Planned Parenthood involved in sex trafficking cover-ups?
UPDATE 8:20a: Bryan Howard, btw, is the Planned Parenthood staffer who asked President Obama this question at that infamous 2007 PP fundraiser:
Bryan Howard: Senator Obama, thank you for being here today.
Senator Obama: Thank you, Bryan.
Bryan Howard: Um, you know that rights and access and rights and ability have to go hand in hand. Um, and we know that health care reform is an important part of your agenda. Could you talk – and give us some specifics about how reproductive health care and women’s health care is going to fit into and be a part of primary care for women in your health care reform plans and how PP, as a safety net provider, will continue to be a part of the health care safety net for women and families across the country.
Bryan didn’t specify PP is apparently a “safety net provider” for child sex traffickers.
6:55a: Accompanying some very nice model portfolio shots of Arizona Planned Parenthood CEO Bryan Howard came an Associated Press story last night, “AP Exclusive: Planned Parenthood seeks FBI probe.”
What apparently has happened is sex clean-up workers in various PP abortion mills around the country have realized after kibitzing about a patient that they’ve been stung again by Lila Rose and LiveAction.org, as recently as January 11-15, according to the AP.
What Lila and her team do is no different than what MSM investigative teams or Ashton Kutcher do. Lila’s undercover work is totally legal. She only conducts it in states where the videotaping party does not have to notify the other party to smile for the camera. Lila has never, in all these years, been accused of illegal activity.
PP knows this but is trying to preempt Lila this time by breaking the story first, and with its own spin.
And it’s very good spin. One has to read the story a couple times to understand PP didn’t call the FBI on Lila but rather in a belated attempt to appear on the up-and-up.
According to the AP story, the scenario this time involved “a man purporting to be a sex trafficker” who “requested information about health services for sex workers, including some who he said were minors and in the U.S. illegally.”
This sounds like the PP parallel to James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles’ ACORN sting.
Imagine if workers at any of the 12 abortion mills PP claims Live Action punked indeed offered to help the trafficker get abortions, STD treatment, and/or contraceptives for his illegal, minor sex slaves.
Well, guess what, apparently they did. According to the AP Lila responded, “The story that speaks loudest will be in the evidence. I can’t comment until we release the visual evidence.”
Can’t wait. And guess what again, I’ve been told a little about the “visual evidence,” and it’s utterly appalling, Lila’s most explosive exposure yet of the filthy disgusting abortion biz that is Planned Parenthood.
In an attempt to put the toothpaste back in the tube, the AP reported that…
… Last week, Planned Parenthood… president Cecile Richards wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder summarizing the visits and requesting an FBI investigation. If the man’s assertions were true, she wrote, they would indicate possible violations of federal laws dealing with interstate sex trafficking of minors.
And what if PP workers were caught on video offering to aid and abet such a man? Wouldn’t they, too, be breaking federal laws?
It’s too bad Lila’s videos aren’t part of federal investigations but only citizen journalism.
All Lila does is expose PP to the world as filthy slime that exploits girls and women in the worst ways for filthy profits.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Howard cracks me up in these photos. The drama! Are we supposed to be in awe of this man? For shame… a real man protects the helpless and innocent.
I am terribly interested to find out if this was another LiveAction sting. If so, this could get very entertaining indeed.
Go, Lila, go! :)
I think it’s interesting you left out Lila’s comment:
“Rose has said her goal is to unnerve Planned Parenthood employees…’We need to help them feel that fear.'”
I am disheartened that, if this was liveaction, Lila is abusing the situation of girls in sex trafficking.
Kushie, if it turns out PP showed intent to cover up child sex slavery, and you continue at that point to blame Lila for uncovering PP’s intent, you’re saying you prefer foreign, illegally smuggled 11-yr-olds to be pimped out – with all its ramifications – rather than PP stopped.
“I am disheartened that, if this was liveaction, Lila is abusing the situation of girls in sex trafficking.”
That’s right. Shoot the messenger. It is okay for PP to facilitate the situation of girls in sex trafficking, but it is wrong to tattle on PP’s involvement. Kushie, do you think that a pregnant girl who is a sex slave is better off getting the abortion at PP even if that means she will continue to be forced to be a prostitute?
I am disheartened that, if this was liveaction, Lila is abusing the situation of girls in sex trafficking.
Oh, yes, absolutely. It’s so terrible to try and catch human traffickers and put them out of business. Nobody should ever do that.
You are upset because Lila has a main goal of ending abortion and this sting–if it is a LiveAction sting–would be part of an outreach of that mission. The fact that it has the potential to destroy one arm of sex slavery is apparently less important to you than making sure pro-lifers never enjoy any successes.
You’re absolutely disgusting.
The Chicago morgue has become so crowed bodies are being double stacked.
In a related story democRAT candidate for mayor Rahm Immanuel is already predicting a record voter turnout.
In a just world (in which we do not live, unfortunately) Attorney General Eric Holder would arrest Cecile Richards and charge her with a million counts of prenatal homicide.
Planned Parenthood has killed over a million children since she has been running the organization. Bryan Howard would go too as he has killed thousands of human beings in Tucson, far, far more human beings than Jared Loughner killed.
The unending criminal destruction of human life by Planned Parenthood is the true horror.
Character is doing whats right even when no-one is videotaping you.
Lack of character is whining that you were entraped.
This is a simple concept.
Lila is the same age some of our children would be if they were not dead.
God bless Lila and all her generation.
Love it! Go Lila!
Aubrey would be 20, Ninek.
Go Lila!!
Oh and the “stud” poses in front of PP?? Yeah. Keepin it classy.
What are those pics supposed to be? Planned Parenthood GQ?
Watched the ProLifeCon (well, half of it) last night online. Lila Rose is incredibly smart and articulate. She and others like her are a force to be reckoned with.
I thought abortion wasn’t a man’s issue. I was reading some HuffPo comments (Cecile Richards’ ridiculous and reactionary Roe v. Wade post)….and any pro-life man who commented was shot down with “You’re a man, this is none of your business, you can’t get pregnant.”
And those pictures are LOL. LOLOLOLOL
And Kushie…..instead of being outraged at the sex traffickers, you’re outraged at the person who exposed this, because she’s pro-life? You’re not for CHOICE, your just for abortion, period.
If Lila Rose worked to end sex trafficking, I would absolutely support her in that.
Planned Parenthood is not a “pimp.” It is a healthcare center. Whatever Lila did at PP, if she was involved in this, will not expose any pimp or save any girls from being sex trafficked.
A ‘healthcare center’ with a known record of aborting underage girls and sending them back to their abusers/pimps and then covering it up, which you fully support, moonbat. Lying for Jesus again?
There you go, KM, backtrack. That’ll really save face.
If PP is involved in covering up sexual slavery by aborting the evidence, then, yes, exposing them may indeed save girls from being sex trafficked. At the very least, it would mean that PP had evidence of underage sexual abuse that they did not report to the authorities. Again.
But you just keep on defending them. Stay the course, KM.
Hi KM.
To call PP a healthcare center in this context is essentially question begging because that is precisely what Lila is out to disprove. In other words, her claim is that while perhaps PP does some good things, they are heavily involved with things that would not be considered healthcare, even in teh mind of those who support legalized abortion. An organization that masquerades as a helathcare center which also does some pimp work is still a pimp nonetheless. Of course, I am not claiming necessarily that it is involved in this, but I wait to see if Lila has evidence to support her claim, as we all should be doing.
The statue in the last picture makes me think of some of the fertility statues you hear about. I don’t know exactly what those look like, but that’s what I thought of when I saw that statue. I find it morbidly ironic that a place that aborts babies, which are the result of a woman’s fertility, would have a statue like that out in front.
Mother, I thought something similar, except ancient fertility statues don’t have the flat abdomens of adolescent boys.
KMoon, I’m sure all the minors who are being abused are just thrilled that you’d throw them under the bus to avoid any trouble for poor little Planned Parenthood. Nice.
Interesting that the AP photo posted in this story has enough resolution so that you can read PP’s whole donation-begging poster, including the website. Good old balanced media!
Planned Murderhood.
Don’t you just feel a tingle of electricity, of excitement, at the thought of your daughter finally having her turn at visiting the “Health Care and Reproductive Health” center, “Planned Murderhood,” AKA, “Planned Parenthood.”
Do they do anything which actually helps people have children, which helps people reproduce children? Their own material reveals that they exist to prevent Parenthood, hence, “Parenthood Prevention” is their modus operandi, and their mission. Of course, once you ARE a parent, meaning, once you have reproduced, you can “get it fixed,” or “taken care of,” or “get rid of,” or “aborted,” by their medical rapists/medical assassins/medical hit-men or women, who cheerfully, lovingly, slaughter, burn, and otherwise aggress violently against, and kill, tiny, new human beings (babies.)
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If not, then the moniker “Planned Parenthood” is nonsense, and the monikers, “Planned avoidance of Parenthood,” or, for their high volume of abortions, “Planned Murderhood” fits much better.
Of course, if one wishes to split hairs and be technical, killing people isn’t “Murder” unless the act is considered so under the law. Thanks to the custom established since Roe v Wade and Doe v Bolton, the law does not ban the slaughter of new human beings in their earliest stages of development – the embryonic stage, the fetal stage, and the early neonatal stage. As a result, slaughtering babies via elective abortion is permitted by law, just as slavery was permitted by law here in the USA at one time, and still occurs in other parts of the world, such as North Africa and Asia
Planne Parenthood (regardless if it’s Live Action or not) has been exposed. This is a piece of journalism that’s just like any other investigative piece where discreet taping is allowed.
I do not understand the crticism of Live Action. If you really care about women you should applaud whomever has expose this racket. The fact that this took place at Planned Parenthood further exposes the fact that they do not really care about women. Arguements about patient confidentiality are ridiculous!
Whether abrtions are performed or not, Planned Parenthood has the legal obligation to report it, but its focus on the bottom line will not allow it to do that.
As for PP being a legitimate community based health non-profit? This is purely a money grab. There are still many title 10 legitimate health clinics in many of the areas PP operates that do not perform abortions. There desire is to drive them out of business and corner the market on women’s “health care”.
It was quite interesting how Richards kept trying to create connections between the Live Action visits and the recent Tucson shooting in the AP article. They are completely grasping at straws in order to avoid damaging evidence.
Leslie, I noticed that too, that they said someone doing an investigative piece a week after the shooting shows ‘how far they are willing to go.’ Oh, really? Golly, should all investigative journalism suspend it’s activities after a shooting? A shooting of whom? and for how long? Maybe 20/20 could go on sabbatical for a few weeks next time there’s a big news story about violence, huh? Or maybe the New York Times could just publish a few reprints instead of any new news for a few weeks following a shooting. But who’s shooting? There’s violence all over the world every day; when should we start counting?
” Lila responded, “The story that speaks loudest will be in the evidence. I can’t comment until we release the visual evidence.””
Why not release the alleged evidence right now? Could it be because, like O’Keefe, Rose needs time to dishonestly edit the tapes to make innocent people appear guilty?
Have you watched the Live Action videos, JohnnyC? When you do, get back to us and let us know just how “dishonestly edited” you believe they are.
Will Rose release the entire unedited tapes? Seems unlikely given that she has not done so immediately once her subterfuge was exposed.
@JohnnyC: Actually, LiveAction does indeed keep the entire unedited tapes and will usually send someone the whole thing if they email a request. The reason they don’t put the whole thing up on YouTube is because it’s usually really boring for most of the time and only interesting for a few minutes. I’m not really all that interested in what color the waiting room was painted, are you?
So let me get this straight:
1. Your “sting” is little more than an episode of What Would You Do?
2. You claim that Planned Parenthood is covering up nonexistent sex traffickers as proof that they’re bad people. Even though there were no sex traffickers and they called the cops afterward.
3. You accuse Planned Parenthood of damage control instead of being concerned for the lives of exploited children.
4. You present no evidence of any of this.
Hmmmm….
Patience, St Jimmy. Patience.
Your entire plot was cockamamie at best. The Three Stooges could have done better job. What in the world would make you think that PP wouldn’t POSSIBLY alert authorities when confronted by a possible illegal sex trafficking ring is beyond me. This whole scenior was just ridiculous and beyond amateurish.
Hi Russell,
Before you have even seen ANY footage you have judged it?? I would call that foolish.
You and St Jimmy have to wait it out just like the rest of us. Sorry.
I love how Russell and St Jimmy have us mixed up with LiveAction’s website. Lila isn’t here, guys! As far as I know, she doesn’t comment on this blog!
And it may be that PP did do the right thing, but didn’t do it on tape. After all, I wouldn’t tell the sex trafficking fiend I was about to call the cops on my whole plan to his face. And if that happened, I’m sure this will come out as well. If it didn’t happen, then that’s really the kind of thing people should know about, honestly.
But this would be fun. What if…Lila’s latest undercover plan has nothing to do with any of this and is actually something none of us know about yet. After all, she hasn’t confirmed anything. She’s implied that she’s working on something, but we don’t know it was this. There’s a lot of gun-jumping and wild speculation going around.
@Alice,
If Ms Rose isn’t busily dishonestly editing the tapes, why not release them right now, while this whole episode is in the news? Could it be because they won’t show PP staffers doing anything wrong, until after the editing? Given her association with O’Keefe and the dishonest way he edited his infamous ACORN pimp videos it seems likely.
I think it’s funny that people asking for proof are getting flamed, but the one’s who agree without question aren’t.
Have you ever WATCHED any of them? One of the comments on here said you can email Liveaction and get the unedited tapes…if that’s true, then just go ahead and email LiveAction and ask for an unedited version.
I am patiently waiting for proof. I usually wait, watch and then make up my mind. But that’s just me.
Maybe you are one of those that has already made up their mind about Lila Rose and Liveaction. Won’t really matter what the tapes are like then will it, St Jimmy?
@JohnnyC: So, knowing that Lila does release the full videos along with the edited ones, you have not simply gone to LiveAction and emailed them a request for one of their prior releases so that you can compare the edited with unedited and decide for yourself how dishonest they were or not. Nor are you waiting for whatever they’re doing now to be released and then requesting the unedited version of that video. You are, instead, posting here–where no one from LiveAction will see it, in all probability–calling names.
I suppose that might give you faux-moral satisfaction, but I am unimpressed. If you want to know what LiveAction has to say for themselves, go talk to them!!! They have a website. Google is your BFF. Either way, stop whining about it to us.
@Alice, making a lot of assumptions there aren’t you?
I have already emailed LiveAction requesting the full unedited videotapes from this escapade, no response yet.
I have merely pointed out that, save editing to alter tapes, there is no logical reason that Rose has to not already released the tapes. This story has been in the press for a week, longer than it took PP to report the bogus “sex traffickers” to the FBI, why the delay?
Also, I might find your admonitions to not jump to conclusions laughable, since they come on a post where Stanek, has already labeled PP as assisting in the cover-up of sex trafficking without any supporting evidence whatsoever! I might worry about my alleged “faux-moral satisfaction” but I have a hard time seeing it through all the faux-moral preening coming from your side.
Don’t worry, sweetheart, I know how to use the google and have even been to LiveAction’s website, they are so far mum on their dishonest escapades, which as we all know have nothing to do with trying to ” catch human traffickers and put them out of business”. But if such faux-moral posturing makes you feel better, knock yourself out.
@JohnnyC: Gee, I dunno. Perhaps they are editing them into short versions and will release the unedited at the same time as the short one. You know, like they’ve done every single prior time they had a video release. ‘Cause–assuming it is LiveAction–that might qualify as a “logical reason”…maybe…if you lived in Not-Jumping-To-Conclusions-Because-I-have-A-Political-Agenda Land with the rest of us.
Also, do not attribute Jill’s suspicions, allegations, allusions, or conclusions to me. I am not her. She is not me. If you’re having trouble telling the difference, then you should remember that I’m the one with the little blue flower and she’s the one posting the blog entries.
@Alice,
If you are going to try snark, you should really step up your game.
I noted Stanek’s egregious jumping to conclusions because, while jumping all over me, you failed to address hers at all. Note the dishonest title of this post. So far all we have any evidence to support is that PP REPORTED possible sex-trafficking to the FBI, yet in Stanek’s distorted world, they were involved in cover-ups. You fail to address this issue at all, a fact that I find telling in light of your attacks on me for questioning LiveAction’s failure to produce the alleged “evidence” in a timely manner. Reading comprehension is your friend, it would enable you to clearly see that I have not attributed any of Stanek’s claims to you, and to realize that I am obviously quite clear on you and she being separate people.
JohnnyC,
Are you trying to say that you’ve seen no evidence of Planned Parenthood malfeasance re: covering up the abortion of minors, in the past, at all? This is completely new and out-of-the-blue to you (somewhat akin to someone claiming that Rev. Billy Graham sells Popsicle stick art on the black market, or something)? Heavens, I don’t even own a TV, and even I know about the dozens of incidents (including lawsuits) involving Planned Parenthood in that very thing.
And (your snark aside), since your comments to Alice about “knowing how to use Google” don’t seem to have translated into *actualizing* that ability in this instance, here are a few links for your convenience:
http://www.childpredators.com/Footnotes.cfm#_edn26
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/1/pph/index2.php
http://www.lifenews.com/2009/10/06/nat-5548/
Now… given that PP has such a sundry record, and since it’s been caught red-handed in so many instances, is it really logical of you to dismiss Lila’s claim out-of-hand? I’m also a bit baffled as to what sort of “editing” you think might result in the videos that were published. Are you insinuating merely that necessary context is being edited out? Or are you suggesting that Lila has hired voice-actors to record entirely new and false material? I’m genuinely curious, here.
Wow, Paladin, you found a bunch of biased sites presenting lies as news! How impressive. Shame you aren’t able to discern a real news site from an agenda driven political site.
I think there must be a special place in hell for the folks at http://www.childpredators.com, who do nothing to stop actual child predators, but merely callously use the issue for their political agenda. Part of *actualizing* the Google is having the intelligence to discern reputable sites from dishonest sights pushing a political agenda, massive fail on your part.
What do I think Lila is doing with the alleged videotapes? Well, her buddy O’Keefe did voice-overs on the infamous ACORN tapes, to make it seem as if the employees were responding to different questions than the ones actually asked in the tapes. You might try *actualizing* the Google and educating yourself on the type of people you are supporting.
Wait… can someone please explain to me why LiveAction would have preferred for PP to deny this man help when he asked for it? If girls are in as terrible a situation as sex slavery, does that mean we should deny them STD treatment, or whatever help they desire, by claiming to condemn sex trafficking in doing so? These staffers were just trying to help girls that need help. They were not selling girls. They were not buying girls. They aren’t involved in any illicit activity. Why should they not offer treatment to those that ask for it?
Are you serious?
Well good golly Miss Molly I do believe that sex trafficking of young girls is ILLEGAL, Kunoor!!
A 13 year old who is being forced to have sex against her will I would think needs OUT, don’t you?? REPORT IT!! Call the police, free the girls, get them to safety and then get them all the help they need.
So Carla, I assume you applaud PP’s actions in this instance. After all, when confronted with a possible sex trafficking ring they REPORTED it! As far as we know there were never any 13 year girls involved in this escapade. But I see nothing to indicate that PP would allow a 13 year old to be victimized.
Not applauding, since I haven’t seen any footage yet. Have you?
DID they report it to the proper authorities that they suspected illegal activity involving young girls being sex trafficked OR do you mean the phone call they made to the FBI to report a possible STING?
I am hoping that PP did the right thing but since they do not report sexual predators of little girls either I am not feeling all that optimistic.
We know that PP reported suspicious activity to the FBI, from the AP story:
“Last week, Planned Parenthood Federation of America president Cecile Richards wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder summarizing the visits and requesting an FBI investigation. If the man’s assertions were true, she wrote, they would indicate possible violations of federal laws dealing with interstate sex trafficking of minors.”
And you read this as they only reported the possibility of a stunt by Lila Rose and her flying monkeys? Are suggesting the FBI is not the proper authority to report a possible interstate ring of sex trafficking in underage girls? Reading Comprehension is your friend, Carla, I suggest you get better acquainted.
Hmmmmm. Yeah. That is good advice JohnnyC. Thank you so much.
That couldn’t be from some “agenda driven political site” could it? LOL
Carla,
Lo comprendo y tu lo comprendes. It WILL be interesting to see if PP contacted LOCAL authorities immediately. Time will tell.
@Carla Are you seriously contending that the Associated Press is an agenda-driven site along the lines of LifeSite, ChildPredators and the SPLC designated hate group TVC? Give me a break.
@Janet, Why does it matter whether the local authorities were contacted or not? Wouldn’t an inter-state child sex trafficking ring be a federal matter? Wouldn’t the appropriate authority be the FBI? We all know you love to get your hate on about PP, but this is some serious desperate grasping at straws.
Are suggesting the FBI is not the proper authority to report a possible interstate ring of sex trafficking in underage girls?
That’s not the real issue. The issue is whether PP complied with local mandated reporting laws. Notifying the FBI about the possibility of a federal crime isn’t the same thing as promptly notifying local authorities of the suspicion of abuse of a minor so that immediate intervention can be made on behalf of the victim.
At least one of the states mentioned in the article requires an IMMEDIATE oral report to LOCAL authorities. Did the PP clinic in that state make a prompt local report? If so, I commend them. If not, then it’s fair to ask questions about their failure to follow the same statutes that other mandated reporting facilities are expected to follow.
Why does it matter whether the local authorities were contacted or not?
Because if there is the POSSIBILITY that a minor is a victim, it’s important to take steps IMMEDIATELY. 99.9% of the time, that happens on a local, not a federal level. I’m a mandated reporter, and yes, I have talked to the feds. But those guys are never my first call. My first call is to get help ASAP for the victim. Federal reports can usually wait a few hours. Local reports, where the mandated reporter may be the one chance to get help for someone, need to be made ASAP not hours or days later when there are fewer opportunities to intervene and get help for the victim. There are any number of things PP could have done to assist local authorities, but to spell them out here would be to post a little primer online for would-be abusers, so I won’t do that.
You anti-abortion activists will make stuff up to use against us
All the more reason for PP to make local reports that demonstrate compliance with the law, thereby making a would-be punker will look foolish.
We all know you love to get your hate on about PP, but this is some serious desperate grasping at straws.
JohnnyC,
I don’t have my “hate on”; I’m concerned about sex-traffickers getting away with illegal activities, no matter which company or individuals are involved. Hopefully all the local reporting laws were followed. I haven’t seen any tapes; I’m not a legal expert, just waiting for the truth to come out.
JohnnyC,
I am not serious if I write LOL.
Pay attention.
Brian,
”Arguements about patient confidentiality are ridiculous!”
They are NOT. Its a federal law call Health Information Privacy Portablablity act or HIPPA. This privacy act was created so that people have privacy when going to see a doctor. This is for ALL people who see a doctor. Whether it be Joe the plumber or an inmate in prision, the FEDERAL law still stands.
Johnny C and St Jimmy, thank you both, very well put.
Jill,
Planned Parenthood is a HEATH CARE CENTER. In addition, to do pap smears, breast exams, dispensing prescrptions, blood pressure cheacks, blood glucose (that’s part of checking for possible diabetes for those not in the health care field) etc, they do everything that an OB/GYN would do. I fail to see carenet doing anything besides, handing them a picture and blanket with the number to the welfare line.
Alice,
for there to be any kind of evidence the “tapes” should be unedited.
Planned Parenthood immediately reported a possible sex traffic ring to the Attorney General. One woman, at one clinic appeared to support the people perpetrating a hoax and she was fired. C’mon, when Dr. Tiller was killed, all the pro-life people danced away from his murderer saying they couldn’t control the actions of one individual. Unless you are hypocrites, you will need to give Planned Parenthood the same courtesy.
Camille, you should probably go to LiveAction’s website and view all their videos from Planned Parenthoods across the country.
When an abortionist is caught lying on tape about fetal development, you can be pretty sure it wasn’t an accident, and thanks to the testimony of many post-abortive women, we know it is widespread.
Planned Parenthood immediately reported a possible sex traffic ring to the Attorney General.
Immediately? Reporting a 5 day trend to the feds is NOT an immediate response. Most of us would be severely disciplined by our licensing boards or have our licenses revoked if we waited days to report possible abuse of a minor or failed to notify LOCAL law enforcement AT ONCE.
I do not need to extend “courtesy” to Planned Parenthood. They prey on women in crisis and murder children.
Oh and everything else Kel said!!
The saddest thing about this is the fact that so many people really don’t seem to understand that PP is more than an abortion provider. Yes, they provide abortions, a legal medical procedure. They also provide free and low cost contraceptives, OB/GYN services, prenatal and postnatal care, education, STD treatments, and a variety of other services to many poor, working class, and middle class women who would otherwise go without. They also have prevented many abortions by offering contraceptives and education, preventing unwanted pregnancies.
Getting rid of PP will not stop abortions, only take away an organization that provides services to populations that would otherwise be unserved. I find it disgusting that seems to be little understanding of the needs for affordable reproductive health services in many areas and that organizations and individuals are willing to harm many to serve their own personal ideologies. Why not work to create an environment that limits the need for abortion rather than increase the need for abortions (and increase the instances of botched, homemade abortions, abandoned babies, and abused children).
They also provide free ………
LOL. In one of today’s vids, the PP staffer wasted no time stating they didn’t provide free services. I heard the PP staffer say where freebies were available–and it WASN’T PP.
LOL. In one of today’s vids, the PP staffer wasted no time stating they didn’t provide free services. I heard the PP staffer say where freebies were available–and it WASN’T PP.
Which means they point people in the direction of free services. But this doesn’t discount the importance of even that particular service. And some PPs do offer free condoms and STD testing.
I’m still shaking my head over this ‘PP sex trafficking cover up’. Honestly, lets use some critical thinking: a pimp, who is engaged in an illegal activity, is not going to go to a public agency to get services for his girls. Especially not if he is running underage girls. Sex traffickers, like any other criminal, will keep their activity on the low. Taking girls to PP is too risky because they don’t have control of the situation and there’s too many chances of exposure. People who deal in trafficking have whole networks set up – these aren’t off the cuff operations- and they thrive on maintaining secrecy.
This would be more legitimate if there was no sex trafficking angle and they went in with some just pretending to me an average, if underage, girl trying to obtain an abortion. But that wouldn’t make for good shock value.
This would be more legitimate if there was no sex trafficking angle…
The question isn’t whether LA’s angle was legit. It’s whether PP’s RESPONSE to LA’s angle was legit. If it was as obvious as you suggest, why didn’t all the PP sites turn the tables on LA and call law enforcement on the spot?
Sex traffickers, like any other criminal, will keep their activity on the low.
Oh please. There are plenty of criminals who don’t have covert networks and in fact, utilize walk-in sites. But again, the point isn’t how likely it is that a trafficker will walk into PP. It’s how appropriately PP responds when a self-reported trafficker does walk in.
Which means they point people in the direction of free services.
So do a lot of other settings that don’t seem to require millions of taxpayer dollars to do it.
Hi TB,
Where do pimps take their underage sex slaves? Where do they take their little girls for STD testing, birth control and abortion? Where does the pimp take his girls to clean them up and then force them to be raped for $$$$$$$$$$?
It’s all on the up and up right?
Full on sex traffickers will either a) bring some one in or b) take them to a free clinic that is usually understaffed and not as well organized. Again, in the video, they’re talking about underage, foreign girls. Those sort of operations won’t access services like PP just because of the risk involved. That’s not to say that a pimp won’t send his girls to PP, just that this particular scenario as presented is unlikely. And the employee that seemed to go along with it or be all *nudge nudge wink wink* was fired because she violated agency policy. Maybe she thought that going along meant that, when the girls came in, they could be isolated and the authorities called. Whatever her think, she clearly did not do what she should have and was rightfully fired.
I have very strong doubts that PP as an organization is doing a massive cover up of sex trafficking just because it doesn’t make sense. It’s not logical and seems more in line with some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories. I have to call LA’s whole set up into question because it’s just not sound journalism and, barring the one employee, it doesn’t appear that there were any big revelations in any of the other incidents. It would be like trying to draw conclusions for a study that utilized only 10 subjects- there’s no provable there there.
Admittedly, I’m biased in that I support PP and the fact that they provide a necessary service but I don’t think they should be exempt from scrutiny if they are breaking the law or providing incorrect information/services. But these ‘stings’ do nothing but provide some sort of proof for what people on either side of the argument want to believe. If nothing else, it strengthens my resolved to support PP through donations and political action as well supporting efforts to end sex trafficking. And it makes me feel that groups like LA are out to do away with organizations that do the most to help poor and minority populations.
I have very strong doubts that PP as an organization is doing a massive cover up of sex trafficking
Ahh, now I see your point. I take these vids as MORE evidence of PP’s noncompliance with mandated reporting laws related to suspicion of abuse of a minor. And IMHO, in these newest videos, the violation seems more egregious than some of the previous videos because of there being multiple minors impacted and the ongoing nature of the alleged abuse. I don’t have enough information to conclude that PP is doing a massive cover up of sex trafficking. But I do think the evidence is mounting that they are negligent in carrying out mandated reporting obligations as evidenced by their failure to do so in numerous clinic locations and under a variety of circumstances.