Church hosts “Pro-choice Lobby Day”
Yesterday Denver’s Central Presbyterian Church hosted the state capital’s annual “Pro-choice Lobby Day.”
Pro-lifers from the Collaborator’s Project, a group launched to stop Planned Parenthood from building a 50,000 sq. ft. mega-mill in the Mile High City, showed up to remind lobbyists exactly what they were supporting.
Reported organizer Will Duffy in an email alert, “The front parking meter opened up as soon as the protest started. Perfect place for the truth truck, courtesy of The Weitz Company, of course.”
Weitz is PP’s general contractor. Duffy et al have been picketing homes of senior management for months.
Duffy reported getting many signatures from passersby for CO’s personhood ballot initiative, making double good use of valuable pro-life time.
Duffy concluded that lobby day participants got the distinct message, “No child killing with tranquility!” Great work.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Good for them. Bring on the hysterics.
I think that’s great!
Awesome work!!
pwned.
Only in America! These guys are GREAT!!
Well done!
Well, whatever. I know for sure I wouldn’t want such negative energy outside of my church, but whatever you’re into.
Better negative energy outside the church than inside, no?
Great work, Will! For every knuckle-dragging cretin you impress with your mutilated fetus/porn show, you offend and alienate 999 normal people.
Thanks for helping keep abortion safe and legal!
a church supporting pro choice position? I guess God might not hate abortion after all.
Yes, Hal, and God must be in favor of racism and hatred, too. Just look at Obama’s church.
oh, good. I’m not the first to bring up Obama today.
Hal, glad I could help you get your jollies.
That’s all you do John. Have a nice weekend everyone, especially those of you for whom it has special significance.
You’re welcome, Hal. Now go wash your hands off.
I know a couple of other churches that truck could park in front of….24/7.
You see, we won’t let anyone forget about abortion.
a church supporting pro choice position? I guess God might not hate abortion after all.
Posted by: Hal at March 21, 2008 5:23 PM
Hal:
You have a way of subtly insulting every God-fearing Christian on this site by your blasphemous comments.
No true follower of God or Christ would be a pro-abort.
His Man, right! Nice to see you.
I don’t even get affected by abortion photos anymore. Before, I was just grossed out by the blood. Now, I just shrug and move on my way. I don’t think it does any good to show those photos, only because people get desensitized to them and they don’t really do anything.
You want to picket, fine. You have a right to do that.
What’s not ok is bringing those photos to inappropriate areas. Outside of a clinic that performs abortions? Sure. Outside of a pro-choice church or Disneyland? Not so much.
Stephaie, do think its appropriate to do that to unborn children?
But Stephanie, shouldn’t the parishioners at pro-abortion churches know what they’re supporting? Or would you rather that they remain ignorant?
Colorado has lots of post-Christian “churches”.
“You have a way of subtly insulting every God-fearing Christian on this site by your blasphemous comments.”
But I only mean it with you, HisMan
Hosting a pro-abort Lobby day IN A CHURCH????
I don’t know what makes me more sick to my stomach: Looking at those dear little babies who were slaughtered, or knowing that a church, who SUPPOSEDLY worships the Lord is condoning this.
How disgusting and pathetic. What on earth was that church thinking??? Hypocrites! I’m really ticked off here…
BUT…Thank God for the Pro-lifers from the Collaborator’s Project! What a tremendous light to shine on the darkness (abortion & the Central Presbyterian Church)! Great job, guys & gals!
WOW!!!
Immediately after I posted the above, I read the Good Friday quote of the day.
“Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
They certainly don’t, and I certainly will pray for them…
Do your homework pro-lifers. The Presbyterian Church is very pro-choice and defends abortion.
Mike, there are Presbyterian Churches that are hard core pro-life and those like the one above. I don’t think you can make such a blanket statement.
Well, according to a quick internet search, the “official” view of the Presbyterian Church (USA) is pro-choice. I didn’t know that. There’s something called the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) that is strongly pro-life. This issue does tend to divide people.
I based that “blanket statement” on exactly what Hal said…the “official” view from an internet search.
Colorado doesn’t mess around. I like that.
I’d move there…but I don’t want to move somewhere with even MORE snow than here. :/
Hal:
You and I should meet sometime, face to face, one on one.
I’ll guarantee this, you won’t forget the experience.
Sounds like fun HM. We’d probably end up getting along fine. Sometimes it seems the internet brings out the worst in people.
Before you two agree to meet, get a REFEREE ! LOL
Those kids with that mobile billboard truck rock. It looks like fun. I wish i could join them some time. Especially outside a church that claims to be Christian. They have no business putting a cross on their building when they are unwilling to help a pregnant mother carry the “burden” of the new life growing inside their womb. They soujld not be allowed to hold pro-abort rallies inside any building that have a cross on the outside. The cross signifies the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Good for you Jill, reporting on mainline Presbyterians Christian faith on abortion.
“When a individual women faces the DECISION whether to terminate a pregnancy,the issue is intensely personal, and may not reflect itself in
ways that do not reflect public rhetoric,or do not fit neatly into medical,legal, or policy guidelines. Humans are EMPOWERED by the SPIRIT PRAYERFULLY to make significant moral choices, including the choice to end or continue a pregnancy. Human choices should not be made in moral vacuum, but must be BASED ON SCIPTURE,FAITH, and Christian ethics. For any choice we are accountable to God; however,even if we err, God offers us forgiveness.”
2006, General Assembly.
Imagine praying to a Spirit(inside your own mind, or the third person of God known as Spirit) to approve of the willful death of what the first person or second person of God created,along with the Spirit.
Now, being that Jesus is the second person of God, he must also approve with his Father sending down the holy Spirit to a Presbyterian to murder his own creation in a women. A perfect example of the God of Doug.
Now, being that the Trinity, creates the soul alone, what a horror to the soul of the baby in the womb, to be destroyed/murdered(the body) by a Presbyterian Christian, praying faithfully to the same God, that created the flesh(with human help) and soul of that aborted Christian baby.
From this house of the Lord comes nothing but murder in his name.
But, it gets better, it was just a error and poof, your forgiven your murder of what God created. Oh, its a sin? Well, after all that being faithful and praying to the third person of God, he lied, this Spirit, and you made a error!!!??? Actually, Presbyterian, you have been mislead by God through his Spirit you prayed to for that Divine right to abort his creation, if a error has been made. In essence; God made me do it. Who should be forgiving who here?
yllas, that is some pretty funny stuff! It’s like the church is admitting that abortion is a terrible sin, but go ahead and do it anyway, because if you pretend to be sorry about it, the Holy Spirit won’t know the difference.
“When a individual women faces the DECISION whether to terminate a pregnancy,the issue is intensely personal, and may not reflect itself in
ways that do not reflect public rhetoric,or do not fit neatly into medical,legal, or policy guidelines. Humans are EMPOWERED by the SPIRIT PRAYERFULLY to make significant moral choices, including the choice to end or continue a pregnancy. Human choices should not be made in moral vacuum, but must be BASED ON SCIPTURE,FAITH, and Christian ethics. For any choice we are accountable to God; however,even if we err, God offers us forgiveness.”
This is nonsensical fluff stuff, created to protect the income at the collection plate. In the long term, it fails. Churches which preach clearly for people to avoid killing and other sins, are the ones which are growing overall.
It’s so funny how you people think that parading photos of gore helps your cause, when really all it does is make you look crazier than PETA.
kb, What do you think of Joel Osteen [sp?] He refuses to discuss abortion in his sermons.
reality, America will not reject abortion until America SEES abortion.
Lmao, reality is giving out advice. This is the same person that referred to unborn children with disabilities as “nasty deformed little things”. What a bigot!
Carrie, right! @@ Like I would ever take advice from her. Maybe I should say “it.”
Keep up the good work Will D.
Heather: Reality went to a dark place that even Somg hasn’t gone to. She said the most vile thing that I have ever heard on this board and I intend to remind her of it every time she posts.
“reality, America will not reject abortion until America SEES abortion.”
not even then perhaps.
Carrie, reality is by far the most vile. She disgusts me to my core.
I refer to Will Duffy and his merry band as “fetus flashers”,as they clearly get the same thrill shocking and offending women and children as the more traditional “flasher” who exposes himself in schoolyards. Note the demonic smile on his face whenever he “flashes his fetus”.
Is that also why his fetus is always pictured at ten times its actual size?
Anon, what do you mean? A fetus is an unborn baby. Who cares what size it is. You can’t kill him/her.
Heather, get a clue. Have someone explain the little play on words to you. Do you know what a “flasher” is?
Any by the way, the six or so pat phrases you trot out and repeat in every blog have become tedious. You are like the “chatty Cathy” doll from the 60’s, who spoke six or so pre-programmed phrases when you pulled her string.
anonymous, What’s a flasher? I’m glad you’ve been reading my posts. Pay attention. You might learn a thing or 2.
anonymous, why are you so bitter? It ssems like you’ve got an “attitude.”
oops should say seems..above post
I refer to Will Duffy and his merry band as “fetus flashers”,as they clearly get the same thrill shocking and offending women and children as the more traditional “flasher” who exposes himself in schoolyards. Note the demonic smile on his face whenever he “flashes his fetus”.
——————————————————— Get over yourself, drama queen.
Oooh, you got him, anon! Yep, that’s it. Pro-lifers just like to show off their dead fetuses. They get sexual pleasure from showing off photos of dead babies. All of that stuff about educating people, showing people what abortion really is, and trying to end abortion? Noooo! The REAL truth is that pro-lifers get ‘excited’ when they force people to look at photos of tiny, decomposing corpses.
Are you for real?
Great work, Will! For every knuckle-dragging cretin you impress with your mutilated fetus/porn show, you offend and alienate 999 normal people.
Thanks for helping keep abortion safe and legal!
Posted by: anonymous at March 21, 2008 5:22 PM
Absolute nonsense.
Photos of aborted babies are the single most compelling way of changing minds.
Only those totally committed to abortion wink at those photos.
999 out of a 1000 normal people are aghast at the brutality of abortion when they see the real thing.
Great work, Will! For every knuckle-dragging cretin you impress with your mutilated fetus/porn show, you offend and alienate 999 normal people.
Thanks for helping keep abortion safe and legal!
Posted by: anonymous at March 21, 2008 5:22 PM
Absolute nonsense.
Photos of aborted babies are the single most compelling way of changing minds.
Only those totally committed to abortion wink at those photos.
999 out of a 1000 normal people are aghast at the brutality of abortion when they see the real thing.
Sorry to offend all you fetus flashers. And who pulled Heather’s string four times in rapid succession?
John. I think you have it right. Do you personally get excited at the sight?
Yes the pictures have an effect on normal people-they cause them to have absolute contempt for you anti-choice extremists.
Ok, John Heather and Hippie, go get out your mutilated fetus posters. Maybe you can scare a little kid on Easter Sunday. Have fun!
whatever.
“Stephaie, do think its appropriate to do that to unborn children?”
Jasper, this doesn’t make sense at all, and it’s a loaded question. What do you mean by appropriate? If you are asking if I think it’s ok to abort, the answer is yes.
“But Stephanie, shouldn’t the parishioners at pro-abortion churches know what they’re supporting? Or would you rather that they remain ignorant?”
I’m willing to bet the parishioners do know what abortion is. However, showing bloody pictures of questionable reliability is not showing the whole issue. Being pro-choice does not automatically mean you haven’t done your research.
Of course I wouldn’t rather people remain ignorant, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.
“Photos of aborted babies are the single most compelling way of changing minds.”
I disagree. I think if we just told women, “Look, you can have this child if you want, we can help you find the means to raise it.” then that would change a lot of minds.
Jess, you have some good ideas. Maybe one day you could help pregnant women in crisis. Do you want a career one day? If so, what are you going for?
Well I want to write. But I think for a career maybe public relations? I just switched majors from Movement Science health&fitness to English creative writing so I’m kind of up in the air.
What keeps you pro choice? Ever think about becoming pro life?
I just think a woman should have the choice whether or not to be pregnant, and that choice is greater then a human’s right to be born.
“reality, America will not reject abortion until America SEES abortion.”
That’s what people say about animal cruelty and eating meat. Still hasn’t changed my mind. Getting nasty photos shoved into my face will only make me want to avoid those people as much as possible.
Jess, I think you’re spot on. Words are a lot more effective than using graphic photos.
Jess, don’t you think that women should respect their bodies? Don’t you think that they ought to love their children? Look at those mangled and dismembered children. Not animals. Children.
Yes I think women ought to love their children. Do I think every woman will automatically love every child she has? No. Some women just do not want children and would resent being forced to have one and might even take her resentment out on her child. Women should love their bodies. Abortion isn’t hating your body. I think there are plenty of infertile women who can love their bodies as well. Sometimes a pregnancy can do more damage to your body then an abortion can. Yes they are children. A fertilized egg is also someone’s child. A human egg can become a child. I don’t believe every egg has the right to be fertilized.
A woman is also a human being, and since she is the one who is pregnant she should be able to choose to end it.
Now I’m taking a break to enjoy the nice weather but I’ll be back later. ttfn : )
In response to “anonymous” who stated…”Thanks for helping keep abortion safe and legal!” You only need to thank the Supreme Court, Elected so-called represenatives that have a blood lust for killing babies, and the collaborator’s of abortionists. You really can’t understand the horror of killing babies when you call it by any other name, like abortion. By the way, alcoholics are “anonymous” too. Except for their breath and I suggest Listerine for the bile you spew out at people who don’t want to babies to be cut into pieces alive.
Brett, right you are!
John,
Straight from the PCUSA web site. Interesting that the official PCUSA web site has a page dedicated to “what we believe”, which list 46 items of belief from Art,Work, Purity,Pre-destination 1 and 2, to Evil.
But, to find their belief about abortion, you have to enter their search engine. But, there are only 2.3 million Presbyterians left on this Earth, from following their faith of eliminating themselves from parying to the Spirit of God which eliminates them faithfully.
God doesn’t want them, they don’t want themselves. Last one alive gets all the money!! Suckers.
KB.
I once read that abortion is a form of deicide. It is a attack upon God by trying to destroy what belongs to God. In the case of PCUSA, they pray faithfully to murder what belongs to God so their God can become less well known on Earth.
Hey anonymous, your name says more than you’ll ever know. You’re really obsessed with the word “fetus.” What’s a fetus?
A fetus is a developing mammal beginning at 11 weeks gestational age and ending at birth.
A fetus is an unemployed loser who couldn’t buy lunch or tie his shoes without instructions and direction from Bob Enyart, who is his master.
Oh, I’m sorry, I was confused, that’s not what a fetus is, that is what a Will Duffy is.
In response to anonymous…You hurl insults about people you know nothing about, on a blog about saving babies from slaughter that you care nothing about and nothing is what you are contributing here. You are demon-strating how a product of social humanism is destructive and hateful.
I just think a woman should have the choice whether or not to be pregnant, and that choice is greater then a human’s right to be born.
Ummm…she does…unless women spontaneously become pregnant now and I just missed that memo.
Anon, ROFL
Will, sorry. But think about it, you wouldn’t call a toddler an adult, you wouldn’t call a fetus a baby. It’s just a term for development. It doesn’t mean you can’t talk to it or name it or love it or that it’s not special to God. It’s just at a different stage in it’s life. And one day it will be a Will Duffy. *head tilt*
Um, yeah Elizabeth, you must have missed the memo but if you give me your fax # I can fax it to you.
Now, being that Jesus is the second person of God, he must also approve with his Father sending down the holy Spirit to a Presbyterian to murder his own creation in a women. A perfect example of the God of Doug.
yllas, this rant of yours gets:
That’s out of five – your pirate stuff was a lot better.
Again, I’m agnostic. You cannot prove there is a god or gods, any more than it can be proven there are no gods.
However, we can look at the beliefs of some people in logical ways. For one thing, if a god sent down the word, then it wouldn’t be “murder” would it? If nothing else, you’re pretty much denying your own premise there.
Poor Doug,
Tis the endoctrination of your parent’s religion which your life is based on. You are a reflection of the person who progressed partially from a murdering god, to the contradiction of a absolute agnostic. You absolutly do not know, or know Doug. Get it yet Doug? Your kinda slow. Or are you going humpty dumpty, as many who use the word agnostic and make up definitions to fit their self made definition of A;not Gnosis; Know.
Silly Doug, God sent down his word(Spirit) to allow the murder of his creation in the womb. That’s your parent’s God and your logical mind detected the murderous God in their worship. You were a bright boy Doug, and became a failed worshipper of your parent’s God that pre-knows and allows murder of his creation. Which is why your a oxymoronic agnostic, still trapped in the logical box of your parent’s vicious God.
Plus being a dogmatist for the murder of innocent creation is quite normal for one raised in the house of the murdering God. Only a dogmatist would have written that people at this pro life site “think they have a good argument against abortion,but they don’t”. Or a fruit loop who has sniffed to much PCB’s to know he always has worshipped murder as natural, from childhood to today.
yllas: Tis the endoctrination of your parent’s religion which your life is based on.
Nah – it’s just you starting with a lie and being foolish.
The Doug.
It’s a lie a tell ya, and that’s that, Yllas. Dogmatic Calvinism still owns your mind Doug.
God knows all.
You fruit TULIP, Doug.
The Doug.
It’s a lie a tell ya, and that’s that, Yllas. Dogmatic Calvinism still owns your mind Doug.
God knows all.
You fruit TULIP, Doug.
Yes, yllas – you frequently begin with a lie, conjured up in your mind, and then proceed to try to build upon it. Okay, fine, but that’s from you and on you, and not any rational comment on the topic.
Rarely, you avoid the lying, and to give credit where credit is due, at least you’re not 100% on that score.
As for the biblical god, not every pregnancy was wanted to be continued, as with the commands to kill, where the unborn were obviously not “guilty.”
You may not like abortion, but in no way does that make it “murder.” As for the biblical god, what do you think your opinion matters, there? The situation was plain. Whether you think it’d be “murder” or not doesn’t matter.
That’s right Doug, the bibical god you construct doesn’t want his creation to live, from abortion to miscarriage, etc. Hey, it fits with your own dogmatic logic for allowing women to murder their own creation. It’s murder Doug, it is with forethought and that “will”, that the murdering God gave them.
Shhh,, right now, God is dead and descendit ad inferos, not ad infernum, to the Sheol for people like you Doug, allowing the murder of his creation in his name first, and then from just being a typical soldier of the sensory world weighting life and death matters by pain lessened and pleasure gained. Can’t blame ya Doug, god is a wash logically. The force of your dogmatic mind for the murder of God’s creation is incapable of being changed. Why? because Doug knows that “no one has a good argument against abortion, they just think they do”.
Which means Doug, your for a killing, and I’m for a livin.
Why do you come to this site Doug?
The only reason is that your a preacher, and a dogmatic,closed minded preacher for death, and the nothingness that you create through abortion.
Or, your that kind of guy, who enjoys his silly pics of fruit loops, and stories about himself when he was a young lion for the creation of nothingness.
BTW Doug,
You followed the theology of your parent’s pro murdering God as child, and reduced yourself to a simple oxymoronic agnostic in your personal theological studies . You have created nothing from the fact of being trapped in nothing but sensory rewards and punishments which determined that you had no children.
Which is the real reason you come here, with that long time preacher of nothingness known as FF,Laura the lover of non-humans, and Sally, the anti-catholic bigot, a three generation deep disciple from being “elected” by the God of Deathsex.
It is impossible for a man to not create life unless his whole life is always measuring his pleasure first and foremost carefully, by not producing life. And always finding similar minds who are of the same spirit.Hint, hint, Doug. Old FF and Doug are old friends, huh!!!
Or, your manhood is defective and not worth the money to correct such a pre-destined error of your creation.
To which such a man returns to his nothingness he has created, and in his loneliness, cruises a pro life site, trying to preach about his personal decision to allow others to create nothing, as he has done.
And for years, and years, this preacher of nothingness has gone preaching his word of abortion, until the glory and power of Doug is reached by writing that “no one has a good argument against abortion, they just think they do”.
Hmm, now we know why Doug doesn’t think that vice exist.
Hey anonymous, I had a sneaky suspicion you didn’t know what a “fetus” was. Jess was right on. An embryo is not a fetus, a fetus is not a newborn, a newborn is not an infant, an infant is not a toddler, a toddler is not an adolescent, an adolescent is not an adult. But I was once an embryo, a fetus, a newborn, an infant, a toddler, an adolescent, and now an adult, all the same person, Will Duffy.
Now please research what a “fetus” is before using the word anymore. You will get more respect and credibility that way. Now here’s a tougher one for you:
If I’m unemployed, who’s Bob Enyart?
yes. Who is he?
Bob Enyart is a preacher of hate against James Dobson, Focus on the Family, National Right to Life, Ron Paul, the Girl Scouts, AARPS, etc. etc.
He has been engaged in non-stop publicity stunts for 20 years to make money, such as Will’s little mutilated fetus show. He has a small but devoted set of loonies as “followers” in his hate cult, including Will.
If being a flunky for Bob, is “employment”, then Will is employed.
That’s nice. I don’t know him.
Hey anonymous, I mean Larry, how can you get nothing right in one sentence? Bob Enyart understands what God really meant by Love Thy Neighbor. Bob Enyart professes only Love for Dobson. Thankfully, Bob Enyart exposed Focus on Family’s fund raising on the blood of the slaughtered unborn children. Thankfully, Bob Enyart exposed Ron Paul’s and Mitt Romney’s inconsistent views with that of Christianity. And Bob Enyart exposed how those innocent Girl Scout pawns are selling cookies to advance the gay and lesbian agenda. YOU IGNORE THE TRUTH AND CALL IT HATE! Perhaps you’re not anonymous, just confused…
In response to confused anonymous…How could you get nothing right in your second sentence too? Bob Enyart makes money off of publicity stunts? Where’s your evidence? And you’ve reduced the nationwide effort to expose the truth about killing babies to a “little mutilated fetus show”? Thousands give precious time to expose what killing a baby really looks like. And how does Bob Enyart’s 80+ market television show and almost 20 years on the radio, and countless appearances on TV news, radio, and public appearances, equal a “small but devoted set of loonies”? You’re not just confused, you sound jealous…
Um…all the girl scouts do is teach girls to be self-reliant and sell delicious cookies to people.
And wear sashes with pretty patches on them.
In response to confused, jealous, anonymous… Three sentences and nothing right yet? Reread my previous post and you’ll probably rethink your silly insult that anyone working in Bob Enyart’s ministry is a flunkie. As I stated earlier you contribute nothing but insults. Three strikes and yer OUT!
In reposnse to Rae… Agreed, that’s why I referred to them as pawns. Again, the road to doing good deeds is paved with good intentions. Follow the money after the children are used to raise it and the truth will reveal itself. Why are so many girl scouts dropping their allegiance and joining American Heritage Girls?
@CAPITALLETTERSAREANNOYINGTOREAD: “The Road to doing good deeds is paved with good intentions”?
Riiiiight. That doesn’t even make sense.
They’re probably dropping GS because they’re boring and they don’t do as much fun stuff as Boy Scouts (ie camping). All girl scouts do is make macaroni art and glittery masks. Seriously, that’s all they do. It’s hideously boring.
I fail to see how macaroni art and glittery masks are signs of “lesbianism”.
Oh wait, maybe it’s because they were pants…
(Thin Mints are delicious cookies.)
Oh Snickerdoodles…I wrote “were” instead of “wear”. Pardon.
Hi Rae, allow me do this a little slower. The girls are, for the most part, sweet and unassuming girls happy to be in a club. The girls, and their parents sell cookies for a parent corporation that supports the gay and lesbian agenda. The Girl Scouts are not being sued like the Boy Scouts, who refuse to have openly gay men as scout leaders, because they have lesbian scout leaders and lesbian women and girls among their ranks. Here’s a 2000 clip from a story on the subject…The organization itself is not shy about the issue. One resource book for Scouts informs its young readers: “Some girls have sexual attractions or desires for people of the same sex.” Meanwhile, the Patriots’ Trail Girl Scout Council in Massachusetts held a volunteer workshop this year on sexual orientation, working in tandem with the Gay Lesbian Youth Support project “to educate us about overcoming barriers that may exist in our organization and instilling a culture that is inviting to all girls,” according to Mary Jo Kane, spokesman for the council. Girl Scout policy forbids sex on Girl Scouts time. But the book On My Honor: Lesbians Reflect on Their Scouting Experience, published in 1997, is filled with coming-of-age stories sparked by gay encounters in the Girl Scouts. Along with an essay entitled “All I Really Need to Know About Being a Lesbian I Learned at Girl Scout Camp… Sorry Rae, but the truth can be painful
Awww, it must really suck to be that paranoid.
Because being gay is such a *horrible* thing and tolerating and loving gay people is such a *horrible* thing to do.
Quite frankly, I don’t see the “indoctrination”, nor do I think it really matters.
It’s not painful at all, good for them, if they’re able to be tolerant of people who are different.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have better things to do than argue with a person who doesn’t believe in paragraphs and spells their online handle in all caps.
Sleep is good…
ha – Rae you so right – when they use all caps its like they in kindergarten
I refer to Will Duffy and his merry band as “fetus flashers”,as they clearly get the same thrill shocking and offending women and children as the more traditional “flasher” who exposes himself in schoolyards. Note the demonic smile on his face whenever he “flashes his fetus”.
Is that also why his fetus is always pictured at ten times its actual size?
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man it sounds like he needs to get a life and quit buggin people
What’s a flasher?
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heather lol you want me to send you a picture?
Bob Enyart professes only Love for Dobson. Thankfully, Bob Enyart exposed Focus on Family’s fund raising on the blood of the slaughtered unborn children.
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godisnowhere, thats some crazy stuff there
But, there are only 2.3 million Presbyterians left on this Earth, from following their faith of eliminating themselves from parying to the Spirit of God which eliminates them faithfully.
God doesn’t want them, they don’t want themselves. Last one alive gets all the money!! Suckers.
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yllas DUDE you havve to be stoned
In response to, well, insults and non-subjective so called debate; Rae, tolerance was not the point, you just can’t get it so you might as well sleep on it. We skaters rule what? Government run public school education? Here’s some really crazy stuff; why post on a subject you know nothing about and care nothing about?
Here’s some friendly advice. Don’t suck on the lollipops you get from Planned Parenthood, they taste like prophylactic.
Can anyone besides people with really neat online handles approved by Rae, or skaters that rule, help us with what a fetus is?
God, all caps just looks dumb.
Dobson certainly is an idiot. Fetus = after 8 or 9 weeks gestation and before its born.
Also, don’t take any wooden nickles dude.
We Sk8trz Rule : yllas DUDE you havve to be stoned
yllas is a woman. As to the “stoned,” well, stick around….. ; )
yllas, Good Morning. Let’s see how far you could get without lying.
That’s right Doug, the bibical god you construct
Hmm.. Well, not too good – you only made it part way into the first sentence; after eight words you had already been false.
Let’s change the rating system. From now on, you’ll be judged on the amount of lies, lunacy, absurdity, in your posts.
This time, it’s
It is not my construction – I’m agnostic. If you want to discuss the constructs of deities that others have, sure, but as far as I’m concerned there need be no gods in the abortion debate, because there neither is proof of them or of their non-existence. I was referring to the god as described in the Bible, and if you have issues there, okay – no big surprise.
If you’re really worried about Protestants, then you ought to give Zeke or HisMan a try, but of course you won’t do that….
….because they’d own you. They’d roll you up and smoke you.
P.S. Four days hence my brigantine will ride at anchor in the harbor. See that you’re well-stocked.
It’s murder Doug, it is with forethought and that “will”, that the murdering God gave them.
yllas,
Awarded on the basis of the large amount of energy you devote to your ritual of self-fruitification.
No, it is not “murder.” Again, you cannot get beyond lying in your very premise.
And you’re still in “bigot mode,” whining and moaning about anti-Catholicism. Well, if you’ve got trouble, you need look no further than the mirror.
Bigot: “One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.”
I know there are wonderful Catholic people on earth, as well as wonderful Protestants, agnostics, atheists, members of other religions, etc.
You rant and rave about atheists, Protestants, agnostics, members of other religions, really – anybody from outside your own little “tribe,” i.e. it’s you to a “T.”
Great Full Moon the last three nights….
We Sk8trz Rule : yllas DUDE you havve to be stoned
yllas is a woman. As to the “stoned,” well, stick around….. ; )
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she sounds like this old girl in our town who walks around muttering to herself.
but she might have some good stuff in the bag….
Awarded on the basis of the large amount of energy you devote to your ritual of self-fruitification.
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did yllas eat too many bananas as a kid?
lol
Jess, I think you’re spot on. Words are a lot more effective than using graphic photos.
Posted by: Stephanie at March 22, 2008 1:31 PM————————————————————- I disagree. Why are jurors shown pictures of murder victims at murder trials? So the jury can see what the poor victim was put through. Should the prosecutor just flap his jaws about it? No. Pictures work.
Nope Doug, your a fruit TULIP from birth, to today being a person who ABSOLUTELY does not know, or know, God.
But, you have followed your parent’s theology to it’s natural ends. The production of nothing from being personally infected with your parent’s version of that God, that knows the murder is going to be committed before the murderer has even been formed in the womb. God knows all, Doug. Which made Doug, begin to doubt his parent’s God that sends murderers into the world for some goofy reason Doug could never reconcile. Can’t blame you Doug for becoming a ABSOLUTE doubt about those God’s(your parent’s,first,which led to you becoming a failed Protestant), that have determined All actions before they occur.
Which is why you are left to yourself and your mind deciding matters of life by the measurement of less pain and more pleasure. Can’t blame ya there either Doug.
Your self conversion to being a person who absolutely does not know, or know God, might be the biggest joke on you yet Doug, simply because you were pre-destined by God, to become the weakest philosophical and theological faith about God. You were pre-destined Doug, to be the weakest logic of thinking about God. Which is why you should become a atheist, Doug, and drop the absolutely unsolvable problem of creating a flying spaghetti monster/the force/the big mind/myself be da man, with a logic based on not knowing or knowing. Now, that’s a position which I could respect and honor. But, Doug only knows two absolute truths, Absolute Doubt about god inventions, and his absolute personal faith of “knowing that no one has a good argument against abortion, they just think they do”. So again Doug, why do you come to this site? To convert others to your preaching for the creation of nothingness, from your personal experience of creating nothing yourself? Afterall Doug, your personal decision, to create nothing reveals the personal fact that you never were, and never could be “your brothers keeper”, since you never created a single brother yourself. Yet, you flatter yourself Doug, and offer to be John McDonell’s personal “brothers keeper”. Keep up that image Doug, while denying to create a brother yourself, Doug, by being a father. You really are a self made illusion Doug. Or, you were born unable to reproduce and never spent a nickle on yourself to be able to reproduce. To post pics of yourself and create a image of Doug which always flatters yourself in every story Doug reveals about himself?
Btw, Doug, do you also resent anti-Catholics enough to not defend a three generation deep, anti-Catholic named Sally, and not offer apologetics for that anti-Catholic bigot? What’s that Doug? You wrote a post to Yllas accusing Yllas of bigotry when Yllas was reminding that three generation deep, anti-Catholic bigot,named Sally, about her being born into a bigoted family? Defending anti-Catholic bigots Doug, simply confirms your typical anti-Catholic mind that replies to Yllas, that you know “good Catholics”. Are they those “typical Catholics”, which your parent’s talked to you about behind closed doors Doug? Yes, Doug, in your reality, Sally is not a bigot about Catholics, and your not defending a bigot named Sally to this day. I understand Doug, it’s your natural reaction to defend a bigot named Sally.
Ah, the famous line of a bigot , I know there are “wonderful Catholics” , which is why I,Dougly Dodoubt, poke my nose into a post directed to a three generation deep, anti-Catholic bigot named Sally, and try to turn the argument into anything but my defense and apologetics for a anti-Catholic bigot. Silly bigot defending Doug.
Your logic for abortion began at home Doug, through your parent’s thinking about God, and concluding that God allows the death of his creation in the womb by his acts of nature.
Then the murder of his creation was allowed for a act against the will a women, and “discerning the judgement Of God”, was decided by those faithful followers of Jesus Christ , was that his creation was to be murdered after birth, since science was not able to murder then in the womb.
Now Doug, before science caught up with allowing murder of “non persons”, they had to wait for that magical moment when a “non person” was made into a person, by being pushed by the mother into this Earth, and quickly, or not quickly, murdered by his faithful followers.
Especially if the child was created by “Catholic rape”, Doug. Didn’t your parent’s tell you the truth about the real reason why rape became another reason for abortion science(failed abortifacients were common), Doug? They did find it slightly “inhuman” to murder the born child, and invented the all knowing god in defense of such acts. He/she was willed by God through predestiny to be bashed in the head till death. Or whatever means possible. Don’t blame me, I be a doing God’s work. A “instrument of God”.
Before that Doug, those early Christians, you know, the one that didn’t “biblically exist”, before Protestants invented their Jesus version, were also being allowed to abort/abortifacients/ infanticide, their rape child in the name of Jesus.
Didn’t your parent’s teach you anything about those nonbiblical, non existing Catholics throwing their rape baby into the waters of the Tigris?
Don’t you remember Doug? Catholics used abortifacients and if they didn’t work, murder the rape child by infanticide? Right Doug? Jesus is no different then all those God’s which are invented to allow the death/murder of his creation in his name. All God’s have ABSOLUTELY allowed the murder of his creation by humans if he failed to murder(God has a WILL, Doug) them by natural acts. You go Doug, and when I repeat your theology to you, you deny your own theology.
Hmm? Doug? Judas? Now there is a new character for Dougly Dodoubt.
Judas “kept” his money,and killed his “brother”, Doug “kept” his money and never created a “brother to keep”.
you have followed your parent’s theology to it’s natural ends.
There again, yllas, you begin with a lie. You write big, foaming-at-the-mouth lunatic posts, and it’s all predicated on falsehoods of your own making, not to mention that you apparently can’t even understand what “agnostic” means. It’s just like that time you claimed you were the only good Catholic posting on Jill’s blog.
If you want to be honest and discuss theoretical constructs (gods, etc.) on an if/then basis, that is one thing, but nothing you’ve made up to this point has any validity.
Has Sally really said anything anti-Catholic that’s unfair? Maybe she has – I haven’t followed all her posts or yours, but if it was in response to you then it’s entirely understandable. You reap as you sow.
You may not like abortion, but that does not make it “murder.” In biblical times it was not considered murder, nor was it in the US before abortion was generally illegal, nor is it now, nor was it even when abortion was illegal.
Thank you godisnowhere a/k/a Will Duffy, for proving how delusional your little cult truly is…
Murder is the deliberate, premeditated taking of an innocent human life. Therefore, induced abortion is murder. Do you get it now?
Of course he “gets it”…but he doesn’t want to.
None of them do. It’s all just the same thing over and over with these people: Deny deny deny.
They won’t be able to deny much longer. More truth about abortion surfaces daily. The tide is definitely changing in our favor, and the indistry is slowly but surely dissolving.
How long did these idiots think the public could be kept in the dark?
The abortion indistry is killing ITSELF, and not a moment too soon. The media isn’t their friend anymore.
Yes !!! The truth is prevailing.
More melodramatic hysteria and public temper tantrums from the antichoice side.
Colorado doesn’t mess around. I like that.
I’d move there…but I don’t want to move somewhere with even MORE snow than here. :/
Posted by: Elizabeth at March 21, 2008 10:56 PM
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I lived a little bit north of Boulder. The snow fell, was beautiful, then usually melted away after a very short time – only a day or two. It didnt pile up and get all dirty like in New York and South Dakota. The job market was abominable but it might be better in Denver.
Anon, what do you mean? A fetus is an unborn baby. Who cares what size it is. You can’t kill him/her.
Posted by: heather at March 22, 2008 11:04 AM
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I dont agree you can rationally call mindless nonviable oblivious tissue *a baby* and a whole lot of people agree with me. And yes, mindless nonviable tissue can be removed from the uterus of a woman who doesnt want it to be there.
999 out of a 1000 normal people are aghast at the brutality of abortion when they see the real thing.
Posted by: hippie at March 22, 2008 12:30 PM
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Those pictures ARENT ‘the real thing’. They are not an honest depiction of a typical abortion. If you showed an honest picture of a typical abortion no one would be aghast. Thats why antichoicers wont do it. Honesty doesnt further the antichoice agenda.
Someone stuff a sock in yllass’ mouth before he bites his own tongue off
Watch this video “THE CHOICE BLUES”..WARNING! Actual abortion in progress. If you can stomach it, let me know what you think.
Murder is the deliberate, premeditated taking of an innocent human life. Therefore, induced abortion is murder. Do you get it now?
Posted by: jt at March 24, 2008 10:26 AM
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Why dont you tell us ‘where’ you got your ‘definition’ of murder, just for starters? Which dictionary?
Watch this video “THE CHOICE BLUES”..WARNING! Actual abortion in progress. If you can stomach it, let me know what you think.
Posted by: heather at March 24, 2008 1:13 PM
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What do you think there is TO see in a suction curettage abortion? And suction curettage or RU486 makes up about 97% of the abortions performed in the US. Or is this another procedure which makes up only 3% of the abortions performed and youre trying to pretesent it as ‘the truth about abortion’?
I saw baby parts being removed from the woman. The cervix looked horribly stretched and brutalized. It was very disturbing to view.
I saw baby parts being removed from the woman. The cervix looked horribly stretched and brutalized. It was very disturbing to view.
Posted by: heather at March 24, 2008 1:22 PM
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Then it obviously was not a suction curettage abortion or RU486 so it wasnt being honest about the vast majority of abortions. And by the way, those were fetal parts.
I think someone needs to ask the Presbetyrian church leadership: Did Mary choose LIFE? YES, she DID. She did by saying YES to God’s will to give LIFE to HIS SON. By supporting abortion, that “sect” of Christianity is rejecting Christ in the unborn child.
Someone stuff a sock in yllass’ mouth before he bites his own tongue off
Posted by: TexasRed at March 24, 2008 1:12 PM
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I thought ill-ass was a woman..? Mebbe it don’t matter since the main thing is the meds aren’t strong enough obviously
Murder is the deliberate, premeditated taking of an innocent human life. Therefore, induced abortion is murder. Do you get it now?
Posted by: jt at March 24, 2008 10:26 AM
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dude you have it so backwards. It’s like saying a football is brown and pointy, therefore everything that’s brown and pointy is a football – not true
I thought ill-ass was a woman..? Mebbe it don’t matter since the main thing is the meds aren’t strong enough obviously
Posted by: Down with PD Sk8tr at March 24, 2008 3:39 PM——————————————————- ROFLMAO! you’re one to talk!
TexasRed … look at the very first photo Jill posted with this story, the one with the truck and the church shown in the background. That photo on the truck is the result of a first trimester abortion.
Kristi, TR KNOWS it’s true, she just doesn’t want to believe it. DENIAL MUST BE POWERFUL!
Someone stuff a sock in yllass’ mouth before he bites his own tongue off
Iva, isn’t it a “she,” since she posted as “uspsgirl” a couple times? Or is he a cross-dresser?
Yllas is just riled because my parrot opened up a can of whoop-ass on her toucan neener neener neener.
Or, she’s trying for that fifth fruit-loop. I don’t really blame her, it is a nice purple color, after all.
Doug
We Sk8trz Rule : did yllas eat too many bananas as a kid? lol
Hard to say, but I was in Portland, OR, last week, and at a fruit and nut stand they had a little shrine with a statue of yllas in it – the patron saint.
jt: Murder is the deliberate, premeditated taking of an innocent human life. Therefore, induced abortion is murder. Do you get it now?
Down with PD Sk8tr: dude you have it so backwards. It’s like saying a football is brown and pointy, therefore everything that’s brown and pointy is a football – not true
Right, and we see that lack of logic so many times. That a thing may be necessary does not mean that by itself it is sufficient.
Necessary but not sufficient – an easy concept but it’s amazing how many people screw up on it. Abortion was not murder in biblical times, nor has it been in the US – not before 1776, not after the writing of the Constitution, not when abortion was illegal, and not now.
“No true follower of God or Christ would be a pro-abort.”
Funny how many religious people end up getting abortions though.
“reality, America will not reject abortion until America SEES abortion.”
Haha, well, keep trying then, since your tactics have been going on for more than 35 years and they’re still failing. But you know what they say about insanity…
“999 out of a 1000 normal people are aghast at the brutality of abortion when they see the real thing.”
999 out of 1,000 normal people are aghast you’re showing grotesque photos of a perfectly legal medical procedure. I demand more photos of open heart surgery to dissuade people from getting their heart valves replaced! It’s truly horrific, and you should SEE the scars that are left behind.
“I once read that abortion is a form of deicide. It is a attack upon God by trying to destroy what belongs to God.”
Well, I don’t believe in God, but going along with your beliefs, I don’t see anything wrong with giving back what’s his. I mean, he’ll love all the little children in heaven, right? Or did I misread something? At least in heaven they’ll be guaranteed love, which is not something anyone on earth would dare promise.
“Um…all the girl scouts do is teach girls to be self-reliant and sell delicious cookies to people.
And wear sashes with pretty patches on them.”
Close, but you forgot about indoctrinating them into an essentially patriarachal society where they will be fully dependent upon others to provide their well-being, excepting in the case of common housework, which are fairly badges to seek out and earn.
“Here’s some friendly advice. Don’t suck on the lollipops you get from Planned Parenthood, they taste like prophylactic.”
Prophylactic … what? (That’s an adjective … and if you want to use it as a noun, use a definite article like “a” or “the” before it. Or simply say “they taste like condoms” which is what I assume you mean)
“Murder is the deliberate, premeditated taking of an innocent human life.”
According to the Bible, no one’s innocent. What then?
“They won’t be able to deny much longer. More truth about abortion surfaces daily. The tide is definitely changing in our favor, and the indistry is slowly but surely dissolving.”
Maybe in America, with all you crazy fundamentalists roaming around, but other countries have PROVEN how successful having legal abortion and access to contraceptives works to prevent unwanted pregnancies/children. So if RvW is abolished, I’m sure we’ll see a lovely migration of unwilling pregnant folks to other more accepting nations, similar to how we’ve witnessed a migration in the states so that people can still access it.
Oh, and just because the industry is destroyed… doesn’t mean you’re preventing abortion. Sorry.
“By supporting abortion, that “sect” of Christianity is rejecting Christ in the unborn child.”
Well, when you birth the next Christchild, let me know. Until then, I’m gonna be pretty sure my children (and everyone else’s) aren’t descendants of God.
*deep breath* Whew! That was fun.
“I disagree. Why are jurors shown pictures of murder victims at murder trials? So the jury can see what the poor victim was put through. Should the prosecutor just flap his jaws about it? No. Pictures work.”
Heather,
Photos do indeed have a time and place. Outside a church is not one of them.
Besides, the two scenarios you are describing a different. In the murder trial, you are trying to convict someone and show *reliable* photos of a horrible thing that happened to an actual person.
When you are showing bloody photos to women outside of abortion clinics, it doesn’t help. I certainly wouldn’t listen to someone who shoved a picture of questionable reliability into my face without talking to me. I would be more likely to listen to the women who actually took the time to talk to me.
Still that raving fruit TULIP Doug thinks his mind is not controlled by his parent’s moral theology.
But, let me make it clear to Doug.
Your need to “butt in”, and make your judgement known about Sally not being a anti-Catholic bigot, simply confirms your need to defend a anti-Catholic bigot of three generations.
What difference does it make to you Doug, what my writings to a deathsex worshiping, anti-Catholic bigot named Sally really,truthfully, got to do with you Doug? The only reason is to play the game of defending a bigot, by trying to make a bigot out of the accuser of the bigot. It’s part of your deep held thinking that there are no bigots towards Catholics named Sally, and that you know “wonderful Catholics” yourself. Yes, Doug, insert the “n word” for Catholic, and see exactly what your logic is.
Your revealing yourself Doug, as nothing more then now trying to justify your apologetics for a anti-Catholic bigot by the simple “what goes around comes around”, logic of your deluded, freak friend, named Sally.
Try again Doug. Nothing came around for me, but a silly anti-catholic defending bigot named Doug, who is still trying to accuse, the accuser of his friendly anti-Catholic bigot named Sally.
Next thing this defender of anti-Catholic bigots will say is that famous line of a bigot, that he even knows “wonderful Catholics” too. !!! Ya, you know Catholics, and they know what you are Doug. A simple minded apologetic for that bigot named Sad Eyed Sally. A three generation anti-Catholic bigot from reason of deathsex worship.
I can understand your absolute moral and psychological defense/apologetics of Sally, since your a blood brother absolutely in deathsex, and the creation of nothingness from sex.
It is your decades of being a personal decision, a moral, a absolute, to never make a brother to keep yourself, Doug.
You know that your decision of being a creator of nothing Doug, is also the reason you had to “butt in” to a post not directed to you, but to a anti-Catholic bigot named Sally.
And here is the simple prediction of Yllas, and a prophet of the logic of Doug. You will deny that your psychological reason(s), and moral reason(s), for reading a post, not directed to you Doug, and directed to educate a anti-Catholic bigot to her blatant anti-Catholic bigotry, is NOT from the most simple fact of Doug’s revealed life. The common mind/morality/love/mercy/happiness with Sally of being a blood brother and sister, in the decision of creating nothing, and the preaching of the positive moral of the nothingness of Doug, which guided your mind before every pleasure gained with a human being. Especially women.
I enjoy my post to you Doug, who doesn’t absolutely think your personal life is the root reason for years and years of preaching for the contradiction of life, which is nothingness from creation and acts of murder for nothingness, that you preach, and seek it out in others.
But, what form of nothingess of the Dougly will reply?
That famous critical thinker known as the NOPE Doug, and his critical mind of nope-me-ness?
Or the Judas Doug? Who kept his money and never created a brother to keep?
The pic posting Dougly Dodoubt, who post pics and then banters about Yllas with his new vulgar cheering section who posted a vulgar anti-Catholic remark about the pope shoes?
See it yet Doug? Your inbred bigotry requires your posting to a typical anti-Catholic bigot for humor and grins from Doug.
The parse minded Doug, who knows “that no one has a good argument against abortion, they just think they do” dogmatic Doug?
The Dougly, that post blatant contradictions of truth of being his “brothers keeper” to some person he never met, but never created a brother to meet or keep?
The Dougly, that reminds every person he post to, about his agnostic mind which is absolutely a contradiction of terms and truth, and can’t think critcally about agnostisism , to understand the contradiction steems from ancient philospohers knowing that truth of agnosticism. That Doug doesn’t know that contradictions are unable to be truth from being a child philosophically to this day. And not even a matter of absolute truth,but being able to think outside your self made belief of being a self defining agnositc, humpty dumpty.
That Doug’s life is always looking for a contradiction from his parent’s own failure to resolve their contradictions of truth or life themselves.
That Doug does not think that Yllas has been using his morality and words in a reverse, or mirror, of Doug.
Just as I use my name too show Sally her mirror image of herself.
Who knows which Dougly will parse this post, and reply to Yllas, but Doug knows from his parent’s peasant mind, built upon being a contradiction of truth and logic will not be the source of his reply to this post.
What will reply to Yllas, is the Dougly that made absolutely positive, absolutely truthful, that no life was created from him from his belief of creating nothing and nothingness.
Hi yllas! Still waiting for those tickets to Tahiti. May or early June would work fine.
There is a sign I once saw at a protest before, a pro-abortion, mainstream church: “REAL CHURCHES DON’T KILL BABIES.” That sends the message loud and clear.
There is a First Congregational Church near where I live. Every time there is any political gathering or convention, the woman “pastor” is out there with her minions holding their “Keep Abortion Safe and Legal” signs.
It makes ny blood boil.
“There is a First Congregational Church near where I live. Every time there is any political gathering or convention, the woman “pastor” is out there with her minions holding their “Keep Abortion Safe and Legal” signs.
It makes ny blood boil.”
That’s how many of us feel when we see “ban abortion” gatherings.
In response to anonymous…I read the posts and noticed Will D hides from no one, and rarely gets an answer to his questions, unless you believe your insults are worthy of even responding to. I, on the other hand use this “handle” as it suits Bible believing Christians and post Christian Christians, and the rest who waste their time professing their hate on web site dedicated to the sanctity of life. I don’t have a single W, I, or L in my name. And thank-you for exposing your true self, in your own beliefs, a hate filled human embryo, turned fetus, turned baby who’s mother CHOSE life, who went through childhood, who went to public schools, who experimented with drugs, who cheated, who lied, who stole, who learned to hate instead of love, and ate enough food to grow into an adult organism, who still lies, still cheats, still steals, and still hates. I know almost everyone on this blog, including Jill prays you will one day find the peace that surpasses all human understanding.
In response to hal who said…”That’s how many of us feel when we see “ban abortion” gatherings.” You are capable of feelings? Then tell us what that baby feels when its homicidal mother allows the blood and money lusting child killer to stab scissors into the base of its skull, or rip its limbs off one by one…
In response to Stephanie who said…”When you are showing bloody photos to women outside of abortion clinics, it doesn’t help.” Correction! As part of the sidewalk counseling effort, it is in fact the only method that is working at abortion clinics, especially now that p.p. is building giant abortuaries that don’t allow the homicidal cash cows to come into earshot of sidewalk counselors. If a church advocates child killing they will do so without tranquility!
Doug will parse this post, and reply to Yllas
Well Duh, yllas. You hide behind the ridiculous portrait of yourself that you paint.
Here – give us some truth about yourself. I’ve said a couple times that you should be truthful – tell us about yourself.
You’ve mentioned that youve run a bar or tavern or restaurant – well, enlarge upon that, just don’t spout your usual baloney that everybody can instantly see as false.
I am telling you that your description of guys who were cheating on their wives, with other women “on their arms” (or similar) was interesting, and it had the ring of truth to it. Please, give us more of that type of thing.
You’re a creative person, and you have value. Hey – I’ve argued abortion for 12 years online, and you are special – I’m telling you that.
Doug
There is a First Congregational Church near where I live. Every time there is any political gathering or convention, the woman “pastor” is out there with her minions holding their “Keep Abortion Safe and Legal” signs.
It makes ny blood boil.
Well Gee, Mike, poor baby – imagine that – people wanting to put the unarguably thinking, feeling people – the pregnant women – ahead of those who would tell them what to do, i.e. those like you.
Heh – cry me a river.
Doug
PJ Mammie: Contrary to your assertion that arguing over terminology means that a debate has descended into the nonsensical gutter, I contend that is not *always* true, as can be illustrated in the fuss about whether to use the term “baby” or “fetus” when referring to an unborn human being.
PJM, I applaud your effort, but it’s been done to death.
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Funny how it’s a baby when it’s “wanted” but it’s suddenly a “fetus” when we’re talking about chopping it up into little pieces and sucking it from its mother’s womb through a plastic tube.
Non-sequitur, as with a woman who thinks very pro-lifely and would still say, “I’m going to have a baby.” Hey – semantic arguments are silly.
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Imagine walking up to a pregnant mother and asking “how’s the fetus doing today?”…