Just out, Planned Parenthood’s newest “Choice on Earth” cards
Earlier this month Planned Parenthood issued its 13th annual “Choice on Earth” anti-Christmas cards, as I reported here.
Apparently, I overlooked a couple….
Actually, these are just suggestions for PP from The Curt Jester, but I like them, I really like them. See more at Curt’s site.
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Dec.21, 2007 11:45 am |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8hiUFO0CT8o
You may find this interesting…
Nathan,
That video was GREAT! Thanks.
On some of those crosses the crossbar looks as long or longer than the post.
I still can’t get past the parent-and-child images from an organiation that’s about preventing people from becoming parents, that looks on children as vermin to be exterminated rather than as blessings to be celebrated.
And I just noticed — each card is ONE parent with ONE child. Not a family to be seen. What’s with that?
“And I just noticed — each card is ONE parent with ONE child. Not a family to be seen. What’s with that?”
LOL!!! Not very good planning huh?!
Thanks for the video Nathan.
thats Choice on earth for ya Doug.
I still can’t get past the parent-and-child images from an organiation that’s about preventing people from becoming parents, that looks on children as vermin to be exterminated rather than as blessings to be celebrated.
And I just noticed — each card is ONE parent with ONE child. Not a family to be seen. What’s with that?
Posted by: Christina at December 21, 2007 6:09 PM
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What do you have against planning parenthood? What do you have against single parenthood? Do you think that every pregnancy comes along with a daddy? Ask Elizabeth about that.
“And I just noticed — each card is ONE parent with ONE child. Not a family to be seen. What’s with that?”
The shirt would look too busy if you included the mom, grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles, ect…
Sally, Planned Parenthood, contrary to the name, isn’t about planning parenthood. It’s about AVOIDING parenthood. A friend of mine, back when she was still “prochoice”, went to Planned Parenthood asking for advice on how to get into the best health for starting a family. “We don’t do that,” they told her. And, prochoice though she was, she felt betrayed by an organization that called itself Planned Parenthood but offered exactly zero services to somebody who was actually planning parenthood.
Look at their services. Abortion and contraception. Abortion and contraception. Abortion and contraception. Do you see a single thing for anybody who is actually planning to become a parent?
Last time I checked, it took two people to reproduce. Even if you go to a sperm bank, somebody has to jack off into a paper cup for you.
Christina,
Good point. In addition PP has also covered up the crimes of predators.
There is the case of Allen Gault, a 41 year old dog trainer from West Hartford, Connecticut who took a 15y/o girl to the local PP for an abortion. Most people would find this suspicious but apparently not the staff at PP.
Only later, no thanks to the clinic, was it discovered that this girl was a 15y/o runaway being held captive in a storage space under the stairway of a home Gault shared with 2 other “girlfriends”. I have no idea how old they were. The runaway had been impregnanted by Gault.
How many young girls have been sent back to predators, and how many predators have had their crimes covered up and have been able to continue their predatory behavior thanks to the silence of PP and other abortion providers?
There is the case of Allen Gault, a 41 year old dog trainer from West Hartford, Connecticut who took a 15y/o girl to the local PP for an abortion.
If he’d taken her to church, would you condemn all churches?
Doug,
Excuse me? She was brought to a PP clinic for an abortion, something I think few churches do.
He was an older man with a pregnant minor. Did anyone demand ID or proof that he was her parent or legal guardian? Did anyone at the very least have any suspicions and act on them?
The young woman could have been taken aside, offered protection and help and questioned. A social service agency could have been called upon to investigate. The police could have been called to investigate. You and I could do the same Doug for any situation we are suspicious of. Instead, a runaway being held captive was sent home with her captor, to be subjected to imprisonment and more sexual abuse and very possibly killed. Who knows what this animal was capable of?
Thankfully she was found and rescued, but it was not thanks to PP that she was.
Also, there is another case involving a 13y/o girl and her soccer coach. She only presented a school ID. Again, no questions asked. I understand the parents have filed a lawsuit against PP.
Sure, Mary, but impugning all of PP for the actions of a very few people is no different than blaming the church for the action of a relative few.
I am pointing out examples where PP enabled sexual predators and how easily it can happen. I don’t believe these cases were exceptions, they were just the ones we heard of. One can only speculate on how many times this has happened and no one was held accountable.
The sexual predator was off the hook, and free to prey on other young girls.
I know personally of a 15y/o girl taken to an abortion clinic by her stepfather, who had been sexually abusing her. Again, no questions asked and no action taken. The slime began molesting her again in the car on the way home.
Well good grief, you talk about “enabling sexual predators” – the (Catholic) church is there. Still doesn’t mean the whole deal is without merit.
In the case of the 15 year old abused by her father, he should have gotten his due whether or not he took her anywhere.
Well good grief, you talk about “enabling sexual predators” – the (Catholic) church is there. Still doesn’t mean the whole deal is without merit.
In the case of the 15 year old abused by her father, he should have gotten his due whether or not he took her anywhere.
http://childpredators.com/
Doug,
At least the priests and the church had to answer for the crimes and are still shelling out restitution to victims. Can the same be said of PP?
If anything I’d say there is a difference between failing to prevent a thing or the reoccurrence of the thing and supporting the thing.
Doug,
I in no way excuse the sexual abuse that occured where priests and the Catholic Church were concerned. I’m saying this was made public and restitution is still being paid to victims. The same cannot be said of PP.
Well, I hear that, but with PP there is no organized “plan” to protect abusers.
If some people mess up, it can be really bad, yes, same as for most anything. The Catholic Church demonstrated an effort to conceal abuse, move abusive priests around rather than kick them out or expose them to prosecution, etc.
Not to pick on the RCC, specifically, but it’s a good example. When such huge numbers of people are involved, there are always going to be some such cases.
In the 1960s or 1970s (I can’t remember which) – within the Boy Scouts of America, there was one Scoutmaster being kicked out every two days because of child abuse.
Sounds horrendous but there were just so many people in the deal that it happened. Surprised me too, at first, but I guess that’s the way it goes – and there I do think it’s “for the worse.”
Doug
Did you read Bethany’s posts Doug? No organized plan? Predators are being protected by PP, whether this is organized or not is irrelevant. Its happening. I don’t see one situation as any more acceptable than the next.
Mary, “nothing is perfect.” Generalizing from the particular is not proof about the whole.
If abuse is occurring and if laws are being broken there, then I’m all for stopping it, but that is no indictment of PP.
Doug,
I didn’t generalize. I have no way of knowing if a widespread cover up is going on or not. I only pointed out a couple of situations. It should be cause for concern though and at the very least investigated. There may be more incidents like this, there may not. Let’s look into it and find out.
Mary, perhaps it’s not a big deal, but where you said, Predators are being protected by PP I think you did indeed generalize.
No I made the statement and backed it up with two examples. Predators are being protected and perhaps an investigation is in order to determine to what extent this is happening.
If those two guys are still being protected by PP, then I would agree with you, Mary, but I don’t think that’s the case.
No they’re not being protected, they’ve been caught. One is being sued, the other faces criminal charges. In neither case was PP to be thanked for their help or cooperation.
Their silence enabled these two lowlifes in the first place and I would think there are grounds for an investigation. I’m sure PP would only be too happy to cooperate and prove their innocence once and for all. In fact, I would think they would absolutely insist on it.
So we’re right back to the comparison with the Catholic Church.
Doug,
What comparison? The RCC has been investigated, raked over the coals, priests have been tossed, and restitution has and is being paid to victims. I have no problem with this.
If PP is so innocent, I would think they would want and even insist on an investigation to clear their name once and for all and to weed out people who are negligent when it comes to child predators.
Mary, just that the RCC did stonewall a lot. I don’t mean to take shots at the church – it does seem to have died down there, but the idea is the same – painting the whole organization with the same brush when it’s really just a case of a relatively few individuals, a very, very few in PP’s case.
It was NOT a relatively few in PP’s case. Did you listen to the phone calls that Life Dynamics made – eight hundred of them- and the trained answers that came back virtually every single time?
“Oh you’re 12 and your boyfriend is 21? No, we surely won’t tell anyone.”
It doesn’t seem like a “relative few” who are actively protecting rapists. Go to http://www.childpredators.com for the actual calls..you can listen for yourself.
Also, check out this testimony of a girl who posted a message at the Planned Parenthood website-you can still find it in the web archives:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041022181955/http://www.ppgg.org/action/stories.asp?ID=15
I’m going to go ahead and cut and paste it here:
It Keeps Us Safe
I was raped at 11, by my 17 year old boyfriend. I chose not to tell my parents because I didn’t think their involvement would help, that was the right choice for me. Planned Parethood helped me deal with the aftermath of the rape allowing me to deal and cope as best as I could in my own way. I was 14 when I decided to start having sex, the day I made that choice I made an appointment to get birth control pills. I’m 17 now, I’ve been with my current boyfriend for about two years. During that time i’ve been HIV and STD tested four times. Right now I’m sitting in the waiting room while my boyfriend gets the results for his HIV test. We love each other so we’re responsible and Planned Parenthood helps us to do that.
– name withheld –
This one is long, but very interesting:
From :http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27687
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WND Exclusive Planned Parenthood
concealing crimes?
Investigation says sex by men with underage girls ‘epidemic’
Posted: May 21, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jon Dougherty
Another long but good one:
From CWFA
http://www.cwalac.org/article_514.shtml:
Behind Closed Doors: Planned Parenthood
Oh and here is the video of Lila Rose’s undercover investigation of PP, which Jill posted about a few months ago and is mentioned in the above article:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EatmoUdpoFs
An example of one of the over 800 calls made to Planned Parenthoods across the nation – virtually all of them were exactly the same- almost as though the people speaking were trained to answer this way. The girl never made any implication that her parents might be abusive if they found out she was pregnant, and did NOT lead them to say anything out of the ordinary, by any means.
” Planned Parenthood: “You just gave me more information than what I needed, OK.”
Girl: “Oh.”
Planned Parenthood: “Which was not a good thing, OK. The fact that your boyfriend is 22 and the fact you’re 14, that makes us mandated, we’re mandated reporters. That means we have to report that.”
Girl: “So if you didn’t know, it would be OK?”
Planned Parenthood: “It’s not that it’s OK, it’s just what we don’t know, we don’t know.”
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Another example call:
“Girl: “I
Another article, from http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200506030803.asp:
June 03, 2005, 8:03 a.m.
Planned Parenthood Perversity
A cautionary tale of abortion-rights extremism.
Can you say
In a nutshell- Child predators have a good friend in Planned Parenthood.
Found some more information of interest from the Planned Parenthood taped investigation:
http://www.grtl.org/plannedparenthood.asp
“An employee at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Okolona, Kentucky, when asked if the clinic would report the 22-year old boyfriend, replied,
So what do you tell a 14 year old on the phone? “Come in and be sure to bring your boyfriend with you. We’ll have the cops arrest him just as soon as you get here,”?
TR,
No, you tell her to come in, if possible bring her boyfriend, find out who he is and the circumstances and then notify the police, as required by state law.
TR,
No, you tell her to come in, if possible bring her boyfriend, find out who he is and the circumstances and then notify the police, as required by state law.
Posted by: Mary at December 24, 2007 2:32 PM
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You show that the antichoice position is a lot more about trying to punish people than trying to help anyone
So what’s the problem with punishing rapists, TR?
TR,
Its about protecting minor girls from predators, and yes punishing the predators, who will not limit their predatory behavior to just one girl. How are minor girls helped when they are sent home to be preyed upon again? Do you have a problem with punishing sexual predators TR?
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