Memo to FBI: Back away from pro-lifers
News about the visit the FBI paid to son-in-law Andy Moore is getting around – as far as New Zealand.
Today Andy’s attorneys, the Life Legal Defense Foundation, sent a letter to the FBI accusing it and President Obama’s Department of Justice of attempting to intimidate pro-life activists around the country:
Moreover, the government is on notice that the collusion between government agents and abortion clinic providers has been brought to light. The concerted efforts to systematically violate the free speech rights of these pro-life advocates, via fabricated FACE cases, will not be tolerated by our federal court system. We are aware of the stern warning issued by Judge Ryskamp in the U.S. v. Pine (10-CV-80971) matter that the government’s baseless FACE allegations unjustifiably burden a person’s First Amendment rights. Any further action taken by your agency to interfere with my client’s constitutionally protected free speech activities will be met with immediate legal action against the government in U.S. District Court.
Further evidence of the conspiracy between the government and the abortion business was made public when LLDF learned that the FBI set up a training program for police officers who are called to respond to conflicts between abortion businesses and pro-life demonstrators. Even more, the very training manual for the FBI event was written by Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation. To make matters worse your agency has listed pro-life activists as domestic terrorists simply because of their viewpoint on abortion.
LLDF sent a copy of its letter to the U.S. House Oversight Committee. As the letter states, the Obama administration is engaging in “McCarthy era surveillance and scrutiny of people because of their supposedly differing ideologies.”
This has become so obvious a Congressional investigation is in order.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Even more, the very training manual for the FBI event was written by Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation.
Holy freaking… WHAT?!?
Government over-reach is getting worse and worse. From invading Amish farms and organic grocers for selling raw milk, to intimidation of “unfavored” causes such as the pro-life movement and the Tea Party. This election truly is the most important of our lifetime.
Way to go, LLDF!! :) That’s so wonderful.
Where can I donate?!
“Government over-reach is getting worse and worse”
And criminalizing abortion is the ultimate government over- reach – not to mention the anti choice laws which restrict access to a surgical procedure no different from removal of any body part. Talk about the ultimate “big brother.”
LibertyBelle, I’m sure your question is music to LLDF’s ears. Donate here: http://www.lldf.org/donate/ And thanks!
CC says: “a surgical procedure no different from removal of any body part.”
Bwahahahaha! Who do you think you’re fooling?
Thanks, Jill. My husband & I will give what we can. You and your family are covered in prayers…. I’m sure this is a difficult time.
Memo to “pro-lifers”: don’t give the FBI any reason to monitor you and it won’t have to.
Oh.. good grief, CC! You’re getting more ridiculous by the day! You should spend less time HERE, and more time doing some actual RESEARCH. You’re too busy being Planned Parenthood’s little parrot to actually find out THE TRUTH of the matter on your own.
“laws which restrict access to a surgical procedure no different from removal of any body part.”
As the Dread Pirate Roberts would say: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
By the logic of CC that would mean for it not to be government overreach the government should repeal all laws against murder, rape, abuse, assault, battery, kidnapping, stealing and other things that violate our rights to life, liberty and property.
“…a surgical procedure no different from removal of any body part.”
Damn! Had I just waited a few months before chopping my arm off, it would’ve detached ITSELF from my body and been off on its merry way, to seek its fortune in this world! WHAT A TRAGEDY! I SHOULD PROTEST HOSPITALS THAT DO AMPUTATIONS!!!
Oh, wait, no. That never would’ve happened and there would be no need to protest amputations, because an abortion is nothing whatsoever like an amputation.
CC appears to just be blathering from her anus. Again.
We’ve got to vote BHO out or this kind of “interventions” by law enforcement (under the DOJ) will become more and more common.
BHO’s gotta go!
CCurate says: July 26, 2012 at 12:43 pm
…”not to mention…laws which restrict access to an surgical procedure
no different from removal of any body part.”
My GOD woman!
Are you the first surviving donor from a brain transplant surgery?
I don’t know if there are laws that prohibit doctors from lopping off perfectly healthy body parts, but I have to believe the vast majority of physicians would refuse to do so. [There is something in the hipporcatic oathe about ‘do no harm’.]
And I am equally certain ethical surgeons would not remove organs or limbs from a woman’s perfectly healthy child just because she demanded they do it.
What perfectly healthy organ or limb are you willing to part with?
joan of arcania says: July 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm “Memo to “pro-lifers”: don’t give the FBI any reason to monitor you and it won’t have to.”
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Joaint too smart,
Typical superficial thinking by the loons on left. They don’t like the message so their solution is to silence the messanger thru intimidation.
I have to believe you are not that stupid or foolish. Your scatulation is more the result of your bitter cold heart.
Andy Moore did not give the FBI any reason to monitor him, yet they are. Funny how that works.
You’re an FBI agent with an inside knowledge of the case, apparently.
“Body part” – refers to internal organs. If my uterus hadn’t been problematic, I still would have had it removed. But in a perfect “pro-life” world, would you allow a woman, in her early 40’s, to remove a perfectly good baby machine? I mean there’s potential life there.
“By the logic of CC that would mean for it not to be government overreach the government should repeal all laws against murder, rape, abuse, assault, battery, kidnapping, stealing and other things that violate our rights to life, liberty and property.”
So abortion – which involves the decision of one woman regarding HER body, is the same as murder, rape, abuse, etc? Really? All those crimes involve the post-born and not even the bible believers in Mississippi believe that the “pre-born” are entitled to the same rights as the post -born.
And regarding the “conspiracy” we have only one side of the story. For all we know,
Andy Moore might be connected to some anti-abortion radical extremists whose views might have triggered an FBI watch. Too bad that the FBI wasn’t able to monitor Scott Roeder and all the other crazies who killed in the name of the fetus. But yeah, I’m sure the FBI are quaking in their boots after having received a letter from the “life” legal group – not exactly Alan Dershowitz.
“Thanks, Jill. My husband & I will give what we can. You and your family are covered in prayers…. I’m sure this is a difficult time.”
How convenient. Ms. Stanek’s son-in-law is the victim of a “conspiracy” and the legal fund is not getting contributions thanks to a blog posting. LOL.
I’m guessing that in a post-9/11 society, a foreign political activist suddenly marrying an American citizen and moving to the United States in order to continue his political activism there might just raise a few red flags with law enforcement, for some weird reason. Of course, Jill Stanek makes it sound like they were tapping his phone line and following him everywhere in a black, unmarked sedan instead of merely paying him a simple house call where they clearly identified their purpose in visiting. Very nefarious stuff.
“I’m guessing that in a post-9/11 society”
This has something to do with 9/11 now?
Joan, although you are pro-choice, you have written some reasonable posts. Don’t you think what the administration has done is wrong? Doesn’t it worry you?
“This has something to do with 9/11 now?”
Heightened law enforcement scrutiny of potential foreign threats has something to do with 9/11, yes. Do I need to spell out why that might be?
“Don’t you think what the administration has done is wrong? Doesn’t it worry you?”
What has the administration done here wrong? The executive branch enforces the law. Investigating possible violations of the law is part of that responsibility.
It seems Mr. Moore has stated that he takes pictures of clinic workers and posts them on websites. While the article didn’t cite the websites, if they are those “wanted, dead or alive” things, that’s a big problem. It’s also a problem if the workers didn’t give their permission for the photos to be taken. But privacy isn’t a concern for the pro-life movement so it’s all good…
I would assume that the pro-life folks here would have no problem with the surveillance of non resident Muslims who harass those who are engaging in lawful activity or who take photos of government employees and buildings. Right?
CC, time and time again it seems biology is truly head-scratching stuff for you. A “body part” is a part of the body, not just an internal organ. My big toe is part of my body but it is not one of my internal organs. My baby, when he was unborn was ALSO not one of my internal organs, nor was he a part of my body.
Abortion is NOT the removal of part of your body. And frankly I could care less if they removed your uterus. Why do you think we would give a flip? You that narcissistic?
How convenient. Ms. Stanek’s son-in-law is the victim of a “conspiracy” and the legal fund is not getting contributions thanks to a blog posting. LOL.
CC, do you think Jill arranged for the FBI to go to her son-in-law’s house? Or perhaps she asked people to pretend to be FBI agents and go to her son-in-law’s house? Or perhaps the whole thing is a ruse and no FBI agents actually showed up? Perhaps Jill doesn’t even have a son-in-law? Maybe Jill isn’t even a real person, and the Republicans made her up?
“It seems Mr. Moore has stated that he takes pictures of clinic workers and posts them on websites.”
Something else interesting from your link that Jill Stanek failed to mention anywhere: her son-in-law received a visit not only from the FBI, but also the Texas Department of Public Safety, an executive agency in a deep red state. Clearly Eric Holder or some equally nefarious Obama Administration official is pulling the DPS’s strings from behind the scene somehow.
So abortion – which involves the decision of one woman regarding HER body and the body of the fetus…
There. Fixed it for you CC. I know it must be truly inconvenient for you to admit that two bodies are involved in an abortion.
Andy Moore has given the FBI, DOJ, INS and Homeland Security EVERY reason to monitor him and Ms. Stanek. She meets him in New Zealand, introduces him to her daughter over the internet, they have an instant connection fall in love over the internet, then he comes over here starts protesting abortions and just 2 weeks before his holiday visa is to expire Jills daughter and Andy elope because its to expensive for them to fly back and forth(re:jillstanek.com/2011/07) and its just to much paperwork. Now he’s not even in this country barely a year. He is an immigrant who is technically not even legally an American yet. Never paid a full years taxes yet, and probably doesn’t have a job, and yet he is protesting and harassing American Citizens? No one thinks he should be investigated?! He ‘s above the law and suspicion because he’s supposedly pro-life!? I totally support the Government on this! Who is this guy ,whats his true motives? Who is he to protest anything in the United States theres plenty of pro-life work to do in New Zealand and Australia he don’t like it he can go home.
Martin, who are you? How come you know so many things about Jill and Andy?
I see you spend quite a bit of time investigating.
Do you do this as a profession?
Careful…because you might be a potential target of FBI investigations too.
She meets him in New Zealand,
Egads! Not New Zealand! Say it isn’t so!
introduces him to her daughter over the internet, they have an instant connection fall in love over the internet,
A parent introducing their child to other people? What is our country coming to? Who’d think, in this day and age, that people meet over the internet? Is this even plausible?
then he comes over here starts protesting abortions and just 2 weeks before his holiday visa is to expire Jills daughter and Andy elope because its to expensive for them to fly back and forth
because the young love birds are not millionaires should certainly raise a red flag! Eloping? I think that was outlawed in the 80s.
and its just to much paperwork.
We all know that people who are overwhelmed by paperwork are trouble with a capital T.
Now he’s not even in this country barely a year.
I know, right. You have to be in our country at least two years before you are let out of your apartment.
He is an immigrant who is technically not even legally an American yet.
It is a requirement for all born here in America to technically hate immigrants.
Never paid a full years taxes yet, and probably doesn’t have a job,
This man should be paying a full year of taxes before he is even here a whole year. Who would have a hard time understanding this concept? No job? the gall. That just leaves me speechless.
and yet he is protesting and harassing American Citizens?
We know this scary man is harassing Americans because Martin said so. Protesting of any sort is so against what America is all about, too. Off with his head!
CC, abortion is taking life of the unborn and thus fall into category of murder the government is oblige to write laws against.
inaCCurate says: July 26, 2012 at 6:27 pm
“If my uterus hadn’t been problematic, I still would have had it removed.”
inConCeivable ContraCeptionista,
The only women I have ever heard of who could get a surgeon to remove a perfectly healthy uterus are those who are submitting to gender re-assignment surgery.
You are in sympatico with some really tortured souls.
I am almost moved to thank you for removing the possibility of your DNA turning the human gene pool into a hazardous waste dump, but I do have a re-collection of your prior claim to motherhood.
At least you did your small part to limit the damage.
CanCerous says: July 26, 2012 at 6:58 pm
I would assume that the pro-life folks here would have no problem with the surveillance of non resident Muslims who harass those who are engaging in lawful activity or who take photos of government employees and buildings. Right?
If Andy Moore is in the country illegally, then I have no problem with him being deported as soon as legally possible.
If he has or is committing a crime, then I have no problem with him being cited and taken into custody if thats what the law requires/permits.
Your problem is your psychotic break is so severe that you can longer distinguish between reality and your own paranoid delusions.
Or you could be deliberately perverting the truth to satisfy the needs of your own bigotted views.
joan of arcania says: July 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm “Memo to “pro-lifers”: don’t give the FBI any reason to monitor you and it won’t have to.”
The FBI is part of the executive branch of the federal government and as such does the bidding of the occupant of the white house or the Attorney General.
The only reason the FBI needs is a nod and wink from someone with a higher pay grade than them.
They will resolve any constitutional issues as they may arise.
What is Andy’s immigration status? Is he here on a student visa? Tourist visa? Legal Permanent Resident (takes a while to get that status if you’re not a refugee) Does he have temporary status because he’s married to an American and has a baby with her? Maybe INS should be involved?
CC said “Maybe INS should be involved?”
call them: 1-800-767-1833
Love it, Andy.
Praxedes:
“I know, right. You have to be in our country at least two years before you are let out of your apartment.” Hilarious!
Martin:
Hate immigrants much?