Jivin J’s Life Links 3-6-09
by JivinJ
a pro-choice blogger’s horror that the child born alive at a FL abortion clinic was stuffed inside a plastic bag to die:
Horrified, again, that the baby was suffocated in a medical waste bag rather than chopped up in the womb two minutes before being stuffed into a medical waste bag.
Osathanondh allegedly sedated Smith without monitoring her vital signs or having another appropriately trained medical staffer present.
A civil case filed against the doctor last March by the victim’s mother is proceeding in the same court.
Borrowing a biological cut-and-paste trick from bacteria, scientists have created the first personalized stem cells for patients that are free of the cancer-causing viruses and genes needed to make them, according to a study published today in the journal Cell.
The stem cells, derived from skin samples provided by 5 patients with Parkinson’s disease, were first transformed back to the undecided state of cells in an early embryo. Then they were used to make the dopamine-manufacturing neurons that are lost to disease.
[Photo of Edward Atkinson courtesy of Lynn News]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
A 77-year-old man (pictured left) in Great Britain has been sentenced to 12 weeks in jail for sending pictures of aborted children to a bed company.
Oh, so it IS more than just “a clump of cells”… I doubt he would have been jailed for sending pictures of a mole or his big toe!
Milehimama,
Exactly!!! What hypocrites!!!
“An archbishop in Brazil is claiming that the abortion performed on a 9-year-old girl who was pregnant with twins means the girl’s mother and the physicians who performed the abortion are ex-communicated.”
I’m not positive if Brazil follows the Latin Rite of the Church (I assume they do), but if they do, the following holds. According to Canon 1323:
“Can. 1323 The following are not subject to a penalty when they have violated a law or precept:
…
2/ a person who without negligence was ignorant that he or she violated a law or precept; inadvertence and error are equivalent to ignorance;”
So if those who participated in it did not know of the canonical penalty, then they are nor excommunicated. If they did, then the Bishop is correct and the are excommunicated latae sententia (automatically) by the Code as well.
However, what I would like to know is exactly HOW this “abortion” was performed. The MSM is extremely sloppy with their terms, and it may be the case that a direct abortion was not performed but that the law of double-effect applies here, so that there was no fault in any party. I don’t know if that’s the case though. To the utilitarian world, all that matters is the outcome, so any sort of action taken that results in the deaths of a preborn is considered an abortion.
This isn’t on topic, but have you guys seen the new videos Myah posted of Faith?
They are AMAZING. I have no idea how Faith’s little brain is working, but she definitely has way more consciousness than seems possible given her disability. It really makes me question how much we know about how the brain works. Anyways, I think everyone should go over and check out the new videos. I’m definitely praying for this sweet family.
http://babyfaithhope.blogspot.com/
I watched the “under the light” video and I think Faith was just having fun, like baby sunbathing.
She is so precious. God Bless her and her mother and grandparents.
My son was watching the video where the dog barks and Faith jerks, and he was very concerned that little Faith was scared. I honestly don’t know how it’s possible that she is able to hear, but she is definitely reacting to noise!
Common folks. The excuse the 80 lb girl had an insufficient uterous doesn’t fly. It is small human fist sized and both grows and expands during pregnancy. CPD is not uncommon and cephalopelvic disproportion at most calls for delivery by c-section.
Don’t listen to what lawyers say when the topic is medicine.
I loved the video where she is getting kissed and squeals in delight! I am so glad that this mother is educating people about anencephaly with her own experience in videos. What a beautiful testimony in her sweet little girl!
Maybe I missed something, but why exactly did he send this material to an adjustable bed company?
Maybe the supplied the beds to abortion clinics?
Excommunicated for saving a child’s life.
Of course, the child-raping stepfather wasn’t excommunicated.
That’s a pretty sick “culture of life” you’ve got there.
Excommunicated for saving a child’s life.
Of course, the child-raping stepfather wasn’t excommunicated.
That’s a pretty sick “culture of life” you’ve got there.
Who said he wasn’t? Kind of a given.
The bad guy here is the stepfather. Not the Church nor the innocent children.
Reality,
While the situation is tragic all the way around, you can never heal an act of violence with another act of violence.
Two people died in this situation, and not by “accident” or as “collateral damage”. They were systematically murdered.
Unredeemed Reality said, “Of course, the child-raping stepfather wasn’t excommunicated.”
Maybe he repented. If Hitler would have repented, he would be in heaven now.
The bad person here IS the stepfather and he deserves life in Prison. The girl (and her older sister) should be put in some sort of protective foster care, too. Supposedly the 9 year old consented to the abortion. I doubt she knew what was going to happen.
Liz, I agree. The civil government should do its job to enforce justice whether or not the stepfather repents. I’m saying that as far as God is concerned, justice has already been done if that man belongs to the Church. Then he belongs to Christ, and Christ takes care of him. Perhaps he was not previously a church member but now is, or perhaps he was and still is (because of genuine repentance). But I am a Protestant, so for the Roman Catholic Church’s perspective, you would need to ask Bobby. He has already said something on March 6 at 2:39 p.m.
And as Pansy Moss said, perhaps the stepfather has already been excommunicated.
I should point out that according to the Catholic faith, excommunication is a final, serious call for repentance. It is a formality to force someone to recognize the harm their actions called and to return to the Church, who will welcome them (like the parable of the Prodigal Son.)
The stepfather ultimately faces a far worse punishment than excommunication.
And as Pansy Moss said, perhaps the stepfather has already been excommunicated.
Well there is no way he is receiving Communion with the sin of raping a nine-year-old girl on is soul without confessing.
People who are excommunicated can come back by repenting their acts. While a Bishop proclaiming excommunication is a formal act, people can excommunicate themselves with mortal sin. Participating in abortion is an automatic excommunication.
I hope Bobby comes on-typing one handed (holding baby).
Hi y’all.
“While a Bishop proclaiming excommunication is a formal act, people can excommunicate themselves with mortal sin. Participating in abortion is an automatic excommunication. I hope Bobby comes on-typing one handed (holding baby).”
Wait, so what’s the question?
Wait, so what’s the question?
Nothing really, you are just much better at explaining things than I am. ;)
I don’t think Reality understands is that with excommunication the Bishop is basically stating what the doctor and the mother did as far as damaging their relationship with God by promoting the abortion. It’s not that they are no longer part of the “in” club.
So anytime someone participates in an abortion, they are automatically excommunicated in the Latin Church (assuming they KNOW this). This is all spelled out in the 1983 code of canon law (I can find the numbers if you wish). So it’s been on the books for years (and I would guess was on the books in the 1917 code as well). It’s simply because a large majority of Catholic laity do not understand the severity of an abortion. There is so much confusion out there that for a lot of people, it isn’t clear if it REALLY is OK or not to have an abortion and be Catholic. With rape, not so much. No one needs extra nagging to know that rape is wrong. Everyone, except weirdo philosophers, knows that rape is wrong. Bus that isn’t the case with abortion, so part of the solution is to have extra canonical penalties for participating in one. That is why the mother and doctor were automatically excommunicated (the Bishop did not excommunicate them, they were excommunicated automatically, immediately; ex opere operato you might say, haha, little Catholic joke there) But that’s the idea.
That clear anything up?
It is much appreciated to highlight the jailing of Ted here. Keep Ted in your prayers.