5 Pro-/Anti-life referendums to watch results
Preserving the sanctity of human life in America lost 5 for 5. Following are results as of 6a.
CA: Proposition 4, Abortion Waiting Period and Parental Notification Initiative, aka Sarah’s Law; lost in 2005 and 2006; Los Angeles Times reported November 1 was winning slightly 45% to 43%; CBS News reported November 3 was losing 46% to 40% with 7% undecided.
RESULT: FAILED (52.7% to 47.3% with 88.8% of votes counted)
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CO: Amendment 48, Colorado Equal Rights Amendment, defines personhood as beginning at conception; Denver Post reported November 1 it was losing by a wide margin, “Nearly 2/3… of voters… against…. 25% supported… and 12%… undecided.”
RESULT: FAILED (72% to 27%, with 86% of votes counted)
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MI: Proposition 2, Stem Cell Initiative, would allow experimentation of abandoned embryos from fertility clinics; Detroit Free Press and WDIV-TV reported November 2 was winning 51% to 40%.
RESULT: APPROVED (52% to 48%, with 87% of votes counted)
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SD: Initiated Measure 11, Abortion Ban Initiative, would make abortions illegal except tightly written allowances; Argus Leader reported October 26 voters were evenly split 44% to 44% with 12% undecided.
RESULT: FAILED (55% to 45% latest count with 80% of votes counted)
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WA: Initiative 1000, Death with Dignity, would allow physician assisted suicide; winning handily according to all polls.
RESULT: APPROVED (58% to 42% with 48% of votes counted)
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Hey Jill I gotta question – If the SD Amm. 11 passes and Obama wins and enacts his Freedom of Choice Act would him winning negate the SD 11 victory? I’m not sure of the details and would like to understand it a little further. Thanks so much for your wonderful blog and keeping us updated on Life issues.
Hey South Dakota, how about just stopping abortion completely!
“Oh, but we tried that and lost.”
Then do it again.
And again.
And again.
Until you pass it.
A wiser man than I said that the perfect illustration of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Most of these amendments seem to be failing.
And unfortunately a lot of the anti-gay rights amendments are passing.
Yeah, this election seemed to be a referendum on life issues, and the votes is:
1. Hand our teenage daughters over to pedophiles, with tax-funded abortions to keep the abuse a secret.
2. Gutting embryos for fun and profit, knowing full well that the only hope for cures lies in adult stem cells.
3. Kids with Down syndrome should be wrapped in a towel and left to die, not wrapped in a blanket and brought home to love.
4. Brain-sucking abortions? A-OK!
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.
Here I go into the lion’s den. I-1000 is passing in WA with 58%! Yea….now I (yes, me, myself, and …not you)will have the LEGAL protection to choose how I will die when I’m terminally ill. The only other person concerned with this will be my physician and rest assured I will find one that has the foresight to give me that RIGHT.
BTW, sorry but don’t bother responding directly to me…..I just popped in to deliver the great news. I’m too busy celebrating our imminent win to spend anymore time here with you guys!
For those of you still clinging to the idea that Sarah Palin and her right wing values “energized the base”…
With more than 70% of US precincts reporting, the turnout of registered republicans was the LOWEST IN HISTORY.
“A wiser man than I said that the perfect illustration of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
And yet we just elected Jimmy Carter II.
“For those of you still clinging to the idea that Sarah Palin and her right wing values “energized the base”…”
Give it a rest, Katie. We know you hate Sarah Palin. We love her, and I personally want her to be the 2012 nominee for president.
wow! so not only can you get your baby sucked out of your womb, experiment on living embryo’s to find a mythical cure, you are also on the slippery slope to killing sick people with impunity.
Sad. Very sad. What have you people done to yourselves?
I can’t believe Washington State just voted to allow assisted suicide.
I am disgusted with America right now. I am no longer PROUD to be an American. I am ashamed of my country and where it has gone.
Think about that woman from Oregon who was refused payment for her cancer drug, but it was offered to pay for Physician Assisted Suicide. She didn’t want Assisted Suicide, she wanted her cancer drug paid for.
yeah Liz it’s awful. I simply can’t believe it. Obviously these people think that this will give them control over death!
Actually I was telling my kids last night that in a way it’s fitting that the baby-boomers will be euthanized. After all we killed our children in the womb – the first modern generation to legally allow this. So it is fitting that our children who have survived put us to death.
The Nazis Euthanized the elderly and infirmed. Oregon and Washington have become like the Nazis.
well one only has to look to the Dutch experience.
And what does a prolife doctor do, who is approached by a patient who wants him to give a lethal injection? Does he refer? And if he doesn’t what then?
I believe that God has allowed certain nations to experience the lies of Satan in different forms. The Dutch experience with the lie of euthanasia should be proof enough that no western nation should ever want to embrace euthanasia. Heavens! They even kill little babies now.
Liz,
Don’t give up on our country. As Father Corapi says, our country is sick. We hate the cancer that is eating away at our country, but not her.
I just read that under Obama, 48% of Americans will not be paying taxes! Holy snappers! Is this true. That he will be just writing these people a cheque?
Give it a rest, Katie. We know you hate Sarah Palin. We love her, and I personally want her to be the 2012 nominee for president.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at November 5, 2008 6:22 AM
At this very moment, we agree John. As I said to Chris the other day – she was the Democrats’ best weapon.
These measures moer than anything make me sick. I blame Christians for all that has happened last night. They decided that banning gay marriage was more important than protecting life. I’m sorry, but that makes me feel physically ill. Of course, preachers still preach against homosexuality and rarely if ever preach on the dignity of life.
God have mercy on us, though we have shown we do not deserve it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5OUdj_YIpo
Richardson revelation-Obama is an immigrant
CONTACT PHILIP BERG IMMEDIATELY!!!!
WHY IS OBAMA AN IMMIGRANT!!!!
http://WWW.OBAMACRIMES.COM IS STILL ALIVE!
JOIN THE GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT!
I have to say, I’m pretty much in agreement with you Lauren. I don’t see how all this pro-death business can pass but homosexual “marriage” does not. Of course, I am glad that it didn’t pass, but looking at it from an outside perspective, I simply do not understand it. It is so blatantly obvious that abortion is murder, I would argue more so than even God’s existence. The immorality of homosexual behaviour is much more difficult to see given the nature of our society, so I don’t understand WHO was voting for death but against homosexuality.
Does the “Death with Dignity” require patient consent or will it be like Terri Schiavo where family members can work together with the physician “on behalf” of an ill person who cannot make his or her own decision?
Or will the benevolent State be allowed to decide?
I just found out that my brother-in-law, the most conservative person I know, who campaigned for Bush during both his elections, stayed home and did not vote yesterday. He was so appalled by McCain’s choice of Palin for VP he could not bring himself to vote for them.
I agree that she was one of Obama’s best weapons!
I just found out that my brother-in-law, the most conservative person I know, who campaigned for Bush during both his elections, stayed home and did not vote yesterday. He was so appalled by McCain’s choice of Palin for VP he could not bring himself to vote for them.
I agree that she was one of Obama’s best weapons!
Give it a rest, Katie. We know you hate Sarah Palin. We love her, and I personally want her to be the 2012 nominee for president.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at November 5, 2008 6:22 AM
Oh, you said it John. We all would love to see Palin back in 2012.
Bobby, I also don’t understand the gay marriage ban winning in California.
I know… ESPECIALLY California. Like, it just doesn’t add up. Obama won CA, right? That means there were people who voted FOR Obama and AGAINST gay marriage. Again, I agree with that decision, but I don’t understand who these people are… Is there anyone even on the blog who is against Obama and against gay marriage?
Oops! I mean FOR Obama and against gay marriage… most of us fall into the former category…
you mean FOR Obama and Against gay marriage. It doesn’t make sense. I’ve said here 1000 times, I understand the “life” issues. I would rather have the SD abortion ban pass than lose the California gay rights vote. It’s sad that so many loving couples have been told they’re immoral in the eyes of their neighbors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5OUdj_YIpo
Richardson revelation-Obama is an immigrant
CONTACT PHILIP BERG IMMEDIATELY!!!!
WHY IS OBAMA AN IMMIGRANT!!!!
http://WWW.OBAMACRIMES.COM IS STILL ALIVE!
JOIN THE GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT!
James, it’s over. Not that I don’t respect your exact same post repeated hourly. Oh, wait. That’s right, I don’t.
Bobby, as I think more about it, the only explanation is that Obama really did pull in a lot of votes from pretty conservative independents. Good for him, I guess.
Hal, I agree with your 9:47AM post. I would have preferred that too.
Rae, Hal, it looks like we’re all in agreement on that one.
I just don’t get it.
Post mortems are a bitch, especially if you’re on the losing side. Being from CA, I voted for prop 8, and the reason was the word marriage. Call it something else, but I think even non-christians feel that marriage is for men-women, n-o-t-h-i-n-g else.
So, Andy, you’re stuck on just the word? “Marriage” used to mean more than wife, or the woman couldn’t say no if her parents wanted her married, or people of the same race only. Or a lot of other things that have changed over time. Why not this?
Lauren, all I got out of this election was that America hates gays more than it likes fetuses.
Which is incredibly depressing to me.
Rae: Lauren, all I got out of this election was that America hates gays more than it likes fetuses.
Which is incredibly depressing to me.
Unfortunately you’re suffering from a misplaced depression. Don’t lose your reason. Your priorities are certainly skewed. Depression, yes…but it should be for the reason that your thinking (and those like you with same confusion) will result in the end of the world as you know it – with gay unions, killing of life, and euthanasia – there will be no more world because there will, with that reasoning, be no more life! How logical. And how illogical is the thought of the lemmings who can’t seem to think out the repercussions of their words.
“… there will be no more world because there will, with that reasoning, be no more life!”
And then KC adds some more drama to the party.
Hey South Dakota, how about just stopping abortion completely!
Uh, that would be unconstitutional, and we’d be putting the state on the hook for paying for the defense, which would be sure to fail.
How about you put up the money?
KC: with gay unions, killing of life, and euthanasia – there will be no more world because there will, with that reasoning, be no more life! How logical.
Geez, KC, that’s not logical. Gay unions don’t mean that nobody will be having kids. Legal abortion hasn’t meant that either – far from it. And for euthanasia one has to be there in the first place, so the “no more life” obviously doesn’t apply there either.
“End of the world..”
Oh please…..
Katie: For those of you still clinging to the idea that Sarah Palin and her right wing values “energized the base”…
With more than 70% of US precincts reporting, the turnout of registered republicans was the LOWEST IN HISTORY.
The Republican/conservative base was already plenty energized to vote for McCain – no way it was going to vote for Obama. After 8 years of Bush Jr., the fact that a Democrat didn’t simply breeze to victory against a pro-war candidate is amazing, and it shows that race was likely somewhat of an issue, and that there was still the “base” there for McCain.
Palin gave McCain a boost for a few days during/after the convention, but since then the popularity went down, down, down, and Republican objections to Palin did nothing but increase.
I just read that under Obama, 48% of Americans will not be paying taxes!
Well, Geez, Patricia, just the other day Bethany posted stuff that made it look like almost everybody’s taxes would be going up under Obama.
Hippie: Or will the benevolent State be allowed to decide?
Hippie – have to laugh – I can just hear you pronouncing the “benevolent,” there.
I really don’t think so – the Oregon act, upon which the WA issue is based, has the patient administering the drugs to themselves, rather than allowing doctors to do it, so it’s different than the Netherlands.
It’s up to the patient to request it, and to do it, and “the Oregon law, as well as the Washington initiative, also includes safeguards to prevent depressed people from using doctors to end their lives.
Before obtaining the prescriptions, the patient must consult two doctors. Each must have consultations with two physicians who must both conclude that the patient has less than six months to live. Patients who might be suffering from mental illness are supposed to have a psychiatric evaluation.”
Here’s one guy’s story:
“Tony Miller spends his days in a towel-draped chair, heavily medicated and sweating profusely as prostate cancer spreads through his body. Over and over again, he changes out of drenched T-shirts and shorts, puts them on a hanger to dry and then goes back to his chair to sweat some more.
After a lifetime of international travel as a journalist, the 65-year-old Miller has made this one-room apartment in Portland his final home.
Miller was drawn here by an only-in-Oregon-law that enables terminally ill patients to obtain lethal prescriptions once their life expectancy falls below six months.
“It all depends on the level of pain,” Miller said. “When it gets to the point when the medication is not working and life is grim — I will make my final decision.”
Jill, thank you for the rundown of those issues.
I appreciate the effort you put into all this.
“Lauren, all I got out of this election was that America hates gays more than it likes fetuses.
Which is incredibly depressing to me.”
I KNOW!!
Washington, eh? Well, that is where I’ll go when I’m done here on this earth. Maybe it will be legal in Canada by that time, though.
Leah, if you don’t mind answering, what — if anything — does Islam say about voluntary euthanasia? I’ve never even considered that it might have a different stance than Christianity. Obviously don’t feel like you need to answer if you’re busy or if this is too personal a question. The issue just fascinates me.
“Lauren, all I got out of this election was that America hates gays more than it likes fetuses.”
That’s not true, you guys know it.
Leah, do you consider your own life so invaluable that you would end it prematurely just because of cancer or other terminal illness? I know I wouldn’t. But of course everyone is different.
Ditto on what Janet said, too.
I am a life-long (since I was 3 years-old), Bible reading, evangelical Christian. I think that you really do not understand what matters most to the heart of God. As a person who has memorized most of the Bible, what I see is God’s great concern for the poor, the orphaned and the widowed. I see God’s great concern for a reduction of the “false religion” of hypocrisy and judgmentalism. Jesus was not executed by the tax collectors and the prostitutes (they were his followers and his friends). He was executed by the powerful and judgmental religious leaders and compromisers with the Imperial powers of Rome of his day.
On abortion: I believe we should do what we can to make abortion rare. I also know, as a Christian physician’s daughter and a Christian missionary doctor’s granddaughter, that medical issues surrounding pregnancy and delivery of children present many complicated and difficult situations.
I believe in protecting life not just after conception, but also after birth and through childhood, middle and old-age. I believe in protecting life here as well as and in other countries where food and water and warfare kill thousands of people every day.
I think that it is interesting that the Bible does not mention abortion, even though it was prevalent in Jesus’ day. It seems that Jesus would have remarked on it, forbidden it or castigated it as viciously as people have in our day if it was such an overwhelming concern as many Christians have seemed to make it today (at the dismissal of concern for things like: “love your enemies,” “bless those who curse you,” “If someone takes your coat, give them your jacket too,” “this is true religion: to care for orphans and widows.” I really think that Christians need to get back to reading their Bibles every single day. . .all of it.
I pray that we do this.
When my Father was a resident at LA County Hospital prior to Roe V Wade, 50 girls a week would come into the ER with botched illegal abortions, of those half would die. I think we need to do a better job of educating our children about the responsibilities, the beauty and the perils of human sexual behavior and how marriage is the place for it to happen. At the same time we Christians MUST understand that MANY young girls become pregnant because of illegal attacks on them by step-fathers, uncles, cousins and neighbors.
For me, a virgin until my marriage at age 28, I dated not so much (since I would only date Christian men committed to chastity prior to marriage). However, even I narrowly escaped an attempted date-rape when a young man claiming to be a Christian assaulted me on my way home from a dinner date with him in college. Fortunately my statement, “Stop right now, I am an evangelical Christian. Take me home right now (and my internal prayers),” worked on his conscience.
Anyway, I just pray we can turn more to people like Jim Wallis of Sojourners and others like him to help is have a more Christ-like vision for our political activity.
peace and blessings to you.
Tracy
I am a life-long (since I was 3 years-old), Bible reading, evangelical Christian. I think that you really do not understand what matters most to the heart of God. As a person who has memorized most of the Bible, what I see is God’s great concern for the poor, the orphaned and the widowed. I see God’s great concern for a reduction of the “false religion” of hypocrisy and judgmentalism. Jesus was not executed by the tax collectors and the prostitutes (they were his followers and his friends). He was executed by the powerful and judgmental religious leaders and compromisers with the Imperial powers of Rome of his day.
On abortion: I believe we should do what we can to make abortion rare. I also know, as a Christian physician’s daughter and a Christian missionary doctor’s granddaughter, that medical issues surrounding pregnancy and delivery of children present many complicated and difficult situations.
I believe in protecting life not just after conception, but also after birth and through childhood, middle and old-age. I believe in protecting life here as well as and in other countries where food and water and warfare kill thousands of people every day.
I think that it is interesting that the Bible does not mention abortion, even though it was prevalent in Jesus’ day. It seems that Jesus would have remarked on it, forbidden it or castigated it as viciously as people have in our day if it was such an overwhelming concern as many Christians have seemed to make it today (at the dismissal of concern for things like: “love your enemies,” “bless those who curse you,” “If someone takes your coat, give them your jacket too,” “this is true religion: to care for orphans and widows.” I really think that Christians need to get back to reading their Bibles every single day. . .all of it.
I pray that we do this.
When my Father was a resident at LA County Hospital prior to Roe V Wade, 50 girls a week would come into the ER with botched illegal abortions, of those half would die. I think we need to do a better job of educating our children about the responsibilities, the beauty and the perils of human sexual behavior and how marriage is the place for it to happen. At the same time we Christians MUST understand that MANY young girls become pregnant because of illegal attacks on them by step-fathers, uncles, cousins and neighbors.
For me, a virgin until my marriage at age 28, I dated not so much (since I would only date Christian men committed to chastity prior to marriage). However, even I narrowly escaped an attempted date-rape when a young man claiming to be a Christian assaulted me on my way home from a dinner date with him in college. Fortunately my statement, “Stop right now, I am an evangelical Christian. Take me home right now (and my internal prayers),” worked on his conscience.
Anyway, I just pray we can turn more to people like Jim Wallis of Sojourners and others like him to help is have a more Christ-like vision for our political activity.
peace and blessings to you.
Tracy
Tracy,
Peace to you too!
Posted by: Tracy Book at November 7, 2008 2:35 AM
‘When my Father was a resident at LA County Hospital prior to Roe V Wade, 50 girls a week would come into the ER with botched illegal abortions, of those half would die.’
Even if one ‘girl’ a week died from a botched abortion that would be a tragedy. (Not to mention at least one prenatal human being died in each of those botched abortions.)
But the 50 girls a week injured by botched illegal abortions and 25 resulting deaths is a little hard for me to believe.
That is kind like Congressman Lewis saying how the millions of africans who where dumped over board from slave ships in the Carribean inalterably changed the ecology of the Caribean Sea.
You might want to check with the bureau of vital statistics in LA County for the years your father was in medschool. You may have misunderstood him or misremembered what he said.
yor bro ken
Posted by: Tracy Book at November 7, 2008 2:35 AM
‘On abortion: I believe we should do what we can to make abortion rare.’
Here is a novel idea. Why don’t we stop funding an elective surgical procedure for women who are not ill?
Why don’t we stop using federal tax dollars to fund organizations to develop methods of reducing unplanned pregnancies who profit financially when their solutions fail?
yor bro ken
Why don’t we stop funding an elective surgical procedure for women who are not ill?
Ken, because we don’t have a good enough reason to do so.
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Why don’t we stop using federal tax dollars to fund organizations to develop methods of reducing unplanned pregnancies who profit financially when their solutions fail?
Success isn’t always guaranteed, and what’s wrong with trying to reduce unplanned pregnancies?