From The Hill, 3:43p EST:
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Stupak says that “at least 6” of his original “dozen” members are standing firmly against the Senate healthcare bill.
Following a 20-minute huddle on the House floor with a handful of the holdouts, Stupak told reporters that he has “not seen an executive order” that would have President Barack Obama ensure that federal funds would not go toward abortions so would not rule out supporting it….
Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) confirmed Stupak’s whip count of at least six holdouts….

The group met on the House floor as the presiding officer gaveled to recess while the president addressed Democratic lawmakers in the Capitol Visitors Center.
But, Stupak, Kaptur, Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper ( D-PA), Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-OH), Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-WV) and Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV) continued to discuss the recent talk of an executive order…. throws more names into the mix:

[I]f Stupak only has 6 members in his bloc, this is basically over. Democrats already hold 7 votes who flipped from No to Yes; Stupak’s 6 plus Joseph Cao, Lynch and Arcuri would equal 9, and if you do the math (I have) you get to 215. That would mean basically one more No to Yes flipper would put you over the top, and I simply believe that Pelosi could get that.
But I’m curious about the other purported members of the Stupak bloc. Four members in my count in the Stupak bloc are not represented in this article. They are:
Jerry Costello (D-IL), Joe Donnelly (D-IN), Dan Lipinski (D-IL) and Marion Berry (D-AR)

In a piece entitled, “Democrats bluffing, don’t have the votes,” 6:01p EST, Byron York in the Washington Examiner reports:

But if there are in fact 32 original Democratic no votes that are still no votes, then Republicans need to find six other Democrats to vote no in order to defeat the bill. Cantor points to 1 original yes vote that has switched to no – Arcuri – and suggests there might be 5 others who could switch: Berry, Costa, Giffords, Lynch, and Space.
That leaves the much-discussed Stupak Group. The pro-life Democrat originally said he had 12 colleagues who originally voted yes but would now vote no. Stupak has lost some of those, but it is not clear how many.
[House Republican Minority Whip Eric] Cantor suggests that in combining those two categories – the yeses who have become no plus the Stupak group – there might be another 12 votes against the bill. “If we add 12 to 32, we get 44 – which leaves Speaker Pelosi 7 votes short,” Cantor concludes….

A 6:04p piece…

Are they bluffing? Well, most Democrats continue to insist that they will have the votes, although they don’t say how they’ll get the ones they don’t already have. Under the circumstances, bluffing is probably the only way they would ever get to 216. With the bill’s unpopularity, the number of vulnerable Democrats and the abortion divisions, they can’t get undecided members to agree to vote for it without a hard deadline. It’s high risk, but they need to put the pressure on wavering Democrats somehow.
If Pelosi or Hoyer were to admit for one second that they were worried, it could create momentum in the other direction. None of the undecideds want to be on record voting for an unpopular bill that won’t become law. No one would ever see any benefits, and Republicans would attack them for voting for Medicare cuts, tax increases and a “government-takeover” for the rest of their career (which may not be all that long).
Are they bluffing? Of course, but it won’t matter as long as they don’t admit it.

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