Women’s health? The only doctors Planned Parenthood hires are abortionists
The state’s application for renewal of the program, which expires on March 31, makes it clear they want the program to continue and will have ample providers available when fewer than 100 Planned Parenthood sites no longer receive funds.
There are currently more than a thousand certified WHP [Women’s Health Program] providers in Texas who are not abortion providers or affiliates of abortion providers. These typically offer comprehensive primary and preventative care to low-income women in addition to family planning. That means women likely see a doctor at her visit.
Planned Parenthood offers only a narrow range of services and is unwilling or incapable of offering comprehensive primary care. Planned Parenthood cannot treat breast cancer. They do not even have mammogram machines. The only time a woman sees a doctor at Planned Parenthood is if she is there for an abortion. Women deserve better.
~ Press statement, Texas Alliance for Life, February 24
i went to PP for my birth control for 14 yrs. id go in and answer a few questions and get my shot. i always saw a GNP and i NEVER had a mammogram. in fact nobody ever suggested one. this was a small clinic staffed with medical assistants and at that time they didnt do abortions. they would send women to the main extermination site in bedford ohio. abortionists are not doctors and abortion is not health care. i severed my PP ties and i do not support any organization that does. ive heard the salvation army and nationwide insurance gave them money ( our pastor has a list ) so i switched my insurance co. and i dont give to the red kettles anymore.
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you cannot serve 2 masters. just like i passed a susan komen cookie sale and refused to buy their cookies. i told the woman ” as long as you give your money to PP i will not buy a thing from you.” she looked a bit ticked as i walked on by. oh well.
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I thought all the women in the world were going to get ebola and die if Planned Parenthood were defunded. You mean there’s alternatives????
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Courtnay, don’t be fooled. Everyone knows Planned Parenthood invented healthcare and to this day are the only ones who know how to provide it. Its true because they say so.
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To be fair, it is not true that the only time a woman sees a doctor at PP is to get an abortion. The “doctors” there are also supposed to do pelvic exams and other gynecology-related stuff.
This is a pretty glaring mistake on the part of the Texas Alliance for Life, and a sad one, because they could have very easily shone a bright spotlight on the fact that PP’s care is always limited to the reproductive system. (Yes, they bleat about caring for poor women, but the only “care” they provide those women is to keep them from reproducing… hmm…)
Instead, TAL made a very inaccurate statement that PP can knock to the floor with one punch. That’s very sloppy on TAL’s part, and they need to get their act together.
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Clarice –
To be fair, it is not true that the only time a woman sees a doctor at PP is to get an abortion. The “doctors” there are also supposed to do pelvic exams and other gynecology-related stuff.
I don’t think you can get a pelvic exam or “other gynecology – related stuff” at PP unless you are going to have an abortion. I’m not certain, but I have never heard of one person who actually saw a doctor at a PP unless they were getting an abortion – and many of them were never introduced to a person who identified him/herself as a doctor – they just assumed that the person performing the abortion was a doctor.
Again – I am not 100% sure if this is true across the board, but it is true to my (limited) knowledge. Perhaps Lila Rose could investigate this.
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Maureen, I knew a woman who did get pelvic exams at PP although she never aborted there. So it is just not true to say the only time a woman sees a doctor there is for abortion.
I wish crisis pregnancy centers could also be women’s clinics, where we could get medical care from doctors who are not also murderers.
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Clarice – thanks for the info!
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PP definitely provides routine gynecological care, and I have been seen by a doctor at my local PP for a medical problem that had nothing to do with an abortion. In fact, I’m going to our PP with one of my friends next week to have her annual exam done!
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Christine J. says:
In fact, I’m going to our PP with one of my friends next week to have her annual exam done!
I’m sorry!
I hope you don’t contract any diseases there. I could simply not imagine having someone who murders babies in cold blood provide ANY type of healthcare to me, let alone an exam like that.
I have heard they do not clean their instruments well; nor do are they inspected like regular health clinics. Women have actually reported contracting diseases from abortion clinics.
Why in heaven’s name are you going there when you could go to a health clinic that DOES NOT perform abortions? Find a pro-life ob-gyn if it’s an issue of finances, and explain your financial situation. I am SURE that a pro-life ob-gyn would be more than happy to see you at a reduced cost to protect yourself from the horrors of what you might encounter at an abortion mill – even if it’s just an STD. What an absolutely disgusting thing to do – to have someone’s hands who has just performed murder to touch you, and also to give money to a place that kills children!
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First of all, the PP in my town doesn’t perform abortions. So, there’s that. Not that I would personally find it problematic if my gynecologist performed abortions (my own regular gyn isn’t at PP, but I’m not quite sure what she does at her private practice), but it’s not really a concern where I am. In any case, I support legal abortion and so does the friend I’m going with. I’m no more interested in giving money to a anti-legal abortion doctor than you are in giving money to a PP clinic.
Secondly, have you ever been inside a PP clinic? I’ve been there, and they’re perfectly clean and above-board. They do get inspected like any other medical practice. And this is something I keep encountering again and again here– not all doctors and medical staff who perform abortions or work at practices where they are done are awful, terrible, cold-blooded people. PP staff are not mean and uncaring and dirty. They’re just normal people (all the PP staff I’ve encountered are actually super nice!) for the most part. You do get some sickos like Kermit Gosnell, but really, most of them are invested in their patients’ lives and health.
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Christine J. wrote (emphasis mine), “They’re just normal people (all the PP staff I’ve encountered are actually super nice!) for the most part. You do get some sickos like Kermit Gosnell, but really, most of them are invested in their patients’ lives and health.”
Normal isn’t the right word for what Christine means. Only Jesus Christ is normal. Adam and Eve were normal before they sinned. Sin isn’t normal; God didn’t introduce it even though He allowed it. Now everyone of us has a little Gosnell or Hitler inside of us, so that’s ordinary but it’s still not normal.
Nice does seem to a good word for what Christine means. Most people are nice. I remember seeing a picture of Nazi staff (at a concentration camp, I think) relaxing during break. They looked very nice. They were very invested in their fellow citizens’ lives and health, at least those of the most Aryan citizens.
Christine will likely find my comment offensive. I find her whitewashing of Planned Parenthood offensive. If she doesn’t want her local Planned Parenthood clinic associated with abortion and violence, then she should get them to disaffiliate (or do whatever the necessary process is).
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Sin is normal, in the sense of the word that all of the people around you (and in the world!) are sinners. It is clearly not the ideal, but it is perfectly normative. Christ was abnormal because he was sinless.
Your point about the Nazi concentration camp staff is probably quite true. I’m sure lots of them were quite pleasant people. But that’s really not the point, now is it? I was rebutting Julie’s point about what one is likely to encounter in a PP clinic. It’s not all bloody walls and dismembered limbs. It’s pretty much like just any other doctor’s office that you go to. If I remember correctly, they had more security measures in place (they had to inspect your bags, and only patients were allowed back into the examination room unless there were extenuating circumstances, but the differences stopped there. I’ve also been to another PP when I was an undergraduate, and they couldn’t have a sign visible from the road, because they’d been the target of violence before (which was the truly scary part to me, especially since they didn’t perform abortions either.)
I don’t really find your comment offensive. If you believe that abortion is murder, then of course, it is an atrocity comparable with the Holocaust. But really now, it’s not as if the staff who work there are made of pure evil and enjoy torturing infants just for the fun of it. I’m pretty sure that they wouldn’t do the work they do if they really believed that what they did was murder. (For the record, I don’t believe abortion is murder, either.) They’re just regular medical staff doing what medical staff does–helping their patients.
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Sin might be usual but it is not normal. It is an aberration, something wrong happening. Normal is a poor adjective to describe people because normal in its derivation and in one current meaning means “performing the proper functions.” The Lord Jesus Christ is the only normal human being.
The fact that many Nazi concentration camp staff were quite pleasant staff certainly is my point. You were saying that Planned Parenthood staff generally are nice, and I was saying, “So, what?” There are many nice people, In that sense, Julie is quite right. I would have difficulty entrusting myself to a Nazi physician, somebody who has no scruples about using my fellow human beings for experimental research (abusing them).
Your last sentence couldn’t be more wrong. You wrote, “[Planned Parenthood staff are] just regular medical staff doing what medical staff does–helping their patients.” Regular medical staff do not kill one human being to satisfy the wishes of another or even to make the other more comfortable and able to cope. Regular medical staff used to take the Hippocratic oath to do no harm.
And in the long run, forced (voluntary) abortion doesn’t even help the intended patient, i.e. the mother. Violence begets more violence, and he who digs a pit falls into it.
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Defunding Planned Parenthood is great. But before you support the renewal of the Texas Women’s Health Program, make sure you know what it covers (and what it doesn’t). It is a program almost entirely dedicated to providing government funded contraception to low-income women – some of which is abortifacient and carcinogenic. It is not a comprehensive health care program. The “screenings” it “might” provide are related to the prescription of birth control. No treatment is covered. Please see the state’s website for more information. http://www.hhsc.state.tx.us/help/WHP/index.shtml
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