Cosmo mag wrong about Jessa Duggar’s Holocaust remarks
by Kelli
Cosmo went into full anti-woman mode. [Writer Jill] Filipovic attacked Jessa Duggar for daring to put history into perspective….
Jessa’s remarks on Instagram conveyed a profound understanding of the past and applied it to the present. Over 56 million human lives have been butchered by an abortion industry birthed in the same racist and elitist pseudoscience of eugenics that created the racial hygiene theory that led to the slaughter of millions in the Holocaust….
Abortion and the Holocaust are so inextricably tied together, no amount of airbrushing could paint a different picture. The American Eugenics movement was the single-most potent influencer of Hitler’s ethnic and racial cleansing “solutions”. Planned Parenthood’s founder, Margaret Sanger, was a member of the American Eugenics Society (AES). Guttmacher Institute’s founder, Alan F. Guttmacher (also President of Planned Parenthood) was the Vice President of AES. Most leadership involved in Planned Parenthood throughout the early to late 20th century, were involved in the American Eugenics Movement.
Prior to the holocaust, Sanger, like her fellow eugenicists, was a staunch proponent of forced sterilizations (only changing her tune to “voluntary” sterilization after the Holocaust revealed what happens when her rhetoric becomes reality)….
This led to our country’s forcible sterilization of over 60,000 people. Nazi Germany modeled its actions after what was already happening here in the United States.
Sanger helped to create the World Population Conferences, a global gathering of leading eugenicists, to promote birth control and other forms of population control. One… was Eugen Fischer…. Sanger included [him] as a contributing leader in her World Population Conference as evidenced here in the program for the event…. It was Fischer’s “racial hygiene theory” that Hitler adopted leading to the mass extermination of over 11 million precious lives.
Frederick Osborn (1889-1981), President of The American Eugenics Society, infamously declared in response to Roe v. Wade: “Birth Control and abortion are turning out to be the great eugenic advances of our time.”…
Jessa Duggar isn’t blinded to history by the broken lens of liberal feminism. The only thing deranged about tying abortion to the holocaust is deniers like Cosmo and its writers who think abortion is simply a fashionable choice.
~ Ryan Bomberger, Townhall.com, October 1
Jessa’s full remarks via Instagram:
I walked through the Holocaust Museum again today… very sobering. Millions of innocents denied the most basic and fundamental of all rights–their right to life. One human destroying the life of another deemed “less than human.” Racism, stemming from the evolutionary idea that man came from something less than human; that some people groups are “more evolved” and others “less evolved.” A denying that our Creator–GOD–made us human from the beginning, all of ONE BLOOD and ONE RACE, descendants of Adam. The belief that some human beings are “not fit to live.” So they’re murdered. Slaughtered. Kids with Down syndrome or other disabilities. The sickly. The elderly. The sanctity of human life varies not in sickness or health, poverty or wealth, elderly or pre-born, little or lots of melanin [making you darker or lighter skinned], or any other factor. “If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small. If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not He that pondereth the heart consider it? and He that keepeth thy soul, doth not He know it? and shall not He render to every man according to his works?” (Proverbs 24:10-12) May we never sit idly by and allow such an atrocity to happen again. Not this generation. We must be a voice for those who cannot speak up for themselves. Because EVERY LIFE IS PRECIOUS. #ProLife
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
You GO Jessa Dugger. Dont allow satan to silence you. My son was from my marriage to my husband. My husband was Jewish and indeed he compared abortion to the holocaust. In fact his half sister ( different mom ) had had 3 abortions. He was disgusted about it. He said ” How the heck could my sister kill her children after what the holocaust did to our family”? She is 45 and childless unless you count the kids she killed. Shes been married since 96 and all she cares about is work and money.
On a side note its so hard to look at the Jewish victims stacked up and left to die. Likewise the aborted babies. I cannot believe I live in a country where children are discarded like a pair of old shoes. This IS satan at work.
God has the children.
Pray for Filipovic and those who are blinded by the prince of this age, that God might spare them from the coming eternal wrath.
Serious ‘Stepford Wives’ eyes.
Ryan Bomberger & Jesse Duggar — You guys RAWK!
“Serious ‘Stepford Wives’ eyes.”
I’d take that over the dead eyes any day.
Her comments are AMAZING and so elegantly and poignantly said. WOW. Thank you Jessa for speaking TRUTH in a society that HATES TRUTH.
Every life is precious. Amen.
No offense to all of you Duggar fans but why do you idolize these people? This young woman’s claim to fame is coming from a family who has made big bucks — a dynasty, really — from having baby after baby after baby. Why is that special? She is entitled to her opinion but who cares? I guess being a second generation brood mare makes her special. These Duggar kids can’t even have private texts without Daddy seeing then. I wonder if any if these kids has ever had an original thought in their heads?
I can’t stand that smug look on Poppa Duggar’s face or that martyred look on Moms. No one forced her to be pregnant for most of her adult life. I agree about the Stepford Wife look, and I bet in a few years one of these kids will be writing a tell-all book about Daddy and Mommy Duggar Dearest.
It seems like these Quiverful types just value women on their ability to have babies. No one has yet answered my question about what happens to women once they are too old to conceive or can’t conceive at all. Are they sent out to a special pasture? If a Quiverful man marries a woman who cannot conceive, can he trade her in for a younger, more fertile model?
I am sorry, this mini-cult gives me the creeps.
Phillymiss I can say as for me Im not a fan and I dont watch the show. My comment was based on what shed said as an individual.
“Brood mare”? Whoa there Philly, when did having many children deserve denigration? I don’t like reality T.V. either, but all of the horrible shows out there and the terrible things people do to each other, and you don’t like it because they are a strict household? I had marijuana, (deadly) alcoholism, domestic violence, random guys coming home, and meth-addicts around my house, I’ll take Duggar for $600 Alex…
Great article by Ryan and Jessa correlating the history of the eugenic movement, Margaret “PP” Sanger, and the connection of the Holocaust and the abortion “movement”.
Wow phillymiss. How are you? I have been out of town and gone a lot recently so I have not posted in a while.
I don’t follow the Duggars, so I really am not a fan but I am sorry you feel so harshly about them. Maybe they are living the way the old-fashioned fundamentalist Christian families lived and they actually like it. I have talked to my parents (one of my parents is now deceased and one still living) about the way old-fashioned Baptists, Methodists and Pentecostals lived back in the day and it seems pretty close to the way the Duggars live right now. My feeling is this (the following comment is NOT directed at ANYONE on this blog so don’t take offence it is a general observation) one thing I will say about them is that they have not been dealing with the many, devastating consequences of premarital sex, out-of-wedlock births, STDs, baby daddy or baby-momma drama, emotional baggage, and our main topic here ABORTION issues. So I will at least give them kudos for that. I will pray that they are not the “mini-cult” that you think they are.
Take care everyone. I have missed you prolifers.
Hi Prolifer L!!! Great to see you.
No I don’t like it because they seen interested in controlling their daughters lives, not their sons. Those older girls had no lives, they were always taking care of the little ones. They even had to dress a certain way. Why are these fundamentalist religions so concerned about the sexual behavior of women? I watched it maybe twice and I found it so annoying I stopped. Just because I’m prolife doesn’t mean I have to go along with everything prolifers think or say. I cant stand Rush, Santorum, Hannity, Drudge, or any of those people. And yes Jessa is going to take her mother’s place as Breeder in Chief. Why else would she be featured on the show? What other value does she bring to it? And for the record the main reason I have a television is to watch football. Most of the other stuff is trash.
Prolifer L there are plenty i families who have avoided teen pregnancy, drugs, etc. and arent cultists who treat women like second class citizens. And you don’t know what goes on after the cameras go off it would be very interesting to see their reaction if one of their kids turned out to be gay.
For me, it’s this simple:
If you stand for the unborn, ESPECIALLY as it might cost you, I’ll stand with you.
Go Jessa!
All I can say is that it was a pretty eloquent, intelligent statement for someone who’s been treated as a “second class citizen.” Bravo Jessa.
The day we get through a thread where people only comment on the content of a Duggar’s quote (or the content of the quote itself, in this case) instead of on how they can’t stand the family will apparently be the day when pigs fly.
Very eloquent Jessa,
I will always give credit where its due.
I think its just sad though that such an articulate, intelligent, and beautiful young woman is being married off to some kid just out of high school. I wonder what the Duggars think of his anti Catholic rant on facebook? Not very Christian of you Ben.
Yeah, but you know what, Mary? I know plenty of PHDs who married PHDs who can’t even figure out that abortion is death of a real human being.
Her parents did something right. Calling her decision to wed as being “married off” is insulting and misogynistic (OH YEAH I went there). She might be happy and excited and in love and hopeful for the future. Good Lord, when did innocence and the desire for purity become such a personal affront to those around you?
Get off her back! She’s speaking the truth, fearlessly. We need MORE of that in the world, not less.
Courtnay,
Your point about the PH.Ds is what??
Exactly what bad thing did I say about Jessa?
She’s being married off to a bigoted school boy daddy picked for her and I’m misogynistic? I hope she is happy, in love and hopeful, since she has no other real choice. That’s what I find to be such a shame.
Oh and Courtnay, before you have another knee jerk reaction,
please read my post a little more thoroughly. I praised her for her eloquence, intelligence, beauty, and for being articulate.
Why would anyone give a flip what Cosmo prints?
Cosmopolitan is the nation’s best-selling monthly magazine. We have to answer their message with one of our own.
We can’t simply ignore Cosmo like we can TIME Magazine (which no one reads).
“No one has yet answered my question about what happens to women once they are too old to conceive or can’t conceive at all.”
They have an awful lot of people who love them and would do anything for them.
“Brood mare”
Referring to a woman as as animal in the name of standing up for women is an oxymoron in my opinion.
“Bigoted school boy”? Huh Mary? Wow. Sounds like you’re pretty bigoted yourself there. I’ve had Catholics come down pretty hard on me telling me I’m going to hell for not being Catholic. Whatevs.
He is born-again. He doesn’t agree with the Catholic church. You don’t have to like it. But that doesn’t make him a “bigoted school boy”. Why not attack his words instead of him?
I am really sad to see pro-lifers bashing those who choose to have a lot of children. If we really believe children are precious then why do we get so bent out of shape when a woman chooses to have 19? The family isn’t on welfare. So what do you care?
The girls tend the younger siblings and the boys do hard labor around the property. WHO CARES? What does it matter to you? If the kids wanted to leave they would. They’re in their 20’s. I cut ties with my parents when I was 20 and moved out on my own. I healed my relationship with my parents a few years later but I needed that time on my own to sink or swim. I didn’t want to live by my parents’ rules so my parents said “Fly the nest” and I did. If the Duggar girls felt oppressed they could leave.
I think it is precious that Jim Bob Duggar wants the right guys to marry his daughters. My bio dad died when I was 3 and I always wanted that daddy-daughter relationship. My mom remarried when I was 8 and my step-dad was a good father but it wasn’t the same I don’t think. My step-dad just died last week and it has been a devastating loss. The only father I’ve ever known. Fathers are so so so important. Thats why all these single mamas that can’t even tell their children who their daddy is (Next Maury–You are NOT the father!) has given rise to violence and the breakdown of society. Children need a mom AND a dad. The Duggars have a mom and a dad who want what is best for their children and guide their children in life-changing decisions. More families should be like that!
I’m not planning on having a ton of kids, I don’t wear long skirts everywhere nor do I curl my hair and I’m not a fan of cults. Just a disclaimer.
But getting back to what Jessa said…it was well put. She is a smart, well-spoken young lady. Kudos to her!
Hi Heather. How are you? Good to be back I missed you guys.
phillymiss I never said that others have not raised their children to not be involved with premarital sex who are not like the Duggars. Actually in my family I have many family members who have lived a chaste life before marriage or some who practiced secondary virginity after turning their lives around but they now have beautiful marriages and families. Like I said I am not a fan and don’t watch the show (maybe once) and since neither of us really watch the show (you said you have watched twice) probably neither of us can really judge. I will agree with you about one thing, none of us can know what goes on behind closed doors in others families. Your comment about one of their children turning out to be “gay” sounds vindictive and almost like wishful thinking. That is so sad.
I tend to think the comments made by Jessa in the article above are from an “smart, well spoken young lady” (like Syndey M and others have said) she doesn’t seem to think of herself like a “second hand citizen”. Well I will keep the prayers coming. Good night and God bless all.
Well I wont say how I feel one way on another about the Duggers. I watched them when I was pregnant a lot because I had gotten so big. ( PS for women who abort because they fear getting fat..AND THEY DO..Ive had 4 kids and Im back to high school weight ) Anyway was this the daughter who wanted to be a nurse? I dont know how much control her father has over her now. If she wants to be a nurse she should go for it. Dad has no say so. On another note perhaps the $ from the show is paying them well and perhaps shes changed her mind. Whatever she decides I wish her the best. At least shes pro life.
@ Del. TIME magazine. lol weve spoken about this before. WORST liberal rag mag double eyeroll@@. Every time I see that thing at a doctors office I shuffle around for a People.
@Del…lol Id rather read about Jenn Anistons 75th pregnancy and 25th failed relationship over that piece of crud any day!!!!! BTW what what WHAT in the world is the tabloids obsession with Aniston getting pregnant? Shes been on the cover of every tabloid for the last 13 years!!!! WHY? Cry me a river. This woman is NOT going to ever have kids! She may never even get married again. A direct quote from Aniston was ” I choose to believe my husband did not cheat on me.” Well we can speculate all we want but the only 2 who know the truth are Pitt and Jolie. And I dont care about THAT anymore because its over! They are now married. I dont care how many ppl disagree with me but Jenn still carries a torch for Brad and is even now saying “I should have worked on my marriage.” Thank you for letting me rant but IMHO she really cant act and the only time I thought she was cute was on Friends. And I even hated that show!
And I dont like Pitt either. Hes not my cup of tea. People rip Angelina apart but imo shes pettier than Aniston she pilots her own airplane ( cool ) shes a good actress and shes adopted children! Yes I think she should have adopted American children but how many kids has Aniston adopted? Shes not Americas sweetheart. Shes an evil pro abort pro gay marriage twit. Yeah I went there. Gay marriage is an abomination! Abortion is an abomination! And yeees Jolie and Pitt are liberals as well. Jolie had a lesbian relationship with some model for a while. But I wish her and Pitt a happy long marriage.
Sorry AJ is prettier than JA…also did you guys know that Aniston hasnt spoken to her mom because she poked fun of her “The Rachel” hairdo? She hasnt made contact in 10 years or more. Waaaaaa what a big baby. Gee can you feel the ” love ” I have for this woman coming through my screen? I am just so sick of her! JA just do me a favor and GO AWAY! .., morning rant with coffee.
Well Sydney M,
If Catholics have done that, they are no less bigoted than Ben. I like to think people like Ben and the Catholics you describe who call themselves “Christian” truly conduct themselves as such, and this means respecting the fact that while we may not share the same religious convictions, we can nonetheless be respectful.
This is one of the reasons I will never get into religious debates or discussions on this blog or elsewhere.
I have no problem with having a lot of children…so long as you the parent takes care of them. I do not view serial reproduction as prolife, especially when the children are dumped on older siblings to care for so that mama can satisfy her need for another pregnancy. Do the children do anything but work? Do they engage in normal social activities with other children and young adults their ages? I mean, those not controlled by mom and dad.
Leaving may not be so easy. These children are socially isolated and their lives rigidly controlled from infancy.
Their educations limited. What else do they know and where can they go? Their family is their family.
Wanting your daughters to marry the right guys is fine. But who says daddy knows best? I agree with you about fathers. Good grief mine was a psycho. I’m very sorry about the loss of your stepfather. I understand what you mean about a father daughter relationship, but I view Jim Bob’s control as pathological.
I agree about Jessa. Where did I say one bad thing about her? On the contrary, I praised her attributes. She is a woman of such great potential who could do so much with her life and have her pick of men instead of being married off to some teenager barely out of high school. Well at least she’s not as bad off as Jana, who remains the chief nanny and household drudge until daddy finds her a husband.
” I agree about the Stepford Wife look, and I bet in a few years one of these kids will be writing a tell-all book about Daddy and Mommy Duggar Dearest.”
Indeed. One or more will see that a measure of security can be had outside of the brainwashing and ‘promises’ of their childhood. It is a sad and horrible thing that’s done to all the Duggar kids.
OK I watch the Duggars and do not see the unhealthy coercion that you are looking for. The parents are extremely patient and have a system to give each child chores to contribute to the family. This is so much healthier than the Jersey Shore/Desperate Housewives reality crap that is on TV.
The daughter makes a beautiful pro-life statement and is brutally attacked by pro-aborts for her expose of the death culture. She’s attacked by “pro-lifers’ for her family’s religious choices. Way to represent LIFE. You don’t have to support her religious choices to support her expression of the pro-life message.
Have to laugh at the differences in how people can see things.
I gotta say, that is a great picture, a transcendently beautiful face. Dayum, girl…..
On the other hand, I suppose there could be a type of vacancy, a desperate, hidden fear of even the tiniest tick or inkling that could somehow imply that, (speaking as Jessa), “I’m not toeing the party line.” A strained quality that reveals years of maintaining a facade…
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Heather: Sorry AJ is prettier than JA…
Now wait a minute, say WHAT? :P
Jennifer Aniston has, at the very least, aged exceptionally well. Angelina Jolie was no doubt more “classically beautiful,” but Jennifer has that slightly offbeat look that can be the most beautiful of all.
Heather, in the present tense, I have to say that Jennifer looks better.
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah56/porkloin1/AJ_zps454ec679.png
Angie’s gettin’ a bit haggard looking. We’re not talking full-blown Crypt-Keeper here, but things are a-changin’….
Back before all the plastic surgery, back in the ‘Gia’ days – man oh man that was when Angelina really looked good.
“Those older girls had no lives, they were always taking care of the little ones.”
So taking care of little ones equals no life? What prolife thinking.
Taking care of little children is an honor.
Read Matthew Chapter 18 to find out what Jesus thinks of the little ones.
@ Doug. Its just one of those things that will never have a resolution. Yes I thin AJ could use a few pounds but aside from that I think shes beautiful. Also Jennifer Anistons direct quote ” I choose to believe my husband when he says he did not cheat on me.” Ok thats all that matters. As far as the divorce Im sorry that it happened but its over with. I just dont think the tabloids should carry on. Just 2 weeks ago the headline read Jennifer Aniston 3 months pregnant with a girl and its been confirmed! Yet another thread reads Aniston reps say the star is NOT pregnant. One minute its Mangelina Jolie or Jennifer Maniston. Whatever. I dont buy magazines but if I read one I avoid any topic about her. I dont care. Its over and I dont “get” Americas obsession with her personal life or her having a child. At 45 it doesnt look like shes planning on it. AJ and Brad are now married with a family. Let them be happy!
And why do people leave Madonna alone when she did the same thing AJ did? She adopted 2 kids from other countries. At LEAST Angelina isnt saying its all about me me me me. Imo thats what Aniston does. She wanted to be the next Rita Hayworth. Im sorry but this woman is average looking. Rita was drop dead beautiful! Well she chose his big flopping film career so best of luck. And her movies stink. I attempted to watch Marley and Me and after 30 min I turned of my DVD player. hideous!
Heather: Also Jennifer Anistons direct quote ” I choose to believe my husband when he says he did not cheat on me.” Ok thats all that matters. As far as the divorce Im sorry that it happened but its over with. I just dont think the tabloids should carry on. Just 2 weeks ago the headline read Jennifer Aniston 3 months pregnant with a girl and its been confirmed! Yet another thread reads Aniston reps say the star is NOT pregnant. One minute its Mangelina Jolie or Jennifer Maniston.
And then:
I dont buy magazines but if I read one I avoid any topic about her.
So, Heather, what is happening here – are truckloads of magazines just showing up at your house for free? :P Seems like you know an awful lot about the goings on…. ;)
No Prax,
Having children dumped on you to care for isn’t pro-life and it isn’t fair, to either the older siblings or the children left in their care.
If raising kids is so great, then I’d like to see Daddy D giving baths, changing diapers, hauling diaper bags, and carrying kids around. Instead he and mama get their trips to Puerto Rico and New York City while their daughters do the drudge work.
Caring for little children is an honor. OK, so take care of your own kids then.
Deni101,
Sure the parents are patient, they don’t take care of the kids. Chores are one thing, taking on parental responsibilities quite another.
I have no issue with their religious choices. Its the guy Daddy D is marrying Jessa off to that seems to have some issues with those who don’t share his religious convictions.
I never said one bad thing about her.
My apologies Mary.
I was not aware that the Duggar children are left in charge of the other children without the parents there helping out as well.
I see nothing wrong with requiring children to help with their siblings if a parent(s) is helping out as well and not leaving the children alone to do it all. Is the Duggar dad doing other work or just watching football and eating bonbons and leaving all the work to the kids? It would be hard for him to change a diaper or make supper if he is actually elsewhere working for the good of the family. Does the Duggar mom never change diapers or clean? Do you think a teenage sibling should never change his little sibling’s diaper or help with laundry? Do the Duggar children handle the discipline? I have seen families where the parents direct all the work to the older kids while they sit and do nothing but scream at the kids and I’m totally with you if that is the case here.
My oldest child was put in charge of his two younger siblings when they were with their father starting at about age 9. Our son was not emotionally mature enough to take care of his siblings without an adult in charge. And many times, good old dad was sitting in the bar from the time the kids got home from school until bar time. I would try to parent on the phone after one of them would call crying about something. The kids did not want me calling their dad at the bar because they would get it when he returned home drunk. My ex was raised the same way. His father was away working and drinking and his mother was out carousing while my ex was left in charge of his siblings.
When my children were with me, I did have them help me and each other out – yard work, laundry, cooking, cleaning, homework, etc. but I was working along side of them, not on vacations or getting drunk. I did not leave them alone to do it. My husband and I did leave them home alone in their late teens for a few overnights and had family and friends keeping an eye out for them. Now that the youngest is almost 18, it is awesome to hear them offer to help their siblings out without being told to do so! My mom always told me to keep your siblings close because they would be the first ones you’d call when times get tough. I found this to be true and I’ve told my children the same thing.
As far as checking what’s on a child’s phone, computer, in a dresser, coat pocket, etc., my husband and I reserve the right to do so as long as we are paying for the items, they are living under our roof, and we sense we are not getting the truth. It has been eye-opening to say the least.
Raising kids isn’t always so great and easy but if it is the terrible drudge you make it out to be, maybe the problem lies within you, not within the Duggars.
Hi Prax,
No problem.
The four oldest girls were also left in charge of about a dozen kids, including one that had spent 6 months in intensive care and was barely more than an infant, still on supplemental oxygen and sleeping with monitors, while JB and Michelle skipped the country. Josie developed a medical crisis, thank goodness she was on monitors as she was barely responsive when her sister found her. Mom and dad sat and sniveled about their “helplessness” in El Salvador. Let’s see, you have children at home, especially a high risk child, and you made no arrangements for a possible emergent return trip? The hounds of hell couldn’t keep you, me or any parent on this blog away from one of our children during a medical crisis.
I agree with you. I have no problem with children helping out. My sister and brother did with me, however begrudgingly, especially when my mother had to go to work. I still remember my sister sneaking me into her nursing school dorm, comparable to a convent, when my mother had to work and I was home sick from school. Someone had to watch me! She went to class and snuck me food. The nuns never knew!
But my brother and sister also had their own lives and friends and my care was not their every day responsibility so my mom could produce babies.
Like millions of parents Daddy D works, but we, moms and dads, for the most part also care for our children, not just produce them. When the family is on trips or a vacation, who is organizing and supervising? Its the daughters. Who’s always carrying a child? The daughters. I have yet to see him do much of anything.
Also Prax,
I agree you and your husband have a right to check computers, phones, etc. In fact its your responsibility as parents. But its quite another if they are adults. The girls live under their roof because they have no other choice, and Daddy D can control them. I am sure that your children have the option to move out when they are adults, and you would never dream of invading their privacy once they have.
I raised three children and it was definitely not all fun and games. I don’t think its any “terrible drudge”, but the responsibility of the parents. I think its terrible that Jana has been relegated to being a 24y/o household drudge and nanny who is still on daddy’s leash.
Mary, I hope you are still checking back here. After your comments, I started learning more about the Duggars. I found this interesting article about the Duggars:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/02/carefully-scripted-lives-my-concerns-about-the-duggars.html
I should have learned more about the family before I made my comments. If what the article says is true, these parents are harmfully controlling their children in my opinion.
I wasn’t even aware the children were home-schooled and have never heard of “blanket training” (which I believe is border-line if not full out abusive treatment of babies).
One of the reasons I think my ex-husband helped out so little with our children is because he was burned out “raising” his siblings. He was left alone to “parent” little kids when he was just a little kid himself.
I do like Jessa’s prolife comments.
Hi Prax,
I’m glad I happened to check back. I must admit I’m not sure how to take your post.
I have no issue with homeschooling. I almost did it myself. I have an issue with the social isolation and control of the children. I’m ambivalent about blanket training.
By “parenting” Prax I mean children who have parental responsibility pushed on them at an early age to free up mom to keep producing babies or pursue other activities. I have said repeatedly I have no issue with children helping out. But if I want to produce children, their care is MY responsibility, not my 7 year old daughter’s.
I like Jessa’s comments very much. She is beautiful, intelligent, articulate, and eloquent. What a shame she’s being married off to a teenager, who I’m sure you’ll agree is not likely to have the maturity for the huge responsibility of having a wife and children. Poor Jana however, at age 24, is still stuck with being chief nanny and household drudge. Frankly I don’t know which is worse. It would sure be nice if they had some real choices.
Hi Mary, I also don’t have an issue with homeschooling on the whole — I once had a neighbor who claimed to homeschool who seemed to do everything but spend time with her kids and I believe some families use it as a form of isolation.
When I first commented, I had it in my head that the Duggar children were out of the house for school (some social time with others outside just family) and that they were helping their parents and each other out when they got home.
I also didn’t realize the Duggars adult children were still at home doing childcare for their sibs.
I should not have commented without researching a bit first.
Hi Prax,
Your link was very insightful. Thank you for getting back to me. I appreciate you clarifying the point you were making.
That has been my point, their social isolation and the rigid control of their lives.
I was thinking of my aunt and uncle who raised a large family, 6 children, under very trying circumstances. The children were all close and helpful, and like my brother and sister would begrudgingly babysit, and they remain a very tightknit extended family to this day. My aunt is practically worshipped.
However, the children attended public schools, they had friends in school and the neighborhood, they took part in social and school activities. They attended summer camp, and selected their own dates and spouses. 3 went to college and one joined the navy. My aunt and uncle were the parents, their children had their own lives and were not confined to the house and expected to take on parental responsibilities so mom could keep having babies or involve herself in other activities of her choosing.
That’s been my whole point Prax, and so many people think I’m arguing that children should not have to help out. I don’t argue that at all.