operationoutcry.org The largest body of friend of the court briefs so far is being gathered as evidence. They are used to further prolife legislation across the US, which Obama will overturn with the swipe of his pen on FOCA. We can also vote for a prolife president.

It is not a non issue. Call it a dead horse, Erin. Hardly makes it so. *shrugs*

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 1:33 PM


What we need is AN ABORTION CASE that will make it to the Supreme Court. :)

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 1:34 PM


To Carla...Then why didn't Bush and Regan try to do something about it...even if it failed...at least there is an attempt.

McCain, as did Bush and Regan...will not try to do anything because HE can't...

This IS a non-issue for politics...this is a major issue/debate for religion...

You know...GW was the gov. of TEXAS at one point...why did he not try to bring it back to the Supreme Court then.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 16, 2008 1:50 PM


Carla:

Don't waste your time on Pro-Life for Life who is actually Tom R:

Go here and you'll see this is a Liberal hack:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080916111218AAtnmAv

Posted by: HisMan at September 16, 2008 1:51 PM


To Carla...Then why didn't Bush and Regan try to do something about it...even if it failed...at least there is an attempt.

McCain, as did Bush and Regan...will not try to do anything because HE can't...

This IS a non-issue for politics...this is a major issue/debate for religion...

Carla...i agree that we need another case to go to the SC.
You know...GW was the gov. of TEXAS at one point...why did he not try to bring it back to the Supreme Court then.

Posted by: PLforL at September 16, 2008 1:52 PM


i make a valid point...why does my name matter???I am pro-life...God knows that and thats what matters.

you neve answered my question...carla...why vote for McCain because he is PRO-LIFE..if he can't change the Abortion Law he is only using that to win votes.
you got me...you know my name...like i was trying to hide it or something...

Posted by: Pro-Life for Life at September 16, 2008 1:57 PM


not a liberal hack...this is a simple non-bias question...read the whole question not just bits and pieces.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 16, 2008 1:59 PM


Hi Anonymous,
Pick a name, please. I do not have the answer for your questions. They are awesome questions for the candidates on the campaign trail!!!
If the Senate and the House do not allow judicial picks to have an up or down vote how can a president get his nominees through the process?

In 2001 I believe Norma McCorvey(the Roe of Roe V Wade)did try to get Roe V Wade overturned. The Supreme Court read and cited the declarations from The Justice Foundation in their brief. The extent of the problem(abortion hurting women)is not known they wrote. http://www.operationoutcry.org
One needs a case to be brought to the Supreme Court.

One can call it a non issue or a dead horse or say that nobody cares about the abortion issue. That doesn't make it so.

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 2:00 PM


I will vote for a candidate because he is prolife. The alternative is horrifying. When I consider the amount of legislation that my abortion story has helped to pass in many states, and Obama will wave bye-bye to....it makes me physically ill.

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 2:02 PM


i never brought up tom r. hisman did...you know who i am so why type my name in the box...i have my 4-month old baby boy in the left looking out the window...cuts down on time

Posted by: Anonymous at September 16, 2008 2:12 PM


Am i reading this right..."When I consider the amount of legislation that my abortion story has helped to pass in many states"
What does this mean???

I will reply sometime around 8:00 CST

Posted by: Anonymous at September 16, 2008 2:15 PM


My abortion story(along with hundreds of others) was brought to the Supreme Court when Norma McCorvey challenged Roe V Wade to be used as evidence that abortion hurts women. They are called declarations. Operation Outcry is a project of The Justice Foundation. Norma and Sandra(the Doe of Doe V Bolton)are clients of The Justice Foundation. Other states have asked to use these declarations(mine included)in their prolife legislation.

So my abortion story has helped to pass legislation in other states.

Make sense, Tom?

Posted by: Carla at September 16, 2008 2:34 PM


(From the scrappleface link)
"The Illinois Democrat said the question that American voters should ask themselves is this: “Are you better off now than you were 31 years ago before Gianna Jessen was inadvertently born? I know that I’m not.”

Now, that's the truth! :D

Posted by: Doyle Chadwick at September 16, 2008 2:54 PM


"If the USA knows this and still elects Obama what will that say about the nation?"

It will mark the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Jasper at September 16, 2008 2:56 PM


The fake prolifer asks: "If they can't overturn it as president...then WHY DO THEY USE IT TO WIN VOTES!!!"

A president, with help from congress can overturn Roe. It can be done either with a constitutional amendment or an act of congress which declares all unborn humans to be "people" under the 14th Amendment. S/he can also appoint SCOTUS justices who will interpret the constitution literally, rather than in the light of their political desires.

So yes, a president can overturn Roe, with a little help from congress.

Posted by: Doyle Chadwick at September 16, 2008 3:02 PM


"If the USA knows this and still elects Obama what will that say about the nation?"

It will mark the beginning of the end.
Posted by: Jasper at September 16, 2008 2:56 PM

Hyperventilate much Jasper? Beginning of the end. Oh my.

Maybe you mean, everything will pretty much stay the same, except more competent people will be in office.

Posted by: Hal at September 16, 2008 3:05 PM


Better an 80% Pro-life Pres and VP than a 100% Pro-abortion Pres and VP...

Posted by: RSD at September 16, 2008 3:14 PM


The concept of stare decisis (AKA the rule of precedent) means that it is foolish for pro-lifers to make frontal challenges to Roe until we're sure that we can win. Because each loss represents more "weight" of precedent that will make the Court that much less likely to overturn Roe. I know that sounds weird. Shouldn't the Court be willing to correct injustice, no matter how many previous Courts have agreed? Sadly, that's not how it works. Stare decisis can keep unjust decisions alive long after their time should have passed.....

Therefore, a sensible strategy to overturn Roe has to start by reclaiming the Supreme Court. Each pro-life President has tried to put strict-constructionist justices on the Court, but their efforts have met with mixed success. Justice Souter is a particularly-appalling example of a judge who turned activist after he arrived on the Court. Fortunately, pro-life Presidents are getting wiser now -- having been burned by experience -- and the Justices they manage to appoint seem to hold the written words of the Constitution in higher regard than their predecessors do.

Please note that we have not managed to reclaim the Court yet! Of the current Court members, only four Justices are likely anti-Roe votes: Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Thomas. (We won't actually know about Roberts or Alito until they get to face Roe head-on, but their votes in favor of the PBA Ban are reason to be hopeful.) Four other Justices are pro-Roe: Ginsburg, Stevens, Breyer, and Souter. Justice Kennedy is the "swing" vote on abortion. Kennedy voted with the majority to sustain the PBA Ban, so he is open to the pro-life cause. However, Kennedy has previously indicated support for Roe's "core holding" and must therefore be considered a pro-Roe vote. A little bit of guesswork indicates that we probably have a 5-4 pro-Roe majority on the Court right now. Until we can see one more Justice replaced with a strict constructionist, challenging Roe directly is likely to fail.

That's why pro-life Presidents don't make head-on challenges to Roe right now. They would be counter-productive and unsuccessful. Wait for one more Justice.....

Posted by: Naaman at September 16, 2008 3:37 PM


Naaman @ 3:37,

"The concept of stare decisis (AKA the rule of precedent) means that it is foolish for pro-lifers to make frontal challenges to Roe until we're sure that we can win."

Can you give examples of what you mean by "frontal challenges to Roe"? Thank you.

Posted by: Janet at September 16, 2008 4:40 PM


TO CLARA and the Doyle:
Thank you...I really learned something...now why couldn't Bush or Regan pass legislation?
Look...all I am saying here is I want abortion stopped (and all pills and machines off the black market) but I also hate that past presidents (including Clinton) have not even attempted to be overturned...perhaps if Regan or Carter would have started...then perhaps today...it would be such a debate among voters that that would put more pressure on the SC. Even if you take out the Dems...that gives you 8 years of Regan...4 for Bush elder and 8 of GW...20 years and nothing from the top? At least try...How many times did Abe fail? He never gave up!
No pressure from the top equals no reason to change!

Now as far as saying I am not Pro-Life...I want it stopped...why are you calling me a fake?

My wife and I are attending the prayer service called "40 days of Life" it runs from 9/24-11/2...volunteers will pray at the Albany Medical Center abortion clinic at 5086 N. Elston Ave. in Chicago...

I oppose people using Pro-life to get people to vote for them if they can't do anything about it once they are in office...for the record...McCain is not the only one running for President who is Pro-Life.

Doyle...I will pray that you believe people when they say they are Pro-life...
As far as the name thing goes...I thought I was creative...not trying to hide my name...If I was trying to hide my name then yahoo answers would not have it...heck I will invite you over to talk politics if you want.

Bottom line...we can't have the views on abortion as the number 1 reason on why we pick McCain or Baldwin...if they can't do anything about it...for the record McCain does believe in certain types of abortion...read the link...
He states that abortion is fine in cases of rape and incest...can't debate it...thats from him:
http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm

Posted by: Pro-Life for Life at September 16, 2008 9:31 PM


Jasper you make an interesting point...God has all this planned out...God has a plan...Read Matthew Chapter 24 to give some support to the beginning of the end which already started...Jesus calls it out.

Posted by: Tom and yes I am Pro-Life at September 16, 2008 9:37 PM


Pro-Life for Life,

GOD BLESS YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS FOR LIFE AND WITNESS AT THE ABORTION CLINIC!

If you haven't read this yet, this is a compelling document on "Faithful Citizenship" by the USCCB (US Council of Catholic Bishops). Please consider it before you vote and pass it on to your fellow pro-lifers and parishioners. Thank you. :)
http://www.usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/FCStatement.pdf

Posted by: Janet at September 17, 2008 3:45 PM