Hannity & Colmes tonight: Another Planned Parenthood cover-up
The bad press continues for Planned Parenthood.
Tonight Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life of America, will appear on Hannity & Colmes to discuss SFL’s secret video taken in June exposing yet more PP employees, these in NC, aiding and abetting another minor rape cover-up.
SFL’s sting had an adult SFL volunteer pose as a 15-year-old girl who had unprotected sex with her mother’s 30-something live-in boyfriend. The girl told clinic workers he suggested she buy the morning-after pill….
According to NC law, this information was enough to trigger statutory rape reporting laws, obligating any person who learned of this story to report the crime to authorities.
PP staffers acknowledged on tape the girl was the victim of statutory rape, and they were obligated to report.
But when SFL later filed an NC public records request to find if whether PP reported the crime, they found no crime had been reported to authorities.
In addition to covering up this girl’s rape, PP offered to give her birth control without her parents’ knowledge, which would have prolonged the abuse while covering evidence.
Further, the clinic told the girl anyone over 18 could purchase the morning-after pill over the counter, giving the girl’s rapist a tool to cover his crime(s).
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
This is the same PP that couldn’t seem to comprehend that I didn’t want an abortion!
Planned Parenthood is just ill.
So convincing. The pro aborts are not for protecting womens rights. They are not for women’s health. They are not for legal protection. They are abortuaries. There is a dr Tiller case in Kansas that apparently never calls cops to report crime. I guess they decide which laws to follow.
Further, the clinic told the girl anyone over 18 could purchase the morning after pill over the counter, giving the girl’s rapist a tool to cover his crime(s).
The morning after pill should require a prescription like any other drug. Whose brilliant idea was it to offer it over the counter? That kind of drug is just waiting to be abused by rapists and basically anyone who isn’t happy about a wife or girlfriend’s pregnancy. What if someone put it in a woman’s drink or food without them knowing?
Before I wrote to Jill about Rowan, I called PP and NARAL and whomever I could think of in the Florida telephone directory…I did this naively thinking, “Surely if they lobby for womens rights, then they care about the standards of care these same women receive.” (I mean FDLE wasn’t doing anything…so maybe these people will be concerned????)
I actually was laughed at by one woman who took my call..then told that she sincerely doubted this would ever occur and that Dr. Pendergraft had a superb reputation.
Uh huh, yes he does, not quite as “superb” as Tiller’s I guess. Unless the stint in Federal prison semi evens the score on PP’s “superb” scale. ;)
I for one, am DELIGHTED to see PP get this kind of media attention. What they are doing in these exposes, should be considered HEINOUS even to the pro choice media.
I am going to kick back and enjoy the fall out!!!!!
STUDENTS FOR LIFE AND LILA ROSE KICK BUTT!!
Main criticism: the way the letters scroll out. Would prefer instant transcripts.
What do you expect from an organization that is in the business of tearing babies from their mother’s wombs. And the`way they have help up the Illinois Parental Notification of Abortion Act of 1995 is disgusting. It passed the Illinois Assembly unanimously and has been help up in the courts by Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan and US Disctrict Court the Dishonorable Judge David Coar. Here is a section of the Act:
Sec. 5. Legislative findings and purpose. The General Assembly finds that notification of a family member as defined in this Act is in the best interest of an unemancipated minor, and the General Assembly’s purpose in enacting this parental notice law is to further and protect the best interests of an unemancipated minor. The medical, emotional, and psychological consequences of abortion are sometimes serious and long?lasting, and immature minors often lack the ability to make fully informed choices that consider both the immediate and long?range consequences. Parental consultation is usually in the best interest of the minor and is desirable since the capacity to become pregnant and the capacity for mature judgment concerning the wisdom of an abortion are not necessarily related.
It was held up by Judge David Coar for many years because he said it did not have a judicial bypass clause for minors who were abused by their parents and then Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan sat on it for years, refusing to present the Act to the Illinois Supreme Court so they could right in a Judicial Bypass clause. Last year Lisa Madigan finally presented the Act back to the Court who wrote in a judicial bypass clause. Then US District Court Judge David Coar stopped it again, this time saying that the courts were not set up to here these cases. What a freaking farce they make of justice in Illinois. And the same judicial BS is now heading to the entire nation in the form of Barack Hussein Obama and friends.
Posted by: carder at December 5, 2008 6:31 PM
Agreed – just display succinct sentences for longer time periods.
Use text effects sparingly – like establishing a dateline.
Additionally, dissolves/fades make smooth transitions to new sentences while accommodating different reading speeds.
Lila is using a technique which is essential for anyone doing this kind of work – a frame-counter showing continuity of recording. You can see if someone re-edits sequences etc.
During the campaign, college journalists from palestra.net did the best job of finding illegal voters in Ohio.
Now a college student gets the evidence of PP blatantly breaking the law.
Where are the professionals that we elect and pay that are supposed to do this?
On H & C, Colmes was completely sympathetic to PP, accusing the girls of having a anti-pro-choice agenda and making a false report of rape. The girls held their ground saying PP is not helping/protecting women by covering up rape of a minor. Colmes just looked foolish.
TS,
Those dirty SOB’s.
truthseeker @ 6:52,
You would think if other states are doing it, it would take no time at all to implement it here. NOBODY IN ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT CARES.
Janet,
The Parental Notification of Abortion Act has been an uneforceable LAW for thirteen years and counting in Illinois for NO GOOD REASON.
The act of failing to file a report on a >>fictitious rape
Explain to us, oh wise Mako, how would this Planned Parenthood clinic know that this was a fictitious rape? Did they see the camera? Were they told that it was fake before it happened? How?
Regardless of legality, covering up statutory rape is disgusting. Do you think it’s disgusting, oh wise Mako?
Soooo….because it was a sting operation, PP did nothing wrong since the rape was faked….Sooo, PP is NEVER covering up actual rapes. No! Not ever! Sooo…they totally knew it was all a trick, and were playing to the cameras…..PP cares about little girls being raped by their mother’s boyfriends. Uh-huh! That’s right!
Mako, if you refuse to acknowledge that SFL is exposing the real Planned Parenthood, you’re just a drop in the ocean of people that contribute to this mass delusion that allows these rapes to continue. If you don’t acknowledge truth when it hits you in the face, consider yourself a contributing factor to the problem itself.
Mako,
Did PP know this was a ficticious rape? If so, why didn’t they call the “minor” on it right then and there? You have to admit Mako it wouldn’t be very bright of them to be suspicious and then not file a report. That’s when I would be absolutely certain to file a report.
Also, before you call anyone a moron, its a crime if you KNOW its ficticious, i.e. you’re claiming rape to cover up another action or to get attention. Otherwise, every citizen who reports suspicious criminal activity would be risking criminal prosecution.
Mako,
Can you prove that PP KNEW the rape was ficticious?
PP would not be committing a crime by reporting this to the authorities. As a matter of fact, they are mandated to do so.
Once the report is given to the authorities, an investigation is initiated.
Various governmental agencies, will contact the parents of the child. Childrens Protective Services will conduct interviews to gather evidence.
If enough evidence is obtained, an arrest warrant is issued for the perpetrator. If not, case dismissed.
Either way,
PP would not be accused of falsely reporting a felony.
Think about it:
**If the case is dismissed, no skin of PP’s back.**
**If the case becomes an investigation and charges are filed against the “stepfather”, no skin off PP’s back.**
They followed the mandatory reporting statutes, in each scenario.
They are however, committing a crime by NOT reporting what was told them on that video by a patient…ficticious or not….they have only committed a crime by not following the states mandated reporting laws. (oh wait, they did do that, didn’t they?) ;)
JAN,
If I were to report what I suspect is child abuse, nothing would make me happier than a police investigation that proves me wrong.
PP had nothing to lose by reporting and should have, period. If the whole thing was a false alarm, so what? Well intentioned citizens often notify the police on suspicious activity that turn out to be false alarms. I have.
You’re right, Mark. Jill’s just a stupid nurse, what does she know?
I mean, it’s not like nursing is a serious profession in which one can most certainly get a doctorate? Oh wait, it *is* a serious profession.
Mary,
I agree.
Actually, PP had not only an obligation to report this…these dummies could have actually redeemed their reputation (a smidgen) by taking the appropriate action. Students for Life would have nothing on that NC counselor either, would they?
PP just got BUSTED,… AGAIN, on their morality and blatant disregard for the law…and allowed SFL another opportunity to expose their slimy lack of ethics!!!
The media coverage has just made my week!!!!
Now we have Bugarin (sp)? and The PP case in Kansas too!!!
Heck, this is the best “shaming” we’ve had going on since Jill got riled up, exposing our illustrious President elect!!!!
truthseeker @ 10:38 PM,
Janet, The Parental Notification of Abortion Act has been an uneforceable LAW for thirteen years and counting in Illinois for NO GOOD REASON.
Perhaps a letter-writing campaign to SARAH PALIN might get the legal process going.
At least the MSM might give it some coverage. :)
NOBODY IN ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT CARES.
By claiming that it’s unenforceable, are you implying that it’s an inherently bad idea that parents be notified of their daughter’s abortion? I don’t know the language of the bill, nor would I say I’m qualified to write a bill that would be “enforceable”, but it sure as hell isn’t a bad idea for parent’s to retain their rights. They did, after all, feed, clothe, and shelter those children for 13+ years. They made their lunches, gave them medicine when they were sick, and helped with their homework. Sounds oddly unlike the pro-abortion crowd, who delights in killing many of their own children. Why does the pro-abortion crowd come after OUR children when theirs are long dead? Jealousy? Lust for power and control? Yep, sounds like a liberal.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
Thomas Jefferson
Where is the wise Mako?
“are you implying that it’s an inherently bad idea that parents be notified of their daughter’s abortion? … it sure as hell isn’t a bad idea for parent’s to retain their rights. They did, after all, feed, clothe, and shelter those children for 13+ years. They made their lunches, gave them medicine when they were sick, and helped with their homework.”
Posted by: Laura at December 6, 2008 1:45 PM
This assumes lots of things – like there’s an environment at home that’s healthy or even safe for this girl to tell parent/guardian that she’s pregnant. I don’t deny that this is a significant issue that warrants a lot of debate and thought…but each situation is different. They have to balance the best interest of the patient – the minor – and make a decision on how involved her family/guardian/etc needs to be involved, based on the information they have at the time.
Danielle,
Good, bad or indifferent, parents are held responsible for their children.
If a minor breaks the law, should the police officer first consider the family dynamics before informing the parent or guardian?
When a child is in trouble at school or is failing, should the teacher first consider the family dynamics before informing the parents?
I’m sure you would agree the parents should be informed.
There’s another issue here Danielle. If the minor develops complications from the abortion, will she know enough to seek medical attention? The big catch-22 is that she can’t receive it without parental consent. Now what? By the way, I have seen a situation just like this arise.
Human nature being what it is, if we can cover up for something we’ve done wrong we will. A minor given what looks like a very easy way out of a frightening situation may take it, even if she has parents who would be there for her.
There was a case many years ago where a minor developed a blood clot and suffered a debilitating stroke. Her parents were considered plenty good enough to care for her after her stroke but were never consulted before she had the abortion that resulted in the bloodclot.
Isn’t it ironic that parents are considered very able to care for physically and mentally challenged children, to be informed of when their children are in trouble, to care for children with genetic anomolies, mental illness, and terminal illness, but totally incapable of handling a teen daughter’s pregnancy?
If the family situation is that bad, then isn’t it time for some kind of intervention? Is aborting the girl and sending her home to an abusive situation solving anything?
Pregnant minors are nothing new. Parents have handled this situation since time began and only recently has their fitness to do so been questioned.
Very well-written, Mary. I doubt I would have said it so well.
Human nature being what it is, if we can cover up for something we’ve done wrong we will. A minor given what looks like a very easy way out of a frightening situation may take it, even if she has parents who would be there for her.
Posted by: Mary at December 6, 2008 6:59 PM
-Believe it or not Mary, not even minor girls look at abortion casually. One of the many pervasive (and judgmental) stereotypes of women and girls who choose abortion.
Danielle,
I’m not saying they do. I’m saying that when someone offers a very frightened girl what looks like an easy out of an overwhelming situation, she may very well take it.
Its called human nature.
Laura 2:40am
Thank you.
I’m not saying they do. I’m saying that when someone offers a very frightened girl what looks like an easy out of an overwhelming situation, she may very well take it.
Posted by: Mary at December 7, 2008 12:29 PM
-Correct. And if she does, it’s because she chose to, that’s the point.
Danielle,
Not necessarily. It might be because of fear or peer pressure.
Danielle,
Let me put it this way. If a minor is caught shoplifting and given a choice to have their parents informed or not, what do you think that choice will be? Should the store and/or police not inform the parents or legal guardian?
I am truly amazed and impressed by the courage of people like Lila Roe and this SFLOA organization. Not only are they risking the physical danger of radical proaborts like PP, they are in some cases risking their standing as students, and thus their careers. In the middle of so much depressing “change”, these young people stand out like a beacon of light (and hope) in the darkness.
And regarding the controversy about parental notificaiton and/or consent, I would like to make a comment. Anyone who cites the minority of young women with “bad parents” as a reason to substitute the judgement of a Planned Barrenhood counselor for the judgement of parents is simply an apologist for the death mongers. There are probably more “bad” counselors than bad parents anyway, but the bottom line is that parents always have and always will have the ultimate responsibility for their children, not some paid liar working for a death camp.
Right, Doyle, and fighting a law that might inform a small percentage of bad parents about their daughter’s abortions (when those daughters should be put into foster care anyway) is to condemn what I consider to be the majority, the good parents. When I have a child, why should I have to suffer the loss of MY parental rights, simply because a small few of bad parents are hurting their kids? This isn’t kindergarten. The government is not my nanny. I don’t deserve to be punished right along with the “rest of the class” for something someone else has done.
Where are the liberals now? I would just love hearing a response to that!
Doyle @ 3:55,
Anyone who cites the minority of young women with “bad parents” as a reason to substitute the judgement of a Planned Barrenhood counselor for the judgement of parents is simply an apologist for the death mongers.
Exactly. Someone who works at PP is not concerned about the teen’s parents’ wishes. The parents are the “enemy” in PP’s eyes.
That attitude doesn’t serve parents very well, does it?
Where are the liberals now? I would just love hearing a response to that!
Posted by: Laura at December 7, 2008 5:32 PM
Here they are, Lauren. No one’s running from you.
If you read my above post you will note that I concede this is a precarious issue and I don’t think there’s any one answer. The point is – the PP individuals still have to consider this a medical patient and decide what’s in her best interest. In a rare instance that may be protecting her privacy, even from the people in her life. It’s frustrating to read the wide leaps the PL side takes when they accuse clinics of wanting to help abusers and statutory rapists vs. balancing the needs of the girl.
And, BTW, when I was 14 I had an 18 yo boyfriend who had just graduated from HS. He wasn’t a secret – my mom kept him close. In this day and age, that headline would be enough to get us on the 11oclock news…but back then, we were both just kids (and, no, I didn’t sleep with him, because I knew better – we talked a lot about self image, sex, birth control and consequences growing up). It was a regular teen relationship. Just a little numbers perspective for when the heated argument of stat. rape begins…
Sorry, Laura – didn’t mean to call you Lauren…
What I’M saying is the medical community is not RESPONSIBLE for protecting what’s in her best interest. It’s not their job. It’s her parent’s job, and her parent’s job ONLY. If her parents aren’t doing their job, place her in a foster home. The medical community is not qualified to parent every girl who comes in for an abortion. THEY DON’T GIVE A CRAP about 13 year olds getting raped by their mother’s boyfriends, as the videos show. How many videos do we have to watch before this becomes crystal clear to you?
Every time I hear about the *&%$# oublic school system teaching children things that his or her parents do not agree with, I can’t WAIT to homeschool my children. No one, and I mean NO ONE will EVER get their hands on my kids, or they will face a gun to their faces, and I swear to God, I will. No one hurts my kids, not abortionists, not evolution teachers who want to destroy their faith, not 31 year olds who have sick sexual desires they’d like to live out with my 13 year old daughter. Much as you’d like to debate whether or not to take MY parental rights away, my kids are my kids, and anyone who disagrees with that will have to risk their lives to get their hands on them.
(“My kids” is of course a term based in the future, being that I do not yet have children.)
“Every time I hear about the *&%$# oublic school system teaching children things that his or her parents do not agree with, I can’t WAIT to homeschool my children. No one, and I mean NO ONE will EVER get their hands on my kids, or they will face a gun to their faces, and I swear to God, I will.”
Posted by: Laura at December 8, 2008 7:43 PM
That is certainly your prerogative, Laura. Homeschooling is certainly an option if you’re this stressed out about dealing with the public school system. Um, sounds like there’s some residual issues there, based on the intensity of your response…I mean, plenty of folks came out of public/private school without post traumatic stress disorder, but, whatever. Do as you wish.
I have post-liberal stress disorder. Fighting for the lives of the unborn, and yelling at people who think “choice” should extend to ripping tiny little limbs from the bodies of tiny little babies is a rough job, but one I wouldn’t give up for the world. I’ll be dead before I quit. 50 million lives gone thus far, and unless pro-lifers keep on keeping on, all hope is lost. Pro-“choicers” can fight all they want, but my resolve IS stronger, and my God bigger. Bring it.
Woa, woa, woa! You did the liberal bait and switch thing on me!
You commented on my second paragraph only. You responded to the emotional rant instead of the actual points I made.
Care to respond to the first part?
Laura, I agree with you and Danielle the unresolved issues and stress come from the likes of PP thinking they can mutilate teen-agers withour parental consent. lol…they couldn’t be wronger.The longer they fight to obfuscate the will of parents, the more likely they are to meet their demise.
Question for PP supporters:
What percentage of parents do you think wouldn’t care if you commited abortion on their minor daughters without them even being notified?
Where are the liberals now? I would just love hearing a response to that!
Laura, that’s where judicial bypass works well. It’s not all parents that are affected by it, very few, really. But if there is a problem with the parents being told then the girl was a way to appeal to somebody else.
We’re not talking about using judicial bypass here. There are those commenting on these blogs, and indeed pretty much the entire abortion lobby, that favors eliminating all parental notification laws. I may be mistaken, but won’t FOCA do that? The FOCA that Obama and all his baby-killing friends support?