(Prolifer)ations 5/13/08
by JivinJ
She weighed 1lb 4.7oz and was given just a 10 to 15% chance of survival then had to endure three operations, including two on the brain.
But she is now 9 months old and a healthy 14lbs, and has been allowed out of hospital for the first time.
The woman and her friend, Kristi Oetken, first attempted to draw attention to the issue in 2006 after receiving a campaign mailer from Erickson touting his endorsement by OR Right to Life during Erickson’s first run for OR’s 5th Congressional District. The woman and her friend said they considered Erickson’s anti-abortion stand hypocritical in light of his experience with the woman.
Below is the damaging email Mannix included in his mailer. Read his intro letter here. Click to enlarge:
Taken as a whole, the discussions revealed several salient points. It was instructive to witness the ease with which various speakers could embrace infanticide or dehumanize unborn life – recall Harman’s argument that unborn children “really are a lot like plants.” But even more instructive was how unalarmed many in the Princeton audience seemed to be by any of this. I had forgotten that, for more than a few in the academic elite, this is just par for the course.
The Cornell scientists put a gene for a fluorescent protein into the single-celled human embryo. The embryo had 3 sets of chromosomes instead of 2.
After the embryo divided for 3 days, all the cells in the embryo glowed, Dr. Rosenwaks said. He said the goal of the work was to see if the fluorescent marker would carry into the daughter cells, allowing genetic changes to be traced as cells divided.
Researchers justified their work by saying the abnormal embryo would have never become a baby.
Once or twice a week,” Humphry explained, “I get very strange people on the telephone who are anxious to commit suicide because of their depression or sad lives. When they get your number they want to talk and talk. And they call again and again. And they also call all the other right-to-die groups.”
Humphry said that the mainstream right-to-die groups will tell them, “‘We can’t help you. It’s not within our parameters because you aren’t terminally ill.’ But they pursue you. They call and call. And eventually someone will say, ‘George Exoo will probably help you.’ And that gets them off the phone and on to George.”
[HT for Ronson and Anderson pieces: Wesley Smith ; photo of fluorescent human embryo courtesy of Agencies]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
“Researchers justified their work by saying the abnormal embryo would have never become a baby.”
And that’s true- it wouldn’t have. Being triploidy is incompatible with life in humans- it would have naturally aborted shortly after conception.
Glowing Embryos:
These guys got chemistry sets for Christmas but never a Bible. They make Dr. Frankenstein look like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.
nice one HisMan!
That suicide guy and his “trainee” are psychopathic murdering cowards.
Jasper’s QuoTD:
“Come November, Colorado is going to be ground zero for the issue of life in America”
~ Christian Family Alliance of Colorado executive director Mark Hotaling, commenting on A grassroots group, Colorado for Equal Rights seeking to define personhood in the Colorado Constitution as “any human being from the moment of fertilization” signed up 131,245 voters in support of the amendment. It is almost twice the 76,000 signatures needed to put the proposal on the ballot this fall. as quoted by the Denver Post, May 15
Road trip anyone?
Jesus said to his disciples:
HisMan, I have a whole self of bibles and I read everyone at least twice. They all say different thing though. Like the wording in each one is different, that’s why i can’t take the bible literally. And since when aren’t you Catholic?
As for me, for the time being, I’d say I’m caught in a religious limbo (pardon the pun). I don’t feel like I’m being honest going to Catholic church and excepting eucharist like I have for my entire life, yet I still can’t bring myself to say I’m not a Catholic and look to another (Christian) religion.
My friend believes in reincarnation but I can’t because think about it, if someone is born disabled then according to reincarnation they probably deserved it because they were bad in a past life and therefore you get a free pass to treat them like crap.
Jess, you can believe in reincarnation without believing the dogma associated with it. ;)
For example, scientific principle dictates that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but it may change forms. If you see human people as “energy” in the scientific or figurative sense, you can assume human life will be recreated in some form or another, but not necessarily another human form.
And your argument comes from karma (or is that your friend’s?), whereas some who believe in reincarnation simply believe you have more to learn in life and that particular body (even if it is disabled) is the best one for you to learn in for that lifetime.
Jess,
I found myself in a similiar situation 6 years ago, when I found myself no longer agreeing with many of the practices of the Catholic Church (specifically on birth control and how the scandals were handled), but at the same time, I felt safe in and comforted by many of the songs and rituals of mass. I found comfort in a more traditional protestant church, the United Methodist Church or Luthern church, because their beliefs and practices are similiar to the Catholic Church, but less rigid.
“For example, scientific principle dictates that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but it may change forms. If you see human people as “energy” in the scientific or figurative sense, you can assume human life will be recreated in some form or another, but not necessarily another human form.”
I actually completely agree. I had my freshman biology teacher to tell us to rub our hands together very quickly. The heat we felt was energy, well energy transferred to heat. So even if you’re an atheist you have to at least believe your energy goes into the worms that eat you after you die and are buried.
Rachael, my Grandma and Dad are Lutherans. I’m considering asking my Grandma if she’ll take me to church with her one day so I can learn more : )
Jess: I’m considering asking my Grandma if she’ll take me to church with her one day so I can learn more : )
Go for it! Grandmas are the BEST!:)
Jess,
Exactly. They eat our bodies, and in it, they consume our energy. Our nutrients also help the plants and such grow, and by feeding worms or bugs, we’re feeding a whole lot more animals in the process. That’s actually why I don’t want to be buried in a coffin and preserved for hundreds of years. I consider it horribly unnatural and a barrier to the natural decomposition process.
I don’t know whether or not I’ll be “aware” of this process after I die, but I am pretty secure in the knowledge that it will happen. :)