(Prolifer)ations 4-27-12
by Susie Allen, host of the blog, Pro-Life in TN, and Kelli
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- Wesley J. Smith posts the latest on a study of children conceived via IVF. Research shows a 37% higher risk of birth defects – and scientists can’t find the reason for it.
- Women’s Rights Without Frontiers points out a real war on women – forced abortion and gendercide in China.
- Right to Life of Michigan has the miracle story of twins who were born at 25 weeks, a month after their mother suffered two brain aneurysms and was declared brain dead.
- Secular Pro-Life does a detailed breakdown of pro-choice and pro-life polling demographics.
- Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life encourages Gov. Mark Dayton to consider the lives and health of women by signing into a law a recent MN Senate bill banning RU-486 webcam abortions.
- Pro-Life Action League says groups under the banner of UniteWomen.org are planning rallies against the supposed “war on women” tomorrow. Their website purports to “[support] diversity and [welcome] men and women of all ages without regard to their… religious or spiritual beliefs” while mocking religion with various items for sale (note one t-shirt design, pictured left). Even protestors’ babies can get in on the action by wearing “My mom made a choice” onesies. These should be classy events, as always.
- Timmerie’s Blog reports that while other states are making pro-life gains, California moves closer to a bill that would allow non-physicians to perform abortions.
- Suzy B updates readers on Ireland’s continuing fight against making abortion legal:
This week, Ireland’s Dail, their legislative branch, defeated a bill that would have repealed the nation’s abortion ban by a landslide 109-20 margin. The bill would have legalized abortion, allowed doctors to perform abortions without a woman’s consent, and even made certain pro-life activity and protesting punishable by law. It would have also gutted the conscience protections that doctors currently enjoy in Ireland.
- Moral Outcry rejoices that Gov. Phil Bryant will sign the bill that may end abortion in Mississippi. Not long ago, Planned Parenthood mocked and belittled the state during the fight to pass a personhood amendment:
Their wounding statements made me think of the scripture, “Nazareth! Can anything good come from there?”… “Come and see,” said Philip. –John 1:46. The very state that Planned Parenthood schemed to manipulatively belittle in an effort to preserve their “baby womb-tomb empire” would be the very place Hope would be birthed. I believe God was echoing back: Watch and see the good that will come out of Mississippi.
- John Smeaton shares a video poem entitled, “Interview With a Unborn Child”:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phTC5YqhMss[/youtube]
[Image via Pro-Life Action League]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Regarding the Saturday demonstrations: people should try to get pictures of how small the crowds will be.
So do the onesies from Unitewomen say “My mom made a choice not to have my arms and legs ripped off. Thanks Mom!” That would be more truthful.
I just finished reading “A Mother’s Ordeal” In it Chi An talks about watching them inject formaldehyde into the infant’s soft spot during birth. Full term infants whose mothers desperately wanted to protect their babies were strapped down as they labored and the baby’s head injected with poison. THe whole book highlights the evilness of communism and horror of the forced abortions being committed there.
According to the pro-choice to kill babies in the womb crowd abortion is no different then getting a tooth pulled so what is the big deal?
I think the real question is how can they say killing a child is morally equivalent to letting a child live as long as a mother desires it?
Also, I used to work at a school for children with disabilities. Most of the kids there were either children of older parents (parents who had needed help getting pregnant because they delayed their childbearing) or parents who had drug problems.
When I was trying to get pregnant 4 years after having my daughter (5 years after working at that school), they gave me a script for clomid. I THREW IT ON THE GROUND!
“Not even my mother.” Sad words. Even the worst criminals have their mothers in their corner.
The one with the fake Bible quote is actually good, because at least they’re not pretending that their proabortion view is Biblical. Unlike some people.
xalisae says:
April 27, 2012 at 9:51 pm
I think the real question is how can they say killing a child is morally equivalent to letting a child live as long as a mother desires it?
(Denise) This might be because of the special burdens pregnancy imposes on those who are pregnant. The embryo or fetus must be physically CARRIED by the specific girl or woman who is pregnant and whose body must serve as the life support system of the unborn.
People are often puzzled as to why girls and women attempt to escape the ordeal of carrying a pregnancy to term. However, they often use the misleading term “inconvenience” to describe it.
Perhaps it is relevant to consider how people react to a genuine inconvenience: a telemarketing call. Answering these is not an ordeal. It is an inconvenience. Yet many people react with great hostility to these calls.
Why do people react negatively to this minor inconvenience?
If people are going to react negatively to a genuine inconvenience, why should we expect massive numbers to endure unwanted ordeals?
This might be because of the special burdens pregnancy imposes on those who are pregnant. The embryo or fetus must be physically CARRIED by the specific girl or woman who is pregnant and whose body must serve as the life support system of the unborn.
later:
People are often puzzled as to why girls and women attempt to escape the ordeal of carrying a pregnancy to term. However, they often use the misleading term “inconvenience” to describe it.
Perhaps it is relevant to consider how people react to a genuine inconvenience: a telemarketing call. Answering these is not an ordeal. It is an inconvenience. Yet many people react with great hostility to these calls.
Why do people react negatively to this minor inconvenience?
If people are going to react negatively to a genuine inconvenience, why should we expect massive numbers to endure unwanted ordeals?
It’s actually really not that bad/difficult, Denise. Have you ever been pregnant/birthed a child? I wouldn’t have done it twice, my mom wouldn’t have done it 7 times, and my grandmother wouldn’t have done it 10 times if it was really as terrible as you seem to imagine it to be.
God will not be mocked. We won’t be able to stop the pro-aborts without God’s help and when they mock God; they are insuring that God will help us destroy their rememberance from the face of earth.
xalisae says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:14 am
This might be because of the special burdens pregnancy imposes on those who are pregnant. The embryo or fetus must be physically CARRIED by the specific girl or woman who is pregnant and whose body must serve as the life support system of the unborn.
later:
People are often puzzled as to why girls and women attempt to escape the ordeal of carrying a pregnancy to term. However, they often use the misleading term “inconvenience” to describe it.Perhaps it is relevant to consider how people react to a genuine inconvenience: a telemarketing call. Answering these is not an ordeal. It is an inconvenience. Yet many people react with great hostility to these calls.Why do people react negatively to this minor inconvenience?If people are going to react negatively to a genuine inconvenience, why should we expect massive numbers to endure unwanted ordeals?
It’s actually really not that bad/difficult, Denise. Have you ever been pregnant/birthed a child? I wouldn’t have done it twice, my mom wouldn’t have done it 7 times, and my grandmother wouldn’t have done it 10 times if it was really as terrible as you seem to imagine it to be.
(Denise) Pregnancy is always an extremely INTENSE experience. There is always pain, discomfort, and threats to health. For those who WANT to be pregnant, it can be a beautiful experience: they enjoy the feeling of creating new life and bringing that life to fruition. However, if you are reluctant to be pregnant, it can be a horror. A married woman who was pregnant and planning to place her baby for adoption told me, “The past few months have been sheer hell.” I asked her why and she responded, “You’ve never had an unplanned pregnancy, have you? You feel like your body has been invaded.”
When I was growing up in the 1970s, my mother said that an unmarried teen girl I knew was pregnant and added that the girl’s foster mother “wishes she’d never taken her in. She’s been such a disappointment.” I also remember my mother saying, “If you were more like other girls, you might get a boyfriend and get pregnant.” Adolescent girls always seemed to have this pregnancy horror hanging over their heads.
Okay Denise. Does how you make others feel determine whether you get to live or die? Should it? Pregnancy can be an ordeal. Granted. But should the innocent child have to die because it may be an ordeal for the mother to carry him/her? Should the responsibility be on the father and other family to step up and make burden lighter for the mother and to love her through the ordeal or should the responsibility fall on the child to give up his or her life? Does the burden of the pregnancy in any way negate the fact that abortion kills an innocent human being?
@Denise: No one has the right to harm an innocent child even when not harming them will make things very, very difficult for them. Period.
Life is an ordeal, period. Say the Serenity Prayer and move on.
Denise,
It’s *really* trying, both emotionally and physically with much danger to health and increased risk of injury to raise a child of *any* age. We expect people who have VOLUNTARILY engaged in parenthood to accept those risks in order to take care of their minor children, we do not accept it as an excuse to kill the child. There isn’t one shred of difference between the moral or ethical obligation a mother has at 2 months post-conception, 10 months post-conception, or 5 years post conception. They are responsible as the parent for the minor life *they* created. Your arguement is only even theoretically plausible in cases of rape. Except, in every other instance, we don’t accept lethal ‘self-defense’ for anything other than real, immediate, and physical risk of death or extreme injury. So it doesn’t hold ethical or moral weight with rape cases either, although it is more sympathetic.
If and when a parent wishes to reneg (for positive or negative reasons) their responsibility to properly care for a minor under their control they are still responsible for that care until they can find another to care for their child. In the case of an infant that may be a few hours until they can be taken to a safe haven and (legally) abandoned, it might be a few days to arrange an adoption placement, for an older child it might be a few days or even weeks to arrange temporary or permanent placement, for an inutero baby it might be several months (which can happen with an older child too under the right circumstances). A mother who chooses to toss her unwanted week old infant out her window because she ‘can’t’ deal with the imposition of the child for the time it would take her to find a ride and transport the infant to a save haven drop off is just as guilty of killing her child for her ‘convienence’ as one who has an abortion as 12 weeks because she ‘can’t’ deal with the imposition of the child for the 24-28 weeks it would take her to safely hand the child over to a proper care provider. One we consider illegal, one we consider legal, both as morally and ethically indefensible.
Sydney M. says:
April 28, 2012 at 11:26 am
Okay Denise. Does how you make others feel determine whether you get to live or die? Should it? Pregnancy can be an ordeal. Granted. But should the innocent child have to die because it may be an ordeal for the mother to carry him/her?
(Denise) You seem to think I’m for abortion. I’m not. I spent my entire high school years hiding in my room to keep my uterus safe from impregnation largely because I was so upset by the idea of having an abortion — and because I wasn’t sure I could endure the ordeal of carrying to term. That made abortion likely if a boy or man impregnated me — so I took great care not to get impregnated.
I’m perfectly OK with Crisis Pregnancy Centers and their attempts to persuade those who can be persuaded that they should carry to term. It seems to me that carrying to term is far more generous and heroic than aborting.
I’m not gung-ho on adoption since it has many “anti-life” connections as any true crime buff knows but it should be available. I strongly support that adoptions be “open” whenever possible.
However, I have talked to and read about women who said they simply would not carry to term — regardless of the law. For example, Eleanor Cooney said, “I just wasn’t going to complete the pregnancy” and that she “never for one minute” considered carrying to term. This was during the time in which abortion was illegal. Regardless of the law, SOME women are unable — or simply unwilling — to endure this ordeal. I don’t claim to know exactly what the difference is between those who will and those who won’t.
What I DO know is that a planned pregnancy is unlikely to be aborted regardless of the law. Therefore, it makes most sense to invest in ensuring that as many pregnancies as possible are yearned for by the female who gets pregnant.
Again I’d like to remind people that when abortion was illegal it wasn’t prosecuted as murder and that usually only the person who performed it rather than the girl or woman who got it was prosecuted for a crime at all. After Roe v. Wade is overturned, it will again be in its own separate category of crime and only the abortionist will be prosecuted.
Denise,
I’m sorry your mom was a psycho who freaked you out about pregnancy/childbirth. I’m sorry you seem to have been drawn to female friends and acquaintances whose unnatural attitudes about pregnancy and childbirth continued that trend. Please get (more) help.
I don’t claim to know exactly what the difference is between those who will and those who won’t.
Tokophobia.
X,
I had to look that up to make sure it wasn’t the fear of smoking ;)