Pence introduces Planned Parenthood defunding bill
UPDATE 1/10, 10:48a: The list of cosponsors is up. Is your congressperson on the list? If not, ask him or her to sign on, as I just did with my own. Also, we have a bill number: HR217.
1/7, 5:40p: I wrote yesterday that in the coming days and weeks House pro-lifers would be introducing 4 important bills.
The 1st, a bill to repeal Obamacare, has already been set in motion.
And today, Congressman Mike Pence introduced our 2nd bill, the Title X Abortion Provider Prohibition Act, which would cut off Title X funding to organizations that commit abortion. The most obvious target is Planned Parenthood, which Congressman Pence spotlighted in his statement:
It is morally wrong to end an unborn human life by abortion. It is also morally wrong to take the taxpayer dollars of millions of pro-life Americans and use them to promote abortion at home or abroad.
Last year, Planned Parenthood received more than $363 million in revenue from government grants and contracts. During that same time, they performed an unprecedented 324,008 abortions.
The largest abortion provider in America should not also be the largest recipient of federal funding under Title X.
The Title X Abortion Provider Prohibition Act will prevent any family planning funds under Title X from going to Planned Parenthood or other organizations that perform abortions. It will ensure that abortion providers are not being subsidized with federal tax dollars.
I am grateful for the support of more than 122 original co-sponsors….
Am working on getting the names of those cosponsors, so you can see if your rep is on the list and if not, urge him/her to sign on. [UPDATE: Am told the names should be posted Monday.]
Here is video of Congressman Pence introducing the bill…
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
God love him! I will pray for him and for the passage of this bill. Thanks for keeping us informed about this, Jill and team!
This bill will be terminated (LOL) in the Senate.
This is a good start. I can hear those who are okay with abortion saying they don’t want their tax money going to fund wars. But defense of the country is one of the few absolute mandates of our government, whether you agree it truly meets that need or not. Abortion is out and out malevolent evil, and protective of no one.
There goes CC again, with a “lots of lunacy” comment. To find any humor in this subject shows just how blind the other side is.
Thank God for Mr. Pence! This country needs more men like him to stand up and be the protectors they were designed to be! This will most certainly be added to my daily prayers.
“Abortion is out and out malevolent evil, and protective of no one”
Not a universally agreed axiom. Sorry.
“There goes CC again, with a “lots of lunacy” comment.”
Basic “civics” – bills need to be approved by both houses of Congress. They then go to the President for approval or veto. If defunding of PPFA is approved (and it won’t be) it will be vetoed and the veto will be sustained. So don’t get your hopes up.
I think this pretty much sets the tone for the next 2 years in the House: grandstanding hacks like Mike Pence introducing stupid bills that have no chance of actually making it into law.
CC says:
January 7, 2011 at 6:08 pm
“Abortion is out and out malevolent evil, and protective of no one”
Not a universally agreed axiom. Sorry.
Not a valid response. Sorry.
Bravo, Mike Pence! Time to cut off PP’s gravy train of tax dollars. This bill is long overdue.
Joan, why in the world do you spout so much nonsense? It’s stupid to protect children? It’s stupid to protect women from exploitation and irreparable loss? To advocate for the dignity of all human life is mere grandstanding? What a sad, hopeless, and empty world you live in. Jesus came that we might have LIFE and have it abundantly!
CC, You’re “lunatic” comment was using the word “terminate” Not cool. And they can vote however they want. So can we.
WooHoo!
$39.
Right on the heals of this announcement will be… the begging letters from Naral and PP asking for MORE MONEY!
“Please give generously, Cecile needs a new pair of shoes, and you know she can’t be caught shopping at Payless!!”
Pro-Life Governor Jan Brewer’s Brewercare Death Panel has already killed 2 in Arizona and is ready to kill 96 more.
She has blood on her hands.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/07/arizona.transplants/
Oh my mp, did Governor Brewer use a gun or a knife?
“Oh my mp, did Governor Brewer use a gun or a knife?”
She condemned them to death. Knife, gun, fountain pen.
It makes no difference.
Pontius Pilate, meet Jan Brewer.
If pro-choice lobbyists and politicianss expects tax-payers to pay for abortions, then maybe they should expect us to support tax-payer funded elective bariatric surgeries and face-lifts too, because 97-98% of abortions are elective procedures for eco-sociological reasons (fact: less than 3% are preforned for maternal or fetal health indications and rape/incest) for which tax-payers shouldn’t be responsible for elective medical procedures
mp:
It is tragic what is happening in Arizona. We would hope that you would join with us in trying to prevent the same from happening nationwide with rationing under Obamcare.
I am glad to hear that you are so concerned about lives being lost. How do you reconcile the fact that democrats and choicers have the blood of 50 million dead babies on their hands?
Wrong mp, Governor Brewer didn’t condemn them to death, they were “sentenced” to death, by a jury.
“It is tragic what is happening in Arizona.”
It’s murder.
We would hope that you would join with us in trying to prevent the same from happening nationwide with rationing under Obamcare.
You lie. What do you think private health insurance companies do? They RATION, and they provide insurance coverage only to those who worship Mammon.
“How do you reconcile the fact that democrats and choicers have the blood of 50 million dead babies on their hands?”
I don’t reconcile it. I have no politics, but you do, and quite obviously. You hide behind Mammon, the demonic personification of greed, to rationalize murder by calling it a “tragedy.” And why didn’t you mention the hundreds of thousands of innocents killed in the Middle East during the last ten years, or the lives of the soldiers squandered in Bush’s search for non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?
What makes you think I’d want to “join” that?
Are you a mis-guided Christian, or an impostor?
mp, you are wrong. Health insursers provide services for paying consumers. You want the “working class” to cover people that have no intention of paying their way through life. These supposed “poor” people get monthly government checks, food-stemps, section 8 housing, utility subsidies, free breakfast, lunch and dinner meals, free childcare, cell phones, and let’s not forget in my city, they get free computers. So save your outrage for another day pal.
mp, I would also like to add, these people aren’t even thankful or appreciative.
“These supposed “poor” people get monthly government checks, food-stemps, section 8 housing, utility subsidies, free breakfast, lunch and dinner meals, free childcare, cell phones, and let’s not forget in my city, they get free computers. So save your outrage for another day pal.”
“I would also like to add, these people aren’t even thankful or appreciative.”
Thank you for proving my point.
You can explain to Him, on that day, why “those people” deserved to die because, after all, they got all that “free” stuff–even a “free” computer!–and “have no intention of paying their way through life.”
As I said, it’s all about Mammon. It’s all about the money.
I think you’re possessed by Mammon.
“Those people,” whether you like it or not, “pal,” are the children of G_d.
mp, exactly what point did I prove? I have worked in the “non-profit” sector and I guarantee you, they laugh at the producers for being such “saps”. I’m not judging people, I’m just broke. Understand? I have nothing left to give.
mp, so you are judging me by saying I am possessed by “Mammon”? I live a very humble life without frills or frivolity. I am a good wife, mother, grandmother, sister and friend. But I do not expect “society” to support me. I can’t speculate nor think I know what God has in store for me. I do know I lay my head down on my bed and feel comfort and peace.
Repeal health care reform…quite the important bill…GOP, without an alternative going to the floor, is going to vote to reopen the Doughnut hole, add $230 billion to the deficit over the next ten years, allow insurance companies to go back to denying pre-existing conditions, and let folks go back to the free ride of health care.
In fact, didn’t the GOP exempt this one from their rules of having to have offsetting legislation when the CBO says they are adding to the budget? So much for a “new GOP”. Looks like the same ole, same ole…add to the debt themselves, and then cry foul over the debt!
Ex-GOP – You and Nancy Peolsi are the ONLY ones who still believe we can balance the budget by adding a huge new government bureaucracy. CBO only scores what is put in front of them. Did the CBO report include all of the waivers given? Did it include money the government is spending on legal fees to both sides of the constitutionality debate? Did it include any estimates to account for the people who will almost certainly just refuse the mandate and not bother to pay into the government exchanges? And eventually these scofflaws would be incarcerated for not paying in right? Did the CBO score include any estimates for the cost of incarcerating the thousands upon thousands of people?
But I am not the authority in the congress on this; Paul Ryan is the authority in congress and he has expressed in detail how/why the CBO scoring on this is wrong. You can read it here:
http://budget.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=219186
mp,
You agree that what is happening in Arizona is not good. You understand that part of the reason these people died is because the government bureaucracy (in this case the state) was in charge of making their health care eligibity decisions.
Would you also agree that this will only happen more if the federal government is put in charge of overseeing this stuff (aka Obamacare)? btw, the federal government (aka Obamacare) is passing even more of these extra Medicare funding costs and oversight on to the states already. And the states don’t want it.
KansasGirl, may the peace of Jesus Christ be with you and your family always.
truth – the CBO score is out there…now, in the past it appears you and reading information don’t mix well – but again, the score is out there.
I’m just saying the GOP is the same old GOP that it has been for years. “Yes, we are fiscal conservatives…except when we want one of our priorities that add to the deficit (for example, Bush tax cuts 1 and 2, Medicare expansion act, repeal of health care)”. They demand things go through the CBO, yet pick and choose what scores to go with. They are like Bible readers who pick and choose which passages to agree with, and which ones are too hard to fit into their lives.
Ryan’s main response is essentially that the Medicare cuts, which President after President has used in regards to budget numbers – he’s saying they’ll basically never become real because Congress doesn’t have the guts to either make them real, or get rid of them (because it would affect their budget numbers) – it is a problem that has been out there for decades…and that is what Ryan is saying is the big deal.
It is simply the party of no coming up again…they have no alternative to the issues – they are just good and saying they don’t like things.
mp,
Who do you say that Jesus is?
Ex-RINO said:
“(for example, Bush tax cuts 1 and 2, Medicare expansion act, repeal of health care)”.
Ex-RINO, I assume you must have had an extra glass of kool-aid this morning. You don’t quite grasp Ryan’s position on the double-counting. Here is a link to a CNN clip from the congressional budget committe. Maybe you agree with the guy who is responding to Paul Ryan in this video and says he thinks we should be able to count the $532 billion dollars three or four times. This is funny stuff
http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2010/03/paul-ryan-explains-double-counting-in.html
How about it mp. can you step up and answer the tough questions?
Would you agree that what happened to these people in Arizona will only happen more if the federal government is put in charge of overseeing this stuff (aka Obamacare)?
Truth – I’m not Bush bashing – what I’m bashing is how the GOP treats CBO scores and the deficit. For many pieces of legislation (including the new big bill that extended tax cuts and unemployment), they don’t worry about the deficit. They say the CBO is wrong or flat out ignore the effect on the deficit. At other times though, they blast legislation saying they have to abide by PayGo (which I believe was set aside during most of the years 2000-2010) for everything. They pick and choose when to be fiscally disciplined.
Ryan should take up his issue with the CBO – he submitted questions back in regards to his roadmap plan – he should do so here.
Ex-RINO said:
“what I’m bashing is how the GOP treats CBO scores and the deficit. For many pieces of legislation (including the new big bill that extended tax cuts and unemployment), they don’t worry about the deficit.”
Ex-RINO, I don’t think that piece of legislation would not have made it through the new congress. That is why the Democrats pushed it through the lame duck session while they had control.
Ex-RINO said : “Ryan should take up his issue with the CBO – he submitted questions back in regards to his roadmap plan – he should do so here.”
Ex-RINO, I believe the CBO will need to take to take it up with Ryan now.
Truth – the Senate passed it 81-19. Only five right wingers voted no. Want to reconsider that statement?
On the CBO…that is not how it works.
Mike Pence for president
mp,
Deut 8:17-18 17 And beware lest you say in your [mind and] heart, My power and the might of my hand have gotten me this wealth [Strongs OT:2428 ‘chayil’. This hebrew/aramaic word that is translated ‘wealth’ means much more than just ‘riches’. It not only the accumulation of material riches but the ability to preserve, protect and increase it and not loose your righteousness, peace of joy in the process.
Prov 10:22The blessing of the Lord — it makes [truly] rich, and He adds no sorrow with it [neither does toiling increase it]. AMP]
18 But you shall [earnestly] remember the Lord your God, for it is He Who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day. AMP
Suggest you read the parable of the good samaritan. [Luke 10:-37]
Take note there is no government or religion involvment in the samaritan’s ‘choice’ to provide food, clothing and lodging to the injured traveler.
The samaritan, out of his own ‘wealth/mammon’ funded the recovery of the injured traveler.
You want to use other peoples ‘mammon’ to salve your own conscience and you want to use the power of the state to compel people to finance your ‘benevolence’.
Using ’guilt’ in an attempt to manipulate people to get them to do what ‘you’ want is akin to witchcraft.
God does not manipulate HIS children.
Most followers of Christ that I have met [from many different nations, ethnicites languages and denominiations] have a functioning conscience and do a pretty good job of reponding to the needs of their ‘neighbor’.
Truth – the Senate passed it 81-19. Only five right wingers voted no. Want to reconsider that statement? - Ex-RINO, I am pretty sure it never would have made it through the House.
Ex-RINO said “On the CBO…that is not how it works.” Like that guy in the link I sent you said. He could have projected that 500 billion into a CBO score of 2 trillion dollars in savings
Pretty sure it wouldn’t have passed the house? Passed 277-148. Of the 148 who voted no, guess how many were Republican?
All the pro-aborts who said that the Republican’s only talk pro-life must be pulling their hair out.
Ex-RINO. They had their backs to the wall to pass an emergency budget or the government would be shut down right now because the Dumbocrats never bothered to debate or pass any appropriations. If this congress had been in charge it would presented something other than that, so NO, that bill could never have passed in this congress. The bottom line is that the legislation you are referring to passed during a lame duck Dumocraticly contolled house and senate but you want to somehow bend that into an example of the republicans being back to their old ways and blaming them for the bill’s passage. Have you no shame?
Truth – I’ll ask for the second time – of the 148 who voted no, guess how many were Republicans?
On the Pence bill, what do you feel about the abortion exemptions included in it?
Ex-RINO, why should I guess? If you need help finding it then just ask. But I think you know already so I won’t waste my time looking ot up for you. If you know a fact that is somehow relevant to the discussion then just say it. If you want my opinion of any facts then just ask. If you want a guess then ask a Democrat on the budget committee.
Third time – I’ll rephrase then.
How do you reason that the bill would not have passed the House if it wasn’t during a lame duck session? Do you feel a majority of Republicans voted yes, but would change their minds on the bill if it were after the new year? (internal flip-flops?)
Also – On the Pence bill – how do you feel about the abortion exemptions included in it?
“On the Pence bill, what do you feel about the abortion exemptions included in it?”
Ex RINO, The exemptions in the Pence bill are needed to make sure it can pass legal challenges/ current abortion law allows for these exemptions.
Ex-RINO said:
“How do you reason that the bill would not have passed the House if it wasn’t during a lame duck session? Do you feel a majority of Republicans voted yes, but would change their minds on the bill if it were after the new year? (internal flip-flops?)”
Ex-RINO, I’ll repost this answer again for you. Maybe you need to read things twice before you can understand them:
“If this congress had been in charge it would have presented something other than that, so NO, that bill could never have passed in this congress.” Now control your reflex to blame the GOP for everything and read carefully. ‘Set down the kool-aid and walk away. It has blurred your sense of right and wrong. The Democrats had control of the House and the Senate and the presidency when the bill was introduced and when the bill was passed. How can you say they were up to their ‘old’ ways when they were still very much in the minoroty.
And if this congress had been in charge, what they would have passed would have never gotten through the senate. Regardless, to agree with you, I think a few more Republicans would have needed to vote against the bill. They seem to stick to their gun a good chunk of the time…but when they can get more money to rich people…wow, then the compromise comes out.
So on the Pence bill, how does that work? If they perform any abortions that qualify, do they then qualify for funds? Or do they qualify based on a percentage?
To clarify:
How can you say the GOP were up to their ’old’ ways when they were still very much in the minority.
“So on the Pence bill, how does that work? If they perform any abortions that qualify, do they then qualify for funds? Or do they qualify based on a percentage?”
There are no percentages. You either qualify for funding or you don’t. No voodoo or cooking the books to shuffle monies necessary or possible. If you perform abortions outside of those exceptions you get zero dollars. In other words, the largest abortion provider in the US, Planned Parenthood, gets none of my tax dollars. I am ecstatic. When I saw their “choice on earth” Christmas cards I wished them a very Happy Defunding in 2011 and my wish is coming true. The Lord will not be mocked.
When unemployment extensions came up, the GOP put up every fight and blocked legislation. When it came to passing this bill, did you see much of a fight put up?
without Obamacare my mom cant get insurance, because of her pre-existing condition of being a breast cancer survivor. My parents have worked hard all their lives, and because my dad changed jobs after my mom had cancer, she cant get health insurance? How is that fair? My little brother has asthma and without Obamacare their new insurance wouldnt have covered his medication, because it was preexisting. I think Obamacare needs to be there unless there is a good alternative in place.
Sara,
I am glad to hear your mother survived.
I understand where you are coming from cause my son is a cancer survivor. We need to repeal Obamacare and replace Medicare or you and me and your little brother and my son will all be old and without insurance. For now though, cancer treatment is available through Medicaid and Medicare.
But this thread is about some very good news for all of us. Isn’t it great that they are defunding Planned Parenthood?
Would the Title X Abortion Provider Prohibition Act also prevent Planned Parenthood from participating as a provider of services covered by Obamacare unless they quit performing abortions? That would be glorious.
Title X was passed into law by Congress in 1970. The clear and express purpose of Title X was to provide pre-pregnancy services. The authorizing language of the original Title X law includes the following language of section 1008:
“None of the funds appropriated under this title shall be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning.”
Michigan congressman John Dingell was the author of section 1008 in 1970. During discussion of Title X on the House floor, Rep. Dingell [D] made the following statements:
“With the ‘prohibition of abortion’ amendment – Title X, section 1008 – the committee members clearly intend that abortion is not to be encouraged or promoted in any way through this legislation.
Programs which include abortion as a method of family planning are
NOT ELLIGIBLE
for funds allocated through this act.”
“On May 23, 1991 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Rust v. Sullivan that the Title X regulations were constitutional. Proponents of tax-funded abortion counseling claim that the restrictions on abortion referrals under Title X are a restriction of clinic employees’ freedom of speech.
The Court rejected this argument,
noting that abortion proponents may advocate abortion in any context outside of a Title X program.
None of the agencies receiving Title X funds have a constitutional right to those funds.”
yor bro ken,
Thanks for the lesson on Title X!
Janet,
The rest of the story is: To liberals, the law, like the truth, is only an obstacle to be avoided when it hinders and trumpeted when it helps.
[see the marxist dialectic]
Today the same congressman democRAT John Dingell votes predictably to continue the public funding of elective abortion with federal tax dollars anytime and anywhere.
bro ken,
It sounds like this was already settled law already then. How did Planned Parenthood ever get away with receiving these funds? What does the Pence bill do that the 1970 Title X law did not?
Thanks Jill! Here’s a new link to HR217:
http://thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:217:./list/bss/d112HR.lst::
It doesn’t have much of a chance of passing but I’ll write my Congress Critter anyway.
“Isn’t it great that they are defunding Planned Parenthood?”
Hellooo! If this passes the House it won’t get past the Senate. BTW, I notice that Jill hasn’t said a word about the tragedy in Arizona. Is that because Giffords was pro-choice? I suspect that if a “pro-life” member of congress Jill and co. would be urging folks to pray. But regarding this – nada.
Hey CC,
Go to the QOTD.
There are several of us who pray during any tragedy. This one is no exception.
I guess Jill reserves the right to write about whatever she would like to write about.
This being her blog and all.
Carla. I understand that this is Jill’s blog but given that she is such a good Christian, I’m surprised that she hasn’t said anything. Guess if you’re pro-choice you get what you deserve. Eh?
Most people are happy to find out that other people aren’t as bad as they thought they were. CC, on the other hand, delights in her thoughts of us secretly relishing someone else’s tragedy.
I can think of a lot better places this money that banned parenthood gets could go to….National Defense or Social Security!
CC – I don’t want to stoop to the level of the Left in degrading this tragedy. You’re trying to blame the Right for the violent actions of a crazy Leftist? I’m not engaging.
CC,
It sounds to me like Planned parenthood should have already been restricted from getting any Title X funds since the 1970 law first passed. Now we just need congress to make sure none of the funding goes to Planned Barrenhood.
CC Change it to Crazy Catholic. It suits you better.
Liberalism is a mental disorder. CC how do you feel about the fact that S Palin gets death threats?
And CC, who EVER put it into your thick skull that pro-lifers condone these shootings?? No true pro-lifer does!