Casey Anthony muses getting pregnant again, or adopting
I had a dream not too long ago that I was pregnant. It was like having Cays all over again. I’ve thought about adopting, which even sounds weird to me saying it, but there are so many children that deserve to be loved….
Let’s make a deal – let’s get pregnant together – if it’s really possible to plan it….
~ Casey Anthony, in jailhouse letters written to a fellow inmate, ABC News, July 6
[HT: Hot Air; photo via CBS News]
Jul.08, 2011 6:00 am |
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
What a beautiful little girl! Look how she loved her mama, pressing her joyful face into her mama’s face, and holding it close with her little hand. How could anyone not treasure to be loved like that! How could anyone not be completely in love with that little girl!
Did that little girlybug deserve what happened to her, Casey??
The picture although absolutely precious, breaks my heart.
What exactly happened to her? Where can I read the story about what happened? What a precious little girl!
I am amazed at the outrage The Casey Anthony verdict incited with liberal celebrities. Did you all see the stories on the Twitter comments from Hollywood? I mean, don’t they see the irony? This little girl was only a few years outside the womb. Had Casey Anthony had an abortion, she could have avoided this whole legal mess. Do they not see how closely this issue is related to abortion? Ending the life of a child outside the womb is no more violent and abhorrent than ending the life of a child inside the womb. I am astonished they don’t see that. Simply astonished.
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God forbid another child ever falls into her clutches.
Guys, she had her fair trial by a jury of her peers, as guaranteed by the Constitution. and was found not guilty. Can we please move on now?
Nulono, fair procedures lead to unfair outcomes all the time. We don’t need to lay our brains and consciences on the altar of procedural propriety.
Nothing about this case makes sense to me. Such joy and love between this little girl and her mom. I don’t get it. Obviously, this woman is guilty of some terrible things, but it all just seems hard to imagine. I hope Casey gets some serious psychological help now and stays out of the media as much as possible. You know her little girl has already forgiven her mom.
Nulono, does the name O.J. Simpson come to mind?
Any adoption agency that gives this woman a child should lose their license!!!!!
“I hope Casey gets some serious psychological help now and stays out of the media as much as possible.”
Ditto.
Phillymiss,
You’re right. Also, I believe that beating the rap will accelerate her descent into madness, as there is no punishment to temper her guilt. I watched the video of that Juror who is in nursing school. I can’t believe that someone with her brains in her behind, to that degree, could actually be turned loose on an unsuspecting public. How would you like to look up in the ER and see her standing over your gurney? I’d rather be wheeled out onto the street and left to the elements.
But thinking of truly inspirational people going to school to accomplish truly great things, when do you start social work school? Regina and I will send care packages for the student!!
Selfishness leads to many things…
I’ve thought about this case, Casey, Calley and her parents and wondered what went wrong. All I can think of is, Casey was spoiled and always got he own way, always. Her parents lied out of convenience and therefor she learned to do the same. Casey’s Mother was very domineering and controlling and Casey ,although spoiled rotten, learned that she must please her Mother. I’ve read that Casey wanted to give Calley up for adoption and her Mother wouldn’t have it.
Casey Anthony lied, slept around, strolled, manipulated,fabricated and lived a very selfish life. In other words, it’s all about Casey and what Casey wants Casey will get.
With that said, her soul is a deep dark hole she can never fill with all of her lies and steeling and needing to be #1. That deep dark hole can only be filled with God’s Love and forgiveness and unless she bends her knees, in all honesty, before the throne of God she will never change.
One last thing, if a young Mother says she can’t raise the child she has given birth to, listen! Giving up a child into the arms of one who will love and care for him or her is one of the most courageous things a Mother could ever do.
Casey Anthony is proof positive that some people truly should not have kids under any circumstances. I wonder if she had “pro-life” family and ‘friends’ or other acquaintances whispering in her ear that she could handle this unplanned, unwanted pregnancy, despite being close enough to her to know well that she was either too dumb or too irresponsible (or both) to be a parent. I also wonder if “crisis pregnancy centers” and other pro-life “services” aren’t enabling more Casey Anthonys by doing much the same thing.
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“Casey Anthony is proof positive that some people truly should not have sex under any circumstances.”
Fixed that for you, Joan.
Given the pro-abortion’s viewpoint that children are disposable, joan, I would blame PP et al for this tragedy. CPCs push the viewpoint that children are special, worthy of life, and beings to be cherished, not pieces of trash you can dump at whim.
Joan, that is the most absurd comparison. I refer you to my earlier comment. Killing a child in the womb is equally violent and horrible as killing a child outside the womb. Additionally, I echo JoAnna’s point. PP et all and their disgusting disregard for human life had its part in this horrific event. The fact that you can’t see that is, as I said, astonishing.
Amen JoaAnna.
Joan, you’re right, Casey should have killed Calley (sp?) 2 years ago. Why even give her a chance.
If someone is “too irresponsible (or both) to be a parent” we’ve got a solution that doesn’t kill babies: adoption. Didn’t I read once that Bill Clinton was adopted? I wonder if that’s true.
I wonder if she had “pro-life” family and ‘friends’ or other acquaintances whispering in her ear that she could handle this unplanned, unwanted pregnancy, despite being close enough to her to know damn well that she was either too dumb or too irresponsible (or both) to be a parent.
Explain to me how abortion is smart and responsible and why such dumb, irresponsible people can’t place their child into the arms of equipped, vetted adoptive parents. Why must your solution involve killing that baby rather than giving that child a good life with an adoptive family? You are saying Caylee was better off dismembered/killed in the womb. We say she’d be better off LIVING with another family. Do you not see how death is not the ONLY choice?
Joan,
As I read your many posts, I’m inclined to agree with your statement.
“Commom sense isn’t common enough anymore”. God has this poor innocent baby Caylee in his arms. I am having a hard time but I am trying to pray for her mother and her family. God help them all.
….I am so outraged at this verdict that I can’t even see straight. There was more than enough circumstantial evidence to convict her of AT LEAST involuntary manslaughter. My mind is reeling. This isn’t justice. And not because she was “tried in the media”…..Having followed this case very closely, I am astonished that they would hand down a verdict of “not guilty.” I have seen people convicted of felonies with far less evidence. This is a tragedy, in every single sense of the word, every which way you look at it. That beautiful, beautiful little girl. Who picked this jury? How obtuse and blind and stubborn can you be?!
Dennis Miller said it right – she was tried by a jury of her peers. 12 morons.
Mary Lee,
I think that we are seeing the effects of TV shows like CSI, where every case needs DNA evidence. It may also be a manifestation of people being very wary of circumstantial evidence, given how many men and women have been released from death rows across the country, who were convicted on circumstantial evidence, only to be exonerated by DNA evidence. Such exoneration has to be fought for by groups like Barry Scheck’s Innocence. We may well be seeing a shift away from the acceptability of circumstantial evidence for jurors, in light of all of the above.
Jury members are often chosen for not having knowledge of the case. After all the media coverage of this story before the trial started, ignorance of this case suggests they may not be the brightest people around.
I said this before and I will say it again. I really wish that people would let Caylee rest in peace instead of trying to use her death for either side of the abortion debate.
Mary Lee, I blame the prosecution. There was no where near enough evidence for a murder one conviction. They should have tried her on lesser charges. I think she is guilty as sin, but the evidence didn’t prove murder without a reasonable doubt.
While many of us believe she was guilty, from the little I know of this case, it doesn’t appear that the prosecution could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury was courageous to follow the law in the face of intense pressure to just do what the state wanted. I don’t think it’s fair to call the jurors ignorant or morons. I’m sure they were just as upset about the death of this cute little girl as the rest of us. Being a juror on a case like this is very difficult.
So now CPC’s are “enabling” more toddler murderers by not encouraging abortion instead? Wow, Joan, you really, really do love abortion. It is your answer to everything.
Why can’t you connect the dots? The same mindset that dumps a 2 yr-old’s body in a garbage bag in a swamp also dumps tiny babies in garbage bags in the dumpster out back. There’s absolutely no difference. The same Caylee would have been murdered, whether at 12 weeks of pregnancy or 2 years old. Same child. If a child is disposable at one age, she is disposable at any age.
Abortion teaches mothers and fathers to kill. Kill their own children.
“….I am so outraged at this verdict that I can’t even see straight. There was more than enough circumstantial evidence to convict her of AT LEAST involuntary manslaughter.”
She wasn’t even charged with involuntary manslaughter. If you want to blame anyone here, blame the smug, overreaching prosecutors who thought this would be a slam dunk case (though not without some justification, I admit).
This picture breaks my heart. My daughter is the same age right now as Caylee when she went missing. Hits way too close to home :(
Joan, I blame the prosecutors to an extent also.
To Gerard’s point, I think we have a problem on our hands if people have come to believe that circumstantial evidence is somehow not good evidence or not worthy of consideration. There won’t always be CSI type smoking guns or DNA evidence, but you hear more and more from jurors that that’s what they felt was missing. The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt, not beyond ALL doubt.
Hey Joan,
There are a lot of different opinions out there regarding when it would have been acceptable to have terminated Caylee’s gestation. I was curious if you had settled on an opinion.
Any time during the 9 months? 2nd trimester? 1st?
In other words, looking backwards through precious Caylee’s development, I was wondering when you believed she would lose her preciousness enough to terminate her and why?
“The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt, not beyond ALL doubt.”
That’s true, but it’s up to the jurors to decide what “reasonable” is for themselves. They are, after all, being asked to exercise their own judgment.
And don’t worry Joan, I’m not waiting to pin you down so I can respond with an attack of how cruel and insensitive you are. We all formulate our belief systems based on our upbringing, education and life experiences.
I believe we’ll all stand before God to give an account of our lives and if I want to receive mercy then I’d better dish out plenty of mercy and understanding now.
Not to mention, Ed, that “my body my choice” also includes the “right” to have children, not only kill them. Any abortion advocate who declares Casey should be either sterilized or her children aborted is a HYPOCRITE. If a woman can kill a child before she raises it badly, a woman can also kill a child before she raises it well. See?
What’s interesting is how quickly abortion fans are to recommend death to children and how deeply they despise the process of adoption. Why is that Joan? Tell us, as a long time abortion-advocating commenter: should adopted children be killed instead? Like Ed says, at what age?
“That’s true, but it’s up to the jurors to decide what “reasonable” is for themselves. They are, after all, being asked to exercise their own judgment.”
And highly skilled lawyers can make unreasonable doubts seem reasonable.
Nulono,Some of the jury members are speaking out (on television) and saying they don’t think she’s innocent, either. They just could not find her guilty, given the “evidence” they were presented. As for “moving on”… little Caylee will never get to, now will she?
I wonder if this was the same inmate she told about using chloroform, or heard from about another inmate whose child was found drowned by her grandfather. Which the jury never heard about. Prejudicial, dontcha know. As is any piece of evidence that points to one person!
I like how these juries scold us for not being there in court. But when televised, we know much more than they do about these cases. If they tell the truth about not having followed the case beforehand, they are actually less qualified to judge than anyone.
They would have seen how hard the Anthonys looked for their granddaughter. The idea that George would have discarded the “drowned” child in swampy weeds is ludicrous. Not even a burial? Only 14 houses from home?
If he didn’t hide his granddaughter’s life because his daughter was undwed, why in the world would he – an ex-police officer – hide her accidental death?
The presence of chloroform and three pieces of duct tape means at the very least an unintentioned death during child abuse. That is equal to premeditated murder.
The reason I ask Joan is because I believe this gets to the heart of the abortion debate. No one can argue against the preciousness of Caylee. What a little sweetheart! We all agree on the tragedy of her death. None of us knew her personally but we’ve known other children her age and can imagine how adorable she must have been because of her pictures.
It’s easier to justify termination if you start at conception and move forward because sometimes there’s no emotional attachment, particularly if one wasn’t planning to conceive a child.
But I think it’s tougher for us once we’ve come to care about someone to decide when it would have been acceptable to terminate them.
That’s true, but it’s up to the jurors to decide what “reasonable” is for themselves. They are, after all, being asked to exercise their own judgment.
Of course no one but the jurors can actually make the decision. But the rest of us are certainly capable of weighing in on their professed reasons for having doubt. Which brings me back to the point that we don’t need to leave our brains on the altar of procedure.
Had this woman been given a choice to place her daughter Up for adoption, her daughter would still be alive…Adoption is an option both the mother and child can LIVE with…Plain and simple, this case is showing what 35years OF WHAT ABORTION has taught our women and men…That LIFE IS DISPOSABLE…That the Young(pre born and born)children are just “things” until they can basically trivially care for themselves…I see NO DIFFERENCE IN what happened to this little girl, and A BABY ABORTED at any stage..The mother was selfish and didnt see HER OWN CHILD AS A PERSON…flat out..Babies are dumped, shaken to death or given irreversible damage(shaken baby syndrome or SBS) or they are neglected…All because their parents didn’t just choose adoption…Abortion only stops a beating heart and hardens the mother’s with guilt.
Here’s a pretty good essay on this case:
http://www.patheos.com/community/philosophicalfragmients/2011/07/07/her-blood-cries-out-casey-anthony-caylee-and-the-justice-of-god
Even if little Caylee drowned, Casey was still negligent. She should have paid closer attention. However, she has the legal right to get pregnant again. That is part of “reproductive freedom.” People are naturally reluctant to even think about or discuss the prospect of legally limiting anyone’s ability to reproduce.
Many years ago I read about a woman who had spent 5 years in prison for murdering her very young daughter. She was going back to prison for trying to kill her young son. According to shrinks, she had a bizarre compulsion to give birth to babies and then kill them.
The judge worked out a plea bargain by which he shaved a few years off her sentence in exchange for her having a tubal ligation. He dryly noted, “She has no further need of children.”
Two unlikely bedfellows — the National Organization for Women and the Roman Catholic Church — objected to having sterilization as part of a plea bargain.
Is it time to re-think the whole concept (no pun intended) of reproductive freedom?
“Casey Anthony is proof positive that some people truly should not have kids under any circumstances.”
Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that the majority of pro-choicers we come across are spewing anti-choice comments such as this? If you’re going to be pro-choice, then at least be consistent in your convictions. Clearly Casey just wasn’t ready to be a mother, so she did what any responsible woman would do and disposed of her child….. *rolls eyes*
No, Denise, this doesn’t change my view of reproductive freedom.
Even though it was a terrible tragedy that this little girl died, it would not honor her to turn our own country into a brutal regime like China where there is such a thing as an “illegal pregnancy.”
One thing we must remember is that — at least at the present time — adoption can’t be done pre-natally. The unborn can’t be taken from one womb and transplanted into another. Thus, adoption is not “an alternative to abortion.” Rather, the only available alternative to abortion at the present time is not having an abortion. Then, when the baby is born, if the mother STILL doesn’t want to raise the baby, he or she may be placed for adoption.
However, the vast majority of those who carry to term and give birth will want to raise their offspring.
I talked to a woman who has had abortions if she would have been more likely to have the baby and place the baby for adoption had there been greater honor for birthmothers. She said the status of adoption was “quite irrelevant” because it was “the pregnancy ITSELF” that was the problem. She did not want to be pregnant and going through the process pregnancy entails. She also said that “in some widely speculative alternative universe” in which she had completed the pregnancy, relinquishment wouldn’t have been an issue as she faced no stigma from her family.
Is the tragedy of Caylee Anthony proof positive that toddlers and swimming pools just don’t mix?
Should children at Caylee’s age simply be nowhere near a swimming pool?
I am hesitant to voice this, because I do believe in the freedom to reproduce, but I wonder if Casey should be sterilized. At some point, the freedom to reproduce is not as important as the right of children to live.
If a woman is implicated in the death of her children, I would be willing to revisit the idea of sterilization, as well as barring her from adoption. It sounds disturbing, even as I write it, but not so much as the mental pictures of children who die at the hands of their mothers.
Then, should we allow women who have aborted to have children? I think yes, because there are so many situations where women were coerced and/or unaware of fetal development.
It is a hard question, but I do wonder if prolifers should rule out sterilization in every case. If there ever was a time I’d think about it, it’d be for Casey.
For my fellow Catholics and others who are familiar with Catholic moral teaching, I submit sterilization in the case of Casey Anthony is not so much an issue of the ends not justifying the means as it is the principle of double effect. Children need to be protected from Casey. Thoughts?
Denise Noe,
You really think this comes down to toddler safety around swimming pools??!!
I think child murderers should be nowhere near children.
Carla says:
July 8, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Denise Noe,
You really think this comes down to toddler safety around swimming pools??!!
I think child murderers should be nowhere near children.
(Denise) I have read of many tragedies occurring because small children were around swimming pools. Toddlers are attracted to swimming pools and their caregivers — mothers, fathers, older kids, babysitters, etc. — need only have their attention leave the child for a brief moment and a tragedy results.
Casey’s attorneys claim that Caylee died in a swimming pool. I don’t know how Caylee died but I know all-too-many little ones have died in swimming pools.
Perhaps families that include young children just should not have pools. Perhaps young children should not even visit homes that have pools.
Oh, right, none of the responsible families should enjoy pools because some criminal narcissist lies and says her child drowned. Really?
And a bolt of lightning struck a tree at the location where Caylee’s remains were found yesterday.
Somebody’s got a message to send, no?
no forced sterilization – we are not China, we do not want to reproduce (pardon pun) the forced sterilization of those in our own country, even into the 1970’s of those deemed ‘unfit’ to be parents. No way.
and we are supposed to be a civilized nation? while we want to protect the children, of course, we will have to deal with a system that says the possibility of problems do not dictate that those problems will occur – even for betting people. We have to have safeguards in place to help protect the children, and still give freedom to people, even if it’s a chance.
Otherwise we will live in a totalitarian state. Not fool-proof. Not a guarantee. But it preserves hope and freedom, and in most cases, things work. Can it be better? yes. More safeguards for kids; intervention early (and earlier); better programs to produce improvement; much better oversight.
But a government state dictating who can reproduce and under what circumstances? heck no. Not only an affront to those who believe in God’s domain, but also to those who think freedoms should be for people, even if imperfect.
There was no where near enough evidence for a murder one conviction. They should have tried her on lesser charges. I think she is guilty as sin, but the evidence didn’t prove murder without a reasonable doubt.
Jack, true, but on the table were at least two other options where the jury could have found her guilty.
Denise Noe: Perhaps young children should not even visit homes that have pools.
Pools should be filled in and made into shuffleboard courts.
mrsmary72: Nothing about this case makes sense to me.
I didn’t follow much of the court proceedings, and while I don’t think the jury got the whole story here, what makes sense to me is what was reported earlier – that Casey would want to go out and party, and she’d use chloroform to knock Caylee out, put her to bed, then go out. One time she used too much, and Caylee died. She’d researched cholorform on the internet, as well as how to break necks to kill people, but the too-much-chloroform sounds very plausible to me as well as cause for a manslaughter conviction.
“Jack, true, but on the table were at least two other options where the jury could have found her guilty.”
True, I was so wrapped up in the murder one charge that I forgot about the child abuse and manslaughter charges. I believe they had enough evidence for the child abuse charge, and possibly the manslaughter charge. I really think that the DA screwed up putting the murder one charge in there, though.
joan,
This isn’t about whether Casey was persuaded to give birth or not. Caylee lived with her grandparents, but Casey still had parental rights. Casey picked up Caylee and left with her. If Casey didn’t want to be a mother any more, she could have just signed full custody over to her parents and left, never looking back. No, this was not about abortion, this was about control over another person’s life because she wanted a “fresh start”.
Denise Noe,
They’re called swimming pool guard fences. When the pool isn’t in use, you lock it up. If Caylee did die in the pool, as the defense claims, then the grandparents could be locked up for negligence, since they didn’t put a guard fence up.
To everyone arguing about whether or not Casey can or should be forced to have her tubes tied,
Some people are not allowed reproductive freedom. The court can legally order a woman to have her tubes tied. They did to my cousin after she kept getting pregnant and giving the kids up for adoption. If someone is irresponsible, then they can have their reproductive freedom taken away, just like any other freedom someone is irresponsible with.
However, Casey Anthony was not tried on charges of negligence. The the State Attorney’s Office explained: “The neglect charges were premised on the theory that Caylee was still alive. As the investigation progressed and it became clear that the evidence proved that the child was deceased, the State sought an indictment on the legally appropriate charges.” Those charges were: first-degree murder, aggravated manslaughter, and aggravated child abuse, but guilty on four misdemeanor counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer.
If any other evidence comes up, then Casey can be tried again for neglect to have her tubes tied. As it is, right now, she can’t have her freedoms taken away once she’s out of prison, which happens on the 17th.
I must agree with Jack there was no where near enough evidence to give Casey the DEATH PENALTY, i’m horrified it was even on the table.
I find the reaction of this case really alarming. People on the news saying they want Casey to die, and threatening her life, that is NOT OKAY. I am really concerned she will be murdered.
Also what is this talk of sterilization. I hope you are joking. remember that Casey was found not guilty…there are no grounds to sterilize her on!! are you really proposing we sterilize ANYONE let a lone that was found not guilty. I get that people are angry, but some of this talk is crazy crazy
The court can legally order a woman to have her tubes tied. They did to my cousin after she kept getting pregnant and giving the kids up for adoption.
That’s disturbing that the courts can order someone’s mutilation. I am appalled that your cousin was irresponsible in getting pregnant, but that doesn’t give the government the right to mutilate her. Surely, if she had aborted all those children rather than placed them in adoptive homes, she wouldn’t have been cut open at the government’s insistence. Furthermore, many women have babies they can’t care for and yet keep them and they aren’t ordered to have surgery. My best friend’s mother never married and had 7 kids with 6 different daddies, the daddy of 2 of them was a child molester. She neglected and abused her children and she was never sterilized. My best friend chose abstinence until marriage and got an advanced degree (and decided to raise her baby sister)- so I am glad that her mother wasn’t cut up by the court, although I abhor what she did. My bestie’s other sister had 4 babies the last I heard (different daddies), one of which she tried to abort. I don’t think having children and placing them for adoption is morally good, but it was actually a quite responsible choice for an unfit mother compared to the choices other unfit mothers are allowed to make without consequence. As sick as people’s selfish choices regarding babies makes me, the government has no right to mandate medical care for any reason, especially the unnecessary mutilation of a healthy, functioning organ.
If someone is irresponsible, then they can have their reproductive freedom taken away, just like any other freedom someone is irresponsible with.
This is patently untrue. If I were irresponsible with my freedom of speech, I don’t lose the right to speak. If I am irresponsible with my freedom of religion, I don’t lose it. RIGHTS are RIGHTS. They can only be forfeited in due process because of a crime. Getting pregnant is not a crime. Placing for adoption is not a crime. Unfortunately, killing a child in an abortion is not a crime. Your cousin has the right to get pregnant and the government had no right to mutilate her. Even if she was guilty of a crime, the government has no right to mutilate its citizens.
Also, compulsory sterilization is historically not about unfit motherhood- but about controlling populations of people bigots didn’t like and found “inferior”- minorities and the disabled. It’s all about eugenics. Adolf Hitler started with compulsory sterilization before he moved on to mass murder. Google Carrie Buck.
Government-mandated sterilization is never acceptable in any situation.
” She did not want to be pregnant and going through the process pregnancy entails.”
Then she shouldn’t be engaging in behavior that biologically functions to result in the creation of another human life.
“She also said that “in some widely speculative alternative universe” in which she had completed the pregnancy, relinquishment wouldn’t have been an issue as she faced no stigma from her family.”
So we can’t forbid people to kill their children until it wouldn’t be the least bit inconvenient or uncomfortable for them? Until then, by all means, kill your child if it means you can avoid some dirty looks from your family.
She lied and misdirected authorities over and over to keepthem busy chasing their tales. She shouldbe fined a serious amount ofmoney and part of the sentence should be confiscating any money that comes from her selling her story. Another part of the sentence should have been a long stay in Bellview post release. Until she was able to answer some questions honestly about how she came to ‘lose’ Casey. She is responsible for her lies and obfuscation and that makes her guilty as a conspirator and her behaviour begs for extended post-release monitoring and counseling.
“She is responsible for her lies and obfuscation and that makes her guilty as a conspirator and her behaviour begs for extended post-release monitoring and counseling.”
Yes, agreed. And she needs a body guard, or I fear one of my fellow Floridians will end up taking the law into their own hands.
So far the state of Florida does not seem to be able to take the steps to prevent her from killing again. She needs to be kept under observation and forced to attend regular counseling.
Well, from what I can tell from the justice system in my state, their main concern is prosecuting minor drug offenders and petty thieves. There doesn’t seem to be a ton of concern for rehabilitation or prevention here. Seriously, the courts are awful in Florida.
Waiting for a “If I Did It” book from Casey.
All righty, then. Here’s a link to that link of a pretty good essay on this case:
http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/72087531-53bd-4c4a-826d-121a3fbbf328
CT says:
July 8, 2011 at 10:59 pm
” She did not want to be pregnant and going through the process pregnancy entails.” Then she shouldn’t be engaging in behavior that biologically functions to result in the creation of another human life.>>
(Denise) My friend wrote an article about her experience. She states at the outset that she wasn’t raped or coerced, drunk or high, or deceived and seduced. She was 17 years old, with a boy a little younger, and the two of them were bored and horny. They “got stupid.”
Shouldn’t have done it? I couldn’t agree more. <<“She also said that “in some widely speculative alternative universe” in which she had completed the pregnancy, relinquishment wouldn’t have been an issue as she faced no stigma from her family.” So we can’t forbid people to kill their children until it wouldn’t be the least bit inconvenient or uncomfortable for them? Until then, by all means, kill your child if it means you can avoid some dirty looks from your family.
(Denise) That friend faced no stigma from her family because of the pregnancy. She got the abortion because she rejected the pregnancy itself. I’m not saying she should have got the abortion. I’m just relating that she did and the reason she gave for it.
It still hurts to look at that picture.
Denise, you are right in that “you can’t fix stupid.” However, you shouldn’t kill because of it either.
One attorney said about this Casey case she was, boozn’, screwn’ & tattoon’
Read Rush Lumbaugh’s take on this very sad killing of beautiful child Caylee. It’s so true.
that’s a lovely picture. what went wrong?
My dear friends. WE are ALL responsible for what happens to children. WE are the ones who vote those in office without finding out who they REALLY are and WHOM they serve ! SEEK ye the KINGDOM of GOD and ALL else will be added ! Its time WE,AS CHRISTIANS do our part in HELPING God take back what belongs to HIM !! VOTE PRO-LIFE,PRO-CHRISTIANS into Government ! There is NO LONGER seperation of State and Church ! This IS STILL my Fathers world !!
(Denise) That friend faced no stigma from her family because of the pregnancy. She got the abortion because she rejected the pregnancy itself. I’m not saying she should have got the abortion. I’m just relating that she did and the reason she gave for it.
(Ninek) That woman faced no stigma from her family because of the pregnancy. She paid someone to kill her child because she rejected the child himself or herself. I’m not saying she should have had her child dismembered, boiled, and thrown into a landfill. *
There, Ninek fixed those typos for you.
*Stericycle does in fact use steam and/or heat to ‘sterilize’ and ‘decontaminate’ the tiny corpses.
If the devil is the father of lies then Casey Anthony is posessed.
ninek says:
July 11, 2011 at 7:32 pm
(Denise) That friend faced no stigma from her family because of the pregnancy. She got the abortion because she rejected the pregnancy itself. I’m not saying she should have got the abortion. I’m just relating that she did and the reason she gave for it.
(Ninek) That woman faced no stigma from her family because of the pregnancy. She paid someone to kill her child because she rejected the child himself or herself. I’m not saying she should have had her child dismembered, boiled, and thrown into a landfill. *
There, Ninek fixed those typos for you.
(Denise) Ninek, I myself haven’t had an abortion. I am repulsed by abortion. However, your re-interpretation of my friend’s stated reasons for having an abortion obscure the truth. This was a young woman who faced no parental disapproval or stigma over her pregnancy. She wasn’t concerned about problems associated with raising a baby as a single woman.
She did not want to COMPLETE THE PREGNANCY. In her words, a pregnant female will “swell and swell and swell” and “spend hours and perhaps days writhing and screaming and bleeding and in agony.” She believes that females who want to be pregnant automatically accept these physical changes “with equanimity.” However, since she didn’t want the pregnancy, she didn’t face the physical process calmly. Instead, she says, her reaction to going through pregnancy was “no way. No way in hell.” THAT was why she sought an abortion: to avoid this physical process. The abortion stopped the process of “swelling and swelling and swelling” and avoided the “days of writhing and screaming and bleeding.”
Since she was 4 months pregnant when she had the abortion, I thought the abortion itself might have been much like childbirth. My understanding is that a female undergoing a saline abortion suffers labor the same as a female in normal childbirth. However, she said that what happened was that she had mild cramps that were so mild they didn’t prevent her from falling asleep. After cramping for awhile, the doctor went into her uterus and removed the dead fetus.
Again, I’m relating what she told me. I’m not supporting what she did.