Backlash silences child-rapist Roman Polanski’s Hollywood defenders
Daughter Daena and I made it a point to stop by the Polish Embassy this spring during DC’s annual open house of embassies. She’s 50% Polish after all.
While waiting in line to get scrumptious pierogi, kielbasa, and ?ywiec beer, we perused a display of renowned Poles.
And there he was, Roman Polanski, famous film director. “But he’s a child rapist!” I exclaimed, embarrassing Daena, unaware of his past, to no end. But when a guy a few feet behind us pronounced the same indictment after spotting Polanski’s picture, I felt vindicated.
But the blind spot re: Polanski’s sordid past was evident.
Youngsters in the crowd can read the New York Times PG13-to-R-rated backstory on page 2, including grand jury testimony from the 13yo Polanski raped and sodomized.
That was in 1977. When Polanski realized he might end up in prison, he fled the country and has for 32 years not restepped foot back on US soil. However, last week when the now 76yo ventured to Switzerland to receive a film festival award, he was nabbed….
That’s where Hollywood comes in. Since then several of its liberal luminaries have signed a “Free Polanski” petition, and some have just offered support.
These include kindred spirit Woody Allen (having slept with his wife’s 21yo adopted daughter before divorcing the former and marrying the latter), Jonatham Demme, Whoopi Goldberg (“It was something else, but I don’t believe it was rape-rape.”), John Landis, Mike Nichols, Salman Rushdie, Martin Scorcese, Tilda Swinton, Diane von Furstenberg, and Debra Winger (pictured below right at a Zurich press conference stating, “[The arrest] is based on an… old case that is all but dead but for minor technicalities.”)
But now, thankfully, a backlash is building. Reported Reuters yesterday:
… Polanski… saw support weaken on Wednesday….
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told reporters in NY that Polanski’s extradition… to CA to face sentencing on the 1977 sex crime charge was a matter for judges, not diplomats, to handle….
In France, the government changed its passionate protests about Polanski’s arrest to a more measured stance and described the charges as serious….
Major US newspapers called on the Oscar winner to account for the crime, and commentators said US public opinion was running strongly against Polanski. Few in the cinema world in Hollywood and Europe stepped forward on Wednesday to join his supporters….
Polanski’s arrest first drew outrage in Europe’s diplomatic and artistic quarters….
But support in Europe and Hollywood appears to be eroding…. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk… said that while Polanski should be offered consular help, ministers need not get involved in the extradition battle.
“The case involves a great director but still, it is also a case of rape, of sex with a child,” Tusk said….
In Hollywood, influential movie mogul Harvey Weinstein’s call earlier this week for US filmmakers to lobby against Polanski’s extradition has fallen on many deaf ears.
There has been only silence from some of Polanski’s oldest friends, including actor Jack Nicholson who appeared in 1974’s Chinatown and at whose home the rape occurred [pictured left together during filming].
Actress Whoopi Goldberg provoked online fury after saying she didn’t consider the sex incident to be rape in the strict sense of the word….
Editorials in the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times said Polanski, 76, should return to account for his crime.
The newspapers dismissed arguments by The Pianist director’s supporters about his Oscar-winning body of work and the tragic 1969 murder of his pregnant wife Sharon Tate by followers of cult leader Charles Manson.
“This case has nothing to do with Mr Polanski’s work or his age. It is about an adult preying on a child. Mr Polanski pleaded guilty to that crime and must account for it,” the NYT said.
LAT entertainment reporter Patrick Goldstein wrote that his mail was now “about 100-1 against Polanski.”
A couple incredible quotes, both from the LAT…
“My personal thoughts are let the guy go,” said Peg Yorkin, founder of the Feminist Majority Foundation. “It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go. The government could spend its money on other things.”…
Weinstein… [is] not convinced public opinion is running against the filmmaker and dismisses the categorization of Hollywood as amoral. “Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Weinstein said. “We were the people who did the fundraising telethon for the victims of 9/11. We were there for the victims of Katrina and any world catastrophe.”
New York Times story…
The following excerpts are from a transcript of the March 1977 grand jury proceedings that led to Roman Polanski’s indictment on charges of furnishing a controlled substance to a minor, lewd or lascivious act on a child under 14, unlawful sexual intercourse with a female under the age of 18, rape by use of drugs, perversion (now called oral copulation) and sodomy.
Polanski later pleaded guilty to one count of unlawful sexual intercourse; prosecutors dropped the other charges.
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On March 10, 1977, Polanski picked up the 13-year-old victim at her house and took her to Jack Nicholson’s home for a modeling shoot. The victim testified that Polanski served her champagne and gave her part of a Quaalude before getting in a whirlpool bath with her while they were naked. No one else was home.
Q: What happened then?
A: He goes, ‘Come down here.’ And I said, ‘No. No, I got to get out.’ And he goes, ‘No, come down here.’ And then I said that I had asthma and that I couldn’t – I had to get out because of the warm air and the cold air or something like that. And he said, ‘Just come down here for a second.’ So I finally went down. And then he went – there was a lot of Whirlpool bath jets. He goes, ‘Doesn’t it feel better down here?’ And he was like holding me up because it is almost over my head. And I went, ‘Yeah, but I better get out.’ So I got out.
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The victim testified that after she left the whirlpool bath, Polanski told her to go into a nearby bedroom and lie down.
A: I was going, ‘No, I think I better go home,’ because I was afraid. So I just went and I sat down on the couch.
Q: What were you afraid of?
A: Him.
(a few minutes later)
A: He sat down beside me and asked me if I was OK.
Q: What did you say, if anything?
A: I said, ‘No.’
Q: What did he say?
A: He goes, ‘Well, you’ll be better.’ And I go, ‘No, I won’t. I have to go home.’
Q: What happened then?
A: He reached over and he kissed me. And I was telling him, ‘No,’ you know, ‘Keep away.’
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After Polanski kissed her, the victim alleged, he began to engage in oral sex.
A: … I was ready to cry. I was kind of – I was going, ‘No. Come on. Stop it.’ But I was afraid.
Q: And what did he say, if anything?
A: He wasn’t saying anything that I can remember. He was – sometimes he was saying stuff, but I was just blocking him out, you know.
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The victim testified that Polanski began having sex with her, but sodomized her when he learned she wasn’t using birth control.
A: He asked, he goes, ‘Are you on the pill?’ And I went, ‘No.’ And he goes, ‘When did you last have your period?’ And I said, I don’t know. A week or two. I’m not sure.’
Q: And what did he say?
A: He goes, ‘Come on. You have to remember.’ And I told him I didn’t.
Q: Did he say anything after that?
A: Yes. He goes, ‘Would you want me to go through your back? And I went, ‘No.’
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The victim testified that after the sex, she got dressed and waited in the car for Polanski to drive her home. Before driving her home, he asked her to keep the incident a secret.
A: He said to me, he goes, ‘Oh, don’t tell your mother about this.’…
Q: What did you say?
A: I wasn’t saying anything. He says, ‘Don’t tell your mother about this and don’t tell your boyfriend either.’… He said something like, ‘This is our secret.’ And I went, ‘Yeah.’ And then later he said, ‘You know, when I first met you I promised myself I wouldn’t do anything like this with you.’
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Will Hollywood have the same leniency if he was a Roman Catholic Priest that fled the country after raping a child?
I’ve ranted about Hollywood people excusing child rape on other places on the Internet and don’t have the energy to do it again, so I’ll just point out that Mia Farrow and Woody Allen were never married. Not that that negates the point, of course…
I hope he gets a 350 cell mate named Bubba.
This was not some minor misunderstanding. He raped and drugged a thirteen-year-old girl.
And I’m heartbroken that Whoopi Goldberg would say, “It’s not rape-rape.”
What the hell is rape-rape?
Better get beat up for it to count?
He’s avoided justice for thirty years- no, he needs to get back to the U.S. and face his penalty.
I can’t f-ing believe you, Feminist Majority Foundation for, “Let him go free!”
I can’t see straight I’m so furious by the sudden burst of defense for this crime and suddenly my heart is broken for every young woman who is raped and wants to report it, only to hear, “Let it go.”
Whoopi Goldberg is a disgrace and puts children in danger by excusing a pedophile’s rape of a 13 year old child.
Your company’s image is at grave risk with her as a spokesperson.
As a grandmother of 8, I will be watching closely to see whether you dismiss her involvement with Toys r Us.
Our children deserve role models who will passionately protect them in every way, from the beginning of their biological development.
Whoopi must go!
Grammy Leslie Hanks
Probably converse of your implication was intended, Vivian.
The point is that the lefties have been using the rare cases of clergy having sex with minors to make money, or to justify their own malfeasance.
The very same people will defend Roman Polanski.
As for leniency, you are confused. That would come from not understanding how the sacrament of reconciliation works. The church could not bust its own offenders to law enforcement if confession occurred. Google confidentiality and the sacrament of reconciliation to learn why this is so. In addition, the bad advice of the APA fed a notion that sex perverts could be rehabilitated.
Interestingly, until there was money to be made, few victims or parents wished to press charges against the pedophiles.
The only way to bring the actual perverts to justice is for the victims (or state, when only a corpse remains) to press criminal charges.
It seems that the proper charges were pressed against Roman Polanski, but he dodged the law. The leftists wish to protect Polanski from the law. No such leniency or attempt to protect priests from legal charges due to pedophilia was exerted by the Church itself.
Adherent Catholics understand that, for a constellation of political and moral reasons, the USCCB (U.S. Cath. Bishops) requires further flushing, (same as the U.S. government), and this process has been in motion since long before the lawyers began to seriously shake the Church’s money tree, harvesting from the pedophilia cases.
I ceased contributions to the USCCB, and stayed away from the movie theaters. Will there be any others who will alter their personal habits in order to cut off funding to people who are obviously doing the wrong thing?
Hmmmm….Maybe we should ask one of the poor boys who was abused by a priest who the church knew was a pedophile how he feels about the sacrament of reconciliation.
I challenge your use of the word “rare”, by the way.
Do you really want to dredge this up?
I think the bats flying around in Whoopie’s head have finally started sipping Kool-Aid.
Woody Allen is trying to publicly defend Roman Polanski. I think this is logical and sensible. Woody likes incest with his adopted daughter. Now, if we can get Whoopi Goldberg to come out of whatever closet perversion she has for children, we can keep this all out in the open for the world to see. Pedophiles & sexual abusers stick together & network–that’s why there’s so many in Hollywood. They cover for each other. Thank you, Whoopi, for outing yourself for us!!!
On top of all that, he basically got a slap on the wrist for it but was too much of a pussy to serve his time.
No sympathy whatsoever for this massive douchebag. REAL feminists should be (and many are) outraged at the treatment this guy has had. Giving a 13 year old girl alcohol and quaaludes and then raping her every orafice is something that should land someone serious jailtime and public shaming, not a statutory rape charge and a settlement out of court.
I am saddened as the next person that the maker of such beautiful films is an a**hole, but tough titties. He deserves the worst the law can give him.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Sexual predators should be strung upsidedown until they rot, and I don’t mean by their feet.
Progressive/liberal humanist strategy for dealing with ‘inconvienent truths’:
This was not ‘rape, rape’ this was sex between two consenting people.
So what if the wench said ‘no’. Her actions said something else. She was a groupy who wanted to play with the big boys.
He was/is Roman Pole-lance-ski after all.
The little tramp should be grateful mr. Polanski took an interest in her. It was her only hope for success. She had no real talent.
It is her parents fault for not raising her right.
You people are dwelling in the past.
Come on join us in the 21st century.
Your Victorian values are pasé.
You can’t hold a man to 18th century morés in the 2009.
Quit looking back and start living in today.
yor bro ken
Sure, Vivian, dredge it up. It’ll be good sport to induce a hypertensive emergency in one more media-fed, Catholic-hater.
For one, your appeal to the feelings of a hypothetical victim holds no validity. Feelings and emotions tend to impede, rather than drive a correct moral decision.
You might like to start by giving the stats, (that you’ve not researched any better than you researched the sacrament of reconciliation) of substantiated offenders over the last 50 years, juxtaposed against the total number of clergy and Catholics in the U.S.. Then you will learn what “rare” is.
Since you were too lazy to research the sacrament of reconciliation…… there is absolute confidentiality. So it is expected for a priest to go to jail or die, rather than repeat what has been said during that sacrament by the penitent. The rules don’t change due to your feelings on the matter of a particular sin. All the abortions confessed, as well as other murders are treated with the same level of confidentiality as the various sexual abuses.
The church is not the arm of law enforcement. The sacrament of reconciliation is outside of that purview entirely. This fact remains despite all the hate and bluster you can muster.
I don’t think that it’s necessarily fair to say that about Whoopie Goldberg, but I know that I can’t be the only person stunned that she said that. “Rape-rape?” What on earth is rape-rape?
I agree with you, Pip. I’m sorry that he’s had a tough life, but those girl’s life was destroyed. No way should he get away with a slap on the wrist. He’s faced problems, but he lived in affluence all over Europe and faced not a single outcry from Hollywood.
I’m sorry about the murder of his wife- that’s horrific, but there was a young girl whose life was forever changed. That can’t go without justice.
That’s terrible! I can honestly say I never even heard about this…and I’ve always been such a huuuuuge fan of Roman Polanski. I still love his movies, this doens’t change that, but I had no idea he had raped a girl. What a mind-screw. He most _definitely_ should have served his time.
Man, what a downer.
This creepy old man should be brought back to the US and thrown in jail for 25 years.(They should throw away the key and yes lets put him in with some guy named Bubba!)
The problem with North America is that we simply don’t punish men for rape in a serious enough manner anymore.
I recently read that Middle Eastern cultures had a great deal of respect for Western culture because rapists were hung at one time (and yes Mary by their necks) for the crime.
The penalty for rape has been gradually lessening for decades now.
We do not need a precedent for the law by exonerating Polanski. He’s a pedophile. Period. He should be treated as one.
I wonder how many other young girls he’s raped because he essentially got away with this one.
I’m not at all surprised by Whoopi Golberg’s response. She’s a RAGING LIBERAL. Have none of you ever seen The HBO special she did about 20 years ago (or so) where she was on stage ‘playing’ a 13 year old girl who was describing (in great detail) how to do a ‘coat hanger abortion’ on yourself? It was ‘Whoopi Golberg On Broadway’ , I believe. The sitcom she had a few years ago was also canceled , mainly (I think) because it eventually stopped being a sitcom, and was becoming her own ‘political soapbox’, where she ranted and raved about Conservatives, Republicans, and Pro-Life Christians. I stopped watching when she started that, and was glad when I heard it was canceled shortly after, anyway.
Hi angel,
I wasn’t talking about by their necks though I would settle for that!
We do not take the crime of sexual assault at all seriously in our culture. That’s why we have situations such as the abduction of Jaycee Dugard and the little girls murdered in Florida.
Hi Pamela,
Its amazed me these Hollywood liberals, Whoopi included, who have claimed to have had illegal and “coat hanger” abortions, yet they’re alive and well to talk about it today.
They must have been highly skilled at inserting coat hangers in themselves or were extremely lucky to find such highly skilled “back alley abortionists”.
vivian,
I think keeping a sex offender like Garrido locked up would have prevented her abduction. He was in prison for rape, which our society does not take very seriously, and had been released early. Supposedly he was “supervised”. Right.
Also, we now have DNA testing, which hopefully will decrease the likelihood of an innocent person being convicted or executed.
“My personal thoughts are let the guy go,” said Peg Yorkin, founder of the Feminist Majority Foundation. “It’s bad a person was raped. But that was so many years ago. The guy has been through so much in his life. It’s crazy to arrest him now. Let it go. The government could spend its money on other things.”…
This woman calls herself a feminist, and says this?
Sure Roman Polanski has been through terrible things in his life. Surviving the holocaust, loosing his mother to the gas chambers, and then the horrific murder of his wife and unborn baby. That is far more than anyone should have to endure.
However, that doesnt mean he gets a pass for this. The above mentioned tragedies he was a victim but he chose to rape that girl all those years ago. Not only that, but he fled rather than face the consequences, so he’s committed two serious crimes.
Hi Joanne,
Gee, it didn’t matter that Anita Hill didn’t come forward until 11 years after Clarence Thomas is alleged to have talked dirty to her. The feminists went ballistic.
Talk about a double standard.
Hey, what if Clarence Thomas had been accused of raping a 13y/o girl 30 years prior to his nomination to the Supreme Court? The reaction of feminists would have been…..what?
Hi vivian,
In the early 20th century my grandfather was falsely accused of rape by his stepdaughter and killed himself because of the disgrace. There were no blood tests or DNA testing to prove he was not the father of her unborn baby. For years afterward, until his stepdaughter admitted the truth, his children, my father included, would believe their father was a child rapist.
Like you, I never want to see any innocent person pay the price for a sexual assault they did not commit.
The death penalty may not be a deterrent, but it will certainly guarantee this person will never rape again! I read the account of a child rapist who was electrocuted and because of a malfunction, it took a few minutes longer for the rapist to die. I hope he suffered as horribly as his victim.
Vivian,
I too am against the death penalty. So the rest of the arguments, I don’t have much to say.
But rape is rape is rape. No 13 yr old girl can consent to doing such things, whether she said ‘no’ or not (to my knowledge, she has maintained since the beginning that she has said no). So no, when it comes to a case like this, it’s rape. rape-rape. Whatever that means.
Mary, sorry but I think you misread my post. I said Whoopi was playing a CHARACTER ( a 13 year-old girl) who performed a ‘coat-hanger abortion’ on herself. I didn’t say that Whoopi HERSELF had done it. Sorry if you misunderstood me :)
Vivian,
I wouldn’t consider 15 yr olds and 13 yr olds statutory rape in the same sense as 13 and 43 year olds.
It’s not just “older man” and “younger girl.” Hypothetically, if a girl thinks her sex with a 43 yo is consensual it is likely because she has been maniuplated by this predator to think as such. That is what predators and rapists do. They make the victim feel complicit in the act when they do not have the mental (and often not physical) capabilities to consent or understand what is going on. So whether a girl said “yes” to a 43 year old man or not, it’s rape-rape.
If it’s worth anything to ya’ll, over at Feministing they are having a hard time with this news too.
http://www.feministing.com/archives/018080.html#comments
So the rumor flying around in Europe is that Switzerland had Polanski arrested in the wake of the embarrassing revelation that UBS is the custodian for the personal bank accounts of the Gaddafi family. In other words, this arrest was made to deflect attention away from the face that yet another dictator has been revealed as a customer to the neutral bank center of the world’s evil-doers.
I think that helps explain why dozens of law abiding, rational artists signed the petition. They are not condoning Polanski’s actions so much as condemning the ridiculous and transparent actions by the Swiss. When the French an other Western European nations are upset with the Swiss, the game has changed.
Vannah: “I agree with you, Pip. I’m sorry that he’s had a tough life, but those girl’s life was destroyed.”
Loads of people have had rough lives. Plenty of people fled the Nazis, or lost a loved one to a murderer, or perhaps both. Few of them went on to rape a 13-year-old.
Angel: “This creepy old man should be brought back to the US and thrown in jail for 25 years.(They should throw away the key and yes lets put him in with some guy named Bubba!) The problem with North America is that we simply don’t punish men for rape in a serious enough manner anymore.”
I don’t know. Many men are currently in jail for rapes they did not commit. How many times have we heard or read about DNA freeing someone who had spent seven or fifteen or twenty-six years of his/her life for a crime (s)he did not commit? I go to other message boards on which they find news items every week about someone who lodged a false rape accusation, ruining someone’s reputation and endangering their lives (since someone might attempt to kill them while they await trial).
That doesn’t appear to be what happened in this case, though.
Vivian: “A 15 year old boy having ‘consensual’ sex with a 13 year old girl is also statutory rape and it’s wrong.”
Actually, if BOTH parties are underage, one could argue that they are BOTH guilty of statutory rape. Same as when two “consenting” adults are both intoxicated at the time of the “deed.”
It just didn’t stop with her, and he was quite open about his sexual attraction for little girls.
Polanski:
“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… f—ing, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!”
“I don’t see why I should be punished for my taste for very young girls…”
pip. 12:20am
What a class act. Sharon Tate must be rolling over in her grave.
Pamela,
I heard that both Whoopi Goldberg and Margo Kidder claimed they in fact induced abortions in themselves as teenagers. How true this is is anyone’s guess.
As far as I know those quotes are real, coming out of European interviews with the guy…
Posted by: Maria at October 1, 2009 1:14 PM
Wow! What a great comment. I would love to hear their answer.
I challenge your use of the word “rare”, by the way.
Do you really want to dredge this up?
Posted by: vivian at October 1, 2009 5:50 PM
I do not want to dredge anything up but I would like to set you straight. According to all the studies I have read on the matter 1.7% of Catholic priest were molesters. But 10% of Protestant ministers have been convicted of pedophilia.
Bad it happens at all? Of course. But let us not pretend its only Catholic priests.
Posted by: vivian at October 2, 2009 8:17 AM
The point of posting them was to show you that, comparatively, Catholic priest molesters are rare. I am not defending them, as I stated in my comment it is bad regardless, so I do not know where you are coming up with your….this isn’t so bad….comment.
Pharmer is correct, you need to learn what rare means, and I was just helping you out. It really has nothing to do with Polanski – who I think is a scumbag.
“Since you were too lazy to research the sacrament of reconciliation…… there is absolute confidentiality.”
Right. In fact, breaking the seal of the confessional for the priest is one of the few cases that incurs an automatic excommunication (latae sententiae) from the Church. I think in this case, the only way to lift the excommunication is through the Pope himself. Even those who are excommunicated for abortion can be reconciled with the Church through the priest. Not so for a priest who breaks the seal.
Seriously, PIP??
He said that? A serial pedophile. Justice for the young girls he has hurt!!
Of course Whoopi Goldberg doesn’t care about the innocence of a 13 year old child. She has proudly admitted when SHE was 13 she was already pregnant and shoving a coat hangar into her uterus to abort. Whoopi is probably just a little jaded from the kind of life she has led.
Carla, we don’t know that he said that. Careful.
Posted by: vivian at October 2, 2009 9:06 AM
Yes he did. 1979. In an interview that was later included in a book. Not that you will believe it but whatever….
And about the other comment, it is comparatively rare compared to other religions. Compared to the general population it is even rarer. I am just stating facts, it is immaterial if you agree with them or not.
Oops, I think that I got my grammar wrong in the last comment. *Sigh*
As far as the quotes are concerned, Polanski needs to fry in court.
What a scumbag. Everybody likes young girls? Sicko.
Hi Sydney M,
She proudly admits? I thought illegal abortion was so horribly traumatic. She must have been quite skilled with the coathanger, considering she was only 13y/o. She’s alive and well today to talk about and had a child. Amazing.
If she had complications, did she ever present the medical evidence?
I seriously wonder about some of these “illegal abortion” stories.
Whoopi Goldberg has proudly said she’s had like 8 abortions. I boycott her movies now.
What movies? lol
I did like Ghost, but only for the late Patrick Swayze.
Ever notice how loud and bitter Whoopi and Rosie O’ Donnell are getting? I used to watch Rosie when she was just starting out as a comedienne. Now she is just TOO MUCH for me.
Guess I never knew Whoopi has claimed to have had 8 abortions either. She should maybe get that Abortion Pride Movement going.
Carla,
You’re so right about Rosie, she used to be a hoot. I remember her in bit parts as the new maid with an attitude and the florist on Valentine’s Day on my old soap opera. She was hilarious.
The woman was such an entertainer.
I have publicly spoken about what I think of Polanski’s actions IN Poland…and it has not made me always popular. It is ridiculous to say *this happened SO long ago…” yeah, well so did WWII! And Whoopi? WHO cares what she thinks or says? Have you read her autobiography. It still makes me sick, she IS sick…I had liked her until reading her own words about her own life.
I LOVED Rosie in Sleepless in Seattle. :)
W.C. Fields once infamously stated that he would rather have two women at 21 than one woman at 45.
Roman Polanski would rather have four girls at 13 than one woman at 52.
I have more disdain for Polanski’s apologists and defenders than I do for him.
One has to wonder what they would be saying if the 13 old girl who had been plied with alcohol, drugged with barbituates and forcibly raped was their daughter.
I employed the word ‘wonder’ deliberately, because I am sure some of these ‘post modernists eltitest’ would not find anything wrong with Polanski’s brutal attack of their own daughter.
Children have become disposable fashion accessories to these clueless clowns.
yor bro ken
I’m still convinced that Whoopi doesn’t bat an eye at adults having sex with minors. She has said some bizarre & disturbing things in interviews & on The View, more often than I can stand. She minimizes abortion, & normalizes sex among very young teenagers, & even young teens & adults having sexual attraction to each other. Her attitude has been sliding down a continuum for years–into the toilet. “It wasn’t actually rape-rape” fits right into her evolution towards total pagan sexuality. The fleshpots of the ancient pre-Christian world are part of her Paradise Lost!