Yesterday WorldNetDaily.com covered the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point incident, wherein pro-abort Student Government Association member Roderick King vandalized a display of memorial crosses placed with permission by the campus group Pointers for Life.
The WND article included commenters to my post on King from TexasRed Bobby Bambino and Rae Patricia from Canada...
But worse is the fact that despite the students' complaint, the Student Government Association has declined to take action."So much for choice..." wrote TexasRed on Stanek's forum page.
"Wow! All I can say is welcome to the abortion debate Canadian-style," wrote Rae. "We can't protest or debate abortion in Canada because it's considered a basic human right (since when?)." Never mind that the human baby doesn't have even the basic human right to life.
"This man has serious anger problems. I wonder how many unborn baby skeletons he has in his closet...?" she wrote.
Actually, I was thinking the same thing Rae.
WND included more background info on the story:
The campus group Pointers for Life had put up the Cemetery of the Innocents display last week, then spent the next morning repairing the damage from someone who had vandalized the field of rows of white crosses representing the victims of abortion.
Then they were trashed a second time, only this time the pro-life campaigners were armed with a video camera.As students looked on, King led a group of angry students by walking through the rows of crosses and plucking them from the ground and tossing them.
Campus security was summoned, and when an officer arrived, most of the students left. King did not.
See video of King's illegal temper tantrum here.
The Wausau Daily Herald also has more coverage here and here, as does Michelle Malkin.
[Photos courtesy of the Wausau Daily Herald]
Comments:
Pssst, Jill....you're quoting Patricia, not Rae.
Posted by: Hieronymous at May 8, 2008 8:04 AMWait....there's a campus group called "Pointers for Life?" What does that mean? Is there another group called "Setters for Life?"
Posted by: Hieronymous at May 8, 2008 8:06 AMHiero, what? WND was quoting Patricia, not Rae?
Posted by: Jill Stanek at May 8, 2008 8:10 AMYeah, if you look at the first several comments, you'll see that it's Patricia that's being quoted in the WND column, but they attributed it to Rae.
Ah, I see. You're right. Sorry, Patricia! Will alert WND.
Posted by: Jill Stanek at May 8, 2008 8:12 AMHey, that goes for me too! I wrote "So much for choice..." not TR. I think WND thought that the commentators were the names written ABOVE the post, not below. So they would say that Jill Stanek wrote this post. I think that's how they're confused.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 8, 2008 8:16 AMHahahahahahahaha.
Yes, while I'm from Minnesota, Minnesota =/= Canada.
That's really funny...
Posted by: Rae at May 8, 2008 8:37 AMI was wondering the same myself. If they were REALLY quoting TR, the screen would have melted.
Posted by: carder at May 8, 2008 8:45 AMBe nice, carder. ;)
Posted by: Andy at May 8, 2008 8:58 AMI'm saying whatever the post below me says.
Posted by: Cranky Catholic at May 8, 2008 8:59 AMCongratulations Bobby and Patricia. Humility obvioulsy involves not worrying about who get credit for speaking the truth.
Think about it though. How ironic that TR got credit for claiming to say...."So much or choice....".
Divine revenge is sweet though, isn't it and ironic?
Posted by: HisMan at May 8, 2008 9:14 AM"Humility obvioulsy involves not worrying about who get credit for speaking the truth."
Right on, HisMan.
"Think about it though. How ironic that TR got credit for claiming to say...."So much or choice...."."
I'm REALLY surprised that Jill didn't notice that... :)
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 8, 2008 9:24 AMRae:
I would have had no trouble believeing the post was by you, but TR, not a chance.
Posted by: HisMan at May 8, 2008 9:34 AMFeel the love and tolerance!!
Posted by: lesforlife at May 8, 2008 9:49 AMI don't think pro-aborts realize the anger they unleash is really, as Obama would say, "the morally wrenching" issues they are struggling with inside themselves. Then they unleash it on peaceful pro-life people. They should legislate these attacks as a hate crime.
Posted by: truthseeker at May 8, 2008 9:59 AMThe knocked down crosses are a very effective visual representing the reckless nature of abortion. I say leave them right where they've landed on the ground as a symbol of each baby's life which has been tossed away.
Posted by: Janet at May 8, 2008 10:11 AMThat isn't right. I wish pro-choicers and pro-lifers would respect one another's right to demonstrate.
I apologize on behalf of these people.
Posted by: Leah at May 8, 2008 10:16 AMThanks, Leah.
Posted by: carder at May 8, 2008 10:26 AMYes, Leah,
Thank you.
Posted by: mk at May 8, 2008 10:33 AMI got confused myself, Bobby. I thought there must be another Rae who lived in Canada, and I thought TR was being open minded for once.
I just checked and WND took out both Rae and TR's names and made them "contributors." But you'll get credit here!
Posted by: Jill Stanek at May 8, 2008 10:48 AMI read some of the comments on Michelle Malkin's piece on this and one guy has no clue about a child's development before birth. He says there's no heart beat or brain waves when most abortions are performed. The fact is, the heart begins to beat at 22 days after conception. And Brain waves can be detected as early as 40 days.
You have to wonder if Mr. King lost a sibling to abortion or something like that and this is his way of expressing his anger over it.
Posted by: LizFromNebraska at May 8, 2008 11:11 AM"Doug could verify how well I behave myself here. "
Posted by: TexasRed at May 8, 2008 11:07 AM
Humor me, Doug.
Posted by: carder at May 8, 2008 11:13 AMI want Roderick King to pick weeds from my lawn. I bet he's good at it.
Posted by: Cranky Catholic at May 8, 2008 11:26 AMAnd if the brain keeps developing, TR?
Posted by: Carla at May 8, 2008 11:29 AMIf the brain keeps developing, eventually you are no longer an anti-choice extremist.
Posted by: anonymous at May 8, 2008 11:50 AMAnd if the brain keeps developing, TR?
Posted by: Carla at May 8, 2008 11:29 AM
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Then you have a functional cerebral cortex at about the same point in gestation as potential viability and by then abortion is fundamentally a moot point.
If the brain keeps developing, eventually you are no longer an anti-choice extremist.
Posted by: anonymous at May 8, 2008 11:50 AM
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heheheh!
"Doug could verify how well I behave myself here. "
Posted by: TexasRed at May 8, 2008 11:07 AM
Humor me, Doug.
Posted by: carder at May 8, 2008 11:13 AM
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Doug and I first 'met'at the Free Speech Zone discussion boards and chat room on AOL, when I was using the s/n Varid. And Free Speech meant exactly that. We could say exactly what we wanted to. And I did.
I think the guys action was stupid and pointless. But it doesnt alter the fact that there are pages and pages of examples of antichoicers committing acts of violence - and that includes what? 7 murders? - against people who are pro choice. No one was hurt by this bozo pulling up wooden crosses. Its hard to compare that to setting a building on fire, or boming a building, or shooting someone.
Posted by: TexasRed at May 8, 2008 12:12 PMThe insults in here are getting ridiculous. Instead of insulting anonymous or TR back, I think I'll get my Rosary out and listen to my MP3 player with the Sorrowful Rosary right now.
Posted by: LizFromNebraska at May 8, 2008 12:32 PM" I think I'll get my Rosary out and listen to my MP3 player with the Sorrowful Rosary right now."
But today is the Luminous mysteries! :)
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 8, 2008 12:50 PM" I think I'll get my Rosary out and listen to my MP3 player with the Sorrowful Rosary right now."
But today is the Luminous mysteries! :)
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 8, 2008 12:50 PM
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Id recommend Metallica - but thats just me
Or maybe some Kitaro -
The really disturbing thing about this incident is that the proabort terrorist who destroyed the display seems to have the full backing and support of the administration of that university. That suggests that other proaborts will be encouraged to do likewise in the future.
Posted by: Doyle at May 8, 2008 1:02 PMI know its Luminous Mysteries, but I downloaded the Sorrowful to recite during Lent. And since its an abortion related issue, Sorrowful is more appropriate.
Why would I listen to rock music?
Now I can listen to Kelly Clarkson's "Breakaway".
Posted by: LizFromNebraska at May 8, 2008 1:05 PMI think the guys action was stupid and pointless. But it doesnt alter the fact that there are pages and pages of examples of antichoicers committing acts of violence - and that includes what? 7 murders? - against people who are pro choice. No one was hurt by this bozo pulling up wooden crosses. Its hard to compare that to setting a building on fire, or boming a building, or shooting someone.
Anti-pro-aborts have killed seven people in 35 years across the USA? One for every five years. How many murders were committed in Texas last year? Well, 2007 statistics on murders are not yet available, but in 2000, according to the source below, there were 1,230 murders in Texas, a rate of 5.9 per 100,000. I'd say you are in more danger living in your own state of Texas than being an abortionist in the rest of the country. I'm guessing most of those murders were not committed by pro-lifers either.
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/txcrime.htm
Give up on your ridiculous talk about murdering PL'rs all ready, TR. You could always go back to your Free Speech Zone if it's still there. They must miss you terribly.
Liz, I'm with you. Time for a rosary. The sorrowful mysteries are appropriate after blogging here.
Posted by: Janet at May 8, 2008 1:07 PMA pro-abort terrorist? Are you serious?
This is a college kid. Can any of you even COUNT the amount of stupid things you did while you were in college? At the most, this kid is guilty of poor judgment.
It's ridiculous to call an opinionated college student a terrorist.
Posted by: Erin at May 8, 2008 1:08 PM@Erin: Stop supporting turr you evil, evil liberal. ;-p
Posted by: Rae at May 8, 2008 1:19 PM"But it doesnt alter the fact that there are pages and pages of examples of antichoicers committing acts of violence - and that includes what? 7 murders? "
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..as compared to examples (documented and undocumented) of so-called doctors/ abortionists committing acts of violence on the unborn (and sometimes the mothers, too) - which number into what? - MILLIONS?
Posted by: RSD at May 8, 2008 1:19 PMAh now we understand why TR is the way she is!
It's all that Metallica music. I knew there had to be a reason.....
Patricia,
..that's ONE reason....*LOL*
Posted by: RSD at May 8, 2008 2:07 PMRae, lol I love you! "turr" haha...
Guys, really, the only person who looked like an ass in this situation was the college student. I really don't see what the big deal is..since he didn't do anything except make himself look bad. I say let the pro-choicers walk around and have their temper tantrums..it just makes them look loony.
Posted by: Elizabeth at May 8, 2008 2:13 PM"I know its Luminous Mysteries, but I downloaded the Sorrowful to recite during Lent. And since its an abortion related issue, Sorrowful is more appropriate."
I know, I was just kiddin, Liz.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 8, 2008 2:13 PM"@Erin: Stop supporting turr you evil, evil liberal. ;-p"
"Rae, lol I love you! "turr" haha..."
Argh, I'm an old man, I don't get it...
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at May 8, 2008 2:16 PMNeither do I Bobby and I AM old! lol
Posted by: Patricia at May 8, 2008 2:22 PMI believe in the power of these outdoor crosses/signs on Abortion. When we did our first display a couple of years back on the Parish front lawn...our asst. parish priest commended us on it due to the 'quality' of confessions heard by him at the time the display was up. We had about 50 crosses and 1 big sign.
Our Parish priest mentioned that there was a 'handful' of complaints and we thought we won't be allowed to re-do the displays again.
Then PP (Aurora) came in, and the rest is history.
Not only did we double the number of crosses, we now have 3 big signs!
From what I heard from the Parish grapevine, at least 1 highschool teen contemplating abortion changed her mind because of the display.
Posted by: RSD at May 8, 2008 3:11 PM"Argh, I'm an old man, I don't get it..."
@Bobby: Say "terror" with a really strong, fake Texas accent.
How does it sound? It sounds like "turr". Now who often speaks with a really strong Texas accent and says the word "terror" a lot?
:-p
Posted by: Anonymous at May 8, 2008 3:39 PMOh goodness Anon@3:39pm
That's too funny!!!
I was talking to my mom just now and she was saying how she had this dream when she was trying to get pregnant and she kept her baby in the fridge. She said she'll never forget that dream.
Remember, for maximum freshness, keep baby refrigerated after popping it out your va-jay-jay!
Posted by: Erin at May 8, 2008 4:45 PMErin,
Would keeping said baby in a glad plastic bag help the freshness last longer?
It says so on the box.
Posted by: Elizabeth at May 8, 2008 5:43 PMTR,
Why does every post have to revolve around you and your childish retorts?
It's abvious you could care less about anyone but yourself.
And as a claimed counselor, you know there is little hope for a narciccist.
Posted by: HisMan at May 8, 2008 6:26 PMI was talking to my mom just now and she was saying how she had this dream when she was trying to get pregnant and she kept her baby in the fridge. She said she'll never forget that dream.
Remember, for maximum freshness, keep baby refrigerated after popping it out your va-jay-jay!
Posted by: Erin at May 8, 2008 4:45 PM
Perhaps theres a frozen embryo conception somewhere in the family's future.
Posted by: Anonymous at May 8, 2008 8:47 PMabove post was ts
Posted by: truthseeker at May 8, 2008 8:48 PMMy mom and dad tried IVF for years before they finally adopted my brother and I, ts.
Posted by: Erin at May 8, 2008 9:22 PMI say let the pro-choicers walk around and have their temper tantrums..it just makes them look loony.
LOL, oh the irony.
Posted by: Edyt at May 9, 2008 12:04 AMMy mom and dad tried IVF for years before they finally adopted my brother and I, ts.
Posted by: Erin at May 8, 2008 9:22 PM
that would explain the dream then Erin
Posted by: truthseeker at May 9, 2008 2:28 AMWhy do you have to tell lies Hissieman? I never claimed I was a counselor but I do know there is no help for your egocentricity, megalomania and narcissism. How is saying 'Let each woman make up her own mind' thinking of no one but myself?
"I was raised as a southern baptist, I have a degree in psychology and sociology and more graduate hours than I want to admit in counseling and guidance since Im not likely to ever get my masters."
Posted by: TexasRed at April 18, 2008 3:02 PM (AuschWeitz thread)
TexasRed stated "...But it doesnt alter the fact that there are pages and pages of examples of antichoicers committing acts of violence - and that includes what? 7 murders? - against people who are pro choice."
Please stop hijaking the word CHOICE. I can be "pro-choice" and choose life. Labeling anyone that chooses life over death as anti-choice is IGNORANT.
How does the very wrong murdering of 7 doctors terminating lives compare to their murder of 54,000,000+, that's 54 million, living pre-born, living partial birth, and living fully born babies?
Posted by: theonlything2fear at May 10, 2008 12:38 PMTexasRed: "Doug could verify how well I behave myself here. "
Carder: Humor me, Doug.
Hey Carder, a week or two ago you mentioned, on a particular thread, that "Doug will probably have his 12 cents to add" - something to that efffect. Ha! I loved it, and laugh about it still.
Iva is abrasive at times, yes, but she is often factually correct, versus the erroneous information we often see in the context of the abortion debate, and versus the straw men arguments that she has often come up against from the pro-life side.
Like all of us, she makes her own bed, then has to lie in it....
Posted by: Doug at May 12, 2008 12:32 AM
