I have different priorities now. I don’t care what anybody else thinks. As long as I know I’m ready and he’s ready.
~Jersey Shore star Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi with her boyfriend, Jionni LaValle, discussing her recently-announced pregnancy with US Magazine, March 7
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yeah i heard this last week. im not a fan of the show but having a baby makes you grow up. i really wish her well.
Snooki isn’t exactly a role model, but I give her credit for this one. And when people see someone with a party girl reputation reject abortion– who knows, it just might be a perfect antidote to the “having a baby will end your life” abortion sales pitch!
I can’t stand Jersey Shore, but I wish her the best.
Hey Megan…
How does it feel to know that Snookie is more responsible than you?
Seriously. I HATE everything about Jersey Shore. EVERYTHING. But ya gotta hand it to Snookie and her s.o. for stepping up and doing the right thing by their child.
I am glad she is coming down on the side of life. I hope that she sticks to that decision. It worries me when she says “As long as I know I’m ready and he’s ready.” What if she didn’t think she/he were ready? Again, I am glad she is choosing life.
One hopes that she can deal with what appears to be a serious alcohol problem. And “keeping a baby” is more responsible? Yeah, right, keeping a baby when you’re totally irresponsible is just so – responsible. But in your alternate reality, all mommies love their babies and they all live happily ever after. Seriously, what planet do you live on?
And “keeping a baby” is more responsible?
Yes. Yes, absolutely it is more responsible to keep a baby than to kill it. Yes, yes, a billion times yes. So much yes we could fill the whole universe with it, from end to end to end to end, over and over and over with every molecule saying the same welcoming, life-affirming yes.
Yes.
Apparently, this has ALREADY changed her for the better. She WANTS this baby, and she says she’s watching her diet, etc.
Just can’t STAND that she doesn’t want to KILL her child, can you CC?
So much for “choice”.
I guess in CC’s book, Susan Smith was super-responsible.
Hi CC. We live on the planet Earth where human life begins at conception, not when the stork drops a baby in a responsible, college educated, rich married woman’s lap.
I just gotta ask our local abortion worshipper: What kind of slogan or bumper sticker would you make out of that? “If you’re life ain’t perfect, you’re better off DEAD!” LOL!
I never thought I’d type this, but, Go Snooki!!
Snooki is pregnant? This is not going to help anyone’s arguments against abortion.
“Just can’t STAND that she doesn’t want to KILL her child, can you CC?”
Nice bit of perfunctory “pro-life” projection there. Frankly, I don’t care what she does with her pregnancy as I support a woman’s choice to either give birth or terminate the pregnancy. Quite simple, really. What I am concerned about is fetal alcohol syndrome. Oh, right nothing bad ever happens to fetuses that are carried to term. The sky god will provide?
“Nice bit of perfunctory “pro-life” projection there. Frankly, I don’t care what she does with her pregnancy as I support a woman’s choice to either give birth or terminate the pregnancy. Quite simple, really. What I am concerned about is fetal alcohol syndrome. Oh, right nothing bad ever happens to fetuses that are carried to term. The sky god will provide?”
See, it’s exactly this attitude that irritates me to death with some people on the pro-choice side. Whatever happened to actually helping people? You know how many addict girls I have know who wanted to keep their babies, but they didn’t have the help they needed so they aborted? Sheesh.
“Whatever happened to actually helping people? You know how many addict girls I have know who wanted to keep their babies, but they didn’t have the help they needed so they aborted? Sheesh.”
That’s tough. If only they had known about crisis pregnancy centers, they could have gotten a week’s supply of diapers and baby formula and a promise that everything will turn out alright, and then their drug problems would have immediately gone away and they would have given birth to their babies and lived happily ever after.
Funny Joan, my friends who were pressured and urged to abort for the very reasons being listed, had their daughters (yes, all the babies being slated for abortion were FEAMLE) and all the problems that existed DID work out. The drinking. drugging, depression etc.. stopped. These women are now married, have nice little homes, love their babies and seem much much happier.
And its not a “week’s supply” of diapers. There are women who come in for YEARS for food and diapers and other help. Like help overcoming drug addiction, parenting classes, helping moms find work and daycare. YES Joan. We do that TOO. What do you do for them? Oh right. Tell them to get an abortion. Which will run them 400 bucks. Got it.
yeah first the pro choice crowd hammers poor people. If youre poor just kill your children. snooki is rich so now the choice crowd is gonna dwell on her alcohol problem? just kill the kid. wow what a great idea. ah many people i knew were drinkers but they stopped when they became pregnant. it IS possible. i was reading the other day that Tina Turner tried to kill herself after her abortion. susan smith had an abortion ( i read her book ) before she killed micheal and alex. she attempted suicide but they didnt have abortion healing back then. she remained unstable after her abortion. face it~ abortion hurts women! you pro choicers deserve to be labled PRO DEATH!
Gee, cc loves religious people that are pro-abortion, but tell us, sweetness, do you also mock their “sky god” to their faces???
What most abortion advocates don’t want to know is that you can’t kill your way to a perfect life. Even if you plan your family with swiss precision, things can go wrong. A father who is stable can suddenly become unstable, a child born healthy can develop a disease or get hurt in an accident. To hear cc and joan, you’d think all you have to do is abort some kids and life will just smooth itself out for you. It won’t, it never will. Life is challenging.
Sorry, joan and cc, you can’t just kill your way to a convenient life.
“That’s tough. If only they had known about crisis pregnancy centers, they could have gotten a week’s supply of diapers and baby formula and a promise that everything will turn out alright, and then their drug problems would have immediately gone away and they would have given birth to their babies and lived happily ever after.”
Oh joan, your compassion is showing again. I don’t know if you have ever heard of things such as rehab facilities, psychiatric care, social programs such as WIC and SNAP, etc. But you are right, let the druggies abort their fetuses and get busy dying out of sight. They are not reaching their “full human potential”, after all.
they dont support keeping the baby. they want you to get up on that abortion table and kill your baby (many pro aborts are in sooooo much denial and their guilt is killing them) misery loves company! its the culture of death. they want you to choose death.
Pro-abort Compassion = oxymoron.
See, it’s exactly this attitude that irritates me to death with some people on the pro-choice side. Whatever happened to actually helping people? You know how many addict girls I have know who wanted to keep their babies, but they didn’t have the help they needed so they aborted? Sheesh.
Quoted for truth.
I feel like the pro-abortion folks don’t really understand what death is. Dying is not some sort of magical, get-out-of-suffering-free card. It’s what occurs when a living being reaches an amount of suffering greater than what they can tolerate without being destroyed. Killing the unborn doesn’t save them from suffering, it is the result of saturating them with suffering.
Ol’ Snook will be 25 years old this year. Who knows? Maybe she is ready, and I hope that holds true for the guy as well.
ive tried to explain to cc time and time again….my husband is pro life and so is his brother and indeed they are Jewish! shes always got this strange hang up about Jewish people being pro choice. perhaps the women you hang out with dont consult with the “sky ghost” and they ought to. they are misguided cc and so are you!
lets face it cc has issues. issues that are above and beyond this abortion debate. any woman who inserts a turkey baster and inserts air into her vagina because her period was late after she had sex…( a pregnancy was NEVER confirmed by a doctor or a pregnancy test) and shes telling us she had a heavy period after this grotesque act. okay then she says she gave herself an abortion? need i say more? cc get help! it indicates mental instability.
id be very careful if i were you. you are coming up on 70 which is great in my eyes BUT liberals dont think youre worth much as you age. i will spare you some of the comments a nurse made to me about an older nurse. ( she died from brain cancer in her 60s) it was pretty awful. although he and i got along just fine im pretty sure he was a liberal.
“Oh joan, your compassion is showing again. I don’t know if you have ever heard of things such as rehab facilities, psychiatric care, social programs such as WIC and SNAP, etc. But you are right, let the druggies abort their fetuses and get busy dying out of sight. They are not reaching their “full human potential”, after all.”
That’s not what I said at all. And you can spare me your lecture about the mostly government-subsidized (WIC and SNAP are both federal programs) forms of assistance available to the underprivileged and those with drug problems, considering it’s the major political party that counts among its ranks almost the entire pro-life movement that is obsessed with slashing those kinds of things. It’s not going to be my vote that helps to shrink or abolish the services you mentioned here, under the fig leaf that it won’t be a problem because churches and private charities will pick up the slack (yeah right). No, that’s a standard conservative, not liberal or pro-choice, position. “Whatever happened to helping people?” indeed.
Joan, no one here is against helping people in need.
We are against killing for convenience. If abortion’s so good, why is your spirit so black and damaged?
Joan, pro-lifers who are conservative (because, btw, they run the whole gamut religiously, politically, ethnically etc..) are not against helping those in need. I used to donate to food pantries. I support charities that help those who are poor and in need. My husband and I lost half of our income. When I did our taxes and realized how little we truly made this year I was shocked. We are living, according to the government, below poverty level. So I feel for people struggling. I’m there. I just don’t think government is the suitable vehicle for getting help to poor people. We already know government wastes most of every dollar it takes in for “poor people”. I’m just saying there are BETTER ways. And I don’t think money should be forcibly removed from those who earned it to be given to those who have not.
But I do think most Americans are very generous and good-hearted and want to help the poor. They should give what they want to give of their own free will to charities that will directly help the poor, not end up wasted in government bureaucracy.
hey syd…..March 15th? the baby is a comin;)
“I just don’t think government is the suitable vehicle for getting help to poor people. We already know government wastes most of every dollar it takes in for “poor people”.”
Why not? What are you basing this assertion on? Have you worked in government or non-profit before? I’d love to know what the source of your seeming insight on “waste” in “government bureaucracy”, vis-a-vis the implied efficiency of private enterprise, is. Because I’m guessing it’s really just something that you heard a millionaire talking head on Fox News or conservative radio tell you.
You know you wanna have an Aries instead. March 20th! You can do it!!!
child hating pro aborts get old and they will never have a child call them or come to see them. they become bitter because deep down they are miserable and they want to tell other women to kill their children. do not listen to them and their evil ideas. some people are just evil and they will remain that way..BUT as NINEK always says its NEVER too late to embrace life.
joan-
After watching the military waste that I saw first hand with my own eyes in 5 years of life on an army base, I can safely say that I would not trust the government to petsit my goldfish for a week.
I’m crossing my fingers, hiding my eyes for the next 18 years, and saying with a quivering voice, “Congratulations!”
Jack, please italicize quotes! I thought you’d gone over to the dark side, buddy! :)
(I don’t always read CC’s comments! :) )
lol, Hans, you crack me up! <3
Joan, yes, I have done research into it. I (don’t laugh) did my senior research paper on it. I’m sure in the past 14 years the wastefulness has gotten worse, not better. Just read the papers with all the articles about how the welfare offices are struggling for funds. WASTE.
But I am not about to go digging around to show you all the many, many, many references I used to come to this conclusion. I am too tired. Do your own research if you truly want to know.
I have been having contractions all day but they are not true labor contractions yet. Doctor checked me and said I’m 2 cm dilated. I may be imparting personhood to my fetus this weekend! I’ll keep all my friends on here posted when I truly go into labor.
xalisae,
That would put me in some pretty good company. Same back atcha!
Good luck, Sydney!
I was 3cm with my son for 2 WEEKS!, contractions every night starting at about 7pm. It was terrible. Also sucked that he ended up weighing 9lbs 6oz. ;_;
Here’s hoping things go better for ya. :)
Jack, make that Joan’s comments that I don’t always read either. But what’s the diff?
Lol, sorry Hans. I’m already on the dark side, haven’t you heard? Pro-lifers hate women, want to go back to the Middle Ages, blah blah blah. ;)
Sydney! God’s blessings with you as your confer humanity upon your blobs of tissue!! Yay, you!!
Praying for a safe delivery!
Dying is not some sort of magical, get-out-of-suffering-free card. It’s what occurs when a living being reaches an amount of suffering greater than what they can tolerate without being destroyed. Killing the unborn doesn’t save them from suffering, it is the result of saturating them with suffering.
Very, very well-said, Alice; thank you.
I wish the new parents – and all new parents- the best.
The discussion of partying/drinking reminds me of a man who happened by a local chop shop, saw my picket sign, and proceeded to tell me his own story. The gist of it was that he and his girlfriend were living pretty wild lives – lots of drinking drugs partying- when she became pregnant. Neither of them thought it was OK to kill their child, so they didn’t; and having to assume the responsibilities of parenthood, albeit unplanned, unexpected parenthood, caused them both to realign their lives in the child’s best interests…which didn’t hurt them any, either. “A little child shall lead them”…if they are but open to that leading.
xalisae and Sydney,
Well, I’d say to try to hold off for Aquarius, but I guess that’d be pushing it. :)
Oh Xalisae… don’t tell me that. I can’t wait 2 weeks… and 9 pounds????? I am clenching my legs together in fear. lol.
Jack,
Yeah. And we don’t care about babies after their born. Unless you happen to have caught Sydney’s comment back upstream, that is.
“That’s not what I said at all. And you can spare me your lecture about the mostly government-subsidized (WIC and SNAP are both federal programs) forms of assistance available to the underprivileged and those with drug problems, considering it’s the major political party that counts among its ranks almost the entire pro-life movement that is obsessed with slashing those kinds of things. It’s not going to be my vote that helps to shrink or abolish the services you mentioned here, under the fig leaf that it won’t be a problem because churches and private charities will pick up the slack (yeah right). No, that’s a standard conservative, not liberal or pro-choice, position. “Whatever happened to helping people?” indeed.”
Yeah… I’m not conservative, nor do I trust churches, really, so nice try. What I was responding to, is CC’s and a lot of choicer’s idea is that abortion is preferable, even a good thing, when the mother is struggling with an addiction. A lot of times pregnant women with substance abuse problems aren’t offered assistance, they are given an abortion and sent off back to the same life, no help offered. They don’t get the “choice” to keep their child, since it is implied from the get-go that everything will be better if they abort. They are shamed and told they are selfish if they want to keep the pregnancy. I have seen this over and over again, from people who are supposed to be helping addicts. It’s maddening.
Congratulations Snooki!
Hans,
If only. Aquarians ROCK.
Sydney,
It wasn’t his fault. With a mom like me, my first mancub couldn’t help but be MIGHTY. Rawr!
XP
My second child was 9 lbs. 12 oz and 8 days late.
Wishing you a speedy delivery and healthy baby, Sydney! :)
xalisae,
If only. Aquarians ROCK!
Not all of us. I just looked it up and Saul Alinsky shares my birthday. Yikes!
Didn’t they move the dates a couple of weeks a few years ago?
Geminis are so much cooler than Aquarians. :)
Hey, one of you is enough, Jack! :)
Jack, there are two Geminis in my house already. No thank you on more Geminis. lol. We are toooo emotional.
Thank you all for the well wishes. I hope to have a baby. I mean, at this point its anybody’s guess what it is in there. If there is one thing I learned on this site from CC, Joan, Duck, Biggz etc.. is that pregnancy does NOT equal baby. I’m really hoping an actual baby comes out and not a large blob of flesh. Or worse, just part of my own body. I’ll let you know how it all turns out. ;-)
JackBorsch says:
March 9, 2012 at 11:15 pm
Geminis are so much cooler than Aquarians.
Yea…they are ;)
Okay. One Jack and one Pamela. I can handle that. :)
Nope, we are Geminis, split personalities. There are four of us. :P
Ah yes. A leftist pro-lifer. No wonder you’re of two minds! ;)
I do seem to confuse people at times, haha.
You’re all right, Jack! (Which I believe was an old series of British films.)
Libras are cool i guess. we are fair people and we look at both sides of everything. if a libra likes you we will bend over backwards and if we dont…… watch out!……..kidding;)
So Sydney is getting ready to have her baby while complaining about her tax dollars (and if she is as financially strapped as she says, she probably won’t be paying any federal income taxes) being “forcibly removed” to help other women who are having babies but don’t have the support system that Sydney does. Once again, CPC’s and churches do not provide the equivalent of what “welfare” can provide to a poor woman; i.e. Medical Assistance, monthly check, food stamps, access to education/training programs, subsidized child care during the education/training. And I guess Sydney objects to tax dollars subsidizing elderly in nursing homes who would never be able to pay, privately, for the costs. Our tax dollars also go to the disabled – many of them veterans. Once again, for some in the pro-life world, once you leave the birth canal, all bets are off.
And BTW, while many folks can eventually conquer their substance issues, some don’t and many of those folks will have their parental rights terminated. Wonder if Sydney objects to all those tax dollars being spent for child protective services and ancillary court expenses. Oh right, once mommies have babies, they all live happily ever after. Right…
And Heather – just because you know some pro-life Jews doesn’t obviate the reality that polling data shows that an overwhelming majority support choice. Given that you claim to be a nurse, you pathological aversion to facts is rather strange.
cc ive been an LPN since 88 so i know a thing or 2 about people with mental illness. i mean do you know how INSANE you sound? i will bet those Jewish women dont like you at all. they tolerate you. that rabbi you talk about is misguided. seek mental health help cc. the turkey baster tale grosses me out…yak! it would be like me getting a pain in my breast and cutting it off with a knife. then id go around telling everyone i was a breast cancer survivor. i mean you have got to admit its beyond strange cc. whats the matter with you?
Hey to all my fellow Club Gemini members. ;)
What I am concerned about is fetal alcohol syndrome.
Then go volunteer with at-risk women or go volunteer to help children with FAS. Better yet, adopt a couple FAS children!
they do say Libras and Geminis make good friends. most of my friends happen to be Geminis lol. you guys balance the Libra out;) until your evil twin comes out. lol
@ jack….yeah i think you and i agree on addiction. there is a really seedy section of town where crack and heroin addicted women sell their bodies ( im sure every city has them) i dont have the solution. im probably going to get a lot of verbal backlash for saying this but i think these women need to have their tubes tied. these girls have a lot of abortions or they have babies who are taken right from the womb because mom tested positive for cocaine. i am dead serious i know a girl ( not a friend or anything ) shes got 13 kids. she has custody of NONE of them! idk why she keeps doing it but shes a crack prostitute. that makes me sick. likewise the same women kill their kids on our tax dollars. i mean treatment is find and dandy but face it….it doesnt really work for many. sigh~ does anyone agree with me? steralize them!
these girls are often found nude dead and with a needle with their arm. they are murdered in dope houses and nobody cares. they usually become part of the cold case files.
CC, what is so hard to understand that welfare encourages apathy? Welfare does not encourage people to get up and make a go of it. Welfare encourages out of wedlock pregnancies. Welfare does not encourage marriage and a strong family unit. Ever heard of Star Parker? She spells it out really well. Welfare is depressing for the people on it. It is enslavement.
My husband and I could probably qualify for welfare at this point. We won’t do it. Things are tough now. Things will be better in the future. I know it. My husband is working two jobs.
I do not think that OTHER PEOPLE should have to pay for my food and healthcare and rent. Again, helping the poor is an admirable thing but the government should not take from other families who also have rent/mortgage to pay and kids to feed and give to me and my husband. Taxes are always creeping up. When is enough enough? Socialism doesn’t help anyone.
But I think your bitter diatribe is just because I’m about to have a baby. That just irks you for some reason doesn’t it. That I didn’t kill my baby. That he is alive. That he is about to come out and we’re all going to rejoice. Boy, that gets your blood boiling…
Heather,
There is a program that pays addicted women to be sterilized:
http://moronicprochoicequotes.blogspot.com/2012/02/paying-addicted-women-to-be-sterlized.html
Sydney–I really hope you have a baby too. I have been pregnant 3 times to term and each time I had a real baby. So try not to worry. Gosh, keep us posted!
MPQ i have heard of this…BTW i just love you! you crack me up! youre blunt like me. anyway i dont mean to sound cruel but im just saying that these women dont need to get pregnant. they are irresponsible. now im going to your link.
Thanks, Heather. On one hand this program creeps me out because it seems like social engineering, on the other it seems like a responsible choice, as long as it’s voluntary. Very tough call.
i know mpq its a tough call. i dont waant to sound like china. i feel bad for men and women with addictions but really ive seen them spiral in and out of rehab and many just dont want any help. that crack especially is a demon. it must be hard to quit because i have yet to see someone do it. im sorry but if youre selling your body for ten bucks you dont need to get pregnant. many women do take advantage of this program because they know they dont need to be pregnant.
Idk, I hate the thought of targeting addicts for sterilization. Ya know, a lot of us get out of it and go on to lead productive lives. We aren’t all going to stay addicts forever. I can see why people would think it’s a good idea though. Tough. I really, really hope that sterilization program never goes beyond a voluntary program.
Yeah it is. I’ve been surprised at how hard this one is-obviously no one wants babies to be born into addiction, but then there’s the possible regret of the women later if their circumstances change. It’s turned out to be tough to reconcile for me, when it looks like such a cut and dried issue on the outside. I’m still very unsure where I stand on this, which has kind of taken me aback. A lot to consider with this one.
yes circumstances can change. i just hate to see them change 12 abortions later OR 12 births ending in foster care. i know a woman who has been on the streets ( by her own admission ) since she was 13. shes 46 years old now ~ crack addict. in and out of jail. its sad. she told me she has 2 grown sons in another part of Ohio. she was sterilized after they were born. id rather see that then an irresponsible mother.
Oh my goodness MPCQ, that link makes me so depressed. I don’t know the solution. I knew addicts who got pregnant who just aborted, they didn’t feel ready to quit and there wasn’t much help available for any of us. I only knew a couple who kept their babies, one of them ended up getting out of it all and as far as I know she is doing well. The other got her kid taken at birth because he tested positive for junk. It’s a rough question. And really, waving three hundred bucks in front of an addict is almost guaranteeing they will go through with it, in my darkest days if someone had done that I might have taken them up on it. :/ Heather a lot of people start drugs really young, usually has to do with screwed up and abusive families. I was twelve when I started drinking, was a junkie by 14. I hate to see all that stuff too, but I do know people can get out of it with help. It’s hard to think about.
yeah that link was depressing. we live in a Godless society and its gonna get worse. Jack yeah i know tons of junkies and alcoholics. i mean its nothing shoking or new. its everywhere. i just hear some guys talk about the hookers and pretty much they will do anything for a rock. its sad but crack is popular here. heroin is too. those girls are raped and beaten but they just keep selling their soul to the devil. i guess the drugs are just too powerful. i thank God that i never picked up any of that garbage.
sorry bout my typos….its my tiny phone.
Agreed, Jack and Heather. This one seemed like a no brainer to me and it turned out to be anything but. It also highlighted for me how we fail mothers as a country sometimes. We really have so much work to do and it’s daunting to try and figure out where to even start.
i know MPQ idk where to begin. i blame womens lib too. it did NOT liberate women. it put us in bondage.
she was sterilized after they were born. id rather see that then an irresponsible mother
I think we should sterilize any man who has sex with an addicted woman or pays a woman for intercourse.
Certainly, Praxedes. I have less problem with that, LOL. I despise johns.
Good point-the men get the easier end of the deal. Another of the many issues that arise out of this one.
oh sure i wasnt letting men off the hook but its the woman who makes the choice to walk the streets and shes the one who will get pregnant. i think men who pick up hookers are disgusting and i think hookers are disgusting too.
A lot of prostitutes are horribly damaged people, Heather. I don’t think calling them disgusting helps much.
Snooki has lots of money so I suspect she will be fine. I also suspect that Gianni had a vested stake (pun intended) in getting her pregnant as she probably makes lots more money than he does. The funny thing is that it might not be Gianni’s baby given that Snooki has “gotten it in” (her term) with Vinnie and The Situation. Snooki thought that her UTI was from “having too much butt sex” (her phrase). She’s such a role model!
jack yes true but addiction is undecided. AA was started here in Akron OH. now if you ask some people the majority of them believe its a CHOICE to do drugs. they dont believe its a disease at all. some do. i quit smoking. thats an addiction but i made a choice to put it down. hookers spread diseases and i also believe they make a choice to do what they do. i stand by what i say. there are places to get help. even FREE help.
back on topic….cc youre just mad cuz she didnt kill the baby. if she had you would be taking up for her. cc you are a pro death nut!
Heather, there are numerous studies supporting that opiates in particular and illegal drugs in general actually change your brain chemistry, to the point that it can literally kill you to just stop them. I nearly died in rehab from seizures, I would have died if I hadn’t been treated. And the treatments are expensive and there isn’t enough assistance for every addict. I just lucked out because my in-laws are rich. I know that kind of contradicts what I am saying about pregnant addicts seeking help, but a lot of states have it triaged where the more needy (pregnant, minor, etc) people get bumped up on the list. Anyway, the point is, addiction isn’t a choice. Trying to overcome it is a choice, but the addiction isn’t. I will never not crave opiates, the addiction is still there even though I have gotten on the other side of it.
And when it comes to hookers, yeah, they can spread disease. I am more judgmental of the “nice Christian married men” who take advantage of desperate people to get their pervy rocks off than I am of the desperate people! And I am more judgmental of myself, I never hooked but I did steal, sell drugs, and did all kinds of stuff that probably caused more damage to people than any hooker ever did. I think people judge prostitutes too harshly, I have never met one who didn’t hate herself and hate what she was doing.
And seriously, CC, you complain about pro-lifers judging people’s sex lives, who are you to judge Snooki’s?! :)
I don’t see any problem with sterilization. It can be undone later on (quite easily depending upon what type of procedure is used), even though it’s expensive to have reversed it’s not impossible, and I think that’d be an excellent way to make certain that babies are born to these people when they’re ready and wanted.
“I think that’d be an excellent way to make certain that babies are born to these people when they’re ready and wanted.”
That would bring up the question of what other “undesirables” need to be sterilized. Like some states sterilizing blacks, mental patients, and rape victims, that actually happened. The government having the power to sterilize people they think are unfit is not cool.
Also, its not only addicts who are popping out kids who are damaged for life. I am not sure if you are talking about mandatory or voluntary sterilization, but I won’t ever be for mandatory.
why are we picking on christian men getting their sexual jollies? they must not be christians to begin with. thats the kind of intolerance im talking about. dont judge people unless they happen to be christian.
Jack,
I’m a libertarian, of course I mean voluntary all the way, baby!
;P
Sorry, Heather, it wasn’t meant to pick on only Christian men. I think all men who buy hookers are disgusting. The hypocrisy of the ones claiming to be Christian irritate me the most, however. Like this one guy who would come preach to us street kids, but offered me 200 bucks to spend a couple hours in a hotel room with him. Cool stuff. Didn’t take him up on it, so he got some other boy to do it. These people really are disgusting.
This thread has become depressing. Let’s get it back to another serious topic.
What’s your sign? ;)
Libra Hans;) Jack im sorry you had that experience. i knew a Catholic guy who used to hit on me at work all the time. he became very vulger with what all he wanted to do to me. all i can say is people who claim to be christian arent really acting christ like. thats their problem and they need to work on it. hmmmmm maybe they are christian in name only.?????
Heeeeeyyyy, what’s the point of this?
Oh heeeeeeeeeyyyy, what’s your favorite song? Maybe we could hum along.
Well, I think you’re smart, you sweet thing. Tell me your sign. I’m dyin’ here.
Aaaaaooooooooooo, got you where I want you….yeah.
Cool points for whoever knows the song!
The sky god will provide?
CC,
If you TRUST in Him, He WILL. We must humble ourselves, one of the hardest things we can do.
Psalm 118, The Psalm of Thanksgiving;
Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good,
his mercy endures forever.
xalisae,
The “Aooooo!” rings a bell. But I think it’ll take me quite awhile to achieve coolness.
Steely Dan? Grasping at straws.
Boz Scaggs? Durn! I’m about ready to cheat and go google it.
Ooh. I took a couple of swats at it, but I had a different tune in my head. Pretty good song and band. I did not know that. Though their name is vaguely familiar.
I’ll have to score cool points some other way. :)
My God what a sad state of affairs for this poor little baby. I don’t really watch the show but from the little I have heard this lost young woman is in desperate need of help. So sad. The difficulty of single parenthood doesn’t just come from financial problems but the emotional, psychological and social stress as well. Within 2 years the children of unmarried parents typically do not have a continuing relationship with their fathers (there are rare exceptions but the rate is about 80%). Maybe having this baby will help Snooki to turn her life around, I will pray for her, her baby and her baby’s daddy (even if she is not sure who that is). I have friends and family who have wonderful testimonies of the redeeming power of God and how sometimes having a child changed their life. “For His mercy endures forever”. God loves Snooki and her baby and has a purpose and plan for them as well. “Jesus said “I came to give you LIFE, and that more abundantly.” We’re here for LIFE!! There are no throw away women, even Snooki, and no throw away babies (oops I meant blobs of tissue or fetuses for the pro-aborts oops I meant pro-choicers out there).
Sydney have a safe, healthy BIRTHday for you and your little one. I love your comment about you “may be imparting personhood to your fetus this weekend”. LOL!!!