According to the Associated Press:
Republican presidential candidate John McCain decided on a running mate early Thursday, and one top prospect, MN Gov. Tim Pawlenty, abruptly canceled numerous public appearances.
The AZ senator will appear with his No. 2 at an OH rally on Friday, aides said, though they provided no details on who McCain had picked.
This would be good, very good.
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Pawlenty is a good pick, but if you want to win the election, McCain has to pick Mitt Romney.
Let’s see what Pawlenty has to bring to the table.
For starters, he’s a good-looking younger guy. Pro-life. Governor. What else?
Pawlenty is a Governor. He has executive experience, something that Obama lacks even with Biden.
Rae’s from Minnesota, so that’s pretty cool.
Okay, I have one problem with this.
I have NO idea who Pawlenty is, what he stands for, or anything at all. Zip.
Does the American public know who he is, and does the Republican party have time to basically “introduce” this guy before the election?
I feel pretty lukewarm about it at this point. :-/
Help? Links, anyone, to what this guy stands for? I can’t find much on google, just references to him possibly being McCain’s VP pick and his haircut-which doesn’t tell me much.
I did say it was a mistake for Obama to pick another Senator.
I’m with Kel. Who is this guy? If he has quietly done a fab job as Gov in Minnesota, he could be really good for McCain’s credibility. But can they sell him?
Cor Blimey, not even a bleedin’ hat tip…
Tim Pawlenty is who I think McCain is going to pick.
He’s canceled a bunch of appearances in the near future.
Posted by: Doug at August 28, 2008 6:19 PM
His smile looks like Phil Helmuth, pro poker player.
I think a younger man is a good choice for McCain. Other than that I guess I will wait to find out more about him….
It was between Pawlenty and a loaf of white bread….Pawlenty is older..so he beat out the bread.
Kind of a cross between Mike Huckabee and Mike Huckabee’s accountant.
He has consistently attended the March for Life each year in Minnesota.And he shoots hockey pucks into the fireplace at the Govenor’s mansion.
The important thing is that Pawlenty is Pro-Life, everything else about him means nothing to me. We can rally around this person!
Deacon John,
Glad to see another Pro-lifer! I checked out your blog and linked to it on another thread here at Jill’s. (The story today about Joseph Lieberman.)
“The important thing is that Pawlenty is Pro-Life, everything else about him means nothing to me”
I don’t think that is a healthy way to look at him..
“The important thing is that Pawlenty is Pro-Life, everything else about him means nothing to me”
I don’t think that is a healthy way to look at him..
Pawlenty himself said McCain won’t pick a pro-abortion VP (see http://www.lifenews.com/nat4225.html) which leaves him as one of the few on the shortlist that isn’t for abortion. And he knows it would cost McCain dearly (10 pts in recent poll – http://www.lifenews.com/nat4230.html) if he did.
“The important thing is that Pawlenty is Pro-Life, everything else about him means nothing to me”
I don’t think that is a healthy way to look at him..
Posted by: pip at August 28, 2008 11:14 PM
Being pro-life does bode well for a persons characterin general. They are usually responsible people who care about the most vulnerable in our society.
Yawn.
Unlike radical pro-aborts like Obama who only worry about relieving the “burden” that these most vulnerable bring to their mother’s and society as a whole. He says he is about reducing abortion but his radical legal at all costs and for any reason abortion on demand policies actually encourage an increase in the number of abortions. How can he not see that?
Duhh!
Yawn.
Posted by: Bender at August 28, 2008 11:35 PM
Bender, the murder of the unborn doesn’t mean much to then? How radical do you go with your lack of concern. As far as Omama does. Is it o.k. to kill a baby that gets delievered alive because of a botched saline abortion?
“Truthseeker”, you wrote: “Being pro-life does bode well for a persons characterin general. They are usually responsible people who care about the most vulnerable in our society.”
Yeah, like the pedophile priests. Newt Gingrich. Senator Larry Craig. Senator Vitter. Senator Stevens. GWBush. Karl Rove. Ted Haggard. Ralph Reed. Dick Cheney. John Burt.
“Being pro-life does bode well for a persons characterin general. They are usually responsible people who care about the most vulnerable in our society.”
Being pro-life does not automatically make one qualified to be VP or president. I’d say there is a bit more to it than that.
SOMG, I thought for sure one of you pro-aborts would respond with the Army of God. lol The point I was making is that almost all pro-life people hold their view because a part f their character is respect for the sanctity of life. Unfortunately, even if genuine, it cannot cure a person of all their sins or weaknesses of the flesh. In general though, they don’t look at the vulnerable as being a burden that should be killed and removed from society.
Being pro-life does not automatically make one qualified to be VP or president. I’d say there is a bit more to it than that.
Posted by: prettyinpink at August 28, 2008 11:43 PM
There is more to it than that, but when you are radical as Obama and try to hide and lie about your reasons for your past radical votes and positions like the Illinois Born Alive Infant Act, it disqualifies you completely.
Ts,
I’m not even talking about Obama. Stick to the topic. He had said all he needed to know about this guy was that he was pro-life. I’m just saying that the fact that someone is “pro-life” is not necessarily the only qualifier for a major leadership position or else we have 50% of the population that is equally qualified.
pip,
I agree that it is not the ONLY thing you need to know a person in a major leadership position. But it is something to rally around, and I think it would help McCain tremendously if he did. In fact, I think he will lose the election if he does not. And that I think is part of what the Deacon was saying.
You guys have to check this video out. Democrat voters/supporters are signing a petition to give terrorists at Gitmo Cable tv, netflix, msnbc and Jihad Olympics, etc.
It’s a riot:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/28/hot-air-tv-at-the-dnc-our-man-in-orange/
Ts,
rallying behind someone who you don’t know anything about, based on a single position, is unwise. Again it’s like saying if McCain picked any random pro-lifer in the U.S. and everyone just “rallied behind him” b/c he’s pro-life, rather than pro-life AND a proven leader. Yeah. That’s a big difference. I was just telling the Deacon that in my view the healthy way to rally behind someone is to know who they are, for one.
I’d say first, make sure the guy isn’t a complete buffoon. Then talk issues from there. Going to bed- gnight.
“Truthseeker”, you wrote: “Being pro-life does bode well for a persons characterin general. They are usually responsible people who care about the most vulnerable in our society.”
Somg: “Yeah, like the pedophile priests. Newt Gingrich. Senator Larry Craig. Senator Vitter. Senator Stevens. GWBush. Karl Rove. Ted Haggard. Ralph Reed. Dick Cheney. John Burt. ”
He didnt mention those people. He said “in general,” which I am sure you know means 50% plus 1. That allows for 50% – 1 to be awful bad people. I would say that its nowhere near the 50%-1 mark even.
gnight pip
More fun with the Moonbats:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/25/hot-air-tv-at-the-dnc-marxists-unite/
Tim Pawlenty would be a homerun for the Republicans. He probably won’t get it….but I would surely love to see it.
SoMG:
That’s quite a list you compiled. Let’s look at the opposite list of people who couldn’t care less about human life: Um, HITLER, MUSSOLINI, STALIN, MILOSEVIC… Can you even compare the consequences of their actions on humanity?
Do not forget that the Nazi party was elected to power and then started to quietly exterminate the “burdens on society.” German citizens were at first appalled to discover their government was euthanizing the mentally handicapped, but that was the first step to the horrors of the Holocaust. Either you protect ALL human life or none of it is safe.
Obama quoted Hebrews 10:23.
He should keep reading “If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26-27.
Does he not fear the judgement of the Holy Spirit which will consume him in fire for his hand in the death and dismembering of God’s children?
PIP:
Not being pro-life is an automatic disqualifier.
McCain will pick Mike Huckabee because he will insure the evangelical vote.
Pawlenty is an unknown, Romney is Mormon (not that I think it’s a disqualifer, I just think it doesn’t help McCain)
Obama’s speech was like listening to a jackass talk to himself with 85,000 jackassess talking back.
I counted about 400 lies in his speech. Want an example? The average unemployement rate has been lower under GWB’s adminstration than Bill Clinton’s and unless he didnt’ recently check the Wall Street Journal, the GDP for the quarter was 3.3%.
Let’s see, according to Obama, no one will have to work, free health care, days off, no more wars because when he appears all will be at peace, and the only brothers we won’t have to keep are the unborn ones (46% of them), and we can also forget about the least of these because one isn’t least until Obama’s pay grade is higher after he’s elected.
Oh, and this jem. Let’s reduce the number of abortions by passing a Abortion Right’s Act. Well is that before or after we inflate our tires?
Obama is good at one thing, and one thing only, and it’s not telling the truth.
If this wasn’t a serious time in our country, I would have thought I was watching a scripted SNL skit. I almost couldn’t contain my laughter in between my tears.
Of course he does not fear. To him it is all just a mockery as he lives according to his own benefit, not to the benefit of a holy God. He is a sociopathic liar and very dangerous.
I agree that Tim Pawlenty would be a home run. For this election and for the future of the Republican party.
HisMan,
Read Pawlenty’s bio on the web. What’s to not like?
Bro:
I didn’t say I didn’t like Pawlenty….I do bro.
I just don’t think Pawlenty as being able to help McCain because he’s an unknown…60 days before the election is not time to spend a lot of time justifying your VP decision.
Huckabee is the man.
Look, Obama picked Biden because Biden bolsters Obama’s inexperience. The ploy won’t work.
McCain is a known entity. He’s been a Senator for 25 years. McCain is a more secure choice and Obama represents too much of a risk. You’ll see.
Here’s the really amazing thing. All those Democrats, the Party, the millions spent, was money made during the “terrible” Bush Adminstration. You’d think by Obama’s speech, the country was on the brink of a depression. This too. A lot of those Democrats look like they’ve been eating pretty well for the last eight years.
Finally. What’s the Democratically controlled Congress approval rating at? 95, the lowest in history. I’d say the Democrats shouldn’t be linked with themselves. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Hisman,
Did you notice that every time Obama tried to justify his 180 million dollar plan to “change” America, he used people from the depression era to back his view. I kept thinking “Where was the government then?”
My grandparents came over from Ireland and worked their butts off. He talks about his grandmother giving up so much so that he could have an education. THAT is the American dream. THAT is the American way. The government didn’t pay for Obamas education. The government didn’t pay for his grandmothers home. Or anyone elses. The government didn’t give his grandmother/mother insurance…
We are the land of “Opportunity” NOT the land of guarantees! WHY should everyone be guaranteed a college education? Why should everyone be guaranteed a HOUSE? How many of our ancestors had a house just cuz they wanted one?
Utopia is nice…but it’s fantasy!
I will vote for anyone who is prolife. After I check their voting record.
***ALASKA GOV. SARAH PALIN GIVES BIRTH TO DOWN BABY DESPITE ABORTION PRESSURE***
Juneau, AK (LifeNews.com) — As many as 80 percent of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome become victims of abortion, but Alaska Gov, Sarah Palin didn’t let her child become a statistic. Palin, who has deeply-felt pro-life views, gave birth to her fifth child this week and the baby was diagnosed with the condition.
On Tuesday, Palin confirmed her baby, named Trig Paxson, has Down syndrome.
“Trig is beautiful and already adored by us,” Palin said in a statement LifeNews.com obtained.
“We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives,” she said.
‘We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed,” the 44 year-old governor added.
MORE…
http://lifenews.com/state3150.html
Mike
Sarah Palin would be a great pick for VP!
Sarah Palin may also be McCain’s VP choice. According to Yahoo, Pawlenty inferred he won’t be the choice (I’ll be at the State Fair), and Palin may have flown into Ohio in the last 24 hours.
Palin is pro-life, and seems to have a pretty solid record. If Palin is the choice, how many undecided Hillary backers will support McCain? I think a lesser known woman VP candidate will get much more air time and public awareness than an lesser known man like Pawlenty.
according to WikiPedia, Tim Pawlenty IS an Evangelical Christian.
I’d rather have Sam Brownback. He would have gotten my vote for President. And Duncan Hunter as his running mate.
When I googled his name, though, it said “He’s going to state fair, not a McCain rally.”
Sarah Palin would be a good choice, too. Strong Pro Life AND Mother.
a prolife woman as VP running mate would be very good.
But she’d better be a lion because the rabid feminists will eat her up otherwise….
“Not being pro-life is an automatic disqualifier.”
That wasn’t my point at all. You are changing the subject. Carla got it right- she wants to check the guy’s record first. Good idea.
It sounds like he might have picked Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska! WOW!
Not only isn’t the age thing a problem anymore, but if God forbid something happened to him, we’d have a PRO-LIFE WOMAN for president…irony of ironies.
When 40DaysForLife starts, if SHE is the pick, I will be praying even more fervently for them to win.
Pip,
You might like Palin, too. She’s a member of Feminists for Life. She is a strong supporter of contraception, which is disappointing from a Catholic perspective, but is fairly common, even in the pro-life community.
If Palin’s the choice, I might just have to get a McCain/Palin bumpersticker.
Interesting that eyes are turning now to Palin.
Her life story certainly would be a stark contrast to Obama’s voting against BAIPA. She is the mother of a little boy with DS.
I can see it now, even though she wouldn’t debate him……but if she DID:
Senator Obama, my youngest son has Downs. Do Downs babies deserve to die by abortion because they are different?
Obama: No, I wouldn’t raise taxes. Wait, what was the question again?
And the mother of a Down’s Syndrome baby.
Do you understand the implications of that? A DOWN’S SYNDROME BABY!
A baby that, if Obama had his way, should have come out “limp and dead” if the mommy and doctor originally intended that to happen.
This is sweet, just too sweet.
I emailed the McCain campaign yesterday saying that I would be okay with a woman VP so long as she was pro-life.
I am cautiously optimistic that they listened
to Carder after all.
Humbly yours,
Little Ole Carder
Hmmm… this was interesting. If this is true McCain made an excellent choice.
http://www.mccainpalin.com/
If McCain chooses Sara Palin, I will be so thrilled. I will donate even more $$ to the campaign if he chooses her.
I’m glued to Fox News right now….
Testing
Pawlenty says he’s not the choice. Palin flew into Cincy last night accompanied by a couple of teenagers. She’s great! Gutsy! Someone who was dead on re: Biden had early discovered a flight plan from Alaska to Ohio – reported on FOX.
Not only is Palin pro life, but unlike Obamessiah, she’s a REAL reformer. She also has some executive experience, which McCain lacks. I’ve been thinking I would have to hold my nose and vote McCain, but Palin would be a breath of fresh air, no nose holding required. :-) Wow. Republicans could be the genuine “Hope and Change” party!
Oooh…Palin…love her already!! :) Oh and I love her boy with DS too!
“From a Catholic point of view the only downside to Palin is she’s Pro-Contraception.”
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Still I would be thrilled if she is picked for VP. At least we’d be making Pro-Life strides in government.
If she’s the pick, we need to send her copies of Humanae Vitae, Christopher West’s books on “Theology of the Body” and Janet Smith’s cd on “Contraception Why Not”. Last, get her in a room with Human Life International Fr. Tom Eutenhauer.
I think we could change Sarah Palin’s mind on contraception.
Mike
Not only isn’t the age thing a problem anymore, but if God forbid something happened to him, we’d have a PRO-LIFE WOMAN for president…irony of ironies.
Posted by: mk at August 29, 2008 8:25 AM
wouldn’t that just be too funny. Whatever would Kate Michelman, Nancy Pelosi,Nancy Keenan etc do?
I love the Naral website which quotes Nancy:
“Tonight, we invite Americans who share our values
“If she’s the pick, we need to … get her in a room with Human Life International Fr. Tom Eutenhauer.”
I like the way you think, Mike! That man is SUCH a defender of life.
“This would be good, very good. Pawlenty’s my pick.”
Too bad his campaign officially announced its NOT him.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/mccain.vp/index.html
I love Governor Pawlenty, but Sarah Palin would be a home run. I am too excited for words!!
FOX NEWS REPORTS…
It’s SARAH PALIN!!!
THANK YOU GOD!
Mike
I think Palin would be an excellent choice as well.
Sarah is still in Alaska to watch fireworks…
The pick could be Mitt…Jesus will reign from Missouri part time Mitt!
WOOHOO! PALIN FOR VP!!! McCain is pro-life, pro-stem cell research…Palin is a pro-life, pro-contraception woman…I am in heaven. I’m going to be dancing to the voting booth this November, people.
If it is Sarah and cindy gets in a car wreck, does the Palin family have enough money to take care of John when he leaves his goldmine?
Peach Pit,
Please refrain from mocking the LDS faith.
Ha. PP sounds like they’re in denial.
well, McCain could always change his views on EMBRYO destruction.
And Sarah obviously doesn’t use contraception HERSELF (5 kids ;) ) She’s pro FAMILY.
Palin is the pick: the best quote of the campaign season –
“I’m looking at him right now, and I see perfection,” Palin said. “Yeah, he has an extra chromosome. I keep thinking, in our world, what is normal and what is perfect?”
It’s Sarah Palin!! :)
I’m not mocking the faith. Mitt Romney believes that Jesus will reign from Independence Missouri. It was a radio interview you can watch on YouTube. How is that mocking.
How do you know she doesn’t use contraception? My mom had 6 kids and used contraception. She (and I) are pro-family too. :)
Dig a bit further on Pawlenty … there’s good stuff to like:
http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/4300/pawlenty-and-the-evangelicals-where-he-stands-on-religious-right-hot-button-issues
I’m much more interested in learning who a man’s enemies are and what they say about them … then what his friends say in carefully-scripted press releases. In the above article, the Minnesota Independent castigates Pawlenty for his agreement with a number of “the evangelical right
Obama: “John McCain doesn’t get it.
Ha! I think McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin says he totally “gets it”.
Hooray for the opportunity to vote FOR McCain instead of simply against Obama. ; )
My grandmother had 5 kids. She used contraception. But making assumptions IS fun.
I’ve got no problem with Sarah Palin – she’s all about contraception and comprehensive sex ed. Its a pro life view that makes sense – and if I remember correctly, she and McCain both support abortion in cases of rape/incest/health – so again – its a compromise I think everyone could deal with. That is, as long as the conservatives are okay with having an adulterer back in the White House. I wonder why it doesn’t bother them as much this time around.
It doesn’t matter WHAT Romney believes, PeachPit, he’s not the guy. Palin is. What do you think about that?
Okay, I’m late to the party, but I just noticed this on RedState:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/29/breaking-all-major-media-buzz-now-focusing-o/
Palin for VP. Very nicely done, John. Very nicely done. :)
Hey wouldn’t it be cool if the first woman elected to the Vice-Presidency was a pro-lifer? So much for abortion being a “women’s issue”….
I am SO happy today, Amanda. :D
Hey wouldn’t it be cool if the first woman elected to the Vice-Presidency was a pro-lifer?
Naaman,
It would be very cool indeed!
“I’m not mocking the faith. Mitt Romney believes that Jesus will reign from Independence Missouri.”
Yes, I realize that that is part of their doctrine. The tone seemed sarcastic to me, but since I was hearing the tone in my head, that may not correspond to how you intended it to be read. OK, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
It is actually pretty exciting for this awesome person to be considered. She seems like a real gem. :)
*hugs Xalisae with glee*
*does a happy dance with Lyssie*
Mike:
Yes, this is absolutely a move of genius by John McCain who has just shown his ability to lead.
Thank you Jesus, thank you.
And the prospect of the first woman President being Republican and Pro-life makes me swoon.
Praise God, praise God, praise His Holy name.
I am ecstatic.
ABC (which earlier reported she was still in Alaska) says it’s Palin:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5684098&page=1
I’m so frustrated. Can’t get into admin. Palin is a fabulous pick. She chose to deliver her baby with Down syndrome, Trigg, earlier this year despite recommendations to abort.
Obama on the other hand was provided testimony 3 years in a row of at least 1 baby with Down syndrome who had been aborted alive and was relegated to die in a hospital soiled utility room – and he still actively opposed a law to stop it.
Wow, look at this!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2005463/posts
Praise the Lord for her!
Oh man, I’m SOOO EXCITED for Palin! She’s GREAT!
Now I’m pretty excited to vote for McCain!
I’d rather her be running for president, because I’m not a huge fan of either presidential candidate. I just wish there was a POLITICALLY MODERATE party. I still can’t with good conscience vote for either candidate against my convictions, but this changes a lot of my outlook. She’s completely awesome.
Does she have the experience to lead? When McCain dies about three years in do we want a 2 year gov. to be leading out country…especially one that is so close to mood swings and hot flashes?
It’s “Trig” (just one “g”).
And that’s Trig Paxson Van Palin to you (after all, he’s going to be the First Baby one day).
So there is reason to hope… If McCain wins, it may be Palin for president in 2016!
Posted by: Mike at August 29, 2008 9:26 AM
That article doesn’t sound “official” at all. It says “sources say…” “Two men, a woman, and two teenagers were on the flight.” Pawlenty has two teenagers and a wife.
I’ll wait until I hear it from McCain. I like Palin and would like to see her on the ticket but she has only been governor since 2006 and Pawlenty has a couple terms under his belt I believe.
Elizabeth! I humbly beg you to get on facebook or AIM so we can celebrate. ;)
Did someone earlier HAVE to mention Kate Michaelman ??? She’s like a recurring nightmare of the worst kind.
So there is reason to hope
Hope and Change, Bobby, Hope and Change!
Fox just confirmed it!
YES ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Bye-Bye-Obama!
PeachPit,
Are you listening to yourself?
Palin, a GOVERNOR, is running with McCain. She has more governing experience than the good senator Obama. She is more accomplished politically than our humble messiah. She was more than a community activist, she was actually a mayor. She doesn’t need a stadium and fireworks to hype her personality. Her record speaks for itself.
Obama can’t touch her. He can’t point the no-experience finger at her; he can’t blame McCain for picking a woman since he was too chicken to do it himself. Not to mention she gave birth to a DS baby which is a testimony to his lack of compassion for unwanted children, DS or no.
Hisman, may I have the honor of swooning with you? Woo-hoo!
Wow, Peach Pit,
You are really threatened and scared of this ticket. Not only does she have executive experience, but in three years she’ll have as much political time in DC as Obama currently. Your fear is telling, and a good sign for McCain/Palin.
Guys, I’m in tears.
God is good.
God is good.
Our prayers and our tears are being answered.
God you are so, so good.
CARDER,
AND SHE’S A WOMAN! ! ! ! ! ! ! YEEEEEEE HAWWWWWW!
Is there room enough in that dance for me!
Palin Pro-Life,Pro-Family, Pro-Hunting and Fishing, Pro-Drilling in Alaska! Yeah!
Social Conservative
Fiscal Conservative
One of the first thing she did when she got into her office…she sold the Governor Jet…lol. Not like speaker of the house who wanted a Jet for her whole family.
View this cool youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXfiOSCfY44
Found it referred to on us conservative politics about.com topic
Great choice, I am pleased.
WHOOPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mc Cain has certainly destroyed his central argument against Obama- lack of experience, particularly in foreign policy by, at age 72, selecting a running mate whose credentials are ex mayor of a town of 8,500 and less than two years as governor of Alaska, with no national office and no foreign policy experience whatsoever.
I’m so excited about this!
Hisman,
I was just wiping the tears from my eyes when I read your last post. The praying, the fasting, the sacrifice..we’re starting to see a payoff!
MK, what’ll it be? Salsa? Merengue? The polka?
Woo hoo! I am so FREAKING excited right now!
Friends:
Let’s not forget to thank God and ask Him to show favor on this ticket. Ultimaltey it is God who is our leader.
John McCain, you are the man I knew you to be. A man of your word, a man of courage.
Fellow pro-lifers, if this doesn’t convince you that John is a leader that will truly bring change to this country, the first woman President of the United States, a pro-lifer who lives what she believes, nothing will.
And Obama picked a pro abortion running mate. What’s your point, LTL?
*rolls eyes*
LTL,
That’s going to be the Dems’ line, but really weak. The VP must be ready for the presidency at a heartbeat’s notice, but that’s a big step from running the show. If Barack had a couple of years’ experience as VP or governor, the inexperience line wouldn’t hold.
Foreign leaders like Putin doesn’t take calls from the VP, but the POTUS. That phone call will come from Obama or McCain (McCain has the experience), not from Biden or Palin (Biden has more experience).
MK, what’ll it be? Salsa? Merengue? The polka?
ALL OF THE ABOVE!
LTL,
Palin has experience running a business. What business has Obama managed?
She’s governed longer than Obama has sat his behind in the Senate.
She is FOR drilling here and now. She’s a babe. Find the last beauty pageant Obama won!
She will rev up the base AND attract the Hillary I-told-you-so’s.
Foreign Policy? So Obama flew to the other side of the hemisphere and campaigned for the German vote. Palin, I have no doubts, will wow them, too.
And she’s a mom of 5 kids. Five! That’s double the national average.
And her last baby wasn’t tossed in the closet with Obama’s blessing.
Oh happy day!
Go my sisters.
Go Esther…….go Esther…..
I’m crying in laughter that HIsMan is crying….
PeachPit, you are an outrageously out of line jerk right now. Making fun of people celebrating something they value, no matter how they celebrate it (with tears of joy), is a pretty big d*ck move. Please, have some couth.
I can already anticipate the official Planned Parenthood/NARAL line on Palin:
While we respect the choice that Governor Palin made with respect to her last pregnancy, she would deprive other women of the right to make the same choice.
“The same” in this context, of course, meaning something quite different.
Am sooo curious what Big Abortion must be fuming.
Crying at a VP pick? are you serious? that means that someone should be checked in on once and hour and have their belt taken away.
Peach Pit, I’m not crying but I’m the most excited about this that I’ve every been about a political candidate.
I am sure many people, PP, have a tear in their eye at the first female VP candidate since Ferraro. It means boundaries and walls are coming down in our society. HisMan’s reasons may be different, but they are no less valuable to be emotional about. Sorry, PP, you’re just being a jerk now.
LTL and those others who may think that the lack of experience the GOP has been using against Obama will play out in McCain VP pick …guess what she has had far more experience “running” government than Obama.
This woman is a mavrick in all the best of ways. She is a mom with 5 kids, one is a down child and other is going to Iraq, a working mom and a hockey mom. She is a lifetime member of the NRA, She snowmoblies and has won 4 times of some race in her state, she hunts and fish, she was a beauty pragent winner. She was 44 years old when voted in as Gov., she is younger than Obama, she stood up against those guys who wanted to build a bridge to no-where in her state.
She is an awesome pick…he could not have taken the wind out of Obama campagne…this is incredible!
YES!!! Joining in the dancin!!! :)
What an awesome pick!
“Fellow pro-lifers, if this doesn’t convince you that John is a leader that will truly bring change to this country, the first woman President of the United States, a pro-lifer who lives what she believes, nothing will.”
I agree HisMan. This is a great pick. Shes tough too, a person of character, smart, executive experience.
and finally…
Obama: sides with abortionists over a down synrome baby.
Palin: delivers a down syndrome baby.
I’m sure the average voter will be very impressed by a vice president whose primary qualification is the ability to reproduce, a lot.
Wait until women find out that her goal is to have every woman give birth to at least 5 children, by denying them access to birth control.
This move to court the anti-gay, anti-birth control anti-abortion extremists will marginalize and defeat McCain.
Mc Cain has certainly destroyed his central argument against Obama- lack of experience, particularly in foreign policy by, at age 72, selecting a running mate whose credentials are ex mayor of a town of 8,500 and less than two years as governor of Alaska, with no national office and no foreign policy experience whatsoever.
Well, that’s why she was picked as VICE PRESIDENT and not president…maybe Obama should have run for VP!
Does she have the experience to lead? When McCain dies about three years in do we want a 2 year gov. to be leading out country…especially one that is so close to mood swings and hot flashes?
Posted by: PeachPit at August 29, 2008 10:01 AM
wow this is pretty big assumption all around!
Yes, McCain’s dead in 3 years and a perimenopausal woman can’t possibly make ANY reasonable decisions. Gee thanks. I guess you better plan on packing it in when you hit 50 pip! Your life will be over and you’ll be in a nursing home.
I’m sure the average voter will be very impressed by a vice president whose primary qualification is the ability to reproduce, a lot.
Wait until women find out that her goal is to have every woman give birth to at least 5 children, by denying them access to birth control.
This move to court the anti-gay, anti-birth control anti-abortion extremists will marginalize and defeat McCain.
Posted by: LTL at August 29, 2008 10:45 AM
NOPE. I sure alot of voters will be impressed that this lady has a big heart. She didn’t flush her Down Syndrome baby down the drain and she has a family – a large family by today’s standards. I think alot of people can relate to that.
—Wait until women find out that her goal is to have every woman give birth to at least 5 children, by denying them access to birth control.—
And another swing and miss, LTL. She is a strong supporter of birth control. Yep, this was a roundhouse punch for McCain. The opponents are confused and swinging wildly.
meant to write “He could not have taken the wind out of Obama’s campaign with any other pick.”
This is really awesome!
LTL,
Palin isn’t anti-BC.
Reuters has the story now:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2940588620080829
Best quote:
Palin is a conservative first-term governor of Alaska with strong anti-abortion views and a record of fiscal conservatism. She is an avid sportswoman who would bring youth and vitality to the ticket. McCain turns 72 on Friday.
Translation from Reporter-speak into English:
“The GOP base will like her, and the rest of the country will think she’s hot!”
Palin is a good choice, seriously. A pro-life woman is a brilliant way to carry the issue to the American public. A pro-drilling Alaskan is a good way to appeal to people who are feeling great financial pain when they fill up their cars’ gas tanks. And Reuters does have a point about image; Sarah Palin is a great antidote to the “Republicans are old white guys” meme.
I like the people who are trying to play the experience card against Palin. Hah! I think it’s a lot more important that the President has enough experience to lead. McCain easily beats Obama in terms of experience. Even if Biden beats Palin in terms of experience (and I’ll get to that later), that “experience gap” still counts for much less than the gap between McCain and Obama. Frankly, the Veep is a position that can provide some on-the-job training. Unless McCain drops dead right after his Inaugural Address (Harrison, right?), Palin will have plenty of time to learn on the job. And she’ll have an excellent mentor: President John McCain. :)
Now let’s get back to the question of Sarah Palin’s experience. Is she really less experiences than Biden? Only if you’re just counting years of service. Unlike the McCain-Obama match, the Biden-Palin comparison isn’t really apples to apples. Biden has experience as a legislator. Palin has experience as an executive. Guess what a President does? That’s right! A President is an executive.
Biden might have more total experience in public service, but Palin has more relevant experience.
I’m sure the average voter will be very impressed by a vice president whose primary qualification is the ability to reproduce, a lot.
“Wait until women find out that her goal is to have every woman give birth to at least 5 children, by denying them access to birth control.
This move to court the anti-gay, anti-birth control anti-abortion extremists will marginalize and defeat McCain. ”
Mrs. Palin is actually pro-birth control. Nice try though.
Hey, the ralley speech is being broadcast live on Yahoo.
I think she’d support any bills to help college aged women keep their babies AND continue college.
OF course, right now it’s just people waving and music. LOL.
McCain has selected pro-life Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his VP. Good choice.
the fact she has 5 kids means a lot…to moms everywhere…the fact she works means a lot to moms everywhere…the fact she has a down child will be highlighted through the up coming weeks and will bring the abortion issue to the forefront. This is really awesome!
OUTSTANDING CHOICE!! WE’RE DANCING IN THE STREETS!!
:D :D :D
Sorry to interrupt the kool-aid party, but the average voter and the media are already focusing on the absence of experience, the state trooper scandal, the corrupt AK Republican party, etc.
Seriously, go to some mainstream news sources some time. You may learn something.
We just need to ask ourselves one question and I don’t know if this is allowed constitutionally. If Cindy is crippled..can McCain officially marry his VP?
Let’s all go pray and fast and cry to the heavens that the hurricane doesn’t kill more americans and stop fasting and praying for VP picks.
I am also curious what Palin’s stance is on bombing more muslim kids and creating more terrorists…
He’s about to start his speech!
LTL, I have been. If you also notice, they mainstream news also focus on her participation on an ethics panel which lead to the resignation of a Republican official. She’s been an outsider breaking in. I’ll watch the state trooper issue, too. But, this is a pro-life website, and yes, we celebrate a pro-life ticket.
As far as kool-aid goes, at least you know ours won’t kill you or your unborn children. Pregnant women should never sip what the Dems are offering.
He’s about to start his speech!
Yay, I’m watching! :)
“I guess you better plan on packing it in when you hit 50 pip!”
Uh…Patricia…I wasn’t the one who said that.
Michael- this is exciting- I will definitely do some research about her!
He just said he has to shake up Washington….HE IS WASHINGTON! The real work begins when he wins..what a joke. 27 years in the senate and now he wants to start working.
“Uh…Patricia…I wasn’t the one who said that.”
Right. It was she who was once owned by Dylan McKay, PeachPit.
Quoth LTL:
Seriously, go to some mainstream news sources some time. You may learn something.
Okay, I’ll take that dare:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/08/the_palin_stunner.html
Yeah, the WaPo is talking about her relative lack of experience. They’re also talking about Palin’s brilliant career, her strong conservatism, her record of reform, and the possibility that a women VP could woo some disgruntled Hillary supporters. State trooper scandal? What state trooper scandal?
Oh, that state trooper “scandal”:
Democrats are also likely to hone in on questions of whether Palin exerted her influence over her public safety commissioner to fire a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from Palin’s sister. Palin has denied any wrongdoing. In the immediate aftermath of the Palin news, Democrats were already moving the story around to reporters — signaling their intent to make it a major issue.
In other words: The Dems want to make a big deal about an Alaskan state trooper being fired under possibly-fishy circumstances.
LTL … there’s a big difference between facts that resonate with the voters and DNC press releases. Seriously, go to some mainstream news sources some time. You may learn something.
This does make the ticket seem totally different- interesting how much we place on our VP’s- since the presidential candidates have opened their mouths a little more, people seem to get more and more tired of them.
She is attractive..keep John away
HisMan: “I just don’t think Pawlenty as being able to help McCain because he’s an unknown…60 days before the election is not time to spend a lot of time justifying your VP decision.”
Well, not as unkown as Palin.
However, I must share the glee of many here today. I could not be more excited about McCain’s pick. What a cynical ploy. What a disaster for his campaign. What a great day for America.
This is so funny…he said “No hurry” on the speech, he wanted to the crowd to cheer longer. He has 15,000 people there….only 5x’s the most he has EVER had at a speech!
Hal,
Why do you think it’s a disaster? Because she’s not from a swing state?
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! This is AWESOME!
Because she’s not pro abortion, Michael. Because she’s a pro life woman with 5 children, not with 2.2 children. Because she did not give into pressure to abort her Downs Syndrome child.
Uh, Hal democrats are excited for Palin.
Here’s some examples.
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Although I would much prefer to be voting for Hillary Clinton for President, I can comfortably vote for Sarah Palin as McCain
Hal wrote:
However, I must share the glee of many here today. I could not be more excited about McCain’s pick. What a cynical ploy. What a disaster for his campaign. What a great day for America.
What, an Obama supporter embracing the politics of cynicism? Say it ain’t so!
Isn’t it interesting how so many people are assuming that the only possible reason for McCain to pick Palin is because he wanted a set of ovaries on the ticket? Why is that?
As I noted in my earlier comment about Palin, she has many virtues to recommend her. She’s a popular governor. She’s pro-energy at a time when gas prices are a big deal. She’s a reformer and an outsider. She’s a strong conservative. She’s pro-life. Yeah, Sarah Palin is also a woman, but why does her biology have to take precedence over everything else?
I long for the day when America will move beyond identity politics.
The complaints from self-proclaimed liberals are especially funny. Shouldn’t y’all be the most-willing to rise above gender? And what’s with all of the remarks about Palin as if she’s some sort of sex object? That’s not very “progressive” of you….
Michael, you’ve got to be kidding?
She’s the unknown former mayor of a little backwater town in Alaska. She’s been Governor for what, 18 months? Of the smallest state with a huge budget surplus. No real challenge there. She has never expessed any foreign policy views, never been tested by the national media, and is being proposed as a person a heartbeat away from the Presidency. It highlights McCain’s age and cancer. It removes any argument from the Republicans that Obama is too inexperienced (their only legitimate swipe at him by the way) If Palin is qualified to step in on day one, how can you say Obama isn’t. As Brendon Loy wrote:
“[T]he thrust of the Dems’ argument will not be that Palin is too inexperienced; it will be that McCain is being disingenuous when he argues that Obama is too inexperienced. This argument will gain wide acceptance among the pundit class, and it will also succeed with voters — largely because it is correct, and obviously & instinctively so.”
Once you take away the experience attack on Obama, he’s a shoe-in.
She’s very pro-life, which pleases you guys, but will not win over any unhappy Hillary voters (which McCain has been trying to do) She seems nice and smart, and all that. I have nothing against her, but I do not think it helps McCain win the election. Obama’s pick of Biden looks better and better in contrast to this choice.
Although opposed to gay marriage, she’s soft on gay rights:
“Palin’s first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples.”
Naaman, saying Palin was picked for reasons other than her gender is like saying Clarence Thomas was picked for reasons other than his race.
Hal, this may be the first time in American history that the choice of a VP completely destroys a campaign. Palin’s experience and qualifications are already being unfavorably compared with Dan (“potatoe”) Quayle.
Oh, and she also is a creationist, that wants the bible version of creation taught in public schools. Big winner here, big loser with the other 95% of voters.
This screw up by McCain has eclipsed the events of last night for the Dems. They are ecstatic.
She gave a great speech, she has a wealth of executive experience. No promises or platitudes
Hal, I was wrong about Palin. I really didn’t know who she was.
Now after hearing her speak, not only has McCain hit a home run…he has hit a grand slam.
And to all you pro-aborts out there: Your hate for women, children, and God is only exceeded by your love for a pro-abort, lying, and sexist Oback-Biden ticket.
THANK YOU LORD!!!!!! WHAT A DAY TO REMEMBER!
I am ecstatic. I can’t stop smiling. Let’s check in with Andrew Sullivan:
“I can see the logic of this, and she made a good speech. I’m just very unsure what this does to the race. It’s a total curve-ball. Will people respond to this – essentially window dressing for female independents? Or will they consider this a trivial, headline-grabbing choice that suggests a lack of seriousness about governing?”
She acknowledged Hillary Clinton accomplishments ( unlike Obama, who wouldn’t even consider Hillary for VP ).
Posted by: Jasper at August 29, 2008 12:03 PM
Revisionist history so soon? Obama spent four nights acknowledging Hillary’s accomplishments.
Hal,
She’s the unknown former mayor of a little backwater town in Alaska.
Considering Obamas entire campaign has been about fighting for the “LITTLE” guy, the nobody from nowhere, USA (note the 15 people that told their sob stories last night), I’m a little surprised at your reaction.
What, it’s okay to “help” the little guy, but we don’t want one running for office? Kind of like, I have no problem with black people, one lives next door to me?
HisMan @ 12:03,
Hal, I was wrong about Palin. I really didn’t know who she was.
Now after hearing her speak, not only has McCain hit a home run…he has hit a grand slam.
I love the baseball analogy! If McCain wins and the Cubs can win the World Series, what a year this would be!
“Dems have been ‘rope-a-doped'” — Limbaugh
Also, Biden’s big mouth will get him into trouble any way he approaches Palin. As Martha Stewart would say, “It’s a good thing.”
Speaking of “THE CUBS” what is with Obama constantly harping on how much he’s done for the South Side of Chicago…If I was a South Sider I’d be pretty ticked off! There are a ton of rich folks living on the South Side. The “Inner City” is the West Side…Not the South!
MK, it just ripped the rug out from under McCain’s only legitimate criticism of Obama, his relative inexperience. I’ve been to Wasilla. It’s not exactly New York, or even Albany. Population 8,400.
Look, I’m sure she’s a wonderful person. I hear good things about her, but if your whole campaign is “the other guy ain’t ready to lead,” how could you be so stupid to pick someone even less experienced?
I’m not attacking the choice, I LOVE IT.
Although opposed to gay marriage, she’s soft on gay rights:
“Palin’s first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples.”
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Really, Hal? Now I’m EVEN HAPPIER! I love gay rights!
I love how we characterize her based on her credentials, opinions, stances, and history, and the other side calls her “ovaries” and “window dressing”. You liberals make me sick, with the way you use minorities and women. Maybe now people will wake up to these disgusting tactics.
Obama last night “I am my brothers keeper”
(Obama’s brother lives in a hut)
“She’s the unknown former mayor of a little backwater town in Alaska.”
Hahahaha, Hal. Way to reinforce Obama’s statement about “clinging to religion and guns”. Obama and his supporters’ motivations and opinions are all too obvious now.
Hal, she has executive experience. You may discount her experience as a mayor, but I put alot more stock in that than Obama’s “community organizer”. Also, she understands the oil trade which is crucial for these times.
Hey, on this day McCain is the “uniter.” All of us can rejoice in this pick. Let’s check back on November 5th and see who’s rejoicing then, shall we?
Hal:
You forget that she’s running for VP not President….ha., ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I really wish you would take afew years off, go into seclusion and get your head on straight.
Now Janet:
There are probably more Cubs fans here is AZ than D’Back fans. You don’t want to get on my wrong side on this issue. You’re right about being pro-life but remember, baseball is a man’s game.
Hey, did ya hear. Palin was a point guard in high school. How cool is that?
You know, Palin reminds me of my daughter, a state track and cheerlieading champion and tough as nails. Ya never know.
Hal, this may be the first time in American history that the choice of a VP completely destroys a campaign. Palin’s experience and qualifications are already being unfavorably compared with Dan (“potatoe”) Quayle.
Oh, and she also is a creationist, that wants the bible version of creation taught in public schools. Big winner here, big loser with the other 95% of voters.
This screw up by McCain has eclipsed the events of last night for the Dems. They are ecstatic.
Posted by: LTL at August 29, 2008 12:01 PM
So creationism is the new litmus test for president? Most people don’t care about evolution/creationism except maybe scientists and atheists and they are liberals voting for Obama already.
I just came on line, maybe someone addressed this… but, which Democratics are ecstatic about McCain’s choice?
==if your whole campaign is “the other guy ain’t ready to lead,” how could you be so stupid to pick someone even less experienced?==
“LesS experienced” than who?? Obamarama???
She has more experience — EXECUTIVE experience — than he does, plus more ACCOMPLISHMENTS. IN HER FIRST TERM. She has more executive experience than the entire top of the Dem tix!
This pick puts the Dems in a terrible position. I almost feel sorry for them. NOT!
“Now after hearing her speak, not only has McCain hit a home run…he has hit a grand slam.”
HisMan, I coudn’t agree more.
I messed up my quotes @ 12:19 – here’s a correction. Sorry.
Hal, this may be the first time in American history that the choice of a VP completely destroys a campaign. Palin’s experience and qualifications are already being unfavorably compared with Dan (“potatoe”) Quayle.
Oh, and she also is a creationist, that wants the bible version of creation taught in public schools. Big winner here, big loser with the other 95% of voters.
This screw up by McCain has eclipsed the events of last night for the Dems. They are ecstatic.
Posted by: LTL at August 29, 2008 12:01 PM
So creationism is the new litmus test for president? Most people don’t care about evolution/creationism except maybe scientists and atheists and they are liberals voting for Obama already.
I just came on line, maybe someone addressed this… but, which Democratics are ecstatic about McCain’s choice?
“North to Alaska!” – Johnny Horton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSt0NEESrUA
==..which Democratics are ecstatic about McCain’s choice?==
Uh, 18 million Hillary voters.
I’m comfortable with his choice because both McCain and Palin are vehemently opposed to the Marriage Amendment – which means that regardless of who is elected, the whole concept of a nationwide ban on gay marriage/civil unions is DEAD.
Also, regardless of who wins, we will have a White House that supports contraceptive use and embryonic stem cell research.
I still think McCain is a scumbag for what he did to his first wife, and hate the idea of another President who is more gung-ho about war than peace – but no matter what happens, I’ll just be elated to see Bush pack and leave.
Her experience as runner up in the Miss Alaska Contest certainly qualifies her to be president.
Time to leave the kool aid stand for the weekend.
The Democrats may need plastic surgery to wipe the grins off their faces. This choice of VP is a screw-up behond human belief.
==Now after hearing her speak, not only has McCain hit a home run…he has hit a grand slam.==
Biden is shakin’ in his boots. He cannot be too careful. He will have to pull his punches.
“You forget that she’s running for VP not President….ha., ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.”
What’s the main criteria for VP? Especially if the President is old and has cancer? Ready to step in and take over. Biden or Palin negotiating with Putin?
==Her experience as runner up in the Miss Alaska Contest certainly qualifies her to be president.==
Straw man.
Shows that you’re worried.
Good.
==The Democrats may need plastic surgery to wipe the grins off their faces. This choice of VP is a screw-up behond human belief.==
Whistlin’ past the graveyard.
“So creationism is the new litmus test for president? Most people don’t care about evolution/creationism except maybe scientists and atheists and they are liberals voting for Obama already.”
I’m an atheist who WON’T be voting for Obama, and never would. I don’t really even care if someone wants to teach creationism in school, as long as they present evolution as a mutual possibility.
==What’s the main criteria for VP? Especially if the President is old and has cancer? Ready to step in and take over. Biden or Palin negotiating with Putin? ==
I’ll take Palin who hasn’t such a big mouth.
I just made a very large contribution to McCain’s campaign.
I suggest all you pro-lifers do teh same. Put your money where your blog posts are.
http://www.JohnMcCain.com
Amanda:
There only opposed to gay marriage at the Federal level. They think it better affected at the state level. Try again.
Right. It was she who was once owned by Dylan McKay, PeachPit.
OMG BOBBY my love for you just increased about a hundredfold!! My whole family used to watch that show (back before Tivo, in the olden days of one TV per house, when there was no choice but to share your siblings’ poor taste), after-school-special-ish comments from my parents interrupting every scene. My sisters and I even had the 90210 barbies and we used to make stop-motion movies with them all the time, reenacting episodes the way we thought they should have occurred.
Side note: it takes FOREVER to film Barbies walking in stop-motion.
Anyway, Palin seems like a pretty cool choice. I don’t agree with everything I’ve read but I would consider voting for her if she were running for something on her own.
HisMan, I’ll take your challange and max out my contribution to Obama today!!!!
what a great day in America. I was on a high all week because of Denver DNC, and now this!!!!!
==What’s the main criteria for VP? Especially if the President is old and has cancer?==
So, you discriminate, based on age. We see.
McCain has no cancer.
I’ll take Palin’s executive experience AND accomplishments over Obama AND Biden who, even combined, have no executive experience and no accomplishments.
==HisMan, I’ll take your challange and max out my contribution to Obama today!!!!==
Ain’t gonna help. Everybody’s already forgotten about the Dem convention.
Hal:
Naaman, saying Palin was picked for reasons other than her gender is like saying Clarence Thomas was picked for reasons other than his race.
You have unwittingly proved my point. Has it ever occurred to you that Justice Thomas had other qualities besides being Black? Answers.com has a reasonably-unbiased biography of him:
http://www.answers.com/topic/clarence-thomas
Yes, Thomas had only spent a year on the Court of Appeals before his nomination to SCOTUS … but he had plenty of other public service, including eight years at the head of the EEOC.
Look at it this way: I assume that you have reasons to suppport Obama other than his skin color. Therefore, can you consider the possibility that conservatives might have reasons to support Palin other than her ovaries?
==What’s the main criteria for VP? Especially if the President is old…==
To take your standard, I’d rather have a vp as young and spunky as she is, ready to step into the presidency, than old Biden.
“There only opposed to gay marriage at the Federal level. They think it better affected at the state level. Try again.”
LOL.. I love you HisMan. You go after me even when theres nothing to go after. Not sure if you ACTUALLY read what I wrote, but I’ll repeat since you seem to have missed it…
a NATIONWIDE ban on gay marriage/civil unions is DEAD, no matter who wins.
And yes, Palin does think it should be at the state level, and in believing so, has passed legislature in Alaska that grants gay couples equal benefits.
As the gay rights issue is the most important to me when voting, I have no problem with her, and give her a huge thumbs up for her gay-friendly legislature in Alaska.
Everybody’s already forgotten about the Dem convention.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible at August 29, 2008 12:33 PM
You should see the emails I’m getting. Here’s one that came this a.m. (from Alaska no less):
Did you guys see Obama ROCK the world? I think I felt it! I went to the Performing Arts Center to watch the speech with 500 other Alaskans and we were on our feet SCREAMING. It was FANtastic! Education! Coming together as a country to make change! Closing corporate tax loop-holes that don’t help our country grow! “We are the party of Roosevelt! We are the party of Kennedy! So, don’t tell me the democrats won’t defend this country!” And, “We may not agree on gay marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love at the hospital and live lives free of discrimination!”
I could gush for hours, but I’m going to go drum up more volunteers and help The Man put his plan into Action. I hope you’re doing the same!
There are probably more Cubs fans here is AZ than D’Back fans. You don’t want to get on my wrong side on this issue. You’re right about being pro-life but remember, baseball is a man’s game.
Well, we’ll just have to see who’s on top in October, won’t we? God bless your daughter, but not all girls like cheerleading. It’s supposedly the most dangerous sport for girls, so you should be proud. :o)
“What’s the main criteria for VP? Especially if the President is old and has cancer? Ready to step in and take over. Biden or Palin negotiating with Putin?
Posted by: Hal at August 29, 2008 12:27 PM”
Apparently Hal, as far as Obama’s concerned the only qualification for VP is that he be a pro-abort Catholic. Yep that’s right, a guy that doesn’t even follow the teachings of his own church, a real man of principle.
You know what Hal, the only qaulification for Prez is age and a born citizen.
Well, I guess the rest is based on character and Obiden has none unless you want to call a defender of abortionists and heretics worthy of praise.
“Her experience as runner up in the Miss Alaska Contest certainly qualifies her to be president.”
Wow, what an asshole, misogynistic thing to say. Yeah, she was in Miss Alaska as a young woman.
Since then she has been mayor, served on the Alaska Oil commission, and is now Govenor of the largest state in America.
To pretend that her only qualification was a beauty pagent is very insulting.
==You should see the emails I’m getting….==
And, yet, nobody is talking about the Dem convention any more.
“We may not agree on gay marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love at the hospital and live lives free of discrimination!”
I could gush for hours, but I’m going to go drum up more volunteers and help The Man put his plan into Action. I hope you’re doing the same!
Posted by: Hal at August 29, 2008 12:36 PM”
Gee Hal, I don’t think there’s any law that prohibits anyone from visiting the person they love at the hospital. If you know of one whould you please list them?
Remember Ramesh Ponnuru, author of the “Party of Death?” what’s he think of this pick?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWY0YmM3N2JhMTVkYmI0ZjU0OTBiYTY3NmUyMjgxNTc=
Both the pros and the cons are pretty obvious. I
Unborn babies are discriminated against BEFORE they are born, just because they show up at the most inconvenient times or because of who their father is OR because they MIGHT have a birth defect. Or because they will require special education!
HOPE AND CHANGE HOPE AND CHANGE HOPE AND CHANGE
The “ONE” who offered himself as the idol for change coward out and chose a guy longer in Washington politics than his opponent to fill his shoes if necessary.
The maverick, OTOH, stood true to form and chose a gutsy independent type whose judgment has been shown true in governing decisions as well as moral ones.
Can’t wait to see her top Biden with real values, and facts to his bloviating about himself!
yeah, Lauren. I never realized that Democrats hated women so much, although I should’ve guessed it, considering they advocate such a horrific crime against women as abortion.
Palin: ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE.
Biden: Neither.
Obamarama and Obiden cannot be happy.
Her experience as runner up in the Miss Alaska Contest certainly qualifies her to be president.
So what? You have a problem with someone who was in a beauty pagent, probably years ago? Pagents are still a big thing in America and part of your culture..
Oh, and she also is a creationist, that wants the bible version of creation taught in public schools. Big winner here, big loser with the other 95% of voters.
so what? what’s the opposite of this – secular humanism and that’s forced on US in the school system. There are many people who don’t believe in secular humanism. So she’s a big winner for those of us who believe in God.
Also, regardless of who wins, we will have a White House that supports contraceptive use and embryonic stem cell research.
maybe. maybe not. Don’t hatch your chickens just yet. Each day there are fewer and fewer scientists doing embryonic stem cell research – more successes with adult stem cells. Researchers do like success you know – it helps with grants and getting your papers published…..
Hal:
You are amazing. All of sudden you’re agreeing with selective conservatives when doing so supports your own death-wish opinion?
And let’s remember this, You wanted McCain to pick Liberman. Yeah right, like you would have gone right out and voted for a McCain-Liberman.
Hal, your panic atacks have got me laughing on the floor. Sorry Hal, I just can’t help it.
Gee Hal, I don’t think there’s any law that prohibits anyone from visiting the person they love at the hospital. If you know of one whould you please list them?
Posted by: HisMan at August 29, 2008 12:41 PM
Have you been asleep the past five years. It’s not a law, but hospital policie that limits certain visits to “immediate family.”
Here’s one:
http://www.siteman.wustl.edu/internal.aspx?id=388
Here’s another:
http://oldmansoldstuff.blogspot.com/2008/01/gay-couples-should-be-allowed-to-marry.html
A good friend who lived on the West Coast had been in a relationship for several years when his partner became very ill. He was in intensive care and not expected to live. The hospital would not allow my friend to visit his partner because he wasn’t considered immediate family. He had to file a lawsuit just to be able to visit. He had no legal standing.
Palin has no experience dealing with national domestic issues, either.
Are you kidding…when oil/energy is THE biggest must do topic nationally? She’s already ahead of the pack on that one.
Seems like we’re getting back some of the old great American pioneering spirit in this pick. And if things get tough, she’s already had experience in the tough wilderness and running through opponents as well.
And her husband looks like a great guy…maybe even pin up material, ladies!! Rugged good looks!
Jill:
She chose to deliver her baby with Down syndrome, Trigg, earlier this year despite recommendations to abort.
Obama on the other hand was provided testimony 3 years in a row of at least 1 baby with Down syndrome who had been aborted alive and was relegated to die in a hospital soiled utility room – and he still actively opposed a law to stop it.
Perhaps God, in His Mercy, is giving America another chance, if not the last!
HisMan, are you still crying?
“And let’s remember this, You wanted McCain to pick Liberman. Yeah right, like you would have gone right out and voted for a McCain-Liberman.”
HisMan, my hopes for McCain’s pick were not to make the ticket attractive to me, but to sink his campaign. This pick exceeds my wildest expectations. Yes we can.
http://news.aol.com/elections/conventions/republicans/article/mccain-decides-on-running-mate/9187?icid=200100397x1208450725x1200474870
McCain obviously didnt pick Pawlenty?
He picked a female :o)
PeachPit, Cite the source please.
Yes we can!
“So creationism is the new litmus test for president? Most people don’t care about evolution/creationism except maybe scientists and atheists and they are liberals voting for Obama already.”
Posted by: Janet at August 29, 2008 12:21 PM
I’m an atheist who WON’T be voting for Obama, and never would. I don’t really even care if someone wants to teach creationism in school, as long as they present evolution as a mutual possibility.
Posted by: xalisae at August 29, 2008 12:28 PM
Thanks for the reminder that sweeping generalizations don’t always work in an argument.
Hal: He had no legal standing.
Getting out the hankies in this example isn’t really necessary. This kind of situation is easily settled legally. Surprised such “partners” with such concern weren’t very far thinking.
Well, many of us don’t think ahead very well. I haven’t updated my will in 17 years and probably coudn’t find it if I tried. I know I should, but….
Anyway, gay marriage will fix this and other problems.
What a fantastic day.
I have no idea who’s going to win, other than it’s one of the two candidates. As I said long ago, we got us a horserace.
Seems to me that McCain choosing a female running mate is an attempt to get more of the votes that originally were favoring Hillary.
I heard one woman on the radio saying she was insulted – that it’s a transparent ploy and that if anything it’s going to drive fence-sitting women away rather than attract them.
Who knows? I don’t think it’s a “bad” choice for McCain, really – he’s got an uphill battle after Bush Jr., and it shows he’s willing to really roll the dice.
“I heard one woman on the radio saying she was insulted – that it’s a transparent ploy and that if anything it’s going to drive fence-sitting women away rather than attract them.”
Listening to NPR, Doug?
Okay, I see that Jill is having problems logging on to her blog, that explains why she hasn’t posted on the Palin pick.
I’m so happy about it, I might even says something nice about a proabort today! :D
That woman was insulted? Why, because Palin proves that one can hold a high executive office successfully without having to kill your children in the process?
“Thanks for the reminder that sweeping generalizations don’t always work in an argument.
Posted by: Janet at August 29, 2008 12:56 PM”
Any time, Janet. ;)
It’s something that is sometimes hard to remember, but very important, nonetheless.
Although, she is lacking in experience more than Obama… One BIG negative for the Republican camp
“Who knows? I don’t think it’s a “bad” choice for McCain, really – he’s got an uphill battle after Bush Jr., and it shows he’s willing to really roll the dice.”
Doug, it’s not a roll in the dice, Palin has a lot of experience. She’s always been in leadership positions, unlike Obama.
I heard one woman on the radio saying she was insulted – that it’s a transparent ploy and that if anything it’s going to drive fence-sitting women away rather than attract them.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Are you saying if they can’t have Hillary as the female V.P. they are going to take their ball and go home?
Okay Hal, so you want to redefine a sacred institution so that someone can have guaranteed hospital visitation rights?
Why not just change the law on hospital visitation rights and not expose society to mass destruction and the need for more hospital visitation rights by redefining marriage?
At least you’re consistent Hal…..let’s kill the unborn and not provide protection for born alive infants as a solution to unwanted pregnancy. Your lust for death as a solution can only come from one place…the pit of hell.
You know Hal, your sense of right and wrong are evidence of a personality so full of self-deception and twisted thninking, I really don’t know how you get through the day.
The offer stands Hal. God loves you and wants you to be freed fom the bondage of satan’s death grip and death wish for you. You’ve gotten the offer many times and I really could care less who you vote for in this world. Why? I know who wins Hal in the end.
However, choosing satan over God is an eternal mistake and irrevocable
God is good Hal, you should give Him a try.
Kings and Queens come and go, Nations come and go. God’s word stands forever.
Although, she is lacking in experience more than Obama
Oh puleeze…she’s been a mayor/governor making real decisions, effecting people, taking responsibility. He’s a thug-associated “community organizer” (social worker) who votes “present” rather than harm his political aspirations. The former is a real and compassionate human being. The latter, a fake and coldest of cold hearts.
And Hal: Anyway, gay marriage will fix this and other problems.
What a fantastic day.
Somehow your first line doesn’t match up with your second….McCain’s choice you meant there of course!
On a different note, O and M should take the Clintons’ cue like they did with Chelsea and keep their girls out of the lime light. Obama’s precocious little girls are really getting annoying. Why give them a live mike at the convention? Is the whole family running for President?
If Obama loses in November, he and the family could probably get their own reality TV show. Oprah could move in next door. Or they could go on Survivor. That I might watch.
PP:
Here’s a real laugher: That Obama is not up by about 15 points after his Demon Nation Convention.
We’ll revisit your numbers in about a week.
Janet:
It’s called sour grapes.
Janet:
If Obama loses, he’ll latch on to a new cause that will make him millions and of couse, a Noberl Peace Prize. Perhaps he’ll publish a new cook book called “Whirled Peas”.
HisMan @ 1:22,
It’s called sour grapes.
Yep, fermented I’d say.
Hey, good luck to your team. May the best man win!
HisMan, it’s time to redefine marriage again.
I have a keen sense of right and wrong. I just reach different conclusions than you do.
Hisman @ 1:22, 1:25,
Lol. Peas, grapes, I’m getting hungry! “Whirled peas”? You lost me there. Gotta run, see you later. I’m going to have the BEST afternoon! :) You too!
1. I don’t understand the fuss over whether she’s “pro-contraception” or not. Contraception isn’t a political issue. Some folks use it; some folks don’t use it.
2. I’m really hoping Gov. Palin doesn’t play the chivalry/”I’m just a woman” card when it comes to Biden, and I hope none of you do, either. She’s running for vice president, which means she’s at the big kids’ table now and is fair game. If I had to debate Rep. Nancy Pelosi, I wouldn’t hold anything back in the least.
Don’t get me wrong — I like what I’ve learned about Palin lately — I just would be disappointed in her if she took the “poor me” approach.
Posted by: Doug at August 29, 2008 1:00 PM
I see it for what it is. I knew he was going to pick a governor, and that they would be young. I like Palin and hoped it would be her and knew if it was it was, in part at least, in hopes of getting some Hillary supporters.
It worked for at least one. The woman I work with was a HUGE Hillary supporter and was pretty much set on voting for Obama, though not very enthusiastic about it, UNTIL I told her McCain picked Palin. You’ve never heard someone more excited. She’s a staunch democrat from Chicago. Miracles DO happen.
Janet, I agree with you about the Obama children. I don’t think it’s healthy for them to be in the spot light like they are. The youngest one was just being a little girl, but giving her a live mike was a mistake.
I just want to say one thing about Obama’s speech last night. Was anyone else confused when Obama said something like “…should we just tell people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps?” Blah, blah, blah.
Hmm, yes I thought that’s kind of the principle of the “American Dream.” That you CAN pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make the life you want to live. Isn’t that what Obama did? Whatever, didn’t make sense to me.
bmmg39,
I seriously doubt Palin would play that “poor me” card. She would not have been gov. of Alaska if that were the case.
Palin has no experience dealing with national domestic issues, either.
Posted by: Hal at August 29, 2008 12:41 PM
Right, and just WHAT has Obama done for national domestic issues? Immigration – um, nothing. Energy – um, nothing. Healthcare – um, nope.
His only experience is campaigning. That and burying opponents in legal BS so he can run unopposed like he did at the state level election.
Midnite,
From what I’ve read, it looks like Palin has been involved in politics since 1992, and it appears taht she has more accomplishments and political experience than Obama has.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
Kristen,
I know huh…He made so many promises last night, I stopped counting. Promises upon promises. I will do this for you, I will that for you.
..maybe everybody can stop working if Obama’s elected. Everything will be free!
Hmm, yes I thought that’s kind of the principle of the “American Dream.” That you CAN pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make the life you want to live. Isn’t that what Obama did? Whatever, didn’t make sense to me.
I think his point was that you can’t pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you don’t have bootstraps in the first place. He worked hard, and his family sacrificed a whole heck of a lot to help him make the most of himself. But his grandfather went to school on the GI bill, his mom fed him on food stamps, and he went to school on scholarships and student loans. I think his point was, you need something to work with, in order to have a chance to work hard.
Whether you agree that educational aid or healthcare reform qualifies as “something to work with” or just a handout is another issue entirely. We all draw the line at different places. Our public roads are what make it possible for us to buy our own cars and go wherever we want, live where we want to live and commute to wherever we want to work. Our public schools are what make it possible for even the poorest among us to have a shot at getting the basic skills required to function as an adult. Some people think that’s too much, but it’s hard to argue that the country benefits most from having an absolutely “on your own” policy as far as the basic resources that allow a person to better their lives. The disagreement for most people comes in determining what resources the country is better off for helping to provide for its citizens, and how.
Hal said: “I have a keen sense of right and wrong. I just reach different conclusions than you do.
”
The difference Hal is that you dont even try to use any reasoning to support your views. At least, thats the way you have gone about things here.
I may disagree with HisMan and his approach, but he does try to use some sort of justification. You just say “yeah thats way I feel. whatever.”
I welcome you to produce your reasoning as to why aborton on demand is a ethically supportable practice.
Ain’t gonna help. Everybody’s already forgotten about the Dem convention
Wait…there was a Democratic Convention…yikes! Where was I????
Posted by: Alexandra at August 29, 2008 1:58 PM
I agree a country is better off helping its citizens but the extent that we do that is the issue. Why is it I have neighbors that came from Poland 6 years ago with $1000.00 in their collective pocket (a family of 5) and no one spoke English yet now they own a home and their own business. BECAUSE THEY WORKED FOR IT! The mom would watch soaps to learn English and then call Target and ask about different products just to practice. They are the hardest workers I know.
There is a Mexican family down the street with much the same story although they don’t own their own business. America provides the opportunities; it’s up to YOU to work toward them. Your success is based almost solely on your dedication to work for it, not on the amount of welfare I give you.
We absolutely need those programs. I was on unemployment for a time, I have a friend who lost his job and his family went on food stamps for a few weeks until he got another job. But FAR too often welfare is a box you can’t get out of but Obama’s “answers” address none of this.
Alexandra,
But his grandfather went to school on the GI bill, his mom fed him on food stamps, and he went to school on scholarships and student loans. I think his point was, you need something to work with, in order to have a chance to work hard.
Well, he’s contradicting himself then. First he says we have no bootstraps, then he says his family made it with help from the government (bootstraps). Either there are bootstraps or there aren’t. If there aren’t, then how did HE get where he is today, and if there are then what is he harpin’ about?
And whats with $160,000.000.00 (Yes that’s BILLION) to educate kids from 0 to 5…I don’t know about you, but even mozart wasn’t composing at 6 months.
How do you go from being a non person/able to be killed/unprotected to being worth 160 billion dollars in a split second???? Nuts!
As for the Obama kids, Sarah Palins never had a mike, stood quietly in the background and knew their place. Doesn’t suprise me that O and M’s kids were attention seekers tho…
If you can’t control an 8 year old, how ya gonna control a country. Sarah has 5 and you didn’t hear a peep out of them.
Oh and her hubby is way cute!
Yes, Mr. Palin is pleasant to look at.
Twenty years, same spouse..That in itself is worthy of commendation.
I understand what you’re saying, Kristen — and mk. I was just pointing out that he didn’t say we shouldn’t want people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, he said:
Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps – even if you don’t have boots.
I don’t know the exact numbers or sources because it’s been a long time since I cracked open a textbook, but the amount of financial aid for education has mostly gone down while the cost of education has skyrocketed. I’m assuming this is what he is talking about: he would not have gotten where he is without the government help he and his family had, and for a variety of reasons — whether decreased aid or failure to keep up with changes in the economy — people are not getting similarly appropriate aid today.
I don’t think this is the place to get into a debate on economic issues and that was not my intent; Kristen just seemed confused by the quote and I offered my interpretation.
Lauren’s mother was a Hilary delegate for the state convention, and she has been completely scorned by Obama. She, and all of her friends, are THRILLED that Palin is the VP and are actually excited not only to block Obama, but to help elect a strong woman into office.
I, unlike Hal, am not going to say “HEY GUYS I HAD ONE EMAIL FROM A DUDE THAT SAYS HE DOESNT LIKE PALIN THEREFORE ITS A MISTAKE LOLOL” to try to prove something. Her mother and friends are only a few hundred or a thousand or so, and I know that they are not the majority. I do, however, find it interesting that there are at least so many that are now radically pro-McCain because of this decision. They dont seem so off put. They hate Obama for his manipulation of votes and shady dealings. They also respect Palin as a powerful woman, something that they can look up to.
Is anyone else stoked that she supports gay rights, but not gay marriage? What about how she is pro-BC?
Also, remember that time LTL made stuff up about Palin being pro-BC, got called on it, and then never brought it up again.
MK:
Interesting point on the DNC in Denver, the mile high city drunk on BO. It was Denver wasn’t it?
How many millions of dollars were spent by Democrats (of couse money made during those horrible, horrible Bush years by bake sales) on their Demon Nation Convention, only to have it all flushed down the soiled utilty room’s toilet by two woman:
1. Jill Stanek (and her sidekick in the butt MK)
and
2. Sarah Palin (the next President of the United States after JSM).
The irony is just too much to take for one morning. I am having an absolute riot today and I now know what a Chris Matthew’s tingly leg is now, except I think his was due to a weak urinary tract muscle.
I’ll tell you what, my wife is right (literally), women do rule the world and the blogosphere.
Goodbye Roe v. Wade. Not nice knowin’ ya.
Carder:
Palin is almost as good looking as my wife.
Hisman,
Next to that beautiful scripture passage you quoted me one day a long time ago (about what a real woman was) I think this Jill Stanek (and her sidekick in the butt MK) is one of the nicest compliments I have ever gotten. (It was a compliment, right?)
And yes, my cheeks hurt from smilin’ too!
That woman was insulted? Why, because Palin proves that one can hold a high executive office successfully without having to kill your children in the process?
Posted by: carder at August 29, 2008 1:06 PM
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Insulted by a woman of principle? IMAGINE! :D How many people were insulted that Hillary wasn’t even VETTED for the VP slot by Obama? lol People will choose to find offense where there is none.
Yep, you said it, carder…Sarah Palin proves that as a woman, you really CAN “have it all/do it all.” For me, she represents “true feminism” (a point which I’ve been trying to get across here for quite some time)–the belief that women can do whatever they set their hearts and minds to do, all while faithfully and fiercely loving their husbands and children.
She is one great human being.
Sarah Palin proves that as a woman, you really CAN “have it all/do it all.” For me, she represents “true feminism”
I agree with that from what I’ve seen so far, Kel. She seems like a pretty cool person.
my take on the Canadian msm’s reporting is that they are playing up bigtime Palin’s lack of experience. Our radionews station in Toronto is talking about how she has only 2 years of experience etc. Nothing about abortion vs prolife views etc because of course we in Canada don’t talk about something that is considered a “basic human right”.
ANd this has totally overshadowed the DNC! as well as the fact that it appears we also will be going to the polls in October…..*sigh*
Patricia,
It must be extremely frustrating to live in Canada!! How do you cope?
==…Canadian msm’s reporting is that they are playing up bigtime Palin’s lack of experience. ==
Any reports of Obama Hussein’s inexperience?
I’d rather have an inexperienced VP than an inexperienced and unaccomplished president, as Obama Hussein would be. However, Palin isn’t inexperienced; she is Commander in Chief of Alaska, boss of the prestigious Alaska National Guard.
With McCain, the Commander in Chief would already be in place.
With Obama Hussein, we would be without a Commander in Chief cuz he’ have to outsource his CIC responsibilities to Obiden.
I should say that Palin is Commander in Chief of Alaska, and, as such, she commands the Alaska National Guard.
==Patricia,
It must be extremely frustrating to live in Canada!! How do you cope?==
They insist that she cope on penalty of being jailed on hate charges.
==Palin is almost as good looking as my wife. ==
Tsk, tsk. What a sneaky way to get your wife to approve of your lusting after Governorette Palin.
The McCain/Palin ticket is gonna bring the Repub base out in overwhelming numbers in November.
We are very excited, and the Dem attacks on her are gonna backfire. Obama and Obiden are virtually finished.
Patricia,
It must be extremely frustrating to live in Canada!! How do you cope?
Posted by: Carla at August 29, 2008 4:07 PM
well, it’s very frustrating. It’s hard to live in this country when there are so many stupid hate laws – you can’t really express what you feel alot of the times.
The MSM loves obama – hates Stephen Harper our PM. Hates Bush too. If Obama wins, we will NEVER hear the end of it up here!
we just learned this week that the governing Conservative (?) party in effect killed the private members Unborn victims of crime bill that would have set up the ability of the crown attorney’s to lay charges in the death of an unborn baby.
you can’t imagine how frustrating this is too prolifers here
The government has said they will introduce stiffer penalties for the death/assault of pregnant women. Why? If the unborn baby is not a person, than what makes pregnant women so special that stiffer penalties are to be implemented.
The logic defies reason!
Mr Incredible you must have a VERY good looking wife!! lol
BTW, do you have a superpower?
MK:
Yes a compliment it was and yes I do have away with words.
Bobby is Studman and you are now Sidekick Butt.
Yes, my cheeks hurt too! (Laughing hysterically)
Patricia:
Do Alaskans and Canuks drink the same water? Apparently not. YOyu ust dring bottled water from Alaska.
x
“I seriously doubt Palin would play that “poor me” card. She would not have been gov. of Alaska if that were the case.”
I doubt SHE’LL do it, too, but I’m seeing some comment here about Biden being screwed because there’e no way he’ll be able to debate a woman without looking bad, etc.. I hope McCain didn’t pick her for that reason. Overall, I like the selection.
HisMan @ 2:49 PM
HisMan – Both you and Doug owe me a coffee spew-proof screen.
(Chris Matthews – LOL)
“Who knows? I don’t think it’s a “bad” choice for McCain, really – he’s got an uphill battle after Bush Jr., and it shows he’s willing to really roll the dice.”
Jasper: Doug, it’s not a roll in the dice, Palin has a lot of experience. She’s always been in leadership positions, unlike Obama.
Gotta disagree, Jasper. She’s not even two years into her first term as Governor, and what’s her foreign policy experience? This contradict’s McCain’s claims that Obama is too “inexperienced.” It’s “Dan Quayleish.”
She’s also under investigation for firing the public safety commissioner in Alaska.
Picking a woman, and quite an unknown one at that, really is a gamble, especially for Republicans. McCain’s talked so much about experience that this is a “Hail Mary” pass.
I guess you better plan on packing it in when you hit 50
Patricia, does this mean you think Michael Jackson should pack it in? ; )
He turned 50 yesterday.
“I heard one woman on the radio saying she was insulted – that it’s a transparent ploy and that if anything it’s going to drive fence-sitting women away rather than attract them.”
Janet: Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Are you saying if they can’t have Hillary as the female V.P. they are going to take their ball and go home?
Janet, X is right – it was on NPR – the feeling is that gender alone can make that much difference, rather than the issues.
“Gotta disagree, Jasper. She’s not even two years into her first term as Governor, and what’s her foreign policy experience?”
That means she has almost two years more executive experience (not including her time as mayor) than the other three people on the two major tickets put together. As for foreign policy, perhaps she won’t say something frighteningly na
What??!! Michael Jackson is 50??!!
Carla, yup. He’s like 30 weeks older than me.
Janet, X is right – it was on NPR – the feeling is that gender alone can make that much difference, rather than the issues.
Posted by: Doug at August 30, 2008 1:00 PM
Well of course, gender can make a difference and pro-aborts are angry that the Republicans have brought a female pro-lifer aboard.
I wasn’t disagreeing with x, she only asked if your radio comment was on NPR. I was commenting on the NPR reporting that fence-sitting Hillary supporters are calling the nomination of Palin a transparent ploy to pull them to the Republican side. Well, it’s not surprising, NPR. That’s politics.
As HisMan commented, “sour grapes”. They know they are in trouble and want to deflect it from themselves, making the Republicans look like the bad guys. Gotta love it if you’re a Republican!
“What??!! Michael Jackson is 50??!! ”
Carla, yup. He’s like 30 weeks older than me.
Posted by: Doug at August 30, 2008 2:01 PM
As I always say, we’re not getting older, we’re getting better.
Palin is almost as good looking as my wife.
Posted by: HisMan at August 29, 2008 2:49 PM
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Tsk, tsk. What a sneaky way to get your wife to approve of your lusting after Governorette Palin.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible at August 29, 2008 4:38
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Mr Incredible you must have a VERY good looking wife!! lol
BTW, do you have a superpower?
Posted by: Patricia at August 29, 2008 5:20 PM
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Hee, hee.
The Devil is trying to restrict me and my superpowers to the “suburbs,” but they remain strong in the Lord.
The most important thing, at this time, is that Palin energizes the Republican base. This, alone, is enough to scare the daylights outta the Obama/Obiden Democrats. It’s not all that’s important, but it’s a start.
Take particular note of what fatso-uggo, Michael Moore, said, that the approach to the Gulf coast, at the time of the Republican Convention, of Hurricane Gustav “proves there is a God.”
Does he mean to say that he is happy that lives are in jeopardy and that lives are the price people must pay to squelch the Republicans’ convention???? I think he does.
As noted elsewhere, and now sweeping the MSM, Palin is an anti-choice extremist who would outlaw abortion in the case of rape, and force a woman to bear her rapist’s child. I realize that is gospel here, but as South Dakota proved
only a very small minority is that extremist.
Wait until the Hillary voters find out about Palin. What an insult that the GOP believes women would abandon all their values merely because of the sex of a wonman candidate.
Sorry Anon was LTL. I have an itchy trigger finger like Palin.
==…now sweeping the MSM, Palin is an anti-choice extremist …==
Translation: “Palin would protect the choice of the unborn to be born.”
No foreign policy expereince?
Does negotiating fishing rights with Russia count?
Working with the Canadian sector to get that pipeline built?
And who has Barack negotiated with recently that qualifies as “foreign”?
The Republican base is gettin’ their runnin’ shoes on to go to the polls for McCain/Palin, and the Libs are runnin’ scared. The Republican base hasn’t felt this good for a while.
Palin is great-lookin’ on the shootin’ range, and she cooks up a real nice moose stew, too. Anti-abortion and pro-man/woman-marriage.
Goodbye, Obama/Obiden!
It’s more important to note the the dude runnin’ for prez has no foreign policy experience. Not only is he not a heartbeat away, but he IS the heartbeat.
It’s more important to note the the dude runnin’ for prez has no foreign policy experience. Not only is he not a heartbeat away, but he IS the heartbeat.
McCain is more adept at foreign policy than Obama/Obiden put together.