Let’s tax abortions
And so if I have this right: The Federal Government may now levy a special tax on me if I do not comply with their specific directives about what I should buy, or do?
Can they tax abortions at a high rate?
If I don’t eat broccoli, they can assign a special tax, right? After all, it’s just a little tax. I have the choice to either eat broccoli or pay the tax.
They can do that, right?
…The government may now, per Justice Roberts, assign special taxes on people if they do not live their lives the way the government prefers.
~ Ace of Spades, reeling from the Supreme Court’s ruling on Obamataxcare, June 28

The government has always had the right to tax – why is this new to people? If it had been passed specifically as a tax, it wouldn’t have even been a constitutional question.
EX-GOP, the constitution allows direct taxes, but direct taxes must be apportioned by state (basically, every person must pay the exact same flat amount). This isn’t even a tax in the first place but a fine, and if it were a tax it’s a direct tax on every citizen (a capitation), and moreover it didn’t even originate in the House as all taxing and spending bills must, and if it is a tax that it should not have been ruled on until 2014 per the Anti-Injuction Act. The decision was pure BS. Why is a document that is our country’s foundation so new to people and the Chief Justice?
The government was never intended to have the right to tax whatever the hell it wanted. If you think that it was, you need to read our founding documents more closely. And perhaps The Federalist Papers as well. This ruling is wrong. Not just morally, but Constitutionally. It isn’t the first time the Supremes have been wrong, Constitutionally, either.
With all the Black caucus members and Pelosi stunting last night, plus this fiasco of a ruling, I think Mitt Romney is having breakfast in bed this morning. What a bunch of clowns.
”Can they tax abortions at a high rate?”
May a suggest $1 trillion per abortion?
I heard that over in China they have a 2nd child tax. Pay $4,000 and you will be allowed to have more than one kid…get pregnant otherwise…and you are gifted with an abortion and a free complimentary sterilization as a bonus. This is all because the Chinese leaders have compassion for their people.
Perhaps we here in Amerika can tax abortions to help make them “rare and legal” like the Libs say they want. $5,000 state tax per first trimester abortion – or maybe $10,000 – what’s a fetal life worth these days $100,000? To be fair a sliding scale so the poor are only taxed $100. Teens can be made exempt because everyone knows their abortions are absolutely necessary.
For those who hold the value of a human life as relative to their usefulness or wantedness or conciseness these ideas are probably making sense. Might be an easy sale to Obama and company he like taxes that can be described as something else.
“The government was never intended to have the right to tax whatever the hell it wanted.”
You’re right. That’s why there are institutional checks on this happening, like the direct election of legislators (including senators since the passing of the 17th Amendment) and the presidential veto.
Whatever is in the ‘bama kool aid must be very strong. There is no other rational explanation for the deliberate blindness and ignorance of people who are swallowing this shell game hook, line, and STINKER.
joan, you also can’t use taxation to do an end run around the Constitution, for example, a non-violation violation of the 3rd amendment by taxing people that refuse to put up troops in their homes. They can’t logically say Congress mandating you to engage in commerce is wrong, but they can tax you if you don’t engage in commerce. In essence, they can do whatever they want, even violate free speech or the “right to abortion” in the emanation of the penumbras, as long as they promise they’ll only confiscate your property but not throw you in jail. It doesn’t make any sense, and it never really was supposed to. Even the four liberals on the Court wouldn’t have cooked up a convoluted decision like that.
A tax for NOT having an abortion is probably the direction this health”care” stuff is headed …
They will continue to shape who the “we” is that they will have to take care of. They are officially in our uteri now.
I’m still reading through the opinions, including the dissents, but Robert’s opinion is not as broad and wild as it first appears, although the devil is in the details. The broadness of Congress’s power of taxation is another issue that will require specific legal battle – consider this simply a preview of coming attractions.
Effectively, the court can only rule on what’s before it. The questions specifically regarding taxation can only be raised when that portion of the bill goes into effect. Suing on future taxation isn’t actionable.
That may be moot because effectively the whole thing may be repealed or chopped to pieces before the first taxation penalty is assessed, however, if it does go into effect, lawsuits can then be raised to address the specific issue of whether Congress can regulate non-behavior (which is failure to purchase insurance.) Again if possible, Roberts will generate an opinion that draws some pretty clear (and judicially long lasting) guidelines regarding taxation.
There’s going to be a whole series of repercussions due to this decision (and the passage of the ACA), and realistically I think Roberts has a plan to referee not only his body of Justices, but also provide some ground rules to the people.
Obama, Pelosi et al avoided the word tax within the document, but now it’s obvious the emperor has no clothes. That will have a huge impact on public motivation to legislatively straighten out the health-insurance mess our Congress has developed over the years.
In other words, this thing is a long way from over.
Also – a general rule of thumb, if it took x years to get us into this mess, it will take x years to get us out.
Ex-GOP has no problem with Dems being absolutely morally bankrupt. Obama the Lying Destroyer of Freedom told us that Obamacare was NOT a tax. Now the SCOTUS ruled it Constitutional because it’s a tax. And the Dems say they were right! Extreme dishonesty, extreme immorality, WHATEVER IT TAKES to put Dems in power is what they do.