Obama bails out another failed industry taxpayers can’t afford: embryo research
On Fox & Friends Weekend yesterday Charmaine Yoest of Americans United for Life excellently debated Obama’s plan to foist immoral and failed human embryo experimentation on taxpayers…
Not only does embryonic stem cell research kill humans to pursue antiquated research, America simply can’t afford it. Three strikes, but Obama can’t see past his ideological blinders to count. From today’s Washington Times…
Opponents… note that adult stem cells have a better record of producing practical medical treatments and that recent scientific advances allow adult cells to be manipulated into having the protean quality of turning into any form of tissue – the feature embryonic stem cells have naturally that makes the latter so attractive.
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, VA Republican, called Mr. Obama’s plans a “distraction” from the serious economic troubles the nation and its political leaders have been battling.
[HT for WT article: Claude]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
“Why does the president persist in the dehumanizing of nascent human life when better alternatives exist? Human embryo-destroying stem cell research is not only unethical, unworkable and unreliable – it is now, demonstrably unnecessary.”
The common denominator in PBHO’s action is ‘federal funding’. He is a compulsive shopper and he particulary enjoys spending other peoples money.
yor bro ken
Obama is merely a pawn in the hands of Satan and may not even be aware of it.
Pray that he wakes up for the good of us all.
Friends, get right with God today!!!
I get truly nausated when a proabort says “They are going to kill those embryos anyway”. How about we force prisoners on death row to participate in very risky medical research? Hey, they’re “going to die anyway”, right?
The disconnect comes when proaborts talk about frozen embryos as if they were mere property, not actual human beings. Thus, they shouldn’t be “wasted by not experimenting on them”, according to the proabort mentality.
No frozen human embryo should ever be destroyed, used in medical experiments, or abused in any other way.
You’re right, Doyle. This is utilitarianism at its extreme. They’re casually speaking of embryonic human beings as though they’re leftover apple cores that should be thrown into the compost heap so that we can “get some use out of them.” “Well, these embryonic human beings are only going to be thrown away, anyhow, so why shouldn’t we get some use out of them so that they don’t go to waste?” The obvious answer is that such people present a false choice. We should neither be destroying them for research NOR casually discarding them. Each should be given a chance at life. This is why IVF clinics should (as they do in Italy) create no more embryos than they intend to implant. Some will argue that IVF is such a crapshoot that it’s hard to get it to work under those circumstances. My response: do you know what “T.S.” stands for?
Hmm, I have been interested in applying to UPenn’s medical school in the future. Its interesting to see the head of ethics debating so poorly on, well, ethics.
Think about it for a second. Are we allowed to do unbridled research on human corpses? At the very least I think we can agree that embryo’s are human corpses once killed. What do these embryos have to say about using their bodies in this way?
Also great point Doyle.
I’m sincerely disappointed in Charmagne’s weak defense of human embryos that are being sentenced to human experimentation at the expense of taxpayer dollars.
Surely there is someone who can better articulate the horrors of this cannibalism.
We are just beginning to see the earliest stages of Obama’s plans. We already know his views on the sacredness of human life, so this was expected.
But what seems to be emerging is something more than “merely” a philosophical support for abortion and embryonic stem cell research. What we are seeing is an obsession. Obama’s obsession with abortion rights puts him to the left of his own party. He spoke glowingly of FOCA when he addressed Planned Parenthood, and promised that signing the bill would be a priority. He has appointed one extremist pro-abort after another to sensitive posts. As an Illinois state senator he adamantly refused to consider bills even to let a baby born alive during an attempted abortion to recieve medical attention.
The latter is unconscionable, but there is sure to be more. Wait until the full effect of national health care programs start to be revealed. Can anyone spell “rationing”? When that happens the absence of reverence for human life will have gone full circle. With rationing those already born will join the unborn as being in the crosshairs of others making life and death decisions on their behalf. The slippery slope is becoming a free fall.
Obama’s positions on these issues seem reasonable to me.
Hal,
Key word “seem.”
Dont forget that you think like an animal.
It is ludicrous to hear BO say he wants to take politics out of science while he is pushing “cap and trade” globalony. Politicians and activists are the only groups still clinging to “catastrophic man made global warming.” The only “scientists” left that did not back out of IPCC are those that sold their souls for grant money.
Scientists are virtually united in declaring embryonic stem cell research a waste of time and money but liberal pols are so wedded to it and have been brow beating honest people so longer with it that they can not let it go. It is no different than the global warming nonsense.
Dont forget that you think like an animal.
Posted by: Oliver at March 9, 2009 2:39 PM
We’re all animals, Oliver.
Moo
Hal
Poor women will be exploited for their eggs. Because P.O. won’t stop at ESCR. He’ll want to do Theraputic cloning as well. And where do the eggs come from? Poor women who are exploited for their eggs.
Too bad we have a president with disregard for life at its earliest stages.
Adult Stem cells are helping people, but because of the media’s twisting “ESCR will cure everything! It will cure diabetes, alzheimers, parkinsons, cancer, etc” people are desperate and don’t care if embryos are destroyed. Even though there have been no treatments and tumors have formed in some of the research.
Tax money already goes to PP (Which doesn’t NEED the $). And now its going to research which has done absolutely NOTHING.
Liz,
“Because P.O. won’t stop at ESCR. He’ll want to do Theraputic cloning as well.”
That’s right. As I mentioned in my post on Sunday, he has to. We know of no other way to apply any results we obtain from ESCR without so-called therapeutic cloning or SCNT. And then what you say about the oocytes is true. We will need Lord knows HOW many of them to make anything work and it will exploit poor women. There is no doubt about that. Hal, this is something that even many pro-choicers agree with. Check out http://handsoffourovaries.com/ which is both pro-choicers and pro-lifers against the exploitation of women’s oocytes.
Seriously, this IS where ESCR will go if it continues. The way to utilize any fruits of ESCR requires essentially unlimited numbers of oocytes.
“Hands Off Our Ovaries!”
Wouldn’t this be a good T-shirt?
front – HOOO!
back- STOP ESCR!
Obama said today he didn’t want to get into cloning — but remember that it’s just part of the sleight-of-hand. Say you’re against “cloning,” but secretly mean that you’re only referring to “reproductive cloning,” whereas “therapeutic cloning” will remain protected.
Furthermore, Obama’s executive order today also RESCINDED Bush’s executive order to fund alternatives to ESCR. One would think that the alternatives are things we can all agree on, the type of thing this “unifier” in office would leave as it is. Apparently, Obama is interested in stem-cell research ONLY IF it involves destroying embryos.
Hal: I beg to diasgree. It is never reasonable to deny medical care to those who are suffering, even if they were meant to be killed and the attempt to kill them failed. Neither is it our right to kill human beings for the purposes of harvesting genetic material or any other part or organ. In both instances, Obama’s position is a radical departure from historical views on the sacredness of human life.
To paraphrase Bill C: It depends on the meaning of the word “reasonable.” Maybe that is the problem. If by “reasonable” is meant the elevation of “reason” as the end all and be all of any legitimate scienific inquiry, then in this instance “reasonable” embodies what is wrong with science today. The starting point of legitimate scientific inquiry cannot exclude God, but that is what we are doing here.
The important thing is not let these immoral, unethical Dr. Fankenstein scientists get their hands on human embyros…
With Ann Coulter on your side there is no stopping the Democrats!
For therapeutic cloning to be legal but not reproductive is the worst possible scenario. Basically, it means that some children are not allowed to be born. It creates an entire class of human beings who must be aborted.
How long after that before they argue that all defective embryos created by IVF must not be born, even if their parents want to gestate them?
How long after that before children with disabilities conceived naturally aren’t allowed to be carried to term?
And if a baby’s parents sneak him or her through by refusing testing and ultrasounds, and the baby is born disabled–well, the way to affect that oversight is to kill the baby. With or without the parents’ say-so. The DSS will take the parents’ rights and kill the baby. In the child’s best interest, you know. And why should older children and adults have to suffer without proper medical care for those conditions? After all, the proper treatment for mental or physical disability is death.
Am I crazy? I sure hope so.
I thought Fox news was conservative?
Medical technology is profitable. Pure and simple. If embryonic stem cells were hot tech, companies would invest private capital. Meanwhile private companies have raised capital for the adult and autologous therapies that have helped patients with a variety of problems.
Embryonic stem cells just aren’t that attractive because the investors and companies wager that they won’t pay off. Truth is we don’t know.
A bird in the hand is worth more than a flock of a hundred in flight.
I can’t stand it when Art says, “Who is going to use hundreds of thousands of embryos???” Then he laughs HEH HEH HEH HEH.
Better destroy em, cause who is going to use em??
Hardly a convincing point.
Just for the record:
I have looked into embryo adoption. It seems as though you have to be on the birth control pill with the procedure currently used, which is absurd to me, so I would have to find a provider who would not require that. I am also a bad risk due to issues with early pregnancy loss. Otherwise, I would definitely be willing to use “leftover” embryos.