What pro-aborts say about Kourtney Kardashian’s decision not to abort
On August 19 People magazine published Kourtney Kardashian’s lengthy explanation why she chose not to abort her unplanned baby. Kardashian stars with her sisters Kim and Khloe and other family members on E!’s Keeping up with the Kardashians. Here’s what she told People:
… Kardashian’s unplanned pregnancy forced the shocked reality TV star to make one of the most difficult decisions in her life: Would she have the baby or terminate the pregnancy?
“I definitely thought about it long and hard, about if I wanted to keep the baby or not, and I wasn’t thinking about adoption,” [said] Kardashian, 30…. “I do think every woman should have the right to do what they want, but I don’t think it’s talked through enough. I can’t even tell you how many people just say, ‘Oh, get an abortion.’ Like it’s not a big deal.”…
Scott Disick, the baby’s 26-year-old father, was supportive either way. The pair had split in November after 2 years of dating, but reconciled shortly after finding out she was pregnant…. “He said, ‘I really want you to keep it, but I will support you whatever you decide to do.'”
Confused and concerned, Kardashian says, “I called my best friend crying, and I was like, ‘I don’t know what to do.’ She said, ‘Call your doctor, and at least find out the risks and stuff.’ ” So Kardashian discussed abortion with her physician, and then headed to the Internet to do further research.
“I looked online, and I was sitting on the bed hysterically crying, reading these stories of people who felt so guilty from having an abortion,” she recalls. “I was reading these things of how many people are traumatized by it afterwards.”
After scouring the Internet, Kardashian says she started to realize that an abortion wasn’t an option for her. “I was just sitting there crying, thinking, ‘I can’t do that,’ ” she says. “And I felt in my body, this is meant to be. God does things for a reason, and I just felt like it was the right thing that was happening in my life.”
Kardashian says she did some intense soul-searching. “For me, all the reasons why I wouldn’t keep the baby were so selfish: It wasn’t like I was raped, it’s not like I’m 16. I’m 30 years old, I make my own money, I support myself, I can afford to have a baby. And I am with someone who I love, and have been with for a long time.”…
“My doctor told me there is nothing you will ever regret about having the baby, but he was like, ‘You may regret not having the baby.’ And I was like: That is so true. And it just hit me. I got so excited, and when I told Scott he was so excited. But I think if I had said I’m not going to keep it, I really think he would have pushed me into keeping it….”
Kardashian only confirmed so many pro-life talking points, and she has a great doctor. Note also Kardashian got much of her information from the Internet – web pages and blogs like this. So don’t ever think you’re not making a difference.
After Jivin J mentioned the Kardashian story, I wondered what pro-aborts thought. They must’ve read her interview with 1 long wince. Whoops, close. Jessica at Feministing called it “cringe worthy,” adding:
Good to research your options, bad to fall for anti-choice claims of “post-abortion syndrome.”
Feminists really hate the common sense possibility of remorse for having stuffed one’s maternal instincts to off her baby. TeresaCentric wrote:
The information she found is most likely propaganda from the anti-choice right describing a fictitious mental illness they call “post abortion syndrome.”… If this was the reason why Kardashian decided not to have an abortion, then she made her decision based on false information.
Teresa also twisted Dad’s paternal love and sense of protection into a negative:
This last statement says so much. Her boyfriend wants her to keep the pregnancy, and even if she didn’t he would have pushed her into having the baby.
Doesn’t sound like much of a choice if you ask me.
I can only guess Jezebel was on crack when she made the correlation between the 18-year-old who stabbed his 28-year-old (maybe) pregnant girlfriend for not getting an abortion and Kardashian’s boyfriend, who “would have set her straight,” wrote Jezebel, had she gotten one.
Pro-aborts – you know, the ones who always say the abortion decision should be between a woman and her doctor – were also quite aggravated by Kardashian’s doctor’s advice. Wrote Teresa…’
What kind of doctor was this? It sounds like the kind of thing women are told at anti-choice crisis pregnancy centers that try to persuade women into keeping their pregnancies through any means necessary.
Yadda yadda. Unsurprising reactions. I won’t even bother with the “I hope she miscarries” comments. The one that did surprise me was Perez Hilton’s…
And thankfully Kourtney feels that she made the right choice….
We think you made the right choice too, Kourtney. Certainly, that little tyke will be the favorite Kardashian in the house in no time!
[Top photo via People]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Don’t even know where to begin on this…
It’s as though they’re arguing our points for us now when they can’t even support a pro-choice woman who chooses to keep the baby.
Kourtney Kardashian isn’t an idiot. She didn’t flip on a blog and say, “Whoa!” She got medical advice which backed everyone up. Good for her.
That being said, I hope that she enjoys a happy and healthy pregnancy.
Well, this is a nice change for once. It is sad though that most of the young peeps over at Perez Hilton who left comments don’t care and actually think this is no big whoop. AND are so hateful about a saved baby. Amazing how utterly vicious and murderous people can be when someone decides NOT to kill a baby! That was a great thing that the dr. said to her. He gets two big thumbs up from me!
How many babies do you think may be spared because of the example of her decision? Hundreds? Thousands?
How refreshing to hear a different type of news from this sector of our society, the “beautiful people”. It seems they get it wrong so often. This time they got it right.
Even Perez nailed it!
He’s such a trip.
Darn you, Misster Hilton! I was still mad at you for dogging Ms. California like you did (even though I disagree with her and would side with you, you didn’t have to chide her for her beliefs. What if the shoe were on the other foot?) and then you go and say something like this, which is sweet and compassionate and just very very nice…
What am I going to do with you?!
“anti-choice lies about post-abortion syndrome” Boy isn’t that invalidating of many women’s abortion experiences, how very anti-woman of them.
WOW, those comments are nasty. What happened to “its the woman’s choice”. She CHOOSE not to abort and they attack her for CHOOSING? Oh wait, they attacked her for choosing LIFE!
I don’t think Perez was being nice, I think he was probably saying he didn’t like any of the other Kardashian’s so this new one would be the best of the bunch.
But then I’m a devout cynic.
Anyway, good for her, and best wishes to her and the baby.
Also…”TeresaCenric”…Then thinking back to what the Red Queen openly said about herself (“…an ego the size of Texas…”)…the list goes on…
Then thinking about a study that pro-choicers like to throw around by the American Psychological Association (which they take out of context, by the way, but I’ll give the quote that I’ve seen taking into account it IS out of context) that “…having one abortion was positively associated with higher global self-esteem, particularly feelings of self-worth, capability, and not feeling one is a failure…”
Have any of these researchers stepped back and thought that maybe the levels of “self-esteem” and “self-worth” and “capability” were beyond healthy levels? Perhaps just as some women cannot deal with the trauma of abortion and suffer post-abortion syndrome (which, by the way, the obviously skewed-and I say obviously because they refuse to acknowledge actual statistical data which presents a correlation between abortion and suicide-APA refuses to recognize as an actual condition) in the form of low self-esteem, suicidal thoughts, feelings of helplessness, remorse, ect…Perhaps there is an opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to Post-Abortion Syndrome with the opposite effects? I mean…these people seem to show appreciation for themselves nearly to the point of sociopathy…
Just a thought.
Ever think that the anger, bitterness and ugliness is all to COVER their post-abortion syndrome?
hmmmmm…. if you are too busy hating others and defending your own actions, you dont have time to feel anything else..
“”My doctor told me there is nothing you will ever regret about having the baby, but he was like, ‘You may regret not having the baby.’ ”
What a genius of an argument against all abortion and against all pro-abortionists.
The thing that struck me was when she said “so many of the reasons [she] had for not keeping the baby were selfish.” This is the point that I feel the pro-aborts might have a problem with too… Remember, they think an abortion is the unselfish thing to do because, after all, your husband might leave you and return to his home country in Africa and your mother might have to all but raise your children. And, since we don’t want to tie down a loser of a husband or burden our mother, we should probably go ahead and do the unselfish thing and have an abortion. Also, I, like another commenter, was still mad at Perez for being generally anti-life but hopefully even he has seen a bit of light here. One can hope and pray.
So, mrsclark –
You think they doth protest too much?
I tend to agree.
“Good to research your options, bad to fall for anti-choice claims of “post-abortion syndrome.”
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Even if it were true the prenatal child is not human, not a person, (which I do not for a moment concede) a woman could still have regrets about her decision not continue her pregnancy and have a baby. (We are not denying at the end of a pregnancy women give birth to babies, are we?)
All choices have consequences and if you choose one thing then you have to reject the alternative and over time you may regret your decision.
When feminista’s become apoplectic because some women choose not to have hairy armpits or hairy legs or hairy whatevers then it becomes evident their lofty claims of freedom of choice are the hollow slogans they always been.
What they are really advocating is that all females be required to think like they do. (Kind of like muslim extremists.)
(I had a friend who went to Israel on vacation and while he was there he went to the beach. He said he saw all these women layin there sunning themselves and most had not shaved under their arms. He said it looke like they had ‘Buckwheat in a headlock’.)
I think I could get over the body hair but the 5 o’clock shadow would cause me some problems.
I am thankful that GOD gave us razors and some women are still free to use them if they wish.
yor bro ken
I just love how these people claim to support choice, but when it comes right down to it, the only choice they really support is obviously abortion. They try so hard to convince people that they really do support both decisions…but when push comes to shove, this is ALWAYS their reaction and this is ALWAYS how they treat women who choose anything other than abortion. Only ONE choice can be tolerated in their world, and that is death.
That was a commendable thing that Kourtney did by sharing her story – she made a great case for the reason she chose life, and who knows how many people were affected by her story and chose life for their own babies as a result of hearing her statements!
Absolutely right, Bethany!
God bless you and your sweet baby, Kourtney!!
I won’t even bother to read any of the other nastiness. Read enough to last me a lifetime.
Women DO regret their abortions.
Many women regret their abortions. Many women do not.
Glad to hear that a woman exercised her choice to question, ask, feel…and then made the right choice for her, whether or not others would have made the same choice.
The end.
Good for Kourtney. I’m not a big Kardashian fan, but this one got my big thumbs up! It sounded to me like the regret wasn’t her ONLY reason for choosing life, either. “I can’t do that” isn’t really what you think when your mind is on the regret you might have later.
I’m curious as to whether she’s still pro-choice, from the sounds of her statement.
Abortion changes you, Danielle. It hurts physically, emotionally and spiritually. It hurts in ways many women deny.
Even reading I’m Not Sorry shows the regret and the pain and the What Could Have Been????
Nice to see you again, by the way. :)
As a regretful post abortive woman myself, I also regret not having a real doctor give me real advice back then. God bless Kourtney’s doctor.
If Obamacare comes down the pike, the girls going to the mills will not be hearing any advice, but a sales pitch to kill their baby.
What happened to “its the woman’s choice
Well, some choices are more equal than others.
Aw, muriel, carla, you just pull at my heartstrings so much!
You have my love!
Hi again Danielle,
How does abortion help women?
How does abortion heal women?
I have met the women you are talking about. The women that say they have no regrets about killing their own child.(That is what we are talking about right?)They are the ones that are swearing at me and spitting in my face and mocking the I Regret My Abortion sign that I am holding.
Yeah. You can see the peace and joy they are spreading around.
MaryRose,
Right back atcha!!
Hi Bethany 7:31PM
An excellent post. Also, one sees how Kourtney agnonized over her decision, was fearful, had and still has serious doubts, her mother was not overjoyed initially but is now. Gee, kind of sounds similiar to what millions of women, no matter what their circumstances, go through when experiencing a pregnancy, planned or unplanned.
Certainly if these people are such bastions of tolerance and so comfortable with their decision, they would not be spitting and swearing at Carla, but rather supporting and respecting her choice, from her own experience, to dissaude other women from making a similar mistake.
Do we spit and swear at former drug abusers trying to stop others from experimenting with drugs? Or do we commend these people who have lived through the the horror of addiction for wanting to spare others?
How does abortion help women? How does abortion heal women?I have met the women you are talking about. The women that say they have no regrets about killing their own child.(That is what we are talking about right?)They are the ones that are swearing at me and spitting in my face and mocking the I Regret My Abortion sign that I am holding.
Yeah. You can see the peace and joy they are spreading around.
Posted by: carla at August 24, 2009 9:40 PM
Hi Carla.
I’m tired, on my way to bed so please don’t read too much into my brevity. Plus, I feel like at this point its all been said, so…
“How does abortion help women? How does abortion heal women?”
-Abortion can help a woman who doesn’t want to be pregnant, have a child or be a mother. I’m not sure if its a healing process, but many things aren’t. Including having kids.
“I have met the women you are talking about. The women that say they have no regrets about killing their own child.(That is what we are talking about right?)They are the ones that are swearing at me and spitting in my face and mocking the I Regret My Abortion sign that I am holding.”
-Again. Some women regret it and some women don’t. Whether or not theyre sincere in their peace is only something they can know. And you can’t know any more than I can because you’re not her. I wish people would stop projecting their own experiences onto everyone else and assume that if they don’t have the same experience its somehow false because if it isn’t than negates your own.
I can say someone can regret it. It doesn’t change my viewpoint or support of abortion. I can’t work out why someone who is sanely, rationally pro life could not admit that there are women who don’t regret it – really, sincerely, deep down don’t regret it – and they’re not sad, hollow souls trapped in a Lifetime movie or something. I mean I know them. None of which would jump up in your face and swear at you. So why is this a zero sum game? whatever.
A woman who walks into an abortion clinic is already a mother. Her child is alive and growing inside of her. When she walks out her child is dead and she is wounded.
Good night, Danielle. Yeah. We have said it all to each other. The woman who regrets her abortion might be reading this right now and I want her to know that she is not alone.
I can know a person’s heart who is spitting and swearing at me. I already know what that bitterness and rage mean. I have met the other women you are talking about too. I have friends that tell me they don’t regret theirs. They are obsessive, on anti depressants, overweight, in counseling, and divorcing their husbands and live joyless lives. Connecting the dots back to abortion could start the healing.
Danielle,
Just curious, how many women do you know who carried the baby to term and later regretted it?
Seems to me, if abortion were helping women, there would be some women out there who felt like they could have used the help of abortion… I haven’t met them, and I’d really be intrigued at the least to hear about them.
Danielle,
You speak of choice. I’m curious as to why abortion advocates have fought informed consent tooth and nail. What are they so afraid of?
How does a woman truly make a choice without being thoroughly informed?
I would think true advocates of “choice” would be the first and loudest demanding informed consent.
Mary,
How come they fight all ultrasound legislation as well? Why don’t they want women to see the image of her child?
Why, Carla, don’t you know? They don’t know what to say!
I should share with them what my u/s tech (who was fantastic, btw) had to say. Maybe it could help.
Of course, they might not like the terms, “baby, heart, brain, fingers, toes, face…” I guess these terms seem to invoke the image of a human or something. Who knew? ;)
I was one of those women that told some people I was o.k. with that choice. I kept it a secret from family and friends. But my friends that would admit to me of being post-abortive, I would also confide in and we would wallow in our reasons and justifications.
I have lost many friends from the past that are still clinging to that mentality of “at least we had a choice”. They’ve asked me, “Don’t you want your own daughters to have that choice that you did?” I’ve answered with “No, I don’t, if abortion wasn’t legal I would have my daughter with me and possibly be a grandmother”. But I believe they are in denial especially if they are lucky enough to go on to have a child. Then they may begin to think of the potential of their first baby. The friendships I speak of have faded, but the symptoms were there. Eventually, these friends stopped calling me. I have tried to stay in touch with them but it’s hard because I guess I was a reminder to the pain of the past. Like Carla wrote, the life they live tells the story. It may be the prescriptions for anti-depressants, man hating, in therapy, always needing drama in their life for the adrenaline… whatever, I’m not a psychologist. I still pray and hope that one day they will call and tell me they have also found healing.
I think it boils down to this. I have met many, many women who were pro choice and had abortions that later grew to regret it and convert to be pro-life after realising abortion hurt them profoundly. I have never met a woman who was pro life and then went on to have an abortion and become an earnest pro choicer.
My heart breaks for the women that are stuffing it and I pray for them.
Muriel and Carla,
Years ago a CPC volunteer told me this story. A young woman visited the CPC. She was pregnant and desperate to keep a boyfriend who threatened to leave her if she had the baby.
Despite the best efforts of the volunteer, she had the abortion. The volunteer told her that no matter what, the door was always open and the young woman could always come to the volunteer should she ever need anything.
Weeks later the young woman called the volunteer, very distraught. Her boyfriend had left her (big surprise there) and she realized what a mistake she made. The volunteer saw her and offered her support and help, but became very fearful as the young woman slipped deeper into depression and began speaking of suicide. Realizing this woman needed help she couldn’t give her and fearing for her life, the volunteer arranged professional counselling and supported her through the months of therapy. Finally after several months of therapy, the young woman slowly began recovering. The volunteer was there every step of the way.
What would have happened to this young woman had the volunteer from one of those terrible CPCs that horribly abuse women not been there? Would someone from the abortion clinic offer her this kind of emotional support or just tell her she’d get over it?
Too many heartbreaking stories to count.
The women who will never conceive again and aborted the only child they would ever have. The women who changed their minds on the table, only to be held down and aborted anyway. The women who have bled to death. The women who were forced to abort the baby they wanted.
Danielle,
How does one woman saying, “I don’t regret my abortion!” refute any of these horrifying experiences from the abortions that “helped” these women?
“I just love how these people claim to support choice, but when it comes right down to it, the only choice they really support is obviously abortion. They try so hard to convince people that they really do support both decisions…but when push comes to shove, this is ALWAYS their reaction and this is ALWAYS how they treat women who choose anything other than abortion.”
I think Bethany’s statements sum up the reaction to Kourtney’s decision/choice.
In the minds of these rabid feminists, abortion is THE only choice for a “pregnancy”, especially as the world grows more and more resistant to women having ANY children.
If the people who support abortion were truly all about choice why are they so adamantly opposed to ultrasounds prior to the procedure? Why are they so against full disclosure of the medical risks associated with this “procedure”? And why is it that abortion providers in the province of Quebec, Canada vehemently and vociferously resisted the government bringing in operating room standards for abortion clinics to ensure safety for women?
Why because these people don’t care about women. They certainly don’t care about babies. They care about money. Bottom line:(more)dead babies = (more) profit.
Mary,
I am so thankful that young woman found hope and healing in abortion recovery!
It is really no big surprise that abortionists believe there are no risks in abortion. Who goes back there to where your baby died and asks for help for the nightmares, the depression, the suicidal thoughts, the attempts?? What would they have said to me if I had called up Meadowbrook Clinic and said that I was struggling after my abortion??
What would they have said to me if I had called up Meadowbrook Clinic and said that I was struggling after my abortion??
Posted by: carla Author Profile Page at August 25, 2009 7:20 AM
Maybe you should find out Carla? (only if you’re up to it though)
God bless you.
I never really thought much of the Kardashians – except for Kim’s, ah, figure – but I’ve got to say that Kourtney sounds like a thoughtful person.
It’s true, what her doctor says – the only people I’ve ever heard of who regretted having a baby and not an abortion had some very serious psychological issues, but many, many women regret having abortions, even if the regret didn’t catch up to them until several years later.
Now I sort of want to knit her a baby blanket, only I don’t know where to send it…
Mary Rose, thank you for the love!
Mary,
That sums it up. The mills want the money and only want to see you again if they can sell another abortion. CPC’s love them both for free, the mother and the child.
Okay all you pro-aborts! So to choose not to have an abortion based on other women’s VALID experiences is to base your decision on an anti-choice lie but to choose to have an abortion based on abortion propaganda (its liberating, its not a baby but a blob, there are no risks whatsoever, it doesn’t hurt) is making a sound decision? huh?
So all you hypocrite feminists–would you stand there and tell my friends (many who still claim to be pro-choice) that their experiences are anti-choice lies? Would you tell them their pain is contrived? Their regret is fake? Way to stand there for your sisters!!!!
I told my friend the same thing the doc told Kourtney. I told her that she had already had an abortion and regretted it. If she had another abortion it might make her feel worse but I told her she would never regret having her baby. EVER. Of course my 7 month old son was sitting in his stroller cooing and grinning at her. I think his baby smile melted her heart. She later confessed it was the moment she chose life for her daughter.
My own son was conceived while I was on the pill. I didn’t know the pill could cause an abortion. My little boy was unplanned but has brought me the most joy in my life!!! I can’t wait to be a mom again. Motherhood is a great privilege.
I don’t have any preconceived notions about the Kardashians. I don’t watch whichever show they’re on and I’m not familiar with them whatsoever. I just want to say GOOD FOR KOURTNEY for doing her due diligence, speaking to her doctor, and making the right choice. Although I don’t agree with sex before/outside of marriage, I’m thankful she didn’t add one sin to another by killing her child. And good for the boyfriend wanting to give life to his child.
And I agree – every time a high-profile person (or anyone else) chooses life for their child, the pro-“choice” people get all in an uproar. It is true – the only “choice” they support is ABORTION. People who choose life are horribly maligned for it. There’s no “choice” or “compassion” or “freedom” there. It’s abortion is the only right way or else feel the wrath of the feminists/pro-abortion folks! I think part of it may be that when people choose abortion it makes them feel that their position is O.K., but when people choose life they feel guilty. I think deep down, everyone knows what abortion is and how wrong it is, I just think that many people have completely put blinders on, deceived themselves, just will not admit it to themselves or anyone else.
Regarding the prayer request on a similar subject I put before all of you recently – I have a small update. I talked to my friend last night, and she did some research on her own about abortion injury and the (physical) risks of the procedure itself. Based on what she found, she said she will reccommend to her pregnant friend that she NOT go through with it. The boyfriend is still pressuring for the abortion, but my friend said that she could tell her pregnant friend really didn’t want to get one.
Please, keep on praying that this lady will not give in to her boyfriend and get the abortion she does not want. I know that the relationship won’t last even if she gets it, and I don’t wish for her to have the same life of pain and regret that so many other women have had after choosing abortion. I also will continue to pray that this lady realizes that she deserves a much better man than one that will use her for his own pleasure and abandon all responsibility when it comes time to own up to his part of any consequence there may be. Women deserve better than abortion and they deserve not to be used and then abandoned. I will also be praying that she realizes that there are others who love and care for her and her child and want to help her through this difficult time.
Also, prayers that she will experience God’s salvation, forgiveness, love, and grace will be on my list. No matter what, everyone needs it. :-)
Thanks for the prayers, everyone. I’ll update later on this week when my friend is supposed to call me again.
Yup. Women having an abortion always are making the right choice for the right reason. They are strong.
Women who think about choosing abortion and then choose life have made the wrong decision. They are weak and have been swayed by anti-choice lies.
Why do they keep calling themselves pro-choice?
Please see the website and the trailer:
http://www.bloodmoneyfilm.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaTywSDmls
armywife,
Still praying. Is there a Pregnancy Care Center near this friend? One phone call and she has support, encouragement and love.
God bless you for getting involved!!
http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org
So many stories…
“I wish people would stop projecting their own experiences onto everyone else and assume that if they don’t have the same experience its somehow false because if it isn’t than negates your own.”
Danielle,
If this statement were applied to several other situations, I would agree with you. Many times people dismiss the experiences of others, even entire groups, to support the narrative that aligns with their feelings/beliefs. But when it comes to losing an unborn child, the playing field isn’t so level and you can’t always take things at face value. Loss due to abortion, miscarriage, stillbirth, etc is often minimized and women are unable to experience healing. Because there is a lack of closure (no funeral, never meeting the child, family and friends fail to acknowledge the loss, heavily politicized, women often coerced by partner), it is very likely that women are burying their stunted feelings in denial or anger. Women who have experienced these losses and are now recovering KNOW about that denial. They know about suppressed grief, putting up a front.
I don’t think it’s about pressuring women to admit that they are suffering from an abortion experience so we can put a mark on the pro-life score card and say “see, told you so!” It’s about empathy for women. There’s something very visceral, very gut-churning, very humiliating, but also very silent about the way women try to cope with this type of loss. And yes, it’s true that perhaps some women are genuinely unaffected. But speaking from some level of experience, I find it more likely that most women are denying themselves the healing that comes from mourning their lost child, even when they claim otherwise.
I also believe that post-abortive women who remain pro-choice and don’t necessarily regret the abortion could benefit from resources and groups that allow them to be completely honest about their feelings and concerns. We’re talking about artificially thwarting a fundamental biological function – it seems like a safe assumption that this is likely to cause some level of damage. And with our culture’s seeming lack of curiosity in exploring the possible affects, my instinct tells me that there’s a lot of unseen negatives.
I still remember an interview with actress Valerie Bertinelli years ago. She had a miscarriage when she was trying to have a second child with then-husband Eddie Van Halen. She said “Even after having a miscarriage, I STILL believe in ‘choice’ for women. Wow…
My mother and I used to be volunteers at a CPC. The CPC was right in the middle of ‘gang territory’, so we eventually decided it was just not safe for two women to be there alone, so we stopped going. Shortly after we quit, the CPC was broken into TWICE. Computers were stolen, and ultrasound machines were vandalized. Someone donated more new equipment, and the same thing happened. I will still always cherish my time as a volunteer there. I LOVED being the one to do the pregnancy tests! When a positive result would show up, even before I told the mother, it was as if God and I were in on a little ‘secret’..we were the only ones who knew, right at that second in time, that a new life was on the way. :)
And you people would have said what, exactly, about Ms. Kardashian had she decided to abort?
dangerousdaisy,
That we were sorry for her decision, that it saddened us, that it was foreseeable considering that she’s surrounded by the proabort mentality.
But then, we don’t pretend to support abortion as a choice, so why would our reactions be a surprise?
It’s not like we would be hanging her out like prochoice advocates seem to be… Abortion saddens prolifers, whereas choosing life seems to enrage prochoicers.
Wow, they really turn on you if you actually choose. So glad she realized abortion would have been a CHOICE, not a necessity. Beautiful piece of honesty.
You don’t really know much about ‘us people’, do you, Dangerousdaisy?
‘you people’ and ‘that one’ have the same kind of insinuating, bigotted ‘thud’ when they are thrown against the wall of polite conversation.
And then those words start their sickeningly slowmotion slide down the wall, leaving a trail of slime not unlike a slug slithering slothfully across your front door step.
yor bro ken
Pamela,
With my four children I did the same thing. I looked at the positive pregnancy test and God and I just sat in wonder together. :)
And you people would have said what, exactly, about Ms. Kardashian had she decided to abort?
DangerousDaisy, you already know what we would say because we don’t pretend to be on both sides of the issue. We are very honest about our position.
That is the difference between our position and the position of these so called “pro-choicers” who are nothing but pro-death.
They lie and pretend that they would support either choice, but when it comes right down to it, they only support one. They despise life. Period.
kbhvac, “slug slithering slothfully ”
Say that three times fast. :D
Carla,
That’s really beautiful.
I, on the other hand, looked at the positive pregnancy test with my first and looked to God in that, “Uh, your timing isn’t as off as it seems to be, I hope” sort of way. Can’t say I’m especially fond of my reaction, but it was very… genuine… of me. When you don’t have money, or don’t have ‘a plan’ for that child, that pregnancy test being positive can certainly be a frightening thing at first. I found that in my case, God was constantly reassuring me on His timing. We didn’t get sudden cash flow, but my husband hugged me and smiled, my parents and siblings practically started dancing, and my in-laws opened their hearts and their wallets for us while we needed it.
And I took about 12 pregnancy tests over the course of that pregnancy, first to make sure I hadn’t gotten a false positive, and later to confirm that everything was running along smoothly. What’s funny is, each time, looking at that positive pregnancy test, my heart became more restful.
Sorry to blab. Your post was so… at peace… and my experience was so chaotic… I guess I felt a pull to share… just in case… I don’t know. Call me silly ;)
Ok. My circumstances were chaotic with a couple of those pregnancies. Two of my children were born with no insurance and a husband out of a job. I got pregnant with one when our marriage was on the rocks. But I did love sharing my secret with just God before I told anyone.:)
Wow. Just thinking, by a proaborts standards I should have aborted at least 3 of my kiddoes.
You fell for the anti-choice hype, Carla, and now you have to live with it. :P
You did too, Bethany. So there! :)
LOL, you two! :D
Carla,
I’m really glad that you were able to enjoy the secret with God before sharing it. I got the same moment with this second pregnancy. It’s a wonderful moment to have!
I guess my point in telling my experience was that I didn’t feel joy at the first positive pregnancy test, particularly… I know that sounds callous, and I love my son completely, but I just didn’t *want* to see a positive. I wanted to be proven right, to not be pregnant. And when I saw the pregnancy test, I in my arrogance, questioned the timing. I remember thinking, “This has to be a mistake. I’m not supposed to be pregnant!”
And then I trudged out of the bathroom, walked to my husband, said, “I have something I need to show you,” and brought him to see the pregnancy test… and at THAT point, I felt God’s wonder, and His plan working in my life. Because when I’d expected an “Oh, no. What are we going to do?” what I got was a “Wow! Yeah!” and a big smile.
I guess I’m just saying, you don’t have to feel wonder and/or joy at that positive pregnancy test to have a positive pregnancy, or to end up with the greatest gift you can receive…
I so get that as well, MaryRose. My dismay and fear led to my abortion.
Usually the sentiments that do it… dismay, fear, anger… :(
Aren’t we fortunate to have Christ, to wash away all of that and leave us with peace and joy and love! :)
He is the only reason I am alive. He rescued me, saved me and healed me!
kbhvac, “slug slithering slothfully ”
Say that three times fast. :D
Posted by: Bethany at August 25, 2009 10:20 PM
once you’ve done that, drop the “s” and try saying it 3x even faster!
What boggles my mind is how insensitive these people are to those who’ve had abortions they regret. Even if I thought it was possible that Vietnam vets were faking post-traumatic stress syndrome, I certainly wouldn’t go around blabbing about it; as if they have any expertise on the subject. Their calousness and insensitivity are indescribable. And to think that these are many of the same people who claim to be tolerant and open-minded. What a friggin joke!!!
“What boggles my mind is how insensitive these people are to those who’ve had abortions they regret.”
Tom, I wish it boggled my mind, but it doesn’t. Post-abortive women who regret their abortion are a huge inconvenience to the pro-choice movement and their favored rhetoric. It would be practically impossible to truly acknowledge the devastation so many women experience and still support the act that causes the suffering. If they became sensitive to the suffering, they would want to end the suffering. Insensitivity is essential to the abortion narrative. The crowd that believes that the unborn are mere clumps of cells unworthy of protection cannot also believe that removing these clumps of cells could cause such agony.
Thanks for all of your stories. Army Wife I am praying for your friend’s friend and her preborn baby to be given the chance for life. I hope she will consider at least an open adoption if she cannot take care of her baby. All of my family members who aborted regret their “choice” and suffered terribly until God healed them. Some put up with horrible abuse trying to placate their former boyfriends, had such low self-esteem feeling that they didn’t deserve to be treated with love and respect so they put up with even more abusive boyfriends and cried themselves to sleep many nights. God help all the hurting post-abortive women to find healing.
I applaud Kourtney for choosing LIFE! I too am a post-abortive woman who is so thankful for my relationship with Jesus and because of that I realized I needed forgiveness and healing. If I didn’t care about my relationship with Christ then I probably wouldn’t have cared about that choice to abort that I made 24 years ago. God created us in His own image – He created those babies in the womb in His own image! Visit http://www.whispersfromthewomb.com The poem “Please Mommy Please” has been part of my testimony since 2001. If only I had heard those words then maybe I would have chose LIFE.
God Heals and Forgives – All we have to do is ask!
They are wrong about the “post abortion trauma”.
I know. I had 2 abortions when I was much younger and every time I think about it I feel like the biggest murderer that ever walked the face of this earth. I really had no qualms back then. To summarize there are zero decisions in life that can be reversed; there are some the ramifications are so severe they will haunt you until the day you die.
No, I was not paid to write this. Just the voice of experience talking.
Good for her, someone told her what I wish to God someone would have told me.
Tina and Vic,
Thank you for sharing your stories. My abortion was almost 19 years ago. We are not alone. I am so grateful to you for coming here. I will be praying for you. That God continue to use your voice to help others that have bought the lies that abortion “helps” women.
God bless you!!
Vic,
You can find peace. Jesus forgives and heals and He hung on the cross for the sin of our abortions. He can and will wash you as white as snow. He is the only one who can.
He took away my shame. I will live with the regret but I walk in the light of His love.
Email me if you would like.
Having a baby is always pro-choice. You CHOOSE to have sex and sex is how babies are made. Don’t want a baby don’t have sex, simple as that.And your right to Choose is fully protected.
Thank you, Jeremy for that reminder. I found it amusing right after 3 post abortive women shared their hearts.
On my 3rd pregnancy (in 4 years!), I reacted to the positive test with anger – I didn’t want that result at that time. When I told my husband, his response was, “Well, we always wanted another child.”
I was really annoyed at what I took to be his cavalier response. I called a friend, a mother of 4 in 4 years, and vented.
Her response? She pointed out the many women who were afraid to tell the father; those men who reacted with a hostile attitude, and acted like it was all the woman’s fault. She pointed out that a man who treated the news with a welcoming attitude was NOT the worst thing in the world.
I got the point, and changed my attitude quick.