Born Alive abortions around the world
UPDATE, 2/20, 1p: I’ve received confirmation that Miami-Dade State Attorney Kathleen Rundle has received a letter from the FL House Republicans (ee page 2) calling on her to prosecute the Baby Shanice murder case.
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I called and spoke to Janet. I asked for Rundle,at 305-547-0535 Naturally Rundle and her Secretary, Ed Griffiths were out of the office so Janet asked if I would like to leave a messge and so I said yes, but first I needed to know if Rundle received the letter from the FL House of Reps. Janet said she didn’t know and so I said, “I’ll hold while you check on that.” Then she asked me my name again and I gave it to her. Janet came back and said she received the letter, so what is my message.
UPDATE, 2/17, 3:20p: Re: the last point on this post, word on the street is the FL House of Representatives is sending a letter to FL Attorney General Bill McCullom demanding prosecution for the murder of Baby Shanice.
His contact info if you’d like it:
850-414-1630 (office)
850-414-1630 (fax)
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
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Jivin J drew attention to this story yesterday in The Weston Mercury, which will sound familiar to those following 22Weeks:
A mum who had to abort her baby son because he could have been left profoundly disabled by her medication blames doctors for failing to spot that she was pregnant….
The 24-year-old says she would have stopped taking the tablets immediately and dealt with any pain cause by her illness another way if she had known she was carrying her ‘beautiful’ son.
Instead she had to give birth to her him on a commode and he died in her arms just four minutes later.
About a week ago the Worle mum had been told it was too late for a straight-forward termination. So, on Friday she took a tablet to stop her baby’s heartbeat so she could deliver her dead child on Monday.
But the tablet did not work and Katie then had no choice but to deliver the 17-week-old foetus alive….
Katie… said: “They took him away from me to clean him up and then they put him in my arms and I said goodbye.
“I gave him a kiss and a cuddle and called him Cane-Philip. The memory of what he looked like will never go out of my head. He was so perfect, with his little fingers and toes…..
She says hospital doctors said her unborn child may have been left severely disabled because of the tablets she was taking.
Then there’s this story in the February 15 Times Online, featured as our quote of the day today:
Physical coercion to terminate a pregnancy or undergo sterilisation was banned by law in 2002 but numerous reports in the Chinese media claim that it still goes on.
Chinese women are daring to speak out themselves. Zhang Linla, who has a 4-year-old daughter, told a website in Shenzhen, on the border with Hong Kong, that she was subjected to a late forced abortion because she became pregnant again before the period officially allowed between births.
“Six days before the due date, 10 strong strangers came to my house, forced me into a truck then took me to a family planning clinic, where the doctor gave me an injection,” she said.
“The child began struggling in my womb and one of these scum even kicked me in the abdomen. Then the baby came out and they threw it into a rubbish bin. I could even see it was still moving.”
An even more horrifying story, reported on hundreds of websites, concerned a case of infanticide in Wuhan, central China, last September. A farmer named Huang Qiusheng said his wife, who was 9 months pregnant, gave birth to a live child despite being forced to submit to an injection to induce an abortion. The infant was thrown into a urinal.
The next day an elderly woman named Liu Zhuyu heard the child’s cries, rescued it, washed it and delivered it to a neonatal clinic. But the reports claim that five family planning officials confronted Liu, seized the child and killed it by throwing it to the ground.
Back in the U.S. I was heartened to be sent the following press release (click to enlarge) by the FL House Pro-Life Caucus calling for prosecutions for the murder of Shanice Osborne, the recent topic of a widespread Associated Press article.
[HT for press release: Ed Brophy]
Those poor, poor women in China….
My heart and prayers go out in love for them and sadness at what they have had to endure.
What are the chances of Shanice getting justice?
Awful. :(
Abortion in China is horrendous! I’ve seen enough pictures, stories and media information to show that America maybe bad but China is worse on the abortion factor. These woman are in my prayers and I hope all those thrown away children in China are never forgotten!
These women need support from all angles in their lives, these women have had to make sacrafices that weren’t even in their control.
So hard to read those accounts.
I guess the only thing that makes me feel better is knowing these people will get their just rewards eventually, and all these little babies are in heaven. Still makes me almost physically ill, though, the cruelty and the absolute waste behind these tragic deaths…All those poor innocent babes and their mothers.
My sister, an American, was living in Bejing with her Chinese husband and expecting their first daughter when they had to flee (literally leaving behind things and abandoning apartments in the night) and hide from forces seeking to end my niece’s life by abortion in the last trimester. The fact that she was an American meant nothing to Chinese authorities, the baby is considered Chinese if the father is, and they had not gotten the necessary permission (though the first child) to be pregnant, grounds for a forced abortion. Our family with the help of U.S. Senators was able to get them out of China in time for my niece to be born here.
For proaborts who look at these cases and say they are extreme, that we could never arrive at this here in the U.S., I beg to differ. As long as the unborn’s most basic human right, that of life, continues to be trampled in the name of convenience, economics, “quality of life” or whatever rhetoric makes you feel warm and fuzzy about such an atrocity, ANYTHING can be take the place on the “justification” side of abortion—whether it’s the myth of overpopulation, a promised greater societal good or the elimination of future polluters.
klyn73,
How horrifying for your sister, her husband and your family!! Thank you Lord that they were able to flee!
Our family with the help of U.S. Senators was able to get them out
klyn73, praise God your family got out! I’m curious to know if the senators who helped were senators who had pro-life voting records. I’m not asking you to name names, I’m just interested to know whether our officials’ political views on abortion helped, hindered, or made no difference when your family approached them for help.
Pro choice forever! Keep fighting the good fight girls!
re: the China situation “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do”.
Regarding the newest born alive story, just a technicality, the pill she took was most likely Misoprostol to dilate the cervix not kill the fetus. Usually the intercardiac injection is given to the fetus while the woman is under anesthesia at her first appointment.
Followed by Misopristol given to soften and ripen the cervix in junction with laminaria (sp) to dilate the cervix over 2 to 3 days prior to the delivery or D&E procedure. This is from information gathered from watching the AbortionInfo Community at Livejournal.
Hmm, the prior html link didn’t work. Here it is again: AbortionInfo Community at Live Journal. Although it’s a pro-choice site, it’s a good source of medical information about and experiences of the varioius abortion procedures.
BTW, I know there are some pro-lifers on here who feel pretty strongly about the issue, but I posted that link for educational purposes only, please, please don’t go to that community and troll them, those girls have been through enough already.
Who? Us? Troll? :)
Pro choice forever! Keep fighting the good fight girls!
Posted by: Jeff at February 17, 2009 8:38 PM
Wow, what an inappropriate comment to this post, even if you are pro-choice. What part of the good fight are you cheering on? The Chinese women forced to abort against their will? The Chinese authorities exerting their “authority” over an AMERICAN citizen?
Well Carla, I can think of some individuals…
Rachael C.
http://rsnider.livejournal.com
In China most people never know what it is like not to have brothers and sisters. Not that single children families are necessarily bad, but the forced absence of multiple children families is not right either. Their society will decay due to the forced abortions and sterilizations. Sounds like a really awful place to live. It is illegal to raise a family.
klyn73, are the people who live in the more rural parts of China able to escape this kind of government tyranny (are they able to have more children and not be persecuted)?
In China most people never know what it is like to have brothers and sisters.
the current Chinese situation, if true, is horrendous. And it couldn’t be any further from pro-choice.
IT IS TRUE. In China, Women are forced to have abortions if they become pregnant with an “unauthorized” second child. And girls are targeted the most because they have this view in China that males are better.
One reason I HATED reading “The Good Earth” in high school is because of the way the little girls born to the family were treated. “Its a slave” the mother in the story said after a girl was born.
To respond to previous inquiries, FedUp I believe there were senators with both voting records and stances involved. TS, my brother-in-law was from Northern China and he actually was one of several sibling, in rural areas they used to be allowed more. My sister clarified to us that the one child per family rule is ACTUALLY that a WOMAN may only have one child. A man can father as many as he likes, they’ve just got to be with different women.
Update on Hialeah abortion clinic baby murder case
UPDATE, 11:05a: Read Operation Rescue’s statement condemning Katherine Rundle’s response to FL legislators. It makes very good points. _______________ I reported last week that members of the FL House of Representatives sent a letter to Miami-Dade Stat…