Planned Parenthood has opposed other anti-infanticide legislation: IL Born Alive Act
~ “Blessed” Obama’s opposition
Planned Parenthood’s recent opposition to Florida legislation seeking to protect abortion survivors sent shock waves around the country.
But this wasn’t the first time Planned Parenthood had opposed such legislation.
Planned Parenthood also actively fought Illinois’ Born Alive Infants Protection Act in the early 2000s, along with then state Senator Barack Obama. This legislation was introduced to protect known abortion survivors.
In fact, Planned Parenthood and Obama worked together as a team. From ABC News, July 17, 2007:
When Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, voted “present,” rather than “yes” or “no” on a handful of controversial abortion votes in the Illinois state senate, he did so with the explicit support of the president and CEO of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council.
“We at Planned Parenthood view those as leadership votes,” Pam Sutherland, the president and CEO of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, told ABC News. “We worked with him specifically on his strategy. The Republicans were in control of the Illinois Senate at the time. They loved to hold votes on ‘partial birth’ and ‘born alive’. They put these bills out all the time… because they wanted to pigeonhole Democrats.”…
Sutherland said Obama approached her in the late 1990s and worked with her and others in crafting the strategy of voting “present.” She remembers meeting with Obama outside of the Illinois Senate chambers on the Democratic side of the aisle. She and Obama finished their conversation in his office.
“He came to me and said: ‘My members are being attacked. We need to figure out a way to protect members and to protect women,’” said Sutherland in recounting her conversation with Obama. “A ‘present’ vote was hard to pigeonhole which is exactly what Obama wanted.”
Obama indeed voted “present” on the Senate floor in 2001 for the Born Alive Act, SB1095, and two companion bills, SB1093 and SB1094. (Obama voted “no” on the Born Alive Act in committee that year, in committee and on the Senate floor in 2002, and in committee in 2003 – a total of four times.)
Planned Parenthood and Obama still opposed the Born Alive Act in 2003 – when it was worded identically to federal Born Alive legislation that had passed unanimously in the U.S. Senate, overwhelmingly in the U.S. House, and for which even NARAL went neutral. Click to enlarge…
LifeNews.com noted on April 5 that in testimony on the aforementioned Florida Born Alive legislation, bill sponsor, Dr. Cary Pigman, cited perinatal infant mortality data indicating that in 2010 there were 1,270 infants reported born alive pursuant to botched abortions, “and I emphasize reported,” testified Dr. Pigman. So post-abortion infanticide is obviously much more prevalent than abortion supporters would have us believe.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I’m sick…am I allowed to be?
I believe anyone who supports this act of Satan ought to have to stand and watch it from start to finish.
Like I have stated here before “This is the most pro-death (not just pro-abort) president to have ever held the hightest office” and the American people drunk the Kool-aid when Jill exposed him and they all lied to get him elected.” But now they re-elected him to office. God help us.
I want to know how the pro-choicers are justifying this so I can destroy their arguments. You can’t use body autonomy, the baby is born already, it’s not using the mother’s body at all. All I can think of is the nonsense about “quality of life” and such, which is pretty terrible reasoning.
Right we’ve gone from pro choice to murder. I guess if my 3 year old misbehaves there will soon be a law passed so I can legally kill him.
Look at all of the women who’ve commited infanticide and got a slap on the wrist. Amy Grossberg tossed her born LIVING baby into a dumpster. Cause of death skull fractures from shaken baby syndrome.
Amy just performed a do it yourself abortion. She HATED that baby. Asked God in letters “Make it go away. It has ruined my life.”
Amy has never visited her baby’s grave and shrugs it off as a miscarriage.
And neither have her parents …poor little boy…snobs!!
Prom mom Melissa Drexler got very little time. She threw her baby in the trash at the prom. I hear she is now married with children. I wouldn’t want a mother like her!!! Oh when I was 18 I chucked your brother in the trash.
At least Amy….now in her 30s has never had anymore children.
And after Drexler delivered she ran to the dance floor after requesting the Metallica song “I done the unforgivable .” Until the cleaning lady found the dead baby. What is wrong with these people ??
Drexler was taking a long time in the stall and told her friend. She was having a heavy period. She then danced the night away! How? I bled like crazy after childbirth!!
Amy might have gotten away with it also had it not been for the poor dears eclampsia which almost killed her too.
I could go on but I won’t These 2 cases happened in 96 abortion was available . These are 2 of many. Not giving stiff punishment sends the wrong message. Come on America throw the book at them!! Its MURDER!!
As someone posted on another blog about Grossberg. “Amy can promote her greeting card business. breathe and attend lavish parties. What can the baby do?”
One last thing. After discovering Amy had been pregnant they were disgusted with her because she kept lying . Her only ?? to the ER staff was “Am I going to be okay ?” “Am I going to make it?” Knowing the baby was good and dead in below freezing temperatures in that dumpster it was all about her!
Some nurses in the ER did not want to take care of her but they had to.
We liberals want to play God. This includes calling the shots as far as how society is organized (no to the influences of the nukelar family and the role of religion), who gets to live, and who gets to die. I suspect that if each of us don’t have God in his right place in our values, we end up compelled to re-create everything God has created. Morality, etc.
Hats off to the TN judge who put that woman away for years . You killed your 2 living babies lady now deal with your double homicide sentence. You got what you deserved. I hope other judges start taking lessons from you. Especially since the safe haven law was passed. You didn’t have to choose to kill your children .
Elizabeth Johnson killed baby Gabriel. She has one more year to go on her sentence. She’s been locked up for 5 years. I mean that’s IT?? She killed him and threw him in the garbage to spite his father.
Another incompetent judge.
@Heather: Women don’t always get off easily for killing kids. Myra Hindley, the female half of Britain’s infamous Moors Murderers, served over 40 years before dying in prison for her part in the serial murders of kids.
A woman who is a nanny, babysitter, or day care center worker and loses her temper with a kid with fatal results may be very severely punished. She is a paid caregiver and expected to either do her job adequately or not take the job in the first place. Thus, acts of temper or distraction might be severely punished.
OTOH, a teen girl or woman who finds herself pregnant and kills immediately at birth will tend to be dealt with lightly. For example, the Roman Catholic nun who inspired “Agnes of God” was found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. It tends to be assumed that MOTHERS who commit infanticide must be suffering from a terrible mental disorder. This is because we all know a powerful bond is formed by pregnancy. Thus, someone must have been seriously mentally derailed to kill HER OWN child (rather than a child she was paid to care for).
Another reason mothers who kill newborns may be treated leniently is that people of both sexes feel a need to compensate females for certain biological realities. Why did the Equal Rights Amendment fail to pass? Phyllis Schlafly argued that “legislators should be able to compensate women for the biological inequalities” imposed by the truth that females are the only ones who get pregnant. She argued it was justifiable to hold the husband responsible for a family’s financial support since he did not get pregnant or give birth.
Similarly, we all know that it is usually MALES who seek the sort of sex that leads to pregnancy; females who pay the biological price for it. Lenient treatment of mothers who kill newborns is another form of compensation for this biological difference between the sexes.
Heather,
Are you ok?
Carla I assure you I’m fine! I’m disgusted that women get away with this..aren’t you?
@Heather: what do u think of my points?
myra hindley died in prison.
Carla if you don’t see incarceration as a fit punishment for murdering her already born children then what have you to say about any other murderer? I’m curious.
I am asking about YOU not about women that murder their children.
This entire thread is yours Heather. You brought up all of the stories.
I am just wondering why.
That is why I asked if you are ok.
I know a guy who got 7 years for several B and Es He never killed anyone . So do you feel he should be let out of prison because he did NOT kill a soul. Are you telling me these girls don’t deserve punishment? And if not why not? If so what is appropriate?
Cuz its about infanticide. That’s why and it isn’t about ME its about women who killed their children .
I am asking how you are because you are ranting.
You have taken over this whole thread and now demanding that I argue with you about appropriate punishment for women who kill their children.
Sorry. Not getting sucked into this one today.
Denise Jodi Arias is mentally ill. Should she be set free? Anyone can make that claim . A crime is a crime is a crime isn’t it?
Carla i am not ranting ..omg I’m outta here today!
“Similarly, we all know that it is usually MALES who seek the sort of sex that leads to pregnancy;”
NO, we don’t “all know” that. You just keep insisting that and pretending it’s an universally accepted truth.
I’m a lousy lurker…
Perhaps Barry Sotero sees children as a kind of invader, colonizing the mother’s womb and plundering her resources. I’m kind of joking, but Barry isn’t. He’s dead serious.
D’oh! I know I said i would stop engaging in Denise’s nonsense, but it’s a tough habit to break.
I know what you mean, JDC. I’ve been trying so hard not to argue, but I chewed through the duct tape holding the mittens onto my hands!
Denise, I don’t think you understand human sexuality very well. Not gonna go the JDC route and get drawn in further to this conversation lol.
It HAS to be males who seek sexual intercourse.
Oh dear, Denise. I don’t know where you get your information, but you are just plain wrong there. Women can and DO initiate sex. Oy vey. Truly, try to imagine a world where many women enjoy sex just as much as many men…because that’s the world you inhabit. Stop pretending otherwise.
Denise has a point that women bear the biological cost of most sexual activity far more than men do (STD risk is higher, obviously pregnancy), but she doesn’t seem to understand that women have sex drives and “seek the sort of sex that leads to pregnancy” quite often. I’d wager they do close to the amount that men do, at least in relationships.
Hi Denise Noe,
It is me. Carla. I think your posts cross the line. And when they do I delete them.
And you know this. We have been over it a thousand times.
If this were my blog you would be banned. But it’s not my blog.
You post only to stir things up. The same questions. The same comments.
“sex that leads to pregnancy………” over and over and over.
Please don’t feed the trolls.
“Please don’t feed the trolls.”
I’m sorry, I’ll try to stop from now on.
JDC,
It is not easy. I know.
:)
It is all the cutting and pasting of Denise’s comments that make my deleting them kind of pointless.
LOL
Jack your point is well taken.
Denise I am not going to get in a circular discussion with you but what you keep saying is not true., Studies show WSW (who self-identfy as lesbians) often have sex with men, as much as up to 81% have had sex with men in a 3 year period in some studies, this is consensual sex Denise, not rape. So your screwed up theory (pun intended) of WSW is just as or more satisfying as WSM is baloney for most women otherwise why would these women bother. I just have to ask. What is your underlying motivation for trying to solicit WSW instead of WSM? You seem obsessed with this idea.
I am so sorry Carla. I should not have fed the troll and I will try not to do it again. Please forgive me. I just felt I had to correct what she keeps saying because the research does not back it up and someone especially a young person may think she knows what she is talking about.
Prolifer L says:
April 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Jack your point is well taken.Denise I am not going to get in a circular discussion with you but what you keep saying is not true., Studies show WSW (who self-identfy as lesbians) often have sex with men, as much as up to 81% have had sex with men in a 3 year period in some studies, this is consensual sex Denise, not rape. So your screwed up theory (pun intended) of WSW is just as or more satisfying as WSM is baloney for most women otherwise why would these women bother. I just have to ask. What is your underlying motivation for trying to solicit WSW instead of WSM? You seem obsessed with this idea.
(Denise) many things are both cost and benefit. my preference is always for platonic friendships and emphasizing the distinctively human. Obviously, women relating to women doesn’t end with a bloodied bottle of fetal body parts and is unlikely to spread stds. OTOH, lesbian relationships may well have the highest level of physical battery. so? do we want fewer fetuses ripped out of wombs? would we be willing to accept a higher rate of women ending up in emergency rooms because of assault in order to have fewer abortions? These are interesting questions.
@Carla: I am quite genuinely appalled by abortion. I think it is brutal. It absolutely horrifies me. Believe me, if I won the lottery, much of that $ would be channeled into efforts to decrease unplanned pregnancies.
I know that.
I want you to stop expressing every sexual thought or question that you have.
Oral sex, masturbation, etc. etc. etc.
Prolifer L
No worries.
Denise only types to get a reaction.
i don’t type only to get a reaction. i type to make points that i believe are important to decreasing abortions.
One reason abstinence is a hard sell is it is presented falsely: either no sex life or the female gets pregnant each year. This is a false choice.
Heather kept asking why moms who murder newborns tend to be treated leniently. This is not arbitrary. There are reasons for it and I pointed them out.
And again……..
STOP posting about oral sex and masturbation and lesbians.
THAT is what I am saying.
Do you understand that Denise?
I ask you to stop. You never acknowledge that I have asked you.(how many times now??)And you carry on as if your own personal sexual obsessions are of any interest to anyone else at all.
Carla says:
April 10, 2013 at 9:26 am
And again……..
STOP posting about oral sex and masturbation and lesbians.
(Denise) Aren’t all these things preferable to abortion?
What part of STOP are you not understanding Denise????