Pro-life vid of day: Victoria Jackson – “If I was raped I’d have the baby”
by LauraLoo
Report from The Huffington Post:
Victoria Jackson, the former SNL star who hadn’t made headlines in years until she vocally embraced the Tea Party, recently weighed in on the Todd Akin “legitimate rape” controversy.
In the October 2 episode of The Victoria Jackson Show she stated, “If I was raped, I would have the baby and think of it as God making a blessing out of something bad.” The statement was part of an intro to an interview with Rebecca Kiessling, a woman who says she was conceived as a result of her mother’s rape and now advocates for Personhood Mississippi on their “Conceived In Rape” tour.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC8Q1OEeiOk[/youtube]
Rebecca’s life is certainly a testimony both to the grace of God, as well as her undeniable calling for the pro-life movement.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
People always criticize me for suggesting we try to prevent pregnancies through rape. However, the fact is that it would be a rare girl or woman who, after being raped, would be disappointed when her menstrual period came.
One woman begged an attacker, “Please talk to me for awhile so I’ll know you’re not a monster.” The attacker talked with her. He raped her in a manner that can’t cause pregnancy. It was still a terrible crime but the fact is that she did not want to be pregnant by her rapist and was glad that at least she did not have to worry about a late menstrual period.
Are ANY girls or women disappointed when their menstrual period is on time after a rape?
Do ANY rape victims really WANT to GET pregnant by their attackers?
I’m not questioning that many are willing to carry to term. I am suggesting that very few would like to get pregnant in the first place from an attack.
DeniseNoe, I am a child molestation survivior, by the technical legal definition of rape I am a rape survivior, although I rarely consider myself to have been ‘raped’. Of course as a child my childish fears of ‘could this get me pregnant?’ were completely baseless, so I have never truly dealt with the question you pose, however I feel I have enough information to be able to form a legitimate answer from my own perspective. If I was raped today yes, I would rather it result in a pregnancy, because then I would have the pregnancy and the child to help me heal from the rape, because, having been pregnant 3 times, I know feeling the new life growing inside me and holding the precious, completely innocent newborn in my arms WOULD help me heal, and I know my husband would accept and love the child as his own. I do not know if it could properly be said I would be ‘disapointed’ if I got my period since I know conception after rape is rare and I would be expecting such, but I would be molified and quietly relieved if I did turn up pregnant.
No, I don’t think my foresight prespective is common, but I do believe that the majority of women (not all but majority) would/will find a pregnancy after a rape a healing thing. This is backed up by survivior testimony. Rape is not a ‘hard case’ for abortion, because we could not do better than to support a woman through a rape-conceived pregnancy, and I will never understand why pro-life supporters shrink from it. Real life rape victims have spoken, abortion doesn’t help, it hurts.
Rebecca’s story is amazing she has helped so much to put a face to the “exceptions” issue that so many even in the Pro-life movement have. She makes so many great points in her speeches. You can see videos of her speeches on Youtube these are a couple of my favorites where she makes some of the best points I have ever heard to shoot down the pro-abortion in cases of rape and incest …
http://youtu.be/6TL6aQVTOx8
http://youtu.be/0JshIv3WVRM
Rape and incest only account for 1% of abortions in the U.S. But people fail to look at the fact in their empathy for the woman who is raped that the child is a victim as well and it is completely innocent and doesn’t deserve to die because of the sin of it’s father. It’s part her as well. And the women who are raped don’t need to be traumatized and victimized even more by an abortion after their rape. They can give the baby up for adoption if they don’t want to or can not raise it themselves. Two wrongs will never make a right.
http://voiceforhope.blogspot.com
Because I have had 2 friends conceive from rape (one gave birth and healed, one aborted and has not healed) my husband and I have talked about what we would do if I was raped (please God forbid!) and conceived.
It is horrifying to contemplate. I shudder to think of such a violation. But I would not abort. How could I knowing about the development of my baby and what an abortion would do to that baby? My husband said he would not want to keep the baby and raise the child. I would probably find a good Christian couple who wanted to adopt and lovingly place my baby with them. But I know it would tear a piece of my heart out to give my baby up even if that baby was the result of rape. That would still be MY baby. My only consolation would be in knowing my baby was loved and well taken care of. And my door would always be open to a relationship with my child when he/she was older.
I have actually thought about this issue a lot. So heartbreaking.
Sydney M says:
October 20, 2012 at 3:41 am
Because I have had 2 friends conceive from rape (one gave birth and healed, one aborted and has not healed) my husband and I have talked about what we would do if I was raped (please God forbid!) and conceived.
(Denise) If you were sexually attacked and your menstrual period came on time, would you be disappointed that the rapist had not impregnated you?
Really Denise?
Sometimes, most of the time, I really wonder about you.
Carla says:
October 20, 2012 at 8:41 am
Really Denise?
Sometimes, most of the time, I really wonder about you.
(Denise) If you were raped, and your menstrual period came on time, would you be disappointed that you were not pregnant by the attacker?
I think it is an obvious — and rather common sense — question.
I think you are disturbed.
If the questions I ask are valid, my mental disturbance is irrelevant. The message may be valid regardless of who the messenger is.
Do rapists ever become better people through relationships with children they father?
An obvious- and common sense question?
Hardly, Denise. It’s a very ODD question.
Since many (most?) rapes are “total stranger” rapes, how would a rapist even know he “fathered” a child?
Pamela says:
October 20, 2012 at 10:50 pm
An obvious- and common sense question?Hardly, Denise. It’s a very ODD question.
(Denise) When I said an obvious and common sense question, I referred to: “Are rape victims ever DISAPPOINTED when their menstrual period comes on time and they realize they are NOT pregnant by the rapist?”
<<Since many (most?) rapes are “total stranger” rapes, how would a rapist even know he “fathered” a child?>>
(Denise) He knows it is generally possible since most rapists target women in the reproductive age range. When a woman hits 50, her chances of being raped decline dramatically. However, if she is raped, her chances of being murdered afterward go up dramatically. Rapists who target post-menopausal women are rare but are the most homicidal.
At its base, rape occurs because male sexuality becomes:
1) Severed from empathy and/or
2) Fused with rage.
Post-menopausal victims may be more likely to be attacked by those in the second category and, thus, more likely to get killed.
It is also possible that older victims are more likely to be murdered because the rapists can’t impregnate them. The possibility of impregnating may keep some attackers from murdering a victim either because he views the pregnancy as a way of extending her suffering and his power over her or because at some level he wants to continue his genetic line through siring babies. That young victim might be the mother of his child 9 months from now — he lets her live. That gray-haired old bag can’t possibly do that — might as well shut her up permanently and snuff her.
Rapists can find out they’ve sired children if they are caught and imprisoned. Convicted rapists can be legally forced to pay child support.
Even psychopaths can often be caring and loving toward their own children. This may be because while they lack empathy with other people, they view the child as in some sense an extension of themselves.
Rapists are people and to some extent capable of change. I wonder if any study has been done to see if they change for the better through their relationships with the children they father.
” Even psychopaths can often be caring and loving toward their own children. This may be because while they lack empathy with other people, they view the child as in some sense an extension of themselves. ”
Someone has never been raised by a psychopath.
JackBorsch says:
October 22, 2012 at 5:09 am
” Even psychopaths can often be caring and loving toward their own children. This may be because while they lack empathy with other people, they view the child as in some sense an extension of themselves. ” Someone has never been raised by a psychopath.
(Denise) I was terribly mistreated while growing up and have a severe psychiatric disorder as a result.
I didn’t say psychopaths are always “caring and loving toward their own children” only that they CAN be.
Do you think rapists might improve through relationships with the children they sire?
Denise,
I wouldn’t recommend it, primarily for the child’s sake.
xalisae says:
October 22, 2012 at 6:31 am
Denise,I wouldn’t recommend it, primarily for the child’s sake.
(Denise) You may be right. I was just putting this out as a question and a possibility. There might be a possibility of harm to the child because of a relationship with a rapist-father. I don’t wish to be flippant, but he is hardly in a position to teach good morals and ethics.
Or, you know, he could turn his rapist tendencies on the kid. I really don’t think rapists should ever have access to their kids unless they are heavily supervised.
I put this question out there because it seems like it is at least POSSIBLE that such men might improve through their relationships with their children. Otherwise despicable people of both sexes CAN — not always but CAN — be protective and caring toward their own children. A rapist MIGHT learn to care about other people through a relationship with a son or daughter. His character could improve and such a relationship help toward rehabilitation.
Of course, his influence could be negative. Many years ago I read about a father-son rob and rape team. The article didn’t say the boy was conceived in a rape, only that this 13-year-old boy acted as Dad’s partner in robbing and raping people. Like his Dad, the 13-year-old robbed people of both sexes and raped female victims.