Colmes tries to derail Stanek
Alan Colmes didn’t like my commentary about his rope-a-dope during Hannity & Colmes last week of Kristan Hawkins and Sarah Hardin of Students for Life for their undercover sting of a NC Planned Parenthood.
Sarah posed as a 15-year-old requesting birth control to sleep with her 30 something-year-old “boy”friend. PP should have reported this to authorities but didn’t.
Colmes always tries to derail interviews with adversaries one of 2 ways, by accusing them of hypocrisy or putting them on the defensive about something off-point. Cheap and intellectually void….
Colmes tried but failed to take Kristan and Sarah off-topic by questioning their choice of sting. But they were on to Colmes and kept reorienting the conversation: Multiple PPs in many states now have a well-documented video history of demonstrating intent to cover up minor rapes.
I find Colmes frankly pathetic. He knows minor girls are certainly being raped by adult sexual predators in complicit PPs around the country, but what matters? The perfectly legal investigatory techniques.
Colmes in his blog Liberaland didn’t like that I said as much. So he reached into his small bag of tricks to attempt to invalidate me.
Colmes accused me as he had repeatedly on the show during the Obama campaign of not trying to save the live aborted baby I held.
In fact, the 1st words out of Sean Hannity’s mouth when we met at the Family Research Council’s Vote Values forum a few months ago were, “I’m so sorry for the things Alan said about you,” even though they truly didn’t bother me. I know it makes no sense to intelligent people that a pro-life nurse would let a baby die she could save.
But for the record, the baby I held was too young to save – between 21 and 22 weeks. His lungs weren’t developed. Furthermore, I received him too late to resuscitate even if he were viable. There is only a 5-6 minute window to oxygenate any human being under normal conditions.
Then Colmes added a dig at liberaland’s favorite column of mine, Italian abortion mafia:
Stanek’s views include supporting domestic violence against women who inform their husbands they’ve had abortions. Writing at World Net Daily, Stanek referred to the scene in Godfather II where Michael hits Kay after she says she had an abortion as the reaction of “a real man,” unlike the “cowardly male choice” of respecting a woman’s right to choose.
Here’s that powerful scene:
Of course liberals know the point of my column but talk stupid talk to try to discredit me. But again, I know intelligent people get my point. As Liberaland commenter Susan wrote:
Oh Alan he slapped her face when he found out she killed their child by means of abortion. A face slap and death by dismemberment. Hmmmm. Let’s see who was the violent one.
I haven’t written about the Colmes post because I couldn’t figure out a way to keep him from derailing the conversation here. But I realize this morning there’s no way out. So what the heck. I’ll derail the conversation the way I want it to go.
I don’t know if I’ve mentioned I think Godfather I and II are the best movies of all time. I’m not the only one. Bobby Schindler is as into them as me. We both watch them whenever they’re on tv (which is really not logical because we could each buy the dvd set) and then email one another with the latest discovery.
The other day I emailed Bobby about one of my favorite scenes in Godfather II that always encourages me pro-lifers are eventually going to win. I can’t find it on YouTube so I’ll describe it. The scene comes after Michael has witnessed a car bombing in Havanna. Ignore the violence and focus on the paid/unpaid part of the conversation:
Michael Corleone: I saw a strange thing today. Some rebels were being arrested. One of them pulled the pin on a grenade. He took himself and the captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren’t.
Hyman Roth: What does that tell you?
Michael Corleone: It means they could win.
In other words, the rebels were in the fight for the cause, which always trumps the resolve of those in the fight for the money.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Alan is completely blind and ignorant. His responses to you are full of arrogance, deceit, and mean-spiritedness.
Blaming you for that baby’s death was insane!
Were you the one who forced that baby from his womb and was it your idea to lay them on a shelf to let him suffer and die?
No, you did what was humanly possible to ease his suffering as he died. You did what no one else would do!
Alan Colmes seems to have no soul, to say these types of things about you. He can’t even fathom how much that day must have hurt you, to see that poor helpless baby dying and breathing his last breaths in your arms. To have to witness a baby dying and be absolutely helpless to prevent it from happening had to have been so horrible. It’s amazing to me that he feels it okay to condemn you for not saving the baby, but he feels nothing towards the doctors who actually took the baby prematurely? Or the mother who chose to kill that child because it wasn’t perfect? What a hypocrite he is!!!
I’m so angry with him right now, there’s not much else I can say without being really mean.
what is really strange is that he is married to a Catholic. He is Jewish of course and their religious belief as they have told me is that until the baby is born and breaths that is when it receives a soul. But wait what about the breathing born alive babies….hmmm….doesn’t work.
He goes by talking points from the left totally and they feel that the mother has dominion over the baby and the quality of the mother’s life takes precedent over the baby’s right to exist.
Powerful post!
Jill’s point is real men hit women and two wrongs make a right.
Jill, how often does your husband hit you?
Colmes is an example of the morally dead mind of the progressives. He thinks investigators are bad and crooks are victums. This is the same from Gunatanamo to abortion. If you are not crooked, you have little to worry about.
Colmes is a sad, sad man. Instead of focusing on the fact that Planned Parenthood is covering up rapes, he attacks the messenger.
Can you imagine the outrage if they found out that a crisis pregnancy center was covering up the rape of young girls? There would be screams for every last center be closed down.
Of course, when it’s planned parenthood the media just says “lalallallalallalalalal I can’t heaaaaaaaar you”
Typical.
Duh Lauren Planned Parenthood is the one making all the money.
Jill’s point is real men hit women and two wrongs make a right.
Jill, how often does your husband hit you?
She never said it was “right”. You guys obviously will never get it.
Jess, have to call it: You display such typical willful ignorance.
Is your husband standing behind you right now Jill?
Don’t worry, I’ll save you!
And ignorance is bliss. That’s why I’m always smiling : D
Good riddance to Colmes. I won’t miss him when he’s off the show. Maybe Hannity can refrain from finding another co-host who has a face for radio and who does nothing but read the latest talking points from the DNC and/or Daily Kos.
When is Colmes leaving?
Colmes is supposedly leaving “at the end of the year”, so he should be gone within a month.
Here’s my rendition of a typical Colmes interview.
Guest: And so you see, Alan, people are actually taking puppies and kicking them for fun, it’s really quite disgusting.
Colmes:Uh huh, but guest, didn’t you in fact play scrabble with condoleezza Rice last year?
Guest: Huh?
Colmes: You heard me! How do you condemn kicking puppies when you yourself played scrabble with the secretary of state?!
Guest: I’m afraid I don’t see the connection, I mean we’re talking about kicking puppies
Colme: IRAQ! Iraq is the connection!!!!
Guest:????
In article above, the sentence:
He knows minor girls are certainly being raped by adult sexual predators in complicit PPs around the country, but what matters?
gives the impression that the rapes are occurring within the PP centers – perhaps you meant to state:
He knows that around the country minor girls are certainly being raped by adult sexual predators and PP is complicit in those crimes…
Let’s not forget Alan is also complicit in covering up those crimes.
Please don’t use Colmes as an example of the Left. We don’t want him. Let Al Frankin go toe to toe with Hannity every night and we’d have a show I could watch.
Hal, Alan Colmes, Margaret Sanger and Hot Rod Blago often comes to mind when I read the comments of the dirty liberal posters on this blog.
Good grief, Truthseeker…
Let Al Frankin go toe to toe with Hannity every night and we’d have a show I could watch.
Posted by: Hal at December 12, 2008 11:45 AM
************************************
Because he’s “good enough, smart enough, and doggone it, people like him.” :D
Sorry, I think of his character, Stuart Smalley every time Al Franken is mentioned.
Colmes is a Muslim style operator. When you ask a Muslim about what is so hot about their religion, they attack pedophile priests and anything they can target by association. Back to the question, why support abortion?…Colmes would say it was good because Christians killed more people in world War II
xppc, I don’t know about the Muslim analogy, but it sure seems that pro-aborts like to say that killing the unborn isn’t bad because there are things like war and other injustices. They don’t typically face the issue head-on, so they have to re-direct.
It’s like Jess does sometimes when she comes to this blog and talks about killing and eating animals. (Not attacking Jess here, just pointing out an example I’ve noticed.)
“Hot Rod Blago”
Sounds like a 1960’s stock car racer.
Jill said: “I find Colmes frankly pathetic.”
And now you know the reason why he has been the “token liberal” on Fox News for some time now, he really is pathetic. He makes even the left look bad, and that’s really saying something.
“Hot Rod Blago”
Nathan: Sounds like a 1960’s stock car racer.
I was thinking a 1950’s quarterback.
The culture war is a war against ignorance and insanity. Some gratefully label themselves ignorant while others repeatedly prove they are within their own moral universe through delusional denial and semantic sophistry, such as exhibited by Colmes and Obama.
No matter how irrefutable the evidence of crimes against human beings, both pre-born and born, personal denial is always sought. They escape into the darkness of their own souls, cowering from the truth. The only correct response is to have compassion and mercy upon the living victims and even upon the criminals.
In a world where loving-kindness is rare, Christ had it right – love your enemies until the day they are judged by Him. May the Lord have mercy upon them in His righteous wrath.
No matter how blind others are to the truth, we can never be blind to the injustices inflicted upon the innocent, nor stop our efforts to defend and protect them.
So it rages on.
Hehe…Doug, when you say “good grief”, you make me think of you as a very dashing Charlie Brown.
Erin, I think those shirts he wears are cool.
Hal: Not a bad idea. Better Al Franken the co-host than Al Franken the Senator.
Let’s just call the whole thing off.
Jill,
I’m honestly shocked at you. When you first described the scene I was picturing an actual slap…that I could somewhat live with because I suppose people can get angry and carried away. I cannot ever imagine a moment where physical violence is acceptable.
That was NOT a mere slap. THAT was a full on attack. He nearly tackled her and SLAMMED her across the head, and for you to say that it was courageous thing that a “real man” would do, you are sadly misinformed and I wonder about your morals.
And just to clarify, I don’t care whether or not the husband accepts or rejects the choice. I don’t think it’s “manly” to accept his wife’s choice, nor do I think it’s “manly” to reject it.
What I definitely think is cowardly and disgusting is when he uses his physical strength to harm and intimidate her when she made a choice he didn’t agree with. Yes, he can be angry (I can understand his anger at his wife having an abortion behind his back), but to resort to physical violence it NOT want a real man should do.
If a man says something in the middle of a forest, and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
Here is a scene from a movie that illustrates the point a little better.
In ‘Misery’ when James Caan has recovered enough from having his ankles broken by the wacked out women who has kidnapped him, he seizes the first opportunity she gives him and he slams her over the head with a typewriter.
I guarantee you there was no one in the movie theatre sypmathizing with the female and screaming take back the night, stop violence against women.
Nearly every person in the theatre was hoping he would hit her again.
Women can be just as mean and gnarly as men. In just so happened in this drama the assailant was a woman and the man was the victim.
If Michael C.’s wife had told him she had bashed in their childs head with a baseball bat, would anyone fault him for slapping her and giving her a shove onto the couch after she had taunted him with her violent act.
There is a proverb that says, ‘If you take a dog by the ears, do not blame the doy when you get bit.’
Of course all this drama is meant to appeal to your flesh. It is designed to roil up your emotions.
It is hard to make good decisions when your reason has been subordinated to your emotions.
ie, pretentious and presumptive president Barack Hussein 0’bama (pbuh). No person in their right mind could justify voting to give someone they do not know, the launch codes to America’s nuclear arsenal.
yor bro ken
Ken, McCain is such a hothead that plenty of people thought his hand on the button would be a real no-no.
Posted by: Doug at December 12, 2008 7:24 PM
‘Ken, McCain is such a hothead that plenty of people thought his hand on the button would be a real no-no.’
——————————————————-
Doug,
Your premise is questionable at best.
Suggest you reveiw polling data from the presidential election in question.
I will not defend McCain as a candidate or as a man. But you will have to show me where McCain’s temper or temperament was a ‘deciding’ factor in the election.
Are you telling me you would have voted for McCain if he was not the ‘angry white man’?
The 0’bamanistas voted for the ‘one’ or as I like to think of him the ‘zero’, because they believe he reflects their values.
Isn’t that why you voted for the ‘zero’? You weren’t voting against McCain, were you?
The ‘zero’ is your man, right?
You do not know his real name.
You do not know where he was birthed.
You do not know what his thoughts were in college.
You do not know his medical history.
You only know what he has told you and you choose to take him at his word.
That is naive at best.
A wise man once said, “Trust, but verify.”
Suggest you give that concept some thought.
yor bro ken
Ken, sounds to me like you go in for conspiracy theories.
I just knew a few people, my dad for one, that was concerned about McCain’s temperament.
It was widely discussed, too.
McCain’s temper may prove to be a liability – USATODAY.com
Will McCain’s Temper Be a Liability? – ABC News
McCain: A Question of Temperament – Washington Post
McCain’s temper may prove to be a liability in presidential campaign – International Herald Tribune
This is all ridiculous. Kay clearly understands that she KILLED Michael’s son. She says so! I killed him, Michael! Then she calls it unholy and evil. By her own admission she killed their baby in an unholy and evil way and all of you are upset about a slap? And yes, it was just a slap and a shove to a soft couch. For God’s sake, she’s lucky he didn’t kill her….this is a mobster we’re talking about. How far can you push a man before he acts like a man and strikes out? That’s what she was doing. Goading him. My husband would never slap me because I would never kill his child. If I did, and then threw it in his face like that, i guarantee he might snap. That’s a horrible, evil thing to do. You’re all blaming Michael for being violent, but who is the one who violently KILLED their child? And you can’t make the argument that it’s not murder because Kay says it was…that was her intention! So if her intention was to murder their son, it was indeed murder. If anything, Michael was defending his murdered son. A slap, even a hard one, was a small price to pay. The sting of that slap faded within a day, but their murdered son would never feel anything. Where is your perspective?
Jess, you are a repulsive person for attacking someone so personally like that.
Laura, you gotta know how to take Jess. Stick around….
And PERSONALLY, I agree with the point Jill and several others have made here. Although I believe men shouldn’t hit women (almost) ever, and that a real man will accept a slap to the face before he’ll attack a lady, in this scene, Kate is no longer a lady. She’s a murderer, and I would’ve slapped her too.
kbhvac makes a good point. If she had ripped off an 8 year old’s arms and legs, would you feel differently about a man slapping her?
In any case, I think I’d have to be restrained from killing her.
I don’t know if I’ve mentioned I think Godfather I and II are the best movies of all time. I’m not the only one.
Right on, Jill. They rule.
M. Fox, 9:16, excellent response.
You’re self-aggrandizing and desperate for approval. Seriously Jill. It’s kind of sad to read your blog. It’s like someone going downhill with no good taste to stop their decline into pettiness.
… yet another pathetic attempted smear by YoLa.
Can’t you find the way out of here, YoLa? Do you need help to kick the habit? Have you tried a 12 step program?
Far Left liberals have no morals anymore unless it is fictional.
1 million babies murdered a year and a fake man whines about a fake slap in a movie to distract from the truth of 1 million murders.
Bait and switch, distract, omission of sins, liars, deceivers, and ultimately accomplices to 45 million murders. A holocaust worse than the Jews, worse than Stalins purges and starvations, almost equal to Mao.
Yet the liberals fight for a slap in a movie as if straining for their own fallacy of righteous indignation. When in fact they are already on a train of total immorality and have derailed off a mile high cliff and millions have already died due to their inactions to stop the deaths day after day as more lemmings step onto the caboose.
Well put, Straining.
Straining, domestic violence is a serious problem and is always wrong. In contrast, many of us don’t believe legal abortion is wrong. There’s nothing confusing about why liberals who feel like that would denounce Jill’s support for the “slap” in the movie.
Don’t see the need for name calling. The liberals I know have pretty strong morals. Not the same as yours perhaps, but who put you in charge of morality?
It’s a curious thing, Hal. For decades the left wing’s claim to fame was their support for the underdog, the “little guy” who was being run over by corporations, politicians, etc. But now, the left has a chance to speak up for, to defend the smallest and most helpless of the underdogs, and what do they do? They pretend they don’t exist.
In fact, it is now the left that promotes the ultimate abuse of power, the killing of a class of humans that even our highest court has turned it’s back on. With that kind of hypocrisy in place, the left really has no moral authority any more. Quite ironically, they have surrendered any moral authority they ever had to the very group they have fought for so many decades, the Republican party.
Politics makes strange bedfellows, doesn’t it?