Life in the debate: Obama “inaudible”
Everyone’s talking about the presidential debate this morning, so I thought I’d open up the conversation here.
I loved this photo on RedState.com., taken afterward. Click to enlarge…
Here are close-ups of the facial expressions, lol. Click both photos to enlarge…
There wasn’t much said on the life issue last night, although President Obama did make a strange comparison between Wall Street reform and living wills:
We stepped in and had the toughest reforms on Wall Street since the 1930s. We said you’ve got – banks, you’ve got to raise your capital requirements. You can’t engage in some of this risky behavior that is putting Main Street at risk. We’re going to make sure that you’ve got to have a living will, so – so we can know how you’re going to wind things down if you make a bad bet so we don’t have other taxpayer bailouts.
The topic of death panels came up, although not in so many words. Per Romney, a point he managed to make six different times during the debate (and which Obama weakly and falsely denied once), speaking about Obamacare…
Number three, it puts in place an unelected board that’s going to tell people, ultimately, what kind of treatments they can have. I don’t like that idea.
The topic of the sanctity of preborn life almost came up, as did the topic of euthanasia/assisted suicide. I was really hoping when Romney started this soliloquy he’d go there. He certainly created openings but just didn’t walk through them. He did touch on the religious freedom issue, though:
The role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents. First, life and liberty. We have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means the military, second to none. I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in maintaining the strength of America’s military.
Second, in that line that says, we are endowed by our Creator with our rights – I believe we must maintain our commitment to religious tolerance and freedom in this country…
We’re a nation that believes we’re all children of the same God. And we care for those that have difficulties – those that are elderly and have problems and challenges, those that disabled, we care for them.
I loved the transcript of Obama’s response:
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I now think/suspect Romney might try to get a mandate from the public to support a change in the laws to protect the preborn.
Let’s pray that Mr. Romney can figure out a way to embrace and pronounce the prolife position publicly and that shyness will be replaced with a subtle courage… the American public will one day thank him for it.
It just goes to show you that it never was that Obama was ever even a good speaker it was always another writers words on a teleprompter, and he is just a puppet with other people’s words. Without his teleprompter he couldn’t say a thing! He looked so angry it was funny.
But I agree with you Jill and Tyler I wish that Romney would have spoken up for Pro-Life issues during the debate! He needs to step up and be bold now! That’s what this country needs is some one not afraid to try to get this country back on the right track! And not afraid to offend someone and do the right thing!
http://voiceforhope.blogspot.com/
I loved the comment on Facebook that said that Michelle would want to go home with Romney.
Oh, if looks could kill! And remember when she mouthed to the Prez “. . .all this for a damn flag!”? She’s a winner.
The battle isn’t over. Aren’t there two more debates between the two of them, on other subjects beyond those covered last night? Romney might have created an open door, but it’s not just the time to walk through them. When he walks through them, it’s going to be very a solid and strong walk, knowing all of us have his back.
What I thought was striking and sad was at the end when the candidates are usually joined by their families. It was the President and First Lady by themselves on one side and then the large and happy Romney family on the other side of the stage.
The transcript contains some comedy gold. Obama actually tries to take credit for some jobs created during the Clinton administration. He actually says “we”. Now, I don’t have warm fuzzies for Hilary, but I do know that she is the one who could use “we” with more accuracy than Obama, and though she didn’t win the nomination, she did pretty darn well in the primaries as numbers go. What was Obama doing during the Clinton administration? Was he writing brilliant articles that were published in prestigious law journals? Uh, nope.
I think Romney came off quite well. He skirted very close to calling Obama an outright liar, but he did it with class. I don’t think it was the appropriate time to bring up the issue of unborn children because the subject at hand was determined by the moderator and was focused on the economy and the deficit. Romney sounded intelligent and clear. Obama was just fumbling around with his usual talking points, unable to find any clear footing. For someone who grew up, in part, outside the United States, I found his “we” references quite hollow. And I will never forget the missus’ 2008 comment: “I’m finally proud to be an American.” Finally, she said. As in, not before this. Don’t forget that. Her husband hasn’t matured since 2008. But he sure has a big ego about “obamacare.”
Despite how hard the media will work, you can’t deny that people are whispering that they’re not going to vote for Obama again and that Romney is coming off like a grown up who can get the job done. He won’t be perfect, but I think he’ll act with leadership and maturity. I for one can’t wait to get a grown up back in the White House and sent this amateur packing.
Like all debates, your view of how it went depends on who you liked going in. I thought Obama looked thoughtful and presidential. I thought Romney looked manic and kind of like a jerk. Your mileage may vary.
Oh thanks Hal. I have missed you!
Your comment made my day!! :)
Although I think it was the other way around. Romney looked thoughtful and presidential and Obama looked manic and kind of like a jerk.
Hi Carla. Maybe we’ll have an interesting 30 days as we run up to election day.
Have a great weekend.
Hal, are you kidding? Even the HuffPo thought Obama really blew it.
This is the first time Romney ever looked good to me, but I still wish I had a third option. :(
Hal,
More than interesting!!
Have a good weekend yourself! :)
Hal,
Anyone would look manic compared to the depressive Obama, brooding over his notes while Romney attempted to look him in the eye.
Meh, I think they both came off pretty not-great, honestly.
I don’t know if I’d hold my breath waiting for Romney to “step up” on the pro-life issue. I just don’t trust politicians. They say what they think they “need” to say to get elected-then “PPPFFFFTTT”. We’ll see.
*Michelle’s look appears to be a pout that says “YOU’RE the reason we’re gonna have to leave ‘OUR’ house “. ;)
“b o is so brilliant that he has trouble putting his thoughts into everyday language.”
incognito blogger
But what do the obamateurs most ardent admirers say?
“He [democRAT senate majority leader Harry Reid] was wowed by Obama’s oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama — a ‘light-skinned’ African American ‘with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,’ ” Halperin and Heilemann say.
”I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” [democRAT Senator Joe] Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
[But doesn’t his empty suit look good?]
I bet the Norwegian Nobel Committe are falling all over themselves queuing up to take ‘the pledge’ and get their obama tattoos.
The Arab spring is in full blossom and peace is breaking out all over the middle east.
A United States Ambassador is raped and murdered and raped and his dead body dragged thru the streets.
Joyfull moderate muslims by the thousands take to t he streets and burn cars and American flags to celebrate.
The Egyptian Army is staged at the Israeli border and the largest international armada since the invasion of Normandy is assembled in the Persian Gulf.
And the obamateur is entertaining a man dressed as a pirate but he does not have time to meet with the Israeli Prime minister or the assesmbled heads of state at the United Nations, but b o does find time to sit down with the nags on ‘The View’.
The price of gas at the pump in the USA has doubled since the 2008 elections, unemployment has not fallen below 8% and the obamateur ‘has not rested’…..from playing golf, over 100 rounds in less than 4 years.
I guess last nights debate is this years ‘October Surprise’.
Hi Alexandra!
Please, an update. Also did you see my last post to you on the other thread concerning legal guardianship or power of attorney?
Reading everyone’s comments again, I discovered a funny thing about Hal’s:
“Like all debates, your view of how it went depends on who you liked going in.”
Perhaps Hal’s high school didn’t have a debate team, but if all debates were predetermined by the audience’s pre-conceived notions about the debaters, then debates wouldn’t be debates, they’d just be posturing exercises. Since that’s not true (though some debates are less than they should be),
what Hal is actually saying is this: “Those of us loyal to Obama have already made up our minds.” So you might as well skip the debates. However, despite the MSM’s desperate spins, there are a lot of Americans out there who are disappointed in this rank amateur and just looking for half a good reason to vote for Romney. Deny if you will, but I had someone literally look both ways then whisper in my ear, “I’m not voting for Obama again..”
Pamela,
Keep the faith. :)
Paul Ryan is from WI and I am so proud of him!
He is awesome with a 100% prolife voting record.
I can’t wait to hear what Romney has to say about LIFE!
I’m starting to wish I actually watched this debate, sounds like it was interesting. All well i suppose its probably on Youtube.
Hal said: Like all debates, your view of how it went depends on who you liked going in. I thought Obama looked thoughtful and presidential. I thought Romney looked manic and kind of like a jerk. Your mileage may vary.
Hal – it’d look different if you didn’t have your lips firmly planted on the President’s behind. I have yet to read a single criticism from you about Obama, when there are very, very serious problems with Libya, Israel, Iran and Fast and Furious.
Isn’t it hard kissing @$$ with rose-colored glasses on? ;-)
Hal is doing his best Mr. Trololo impression, considering that the Obama worshippers at MSNBC were in total meltdown mode after the debate. Not to mention Andrew Sullivan. They knew Obama looked HORRIBLE.
You could have turned the volume off and still known who would make the better president. The body language said it all – Obama looked submissive due to his lack of confidence, which is probably for good reason. Romney was authoritive and sure of himself. He definitely was commanding with the moderator (no, people, that is not called bullying!), and that may keep me from wanting to go on long walks on he beach with him, but we need leadership, and that’s what it looks like.
Right, John Lewandowski?! I couldn’t resist turning to MSNBC to see the reaction. It got ugly. I was expecting to hear at any time “oh, yeah? well … my dad can beat up your dad!” Even my fave Bill Maher said Obama looked like he was missing his teleprompter.
“And the obamateur is entertaining a man dressed as a pirate but he does not have time to meet with the Israeli Prime minister or the assesmbled heads of state at the United Nations, … “
Wrong again. That’s what happens when you trust Fox and Drudge. At least the Russians got it right.
http://rt.com/usa/news/fox-obama-pirate-president-663/
mp,
Be reassured instead that our fearless leader has time to koffeeklutch with the women on The View instead of meeting with world leaders. He leaves that to Hillary.
Be reassured instead that our fearless leader has time to koffeeklutch with the women on The View instead of meeting with world leaders. He leaves that to Hillary.
He was talking about the pirate man. Case closed.
Also, if you’re going to talk about things German, get it right. It’s kaffeeklatsch, not “coffee clutch.”
John Lewandowski: “Hal is doing his best Mr. Trololo impression”
LOL
It’s nice when a meme can be really relevant from time to time. ;-)
Obama has not been challenged by the MSM to any significant degree since he was immaculated in January ’09. He has had his steady companion, Mr. Telepromter, in tow for almost every occasion, big and small. Now when it rests entirely on his shoulders to communicate a cogent thought or two (well, not “entirely” as Jim Lehrer tried to help him a few times) we see what we should have been seeing since day one but for the cowardly and in the tank for Obama media.
Last night he was exposed as really a person of small ideas and intellect. Of course we in the pro-life movement, and especially we here in Illinois have known of Obama’s callous disregard for life to the extreme, but now it is becoming more and more known to the rest of the nation.
Oh yes, he is capable of quite a nasty streak and no doubt we will see the angry and impetuous Obama at round two, coming out swinging fast and furious. Strike the “fast and furious”…this is something I am sure he does not want brought up!
I’d rather that Obama had a talk with some crazy pirate man than the “ladies” of The View. Random crazy pirate man has more credibility.
The Great Orator needed three or four “uhs” for his opening treacly tribute to his anniversary. It kept going downhill from there.
Mr. Romney said, “The role of government… We have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means the military, second to none. I do not believe in cutting our military. I believe in maintaining the strength of America’s military.”
Yes! Yes! Compare with Romans 13: “[The ruler] does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil” (verse 4b).
mp,
A quick review of google indicates that koffeeklutch spelled as such is often used,
Speaking of the Russians, what do you suppose Obama meant when he assured Medvedev he would have more flexibility with missile negotiations in his second term and to pass this message on to Putin?
I stand corrected.
the obamateur does not have time to meet with fake pirates.
That explains how he squeezed in the 104th round of golf.
That and blowing off daily security briefings.
There are still more than 3 weeks left in the month.
How many more October surprises can there be?
I may actually watch the Biden vs Ryan match.
Unless Biden restrict himself to ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers it will present an opportunity for ole black joe to extinguish himself once again and again and again…..
[blondes everywhere may experience a rare moment of euphoric delite at the spectacle of witnessing someone dumber than them. ]
But what if by some strange quirk of fate Biden makes a respectable showing?
How is being ‘upstaged’ by his vp going to make b o look and more importently…feel?
de-odorize the white house: remove b o
There is a great disruption in
the ‘0’ has struck out and obamaville is mired in dispair and dismay.
But the obamaphiles will not abandon their god.
Though b o is faithless, they will remain faithful to their delusion.
The independents, undecideds and first time voters are another story.
Hi Mary! Yes – I saw your post – thank you SO MUCH for it. I’ve meant to e-mail you but just been very busy. I don’t know how feasible legal guardianship is since my father is, by all normal accounts, functional. He does his job well. Pays his rent. Eats well-rounded meals. He really is just….not himself. And in a shockingly cruel, dissociative way. I’ve spent the last year and a half working very hard not to take any of his cruelty personally because I do believe that he is experiencing early-onset dementia, but at this point there is just…nothing I can do to help. It’s absolutely horrible.
I alerted the police re: the specific crazy incidences so that there is at least a record of this kind of thing, even if none of it is illegal or warrants action at this point. :/
Hi Alexandra,
So good to hear from you.
So long as your father is legally competent, whatever that constitutes, its not too likely that you can get a guardianship. I would be concerned about him designating that woman as his power of attorney, which he can do, no matter what you say, so long as he is competent. I think you can only keep a close eye on him and his situation, as well as discuss this with a lawyer. There may be a point where you can seek either.
I feel very badly for you as you seem a very devoted daughter than any parent would be blessed to have.
I’m relieved you are taking this situation with this woman very seriously and I hope you will take measures to protect yourself as well. Drop me an e-mail if you get a chance.
My brother was harassed by a neighbor at his condo who finally approached my brother and said he was veteran and kept a gun in his house . He didn’t realize my brother is an ex-cop who knew this constituted a threat. Empty threat or not, my brother called the local PD who then paid the man an unexpected visit. He’s been nice to my brother since.
“Speaking of the Russians, what do you suppose Obama meant when he assured Medvedev he would have more flexibility with missile negotiations in his second term and to pass this message on to Putin?”
This much is clear: Obama lost the secret decoder ring he uses to communicate with KGB Central. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have said such a thing to Medvedev in such a public venue for fear of being overheard.
mp, he must have also lost his secret hearing aid and that is why they had to lean over close to one another to say it.
DID OBAMA REALLY LOSE—OR WAS HIS PERFORMANCE PART OF AN OVERALL DEBATE STRATEGY THAT HE WILL DEPLOY IN THE FUTURE?
It is so easy to conclude that Obama lost in the last debate or for Obama’s antagonists to claim that he can’t debate. Sen. McCain cautions against such assumptions, saying Obama should not be under-estimated by his opponent. Let us recall that Obama did quite well in many debates as he sought the Presidency in 2007-2008. Now, here is my take on Obama’s debate encounter with Romney on September 3, 2012:
As it unfolded, I, like almost everyone else, was puzzled, frustrated, even angry about Obama’s performance. Upon further reflection long after the event, I have come to the following conclusions:
1. At that debate, Obama was feeling his opponent out, trying to draw him out knowing there are future debates. That partly explains Obama’s smiles and smirks as the debate went on. So, he let Romney exhaust himself on his main arguments, talking points and spins, some would say on his many prevarications, about-faces and falsehoods. He made these statements before a huge national. He can’t retract or correct them in future without losing credibility—and, by pundits’ count, Romney made about 28 mendacious statements that night. He has already tried to correct one—that his own health care law in Mass. has a provision for pre-existing condition.
2. Therefore, since the debate, Obama has gone on the offensives debunking or making fun of Romney’s false and misleading assertions. Expect him to do so even more aggressively in the second debate! He would be hammering Romney on his false logic, bad math and deliberate lies, though he may not outrightly call them “lies.”
3. At the debate, Obama revealed little of himself. So Romney has little to work on. At the debate, Romney was out to prove himself and reverse a bad trend. Obama simply watched—at the end he said ominously that he “enjoyed it.” Obama did not even get into Romney’s disastrous 47% comments. Thus, he denied Romney the opportunity to pedal back before a national audience.
4. Having set Romney up, Obama would be ready for the kill in the next encounter! He knows and can anticipate Romney’s well-rehearsed answers. Obama will do his home work on all of those. Romney can’t on Obama’s; he doesn’t know.
5. The final debate on foreign policy is uniquely Obama’s territory. Romney know little that is meaningful here except what former Bush aids would feed him. But Bush is toxic for this election season. Here, Romney would receive his final body blow!
6. Finally, the new job report bodes well for Obama. It takes the wind out of Romney’s sail. It undercuts severely his main selling point. Obama wins!
Hi folks,
This blog is very, very serious because both candidates are using code catch-phrases to endorse a future that literally sucks (BIG TIME). The main catch-phrase is: ‘North American energy independence’. Sounds great eh, but very few people know what this means [beyond the words]. Here’s a stzrt:
18 minute video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84zIj_EdQdM&feature=edu&list=PL454A0274C1223C90
The second nice-sounding catch-phrase is ‘clean coal’. No such thing exists! Even though the US now has extensive coal, it is problematic because it is ‘dirty’. And I’m not talking about coal’s soot, it is chemically ‘dirty’ = it has some radioactive residue, that cannot be cleaned away.
I think there IS a solution. The inventor of the MEG is Tom Beardon, an American. http://www.cheniere.org Far too many, dismiss this out-of-hand. They shouldn’t because IT WORKS! [This is now!]
I enjoyed watching this short video showing how Obama has been ultra-focused on jobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=30Z-bpo3WcY
Yup. And I’m going to call my friends that are out of work (one for 3 years, one for 2 years) and let them know that they should celebrate the great news – the new jobs report!
truthseeker says: October 5, 2012 at 8:51 pm
“mp, he must have also lost his secret hearing aid and that is why they had to lean over close to one another to say it.”
TS,
way to go!!!!
You slammed the door shut and nailed it closed with that resounder.
JESUS is in the house.
Can I get a yea and amen!
Where is Aunt Esther when we need her loquaciousness!
Dr. Sam-I-Am,
You maybe the only person who believes the obamateur was ‘ropa dopin’ Romney.
The honeymoon is over and the bride is still of waitin for the groom to stop talkin about what he is gonna do and commence to doin it.
You see that look on Moochelles face.
So much for ‘never goin back’.
The obamateur is standing there with his pants on the ground and his derrière on display.
That is why he kept his head down, instead of looking the MAN in the eye.
Chris Arsenault says: October 4, 2012 at 8:48 pm “Hal, Isn’t it hard kissing @$$ with rose-colored glasses on?”
Hal,
I know your penchant for brevity.
A ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ will suffice.
Am I the only one who doubts Dr. Sam is a real doctor?
Dr.Sam – Intentionally getting beat up to outdo his opponent?! Nice. This isn’t Rocky IV, and if it were, it would backfire on Obama, because he’s definitely not Rocky.
Dr. Sam says: October 6, 2012 at 10:55 am
“The final debate on foreign policy is uniquely the ‘obamateurs’ territory.”
Sam-I-Am,
Even if you qualify that statement with ‘compared to Mitt Romney’, you still have to offer some objectably quantifiable evidence of a foreign policy ‘success’ attributable to b o.
I don’t know what kind of doctor you are, but it is hard to imagine anyone having the intelligence to earn a doctorate or complete medical school so devoid of reason and logic and the power of observation.
Does bending the CEO of British Petroleum over a barrel and diddling him til he squeals like pig and forks over the cash, count as a foreign policy ‘success’?
Does having a United States diplomats sodomized, murdered, sodomized and his corpse paraded in public by militant muslims burning American flags count as a foreign policy ‘success’ on your score card?
Do angry mobs celebrating the arab autumn by chanting death to America and burning b o in effigy count as a foreign policy ‘success’ in your book?
Does denying ammunition to the United States Marines who guard our embassies and consulates count as a foreign policy ‘success’ in obamaville?
Does ‘fast and furious’ count as a domestic policy or a foreign policy ’success’ on your score card?
But all that foreign policy ’success’ is balanced out by a purported .6 percent bounce in the unemployment rate that just happened to be announced coincidentally convenient to b o’s scheduled cameo appearance at a recent Romney’s campaign event in Denver.
EX-RINO,
If you still havent decided for whom you will vote for president, here is Snoop Dog’s logic tree cheat sheet:
snoopy doggy’s Top Ten reasons why he will NOT be voting for Romney
and
Top Ten reasons he WILL be voting for the obamateur.
I was particularly impressed with number 5 followed by 9, 1, 3 and 10.
http://instagram.com/p/QYGWYpP9Pd/
I would loved to have transcribed them for you, but sd’s promiscuous use of the ‘n’ word prevents me from doing so.
Look for the snoopy doggy to be making a cameo appearance on David Letterman.
It was ‘cute’ the way the obamateur made a cameo appearance at that recent Romney campaign event in Denver.