(Prolifer)ations 9-9-11
by Susie Allen, host of the blog, Pro-Life in TN, and Kelli
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- ProWomanProLife points to a story about Steve Jobs, founder and former CEO of Apple, who was adopted. Imagine if this “unwanted” child had never been born….
- At the Pro-Life Action League, Eric Scheidler writes on the latest Guttmacher report showing no decrease in the unintended pregnancy rate in the US:
Over the period covered in this study, Planned Parenthood’s funding from government grants and contracts increased from $240.9 million to $305.3 million. At the same time, unintended pregnancies rose from 48% to 49% of all pregnancies.
What’s more, the unintended pregnancy rate went up dramatically among poor women—the very group that PP purports to help the most. Measured in the number of poor women per 1,000 of childbearing age, the rate went up from 120 unintended pregnancies in 2001 to 132 in 2006. That’s right: the more money Planned Parenthood got from the government—supposedly to help poor women—the more poor women got pregnant.
Of course, I’m not arguing that increasing government funding to PP caused unintended pregnancy to go up among poor women (though I can think of reasons that might be the case). But it’s crystal clear that PP utterly failed to reduce unintended pregnancy in that group, despite their massive taxpayer subsidy.
- Vital Signs discusses the Obama Justice Department’s aggression toward peaceful abortion protesters and sidewalk counselors. The DOJ has stepped up arrests for supposed violations of the FACE Act, just after publicly stating they don’t have time to enforce immigration violations for any but the most dangerous criminals. I guess they’re too busy busting those dangerous praying grandmothers!
- Priests for Life reminds readers that Sept. 10 is World Suicide Prevention Day, and states, “Experts in Finland report that the risk of death from suicide within a year after an abortion is more than 7 times higher than the risk of suicide within a year after childbirth.”
- ProLifeBlogs highlights Students for Life of America’s latest project, the Pregnant on Campus Initiative, which seeks to provide resources for pregnancy support and parenting among college-aged women.
- Wesley J. Smith describes the slippery slope toward becoming a “pro-suicide” society, where suicide becomes a “right” of the elderly, teens, and depressed individuals instead of a tragedy we seek to prevent.
- John Smeaton explains his concerns over the UK’s National Health Service, which currently pays abortion providers for “counseling” prior to an abortion, as well as for the abortion itself as a separate service. Such a conflict of interest is disconcerting, to say the least.
- Real Choice highlights the death of a 27-year-old woman who bled to death after a “safe, legal” abortion in 1989. Investigators fought to keep the abortionist from destroying the records, which showed he disallowed paramedics from transporting and treating the woman – who was not even pregnant.

Let me get this straight. Obama’s DOJ will turn a blind eye to blatant intimidation of voters in Philiadelphia by Black Panthers, but will go after grandmothers who are praying. As for the illegal immigrants, they are part of the Obama base so big surprise there.
“Imagine if this “unwanted” child had never been born….” – an impossible premise.
“Experts in Finland report that the risk of death from suicide within a year after an abortion is more than 7 times higher than the risk of suicide within a year after childbirth.” – which experts? There is no link in the ‘Priests for Life’ article.
Two of my three sons were slated to be aborted … thanks be to God, their mothers told the CPS workers where they could put their suggestion!
The moms knew that the likelihood of them raising their children was not high, they still had the common sense to carry them to term and to give them life.
Today one of those sons is in the military serving our country – we have not seen him for nineteen months due to his commitment … the other one just got finished mowing our lawn!!!
ALL life is precious!!!
“which experts? There is no link in the ‘Priests for Life’ article.”
http://eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/5/459.full
Thanks Some Guy.
“Our register-based data were incomprehensive on these kind of variables, and more detailed background information for example on mental health, social well-being, substance abuse and socio-economic circumstances among the deceased would be necessary for further analysis” – association is not causation.
Just as a thought, could it be that a drug addict may be more likely to have an abortion if pregnant due to their circumstances and also be more likely to suicide due to their circumstances?
Lee, why do you say that they ‘were slated to be aborted’?
Mary- I never understood why the Black Panther voter intimidation incident was not properly investigated/prosecuted. I know it’s probably political correctness at work, but still… if there were a bunch of skinhead white supremecists intimidating voters in the same manner, there would have been such a hue and cry and they would have been arrested and prosecuted, quickly.
I’m getting pretty tired of this politically correct “thing” in our society that assumes that no “minority” in this country could ever possibly be racist. Because only white people are racist, right? That’s ridiculous.
Whatever happened to equal application of the law? Seems to me that should be a basic premise of a free society.
Points out to the abortion apologists that any other medical treatment associated with a seven times increase in death over the non treatment or control group, is NOT acceptable. Any drug would be withdrawn if such an association of its use with a marked increase in deaths were observed in after market studies.
Wonders if the abortion apologists are celebrating the LACK of ASSOCIATION of planned parenthood growth, funding, and activity with a reduction in unwanted pregnancy rates.
Hi army_wife,
I’m old enough to remember when the KKK, a Democrat organization BTW, could freely intimidate black voters, and for that matter any voter who might vote Republican.
I was under the impression that was why we had a Civil and voting rights movement in this country. I can only assume that Dr.Martin Luther King Jr. is rolling over in his grave.
I’m sorry to say you are correct. Had these been white skinheads, the response would have been entirely different.
Hi army_wife,
Speaking of double standards, did you hear about the Union brownshirts in Washington state taking guards hostage, confronting police, and cutting truck brake lines during a labor dispute? Apparently they returned to their union hall afterwards like good boys. It was a small article on the last page of our local newspaper and on the Drudge report.
Hmmm, now imagine the reaction if those had been Tea Party activists engaging in exactly the same criminal activities.
The argument that abortion could prevent the birth of someone who could help humanity goes both ways. It could prevent the birth of the next Ted Bundy and other “psycho-killers.” The world would have been a better place if Hitler had not been born.
And good for the DOJ. There is fine line between “sidewalk counseling” (while it’s on the sidewalk, it isn’t counseling in any professional sense) and harassment. Women who are entering a health facility should not be subjected to harassment which does, on occasion, occur. Once again, those who are low income are subjected to things that those with more money and better health insurance don’t have to endure. If I had wanted to terminate a pregnancy, all I would have had to have done is walk into the local women’s hospital which is on private property and, as such, does not tolerate the “baby savers” street theater. When I escort at PP, my favorite character is this old guy who wears rosaries and plastic fetus necklaces while holding a great big sign of something that looked like a Jackson Pollock on steroids. The prayer chanters aren’t as colorful. But beyond the comedy factor, there is the danger that at any given time, some pro-life zealot could kill any of us.
No, I didn’t hear about the union guys doing all that but how horrible – cutting brake lines? They really thought that was a good idea? I’m sorry but it’s one thing to protest something you don’t like and it’s another to perform an act that amounts to attempted murder. I hope to heaven that all the cut brake lines were detected and fixed before someone drove the trucks!
I’m not so sure about the unions these days, myself. I know that the basic premise was a good idea – standing up for workers who were being mistreated by their employers – but in this day and age, I don’t know that they are performing any such noble function. It seems to me that their main gig these days is bullying politicians and large companies into keeping jobs and raising wages even for undeserving ”workers”. The unions seem to be more like political special-interest lobbyists now. The worst one that I can think of is the teacher’s union. They’re too sold-out to liberal ideology and not concentrating enough on actually educating kids (you know, math, science, english… not social issues) and the bigger problem is that they oppose any attempt at improving school options (vouchers in particular) because that would dry up their jobs, money, and influence – and they dont’ seem to care that their greed is hurting the kids they are supposed to be caring for and teaching. Perhaps if they focused more on the basics of education rather than liberal social indoctrination, they wouldn’t have to worry about jobs being threatened by vouchers…
“Mary- I never understood why the Black Panther voter intimidation incident was not properly investigated/prosecuted”
It was investigated by the Bush administration. “Of course, when the case was reviewed by the Obama administration, the weakness of the case the case against the national party became apparent, so they pursued an injunction against the one NBPP member with a baton, a decision that has been the basis of the unparalleled waste of time and resources that is this investigation, not to mention elaborate conspiracy theories about the anti-white racism of the president and attorney general.”
But if all one is exposed to is Fox News and right wing blogs, it’s understandable that one would form the wrong impression.
And BTW, the precinct was a black district. None of the actual voters had a problem. Those who filed the complaint were neither black nor from the district. They were “poll watchers” who were looking precisely for this type of issue so that they could discredit the Obama administration. The DOJ “whistle blower,” a hold over from the Bush administration, had an agenda which was enabled by the right wing media.
Anyway, one can hardly compare a couple of menacing looking black dudes with the anti-choice presence at women’s reproductive health clinics – a presence that can be very, very intrusive.
“The unions seem to be more like political special-interest lobbyists now”
LOL – and the Koch brothers and Wall Street are just innocents? And while you’re complaining about unions, the average American wage just keeps going down and now the US has a greater difference between rich and poor that places like the Ivory Coast, Pakistan, and Ethiopia. And it’s easy to blame teachers for all the educational problems when, in reality, there are factors like poverty and parents (in all socio-economic classes) who don’t give a damn about their kid’s future. Vouchers take money away from the public school system and put them into private schools where the standards (they’re all about profit) can be less than the public schools. I can understand why some parents, particularly in poor areas, would support vouchers; but there are still other issues (does this money go to the teaching of religion?) that need to be addressed.
“Perhaps if they focused more on the basics of education rather than liberal social indoctrination”
Got any actual proof of that other than what the Christian right wing tells you? The liberal state of Massachusetts requires its students to have basic competencies in a number of subjects. (MCAS) Thus, the teachers teach to the test which isn’t the answer, either.
CC,
So in spite of video clearly indicating voter intimidation, the Obama admiinistration “reviews” the video and concluded it has a weak case. Why was the guy with the baton even permitted to be there? Is this something normally seen at voting stations? As I said I can remember when klansman “casually” hung around voting stations and this was called voter intimidation. BTW CC, a little history lesson. The KKK, the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party, wanted to make certain blacks AND whites did not vote Republican, so white voters were also intimidated.
So what if it was a black district? That gives these thugs a license? The black voters had no “problem”? What if they did? Would you say something to one of these goons?
What a strange coincidence CC. Voters had no “problem” with klansman hanging around voting stations either. Wonder if it was the same reason voters had no “problem” in Philadelphia.
CC 12:10PM
But how pray tell can these problems exist with Unions to protect workers? The same Unions who have multi millions to spend to get their politicians elected.
CC 11:53am
LOL. But people entering a voting station should be subjected to intimidation! OK, its more appropriate to say it can be overlooked when they are.
Speaking of intimidation CC, think the DOJ will do anything about those Union brownshirts in Washington? I just read that hostage taking is a federal offense. Oh my, but the Unions are Obama’s army, at least according to Jimmy Hoffa Jr., son of Union thug extraordinairre James Hoffa Sr. who was offed by the mob. That can make things a bit complicated for Obama’s DOJ.
“But how pray tell can these problems exist with Unions to protect workers? The same Unions who have multi millions to spend to get their politicians elected.”
You do realize that unions represent only a small fraction of American workers. For those nice, sweet, all-American low wage jobs, look to the non-unionized sector.
“Appearing on CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday, the commission’s vice chair, Abigail Thernstrom, said, “We have no direct evidence that [the NBP activists] actually intimidated anybody, stopped them from voting”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/25/ftn/main6711575.shtml
A default judgement was entered on the guy with the baton.
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/pdf/nbp-memorandum.pdf
And what happened outside this pollling place cannot remotely compare KKK did. (And aborted fetuses aren’t slaves!) But the right wing did love them that new Black Panther case as it was an opportunity to bash the Obama administration and play the “scary black man” thing that Kirsten Powers referenced on “America Live.”
CC,
Why aren’t people standing in line to join Unions? I understand that membership is declining so its not like Unions wouldn’t be happy for the new membership. Just think of all the millions more that could be collected in Union dues!
BTW, ya know what got old Jimmy Hoffa offed by the mob? No, it wasn’t praying too loudly in church. It was his intent to take back control of the Teamsters after he finally got sprung from the slammer. The mob liked the puppet president they already had installed and wanted Jimmy to disappear, which he did. Fine way to repay old Jimmy after years of service and loyalty to the mob.
But keep whining about “union thugs” while your jobs get outsourced and your college educated kids can’t get decent jobs commensurate with their educations. Keep whining about those “union thugs” while you can’t get a decent wage and health benefits.
And what does reported union vandalism have to do with abortion? If you want to talk vandalism, maybe Jill should report on Planned Parenthood vandalism. Obviously, there are violent folks in both movements and violence, on either side, should be condemned.
Why aren’t people standing in line to join Unions?
Because in the “right to work” and anti-union states, many are intimidated into not joining the union if the union is even allowed to organize. But fine, let them work for lower wages and fewer benefits. Builds character, right? Funny, back in the prosperous fifties, the unions were strong. Now we have weak unions and a weak country.
CC 1:58PM
But, but, but, the Unions are supposed to prevent all these things from happening! In our town a local company couldn’t meet Union demands so they said fine, we’ll move to Arkansas where people are standing in line to work. The Union quickly backed down. I’ve spent my life around these people CC, and its their own greed and lust for power that is bringing them down and hurting the average worker.
As for Union thuggery, its only fair to ask if the DOJ is going after vandals and hostage takers with the same vigor with which they plan to go after people demonstrating in front of abortion clinics.
CC 2:01PM
Not quite. People just don’t want to join. Maybe they figure they can better spend their own money rather than give it to some goon. Maybe people figure they can negotiate their own wages and working conditions as well as any union goon can. Also we have labor laws. If employers want good people, they know they don’t come for free.
Unions have long worn out their usefulness CC. They have become the very evil they once stood against.
CC 1:47PM
No evidence they intimidated anyone? Right. Who’s gonna talk? I’m sure there was never any evidence of KKK intimidation either. Come on CC. What were the two goons doing there, planting flowers?
Did you read your own link CC? Apparently he was brandashing his baton at individuals in front of the polling station. I would call that intimidation. The fact is he had NO business being there, much less threatening anyone with anything.
Come on now, if those had been a couple of white supremacist tattooed skinheads instead of the NBP, your reaction would be….what?
“Unions have long worn out their usefulness CC. They have become the very evil they once stood against.”
9-11
New York City
Firefighters
Police
Who Died
To Save Lives
Were
“Union Thugs”
“Union Goons”
No, only those who engage in thuggish behavior are thugs.
And Mary, Jill Stanek, when she worked for that Chicago hospital was probably a member of a union as are other health professionals and those who care for the elderly and disabled. Was she a “union goon?” But you live in Arkansas which tells me all I need to know. Your state ranks 49th in the percentage of those who have college degrees. Liberal, gay friendly, union friendly Massachusetts is number one. Arkansas is number 10 in the list of those states with the highest rates of teen pregnancies. (Don’t you have abstinence education?) And the average wage in Arkansas is 34,919. The wonderful Commonwealth of Mass. is 55,244. So keep on complaining about those union thugs…
Oh, and about the skinheads at the polling place. As I live in an upscale voting district, I doubt if there would be any skinheads there. But if so, it wouldn’t bother me in the least – unless they were blocking me from entering the polling place and in the case in question, they weren’t doing that. The presence of the sidewalk anti-choice street circus, in front of women’s health care clinics, is what is really irksome!(And just so tacky…)
CC,
Hans is correct, I am referring to those who engage in thuggish behavior, like the Hoffas and the like, including that bunch in Washington. I refer to those who collect the money of working men and women to spend on maintaining their own power, to the tune of multi millions. I refer to those who associate with mobsters.
Ya think this might be why union membership is going down?
You’ll have to ask Jill concerning her Union membership, as a medical professional I have never been in a union.
ROFLMAO. Where do you get the idea I live in Arkansas? I don’t live anywhere near there. LOL. But I was raised in a Democrat liberal and union run city that is now in the crapper with a 47% functional literacy rate, and a powerful teacher’s union. Thank you, I have every intention of continuing to complain about union thugs.
CC 5:22PM
If skinheads or NBP want to stand around they may be in violation of anti-loitering laws.
If they are threatening people with batons they are guilty of voter intimidation. I may find PETA people demonstrating in animal costumes as irksome and tacky as you find PL demonstrators in front of abortion clinics, but this is America.