Life Links 2-8-12
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- In the UK, the mother of girl who was impregnated at 14 by an older man warned other mothers:
It was bad enough to find out what had happened but even worse to find out she was pregnant. It was a nightmare to see my daughter go through the pain of an abortion, and she is still quite ill and has been suffering from depression.
- Police are investigating the case of a stillborn child who was thrown in a dumpster in Maryland.
- Richard Doerflinger writes in the National Review about legislation in Washington state which would force every health insurance plan in the state to cover abortions and points out the abject phoniness of “pro-choice” organizations who claim they want to reduce abortions:
Hailed in the Huffington Post as “groundbreaking” by “reproductive rights” advocate Laura Bassett, the bill is being promoted by the local affiliates of Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America — the same groups that endorsed the birth-control mandate and claimed it would reduce abortions.
If mandating coverage of contraception is expected to increase use of contraception (in an effort to reduce abortions), presumably mandating coverage of abortion will increase the use of abortion. Supporting both mandates may seem inconsistent. The inconsistency disappears if we recognize that these organizations support both policies in order to reduce live births, on the assumption that this will mean a better America….
The Washington bill, in requiring insurance plans to treat childbirth and abortion identically, represents a pro-abortion ideology in its purest and most extreme form: It suggests a belief that abortion is the moral equivalent of childbirth, that killing is the same as healing. And that bizarre view must be imposed on everyone who offers, sponsors, or buys insurance — they must provide and pay for abortion on demand as though they believed it too.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
i wonder if a pro abort can explain why babies are still being tossed into dumpsters despite legal abortion on demand. i will never ever forget the infanticide cases of amy grossberg melissa drexler or jessica coleman as long as i live! why did child abuse sky rocket despite abortion. i wonder why children still live in poverty. wasnt abortion legalized to ELIMINATE these problems?
Heather, because unfortunately, not every woman has the money necessary (since abortion isn’t covered by federal insurance) or the time (with the ridiculous waiting times mandated by some states) to seek a safe, legal abortion–even if the woman wants one.
Riiiiight Less. Abortion is covered by welfare is it not? Medicaid covers it! And if you bleeding hearts are so concerned why don’t you all band together and offer FREE abortions to poor women? I mean, us pro-lifers offer all our services and baby items and maternity clothes etc… FREE OF CHARGE. You pro-aborts can’t do it too? No, you want tax payers to pay for it all. Pay for your child murder.
And the “waiting times’. yeah….. 24 hours is WAY too long to wait before deciding to undergo surgery! You should be able to walk into a hospital and have open heart surgery or the lap band or breast augmentation THAT DAY. Within the hour I say! You should be able to walk into a clinic and be scraped and suctioned and out the door within ten minutes. Who needs to think over such a critical life-altering decision. Who needs informed consent, amirite?
right sydney m. im still waiting for a pro abort to explain. yes the taxpayers flip the bills for abortions. ask a few of the women i know ” welfare paid for my abortion(s)” tons of women flock to preterm and it looks like a burger king drive through. they line em up scrape em out and move the next group in and the cycle repeats. btw less….i have had breast implants and rhinoplasty. the actual surgeries were performed 2 to 3 weeks after meeting with my doctor. there wasnt any walking in and flopping up on the table. anyway its your uterus and you ask government to stay out of your abortion decision. heres an idea….pay for your own dead baby.
ever notice how after 40 years of abortion on demand pro aborts continue to make stupid excuses for any evil action including infanticide?
With regards to a waiting period, when so many states have less than a clinic per county, often times requiring women to drive hundreds of miles, a waiting period can require hotel stays that would put the procedure beyond their means. And with the percentage of women who have children aborting, child care costs must be factored in. And if these women don’t get paid sick leave (I sure don’t), lost income needs to be factored in. Even with the abortion paid for, perhaps by private donation if the woman doesn’t qualify for assistance, the procedure might be beyond her means.
Okay Less, then you and your bleeding heart friends should open up clinics on every corner. I can’t help it if all the clinics are dirty and keep getting shut down by states for being the nasty hellholes that they are. Kermit Gosnell was butchering women in my neck of the woods. We have abortion clinics all over Philly and the surrounding suburbs. TONS. And yet we have found dead babies in our trash too.
What about when abortion clinics numbered in the thousands (in the 80’s). Child abuse was still skyrocketing. In fact, child abuse numbers have steadily climbed since 1973 when abortion was legalized. Coincidence? I think not. If you can kill your baby when he is in your womb, whats a little smacking around when he comes out of your womb.
yeah…i knew a woman who had 8 back in the 90s. my ex got her pregnant with the 8th baby and she wouldnt hear of having a baby. my ex didnt really care much either im sorry to say. this woman had 1 living daughter and was beyond abusive. most of the abuse was verbal. she began to have non stop vaginal bleeding after her last abortion and a hysterectomy was required. doctors told her the uterine damage was because of the multiple abortions. her daughter ended up living with her parents because this woman became an abusive alcoholic. she couldnt bond with her living child. my ex stayed with her a while longer and she almost drank herself to death after the hysterectomy. last id heard she joined AA and sobered up for a few years. my ex moved on to another woman. looking back i now realize she was suffering because of the abortions.
Less, aptly named, did not think before commenting:
There is an abortion clinic LESS than 30 miles from that dumpster. Try google maps, honey, it’s on the interwebs, the same interwebs that brought you to this website.
I’m unsure as to why you singled the 80’s out as a decade with a particularly high number of clinics; perhaps you’d be able to back that stat up? As well as the stats on abuse? As for clinics being “dirty” as a reason for closure, the majority of closures based on new state based legislation is for room sizes and the like, not hygiene–though I’m sure that was a factor in some clinics.
As for you, Ninek, I’m unsure as to where your hostility comes from. We’ve not spoken previously, and your insults, as well as your familiarity, are uncalled for.
Yes, I’ll back it up Less. Give me a few minutes. I’m putting my son to bed and I’ll be back.
Sounds good! Don’t feel rushed–I can check back tomorrow. : D
Real quick, the “80’s” reference was from a PP website (Planned PArenthood) that said abortion was more accessible during that decade. According to Operation Rescue who tracks abortion clinic openings and closings the height of abortion clinics was in 1991 when there were 2200 abortion clinics in the US. So thats where I got that.
The child abuse stats, let me look that up and I will get back to you.
when so many states have less than a clinic per county, often times requiring women to drive hundreds of miles,
Less, why do women deserve the right to a hit man in every community?
With regards to a waiting period, when so many states have less than a clinic per county, often times requiring women to drive hundreds of miles, a waiting period can require hotel stays that would put the procedure beyond their means.
Not “often times”
The reason they don’t have clinics in many counties is that there are so few people living in those counties. Few people means few clinics of any kind. So, it is not so common to have to travel far for an abortion.
Sorry Less, I haven’t gotten back to you. I know right where the information is regarding child abuse and abortion and have not had time to look it up (I have it written down because I have had this debate with other abortion supporters before).
I will be out for most of the day but I PROMISE I will get the websites and the info and link it. Probably will not be back online till tonight. So bear with me.
Wait–this woman is going to kill her child but she’s inconvenienced by having to drive and find a babysitter?
We have a saying in the South perfect for times like these: Bless her heart.
Less’ response to dead baby in a dumpster: should’ve killed them sooner.
Makes perfect sense.
If abortion is so “just a common, routine medical procedure”, why is this young teenaged girl having so many problems?
I don’t get it. Mom’s solution to failing at parenting her daughter is to “help” her daughter epic-fail at parenting her grandchild. Once again, makes perfect sense. 9_9
Wouldn’t the price of fuel be far less than having to pay for an abortion??? Surprised that PP doesn’t have some type of shuttle service, since they provide so many services and all, to shuttle these females to go kill their children. Or do they?
Well, Less, the dumpster in Maryland wasn’t in a rural location. Here is what you originally said:
With regards to a waiting period, when so many states have less than a clinic per county, often times requiring women to drive hundreds of miles, a waiting period can require hotel stays that would put the procedure beyond their means. And with the percentage of women who have children aborting, child care costs must be factored in. And if these women don’t get paid sick leave (I sure don’t), lost income needs to be factored in. Even with the abortion paid for, perhaps by private donation if the woman doesn’t qualify for assistance, the procedure might be beyond her means.
So, you commented without thinking it through. I also find it heinous that you would make all the other assumptions you have. I have thought over why a woman would carry a child to term and then throw it in a dumpster. But guess what, she came forward, so now we will know. Sorry for the dig at your name, but I find that many abortion advocates here have ironically named themselves. One named Reality, for example, never provides proof of any of his wild assumptions. Maybe you’re different. But I’m not here to make friends with abortion advocates. Where does my hostility come from? From the fact that people murder millions of small new human beings in this country and some whine that it just isn’t easy enough.
Or, Doe, PP could buy a fleet of Chevy Volts (I hear they’re not selling well) for their shuttle service. They could claim to be Green (ec0-friendly) as well as Red (for all the blood.)
Courtnay,
LOL!
Courtnay,
PP could use the government funds they get to buy the Chevy Volts, then they could be red for another reason as well. ;)
Less, the information on child abuse can be found on the US. Dept. of health and human resources website and http://www.childwelfare.gov
You can find any year you want and see that the instances of child abuse have increased since 1973.
Within the first 9 years of legalized abortion child abuse increased by 500%.
you can go to CDC website to find abortion numbers/statistics etc.. and can correlate that my statement is true.