ABC censors 2nd pro-life ad
On October 10, the National Right to Life Committee announced the ABC Radio Network had refused to run the audio version of the following anti-Obama ad during the Sean Hannity radio show.
NRLC reported ABC emailed that the ad, “while supporting aspects of a Pro-Life position, weighs more heavily toward electioneering.” Well duh. It is indeed an electioneering ad, paid for by NRLC’s Political Action Committee, the function of which is to electioneer, allowed under federal law.
So today LifeNews.com reported that ABC Chicago is refusing to air the ad below, by Caring Outreach…
Jean Synovic, a representative of the Caring Outreach, tells LifeNews.com that ABC, without citing any scientific or medical sources, claimed that the images used in the commercial were not that of an unborn child at 85 days gestation, as the ad states.
Synovic says her group directed ABC officials to medical documentation that verifies the accuracy of the images and informed the network that the ad was aired on three other ABC affiliates in WI and ME….
Synovic says her group has requested a fairness check to make sure that the “accuracy” of those commercials meet the same standards to which ABC holds other commercials.
If the analysis comes back in the group’s favor, she says the group will consider suing the network.
Hope they do. Here’s the ad, which I saw 3x — and loved — over the weekend while watching chick flicks on the Lifetime Network.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I find that many pro-choice folks, and even the apathetic, are quite ignorant when it comes to fetal development. Not only are they ignorant, but they are quite adament about remaining ignorant!
The Other Erin,
Right. Reminds me of Sgt. Schultz on the old TV show “Hogan’s Heroes”. His famous line when confronted with trouble was “I know nothing!”
I guess no one at ABC ever studied fetal development in a textbook, or had an ultrasound.
The fact that they claim that an unborn child cannot look like that at 12 weeks is absolutely remarkable.
I think that if even ABC execs don’t have a clue what unborn children look like, then informed consent laws are very much needed for the REST of society.
What a sweet little ad. It’s interesting the state of denial one has to be in to not acknowledge that little human being in there.
BTW, I watched that Howard Stern clip about two hours ago (the one posted under jasper’s qotd) and found it to be really enlightening. :D
you had me until you mentioned Lifetime TV. Blech.
I love that sweet baby! My fave was at four weeks when you can see the heart beating. Awesome!
That’s a great ad!
The technique used is called embryoscopy. It uses an endoscopic technique to actually video the living baby in the uterus. Given where they are doing this (Yale University – which also trains abortionists), it’s always a wonder how they can continue their abortion training program knowing what they are dealing with.
Here’s the description.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2405681
You’ll find a ton more info if you google:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=Embryoscopy+Yale&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
When people willingly keep their eyes closed and then say they can’t see something – it makes them look stupid.
Jill – it may be worth it to do a followup with Caring Outreach and how the ad came to be.
i am going to be an aunt, again! i went to my sis’s ultrasound today, it was so exciting! even though i have three of my own,it gets me everytime! at 7 wks 6 days, you could see it all right there on the screen, legs, arms, head, body and beating heart! how anyone could say that was not a baby is seriously crazy!
i am going to be an aunt, again
Posted by: becky at October 14, 2008 5:01 PM
“Going to be?” or already are?
“”Going to be?” or already are?”
I think Hal would benefit greatly from having his head placed into a urinal and the lever pulled.
But that might remind him of high school.
Maybe, but I’m just another socially liberal American elitist who thinks that those of you who are pro-life, anti-euthanasia, anti-gay marriage, and regular church-goers are a bunch of freaking lunatics who are barely different from the Taliban.
“”Going to be?” or already are?”
I think Hal would benefit greatly from having his head placed into a urinal and the lever pulled.
But that might remind him of high school.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 14, 2008 5:53 PM
Ah John, your M.O. hasn’t changed much, has it? Mean, nasty, and bullying as a kid, mean, nasty and thrilled at the thought of bullying as an adult. Some people mature, and some, like John, just get older.
” Lifetime TV. Blech.”
Ditto. Although, I am pleased that they would run that ad on their network.
“Maybe, but I’m just another socially liberal American elitist who thinks that those of you who are pro-life, anti-euthanasia, anti-gay marriage, and regular church-goers are a bunch of freaking lunatics who are barely different from the Taliban.”
Come on now Hal, there is a huge difference — I don’t want to kill you for not believing what I do — I just pray for you :)
I think Hal would benefit greatly from having his head placed into a urinal and the lever pulled.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 14, 2008 5:53 PM
****
You could grow up and stop being so grouchy.
Hal,
Your sense of humor seems to be lagging a little bit. I hope you regain your fighting form quickly.
Who are your favorite comediens?
yor bro ken
John,
You dont know if HAL is an eighty year old pistol packing granny or a former professional offensive lineman.
You could be the one who ends up with your head in the toilet.
God is reliable, but HE is not predictable and HE seems to really appreciate irony.
Just be careful. HE might really have an interest in HAL.
HE really does see HAL as valueable.
HE is looking for those who will worship HIM in Spirit and Truth. Part of Truth is honesty and it seems to me HAL is pretty honest. Now HAL might be honestly wrong about some things (Aren’t we all?) but he seems to be pretty consistent in what he believes.
Do what you think is right, but you can’t say you haven’t been warned.
yor bro ken
Acorn registers Mickey Mouse to vote
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece
is he democrat or republican? lol!
They registered all of the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys to vote in Nevada.
ACORN’s slogan;
Vote early, vote repetitively, vote democrat.
yor bro ken
Poor MSM. They run Pizza Hut commercials. No one gets a pizza that looks as good as the picture.
ABC just caved in to hreats from the LEFT.
becky,
Congratulations on the newest baby!! You are already an aunt!!(That was for Hal)
THIS IS THE OCTOBER SUPRISE!!!! LET THERE BE NO DOUBT!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg
Barack Obama IS NOT Eligible to be US President.
A Federal Lawsuit has been filed!
To find out more about this lawsuit, view these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Mg9gW7Pq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-4xpdyRvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywvmIpnHuag
and visit
http://www.obamacrimes.com – 35,000,000 Hits and counting
What does all this mean???
Obama May in fact have been born in Kenya!
http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324
Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmO4-gd8oAU
Obama – Kenyan Born
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZAbqgpoGQ
Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof Prt 2
So What can You Do?????
Blog It! Let People Know About This issue.
Inform the media! Inform your local papers and news stations!
Inform Fox News!
Donate to Philip Berg who is the lawyer driving this case. He needs all the money and support he can get.
Do You want a Kenyan in the White House!?
Do You want an Indonesian in the White House!?
OR
Do want an American in the White House!
Help Support the effort so we can get Barack Obama AKA Barry Soetoro off the ballot!!!!
That ABC is censoring pro-life messages is not a surprise. The MSM has steadfastly refused to speak the plain truth about abortion. If they had the intellectual honesty and professional integrity to report on the reality of abortion and the lasting consequences thousands of women have reported following their abortions then perhaps we would be in a much different position today.
The irony of all of this is the close-mindedness exhibited by liberals and pro-choicers on abortion. Here we have people who consider themselves the intellectual elite of western culture, so very open to science and beholden to superior standards of intellectual rigor. But when shown irrefutable evidence that the “blob of tissue” is most definitely a tiny human being, instead of admitting their error, they instead aggravate it with denials and proceed to talk about the unborn child as a parasite to the woman who doesn’t WANT it, but recognize it as a baby for women who DO want it.
And when we pro-lifers dare to speak on behalf of the innocent unborn who are unable to speak for themselves, when we try to defend the inherent dignity of human life even when some are ready to pull the plug, we are castigated for our beliefs and compared to the taliban.
THIS IS THE OCTOBER SUPRISE!!!! LET THERE BE NO DOUBT!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg
Barack Obama IS NOT Eligible to be US President.
A Federal Lawsuit has been filed!
To find out more about this lawsuit, view these videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Mg9gW7Pq8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-4xpdyRvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywvmIpnHuag
and visit
http://www.obamacrimes.com – 35,000,000 Hits and counting
What does all this mean???
Obama May in fact have been born in Kenya!
http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324
Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmO4-gd8oAU
Obama – Kenyan Born
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZAbqgpoGQ
Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof Prt 2
So What can You Do?????
Blog It! Let People Know About This issue.
Inform the media! Inform your local papers and news stations!
Inform Fox News!
Donate to Philip Berg who is the lawyer driving this case. He needs all the money and support he can get.
Do You want a Kenyan in the White House!?
Do You want an Indonesian in the White House!?
OR
Do want an American in the White House!
Help Support the effort so we can get Barack Obama AKA Barry Soetoro off the ballot!!!!
Hal is worthless. I only regret that I won’t hear about it when he eventually dies, so I won’t be able to dance for joy at the news. Fortunately, tremendous joy will be mine in fifty years or so when Lord Barry passes on into the Eternal Fire.
Am I still joking? Who can tell? And most importantly, who cares?
Based on the last shot from the ad, I doubt that was a 12 week fetus. At 12 weeks, the eyes are still on the sides of the head. The picture at the end shows a fetus whose eyes have clearly finished migrating to the front.
Not that it particularly matters, but the giant closeups to make the fetus look like a full term baby are also a little deceptive.
If the producers are as convinced of the “marketing” value of their/your position as you all pretend, why bother with the deception?
Other Erin, it was found that there is a strong correlation between ignorance about abortion (legal status, number performed, reasons they’re done) and being “prochoice” — and the stronger the confidence in their “misinformation” the stronger their assertion that they’re prochoice!
Chicken or egg? Are they prochoice because of their ignorance? Or are they choosing ignorance to be able to remain prochoice?
12 weeks after conception is the 14th week of pregnancy. Here is one of the most famous photos of a 12-week old (14-week pregnancy) fetus.
Free speech viloations anyone? Class action lawsuit anyone?
Jill, send this to the Allied Defense Fund. http://www.allieddefensefund.org
Deceptive? What is deceptive about the fact that a fetus is a small human?
Christina,
I believe it is both. Once you’ve bought into the pro-choice rhetoric it’s pretty hard to admit you were wrong all those years, cheerleading a woman’s right to kill her own baby. It’s easier to remain ignorant than to (God forbid) admit you were wrong. Isn’t that the sin of pride? One of the deadlies, last time I checked.
Don’t worry; when Lord Barry is elected, he’ll jail everyone in NRLC for “hate crimes”. Then they won’t have to worry about their free speech.
HisMan-
I dont see how its a free speech violation, ABC is a private company afterall and can choose to not accept ads they believe do not meet their criteria for an ad to be aired on their network. Just as private orginizations can turn away clients they feel do not meet the criteria, so to can ABC turn away an ad that doesnt meet their standards.
However, if it does meet their standards, and they refused it because it is a pro-life ad, then I will join in and agree it is a matter of free speech violation and discriminatory.
John Lewandowski at October 14, 2008 8:31 PM
“Am I still joking? Who can tell? And most importantly, who cares?”
I care John. The ONE who gives you breath, is the same ONE who gives HAL and everyone else breath and because HE cares, I care.
It does not matter that anyone else thinks about you. It only matters that HE thinks of you.
yor bro ken
Now I would contribute to running this video in it’s enitirty as a commercial before or after the last debate. At the very least Americans need some comic relief.
yor bro ken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGFPR6H6aE&feature=related
I am wondering out loud that if presented with actual footage of a tiny baby in utero you would question the validity of it because you think the eyes should be on the side of head.
We all have eyes in the front I am assuming and still some of us cannot see.
Carla, it’s a fetus. Yes, it’s human, yes, it’s alive, but it’s a fetus, not a baby.
I was questioning the tactics and the truthtelling of the producers of the ad, not the validity of whether the pictures were of an actual fetus.
For instance, if you really wanted to acurately represent what was being aborted in the vast majority of procedures, why not show this picture:
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/wrtk/graphics/6-weeks.jpg
Or this picture:
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/wrtk/graphics/8-weeks.jpg
Not as cute? Not as marketable?
Maybe, but I’m just another socially liberal American elitist who thinks that those of you who are pro-life, anti-euthanasia, anti-gay marriage, and regular church-goers are a bunch of freaking lunatics who are barely different from the Taliban.
Well, that was mean Hal. Way to generalize and group us all together like we all believe all those things. When you happen to know that’s not true.
John L.,
Grow up, are you a Christian? Have fun chatting with God if you get there about how you’re dancing with joy over other people’s deaths. Seriously, get.a.clue.
Yes, 12 weeks, because only the cute deserve to live. Maybe that’s why the media is always describing the very-average-looking Michelle Obama as “beautiful”.
@Elizabeth (Gabriella’s Momma): I believe Hal was being facetious.
Elizabeth, I have already stated on here that I don’t care if God sends me to Hell for eternity. It’s not something I particularly care about. And that time, I wasn’t joking.
Actually, Rae, Hal was quoting me when he said that. See, Hal thinks it’s funny when babies die, and laughs in Christians’ faces when they beg for the lives of babies to be spared. That’s the kind of “man” Hal is.
Sounds like Jesse has stopped sharpening his knife and burried the hatchet with mr. o’bama.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm?page=0
[Jesse] Jackson believes that, although “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades” remain strong, they’ll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.
[Sounds a little anti-semitic to me Jesse. Echoes of that haimie town comment.]
“Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims,” Jackson says. “Thanks to his background and ecumenical approach, he knows how Muslims feel while remaining committed to his own faith.”
[Could you identifty that ‘faith’ for us Jesse?]
Will Obama’s election close the chapter of black grievances linked to memories of slavery? The reverend takes a deep breath and waits a long time before responding.
“No, that chapter won’t be closed,” he says. [Still milkin that cash cow, huh Jesse] “However, Obama’s victory will be a huge step in the direction we have wanted America to take for decades.”
Jackson rejects any suggestion that Obama was influenced by Marxist ideas in his youth. “I see no evidence of that,” he says. “Obama’s thirst for justice and equality is rooted in his black culture.” [See difference between Liberation Theology and Black Liberation Theology]
“We have a collapsing economy and a war that we have lost in Iraq. [If the o’bama says the surge ain’t workin, then war can’t be winnin.] In Afghanistan, we face a resurgent Taliban. New threats are looming in Pakistan.
Our liberties have been trampled under feet [Could you break that down for us Jesse?] . . .
Today, most Americans want change, and know that only Barack can deliver what they want. Young Americans are especially determined to make sure that Obama wins.”
[Well let us hope and pray the the old fools have more sense and more votes than the young fools.]
Well then John, maybe you could spare me your psychotic rantings, cause they’re kind of getting old.
@JohnL: Thanks but no thanks. I prefer to maintain my chastity until I find “the One”.
Elizabeth, I’ll shut up, right after we stop pretending that these “conversations” do anything good, and actually accomplish anything other than producing false conversions to Christianity and propagating outrageous lies.
Then why ARE YOU HERE John? If they do no good? What is your purpose here EXACTLY? To spew some of your self-righteous bullcrap and feel validated? Good luck with that.
Seems I’m not then only one who has issues with a lot of the BS John L. spews. The fact that he can get away with it is ridiculous IMO.
Elizabeth, I am here to ‘rage against the dying of the light’. And make no mistake, it’s being snuffed out by stupidity, lies, and evil.
I’m no “light”, Liz. My heart is as black as Dan’s soul.
John L.-
If your brother sins[b], go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
16″But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that (N)BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.
17″If he refuses to listen to them, (O)tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, (P)let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
18″Truly I say to you, (Q)whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.
Matthew 15:15-18
Matthew 15:15-18
should be:
Matthew 18:15-18
I was questioning the tactics and the truthtelling of the producers of the ad, not the validity of whether the pictures were of an actual fetus.
For instance, if you really wanted to acurately represent what was being aborted in the vast majority of procedures, why not show this picture:
Posted by: 12 weeks at October 14, 2008 10:19 PM
“12 weeks”, since you are seeking accurate representation, you would have to go all the way to nine weeks befor you reach a majority, and even that, at 58% is not a vast majority.
You’ll find honesty is the best policy here.
And 42% of 340 million is still 142,800,000 humans at advanced stage of developement and full recognizable features and brain waves that have been killed. How does that compare to the number killed in the US due to lack of health care? Beside the deaths of these young babies, abortion also crushed the souls of many of the women who committed/submitted themselves to having bthe babies torn from their wombs. Why do you try to minimize the tragedy of abortion? Why not seek to stop the mutilation of peoples hearts, minds and bodies?
John,
The lies and deception and theevil will die and be lost in darkness forever with or without our rage. Peace be with you and with your spirit. ts
John,
Today we are reaping the seeds of the woodstock generation as they are at an age, 50-60 years old, where they are in positions of power. The hedonistic revelotion of their youth has left them blind to the devil’s work amonst them but their time will pass. We can only hope and pray that they are not able to lead another generation down the path of hedonism, lust, abortion, etc..
Hey, Harper won a strong minority at the expense of the left liberals! I am ecstatic! AND my riding elected the prolife profamily candidate this time around. Double ecstasy!!! One more prolife profamily promarriage (anti-Taliban) member in our government!!!
John,
I’m just not up to deleting stuff this week…In the words of Austin Powers…Behaaaaave.
Congrats Becky! When my sister was pregnant with my oldest niece, she announced it to me first, at my birthday get together. My birthday card said “Congratulations AUNT ELIZABETH, your birthday gift will arrive in August”. I was speechless. And my niece still adores me (I saw her this past weekend).
Patricia! Hooray! Has it occurred to anyone that Europeans are electing more conservative leaders since President Bush has been in office and liberals think that the Bush is so out of touch with the rest of the world) and that the U.S. would actually be far left of Europe in terms of policies if Obama was elected? The rest of the world is opening its eyes while many of us in the U.S. are blind or too complacent or lazy.
Patricia,
Awesome! I did pray about your elections and I am happy to see some prolife officials in Canada!!
To spew some of your self-righteous bullcrap and feel validated? Good luck with that.
Posted by: Elizabeth (Gabriella’s Momma) at October 14, 2008 10:43 PM
Pot calling kettle black.
Got anymore sins to self rightously turn into a blessing from Jesus, E momma?
“I’m just not up to deleting stuff this week…In the words of Austin Powers…Behaaaaave.”
Well, I deleted several things.
John L,
I love you bro. I think you’re the only male Catholic my age that I know who is extremely committed to his faith. But John, you have to remember that it is only, ONLY 100% by the GRACE of God that we have accepted the TRUTH. If it were not for that grace, you and I would be making SoMG look like Padre Pio. We would be the biggest pro-abortion, Eucharist HATING people that there could ever be. And when one looks at it from that point of view, I think that one’s heart goes out to those who do now know or accept the truth. Think of how lucky we are to have God’s efficacious grace! And it is that grace that keeps us as we are; all we can do is hold out our empty hands as humble beggars who know that not a thing, not a single scrap is given to us which is not a great gift from our Lord.
I often think about how Catherine of Siena would agonize over the thought of a single soul being lost in hell. She would BEG and PLEAD with our Lord that not a single soul would ever be lost. I too sometimes wish to see people suffer and burn, I get so angry. But then I think about how I am no where near the level that St. Catherine was, and that I should strive to feel deep, deep sorrow at the thought of the loss of a single soul in imitation of her.
Pray without ceasing, John. Pray for Hal, Elizabeth, Rae, Amanda, and all those whom you constantly find yourself butting heads with. Pray for the extraordinary grace of seeing the dirtiness of your own soul as well. God love you.
Hope is dead. The armies of darkness become constantly stronger, enabled by Hal, Dan, and every other person with a soul that is so black and evil that they will certainly be sent directly to Satan’s mouth when they die.
Hal and Dan, you are two of the worst people I have ever dealt with in my entire life. The fact that people like you exist fills me with despair. I and everyone else who knows you is worse off for having met you. I have nothing else to say to you. Ever.
After reflection, I have realized that everything is pointless. There is little left to do but wait around for death.
I’ll continue to oppose evil, though it’s in vain. Doom is on the way, and nothing is going to stop it.
Also John, do you or have you read about the Interior Life? The unitive way, purgative way, infused contemplation, that sort of thing?
God love you, Bobby. Thanks for the reminder.
John,
LOVE conquered evil 2000 yrs ago and has not abandoned us.
kbhvac, regarding your post at October 14, 2008 9:49 PM, that was funny stuff. Obama is so dishonest and the Saddleback forum really brought that to light. In response to a question about wether or not he has ever voted for any legislation that limited the number of abortions Obama stammers and stumbles his way to saying that he is against certain late term abortions and his infamous “it’s above my pay-grade” statement. And when he is in front of Planned Parenthood he says that the first thing he will do as President is repeal all resrictions on abortion by passing FOCA. It was obvious to me how uncomfortable he was in talking to Rick Warren and how comfortable and enthusiastic he was when talking at the PP rally. It is obvious to me that he was lying at Saddleback in order to deceive Christians and get them to vote for him. It was obvious at the PP rally that what he is really enthusiastic about is the federal repeal of all existing laws that restrict abortions. There can be no doubt that Obama has been lying to us during his campaign to try and deceive us about who he really is because he knows that if we knew who he really is then he would be completely unelectable. Makes you wonder about all his denials of his past associations too.
John, to the ones who turn to Jesus Christ evil has no power. He is our shield.
Blessed be the Lord, my rock,
who trains my arms for battle.
He is my love, my fortress,
my shield, my place of refuge.
He brings peoples under my rule.
Psalm 144:1-2
Correction, I left out a line about war:
Blessed be the Lord, my rock,
who trains my arms for battle,
who prepares my hands for war.
He is my love, my fortress,
my shield, my place of refuge.
He brings peoples under my rule.
Psalm 144:1-2
John,
I’m just not up to deleting stuff this week…In the words of Austin Powers…Behaaaaave.
Posted by: mk at October 15, 2008 6:27 AM
I find it un-Christian and cruel that your even at this site acting as a editor, while having lost a father within the last few days.
Tell me Mk. Do you place flowers on the coffin?
Or dirt upon the lowered coffin in remembrence of biblical sentence;
By the sweat of your face shall you get bread to eat, Until you return to the ground, from which you were taken; For you are dirt, and to dirt you shall return.”
Or both?
If you could only do one action, flowers on the coffin, or dirt, which one is your decision?
One other bit of advice John. When doing spiritual battle with the powers of darkness; do not feel as though you must confront the most power of demons head on. Humility and understanding of our own weakness are prerequisite or your battled wil be doomed. Look how the Archangel Michael defeated the Devil in the book of Jude. The Devil was saying all kinds of vile things and instead of stiking out, instead Michael called upon God to rebuke him. Again, step back from the battle and recharge your spirit with the Holy Spirit and then when youn battle again it will not seem to be a doomed battle. ts
You see John,
It works like this.
Shut up, and know your being un-Chrisitan according to the theology of this board.
Your worth less then Dan and Hal.
Your going to get banned, I’ll be right behind you. Hey, were going to hell together!!!
And thank God, because only those that sin are in heaven.
I find it un-Christian and cruel that your even at this site acting as a editor, while having lost a father within the last few days.
Posted by: yllas at October 15, 2008 8:28 AM
yllas, perhaps you were not aware that Jesus told us to leave everything and do the work of his heavenly Father. Like me, I am certain that mk feels as though it is your desire to do the work of Jesus on earth that drives you to come to this blog and change the hearts of others.
And your comment about it being un-Christian for mk to join us here in the battle for life is ludicrous.
And your comment about it being un-Christian for mk to join us here in the battle for life is ludicrous.
Posted by: truthseeker at October 15, 2008 8:38 AM
I was writing as a secular humanist only concerned for the psychological aspects of MK.
Afterall, no matter how faithful you are to Jesus, one must admit that a secular site might have dis-allowed Mk from being a censor until they decided the grieving period was sufficienly met by their standards.
Many secular businesses allow a week off, or more if the death was sudden and unexpected.
Like me, I am certain that mk feels as though it is your desire to do the work of Jesus on earth that drives you to come to this blog and change the hearts of others.
What is this heart you refer to in the above statment TS? I define the heart as where mankind meets and talks with God.
So, since the pro aborts have no heart to change, as defined in the Christian traditional understanding of the “heart”, what’s you point TS? Allow the pro- murderers to post as usual, with the pro-murderers not having a understanding of this change of heart you wish for TS?
Your wasting your time on heartless pro murderers, and driving John into despair and desolation eventually, by allowing a bias against him and a bias for the pro abortionist. All for the sake of useless “heart talk.”
After reflection, I have realized that everything is pointless. There is little left to do but wait around for death.
I’ll continue to oppose evil, though it’s in vain. Doom is on the way, and nothing is going to stop it.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 15, 2008 8:11 AM
I’m with ya John. We’re Desperadoes Waiting For The Train and all you need to do is enjoy it.
Dan and Hal are hillarious. One is gettin some confidence gaming off Mk, while Hal is gettin his mind adjusted on a island, where he admits to child molesting and actually lying to his wife that he is a homosexual all these years.
Give um a insult John, you going to hell anyway, and I’ll be there with ya, enjoying God having to put up with thieves, murderers, and assorted forgiven abortionist such as Hal, the pro child molesting lying to his wife, male homosexual, and Dan, the fake conversant gettin some evil confidence off Mk.
It’ll be quite and peaceful in Hell. No sinners allowed.
What is this heart you refer to in the above statment TS?
Posted by: truthseeker at October 15, 2008 8:38 AM
A place where the spirit resides. And spirits can come and go. In fact, when confronted with the presence of the Holy Spirit demons can be driven out. So, to the believer, the spiritual battle is not doomed, and the goal is to be at the ready always, even if you can only be there to make a difference in the heart of just one person. “Ride the train”, just make sure Jesus is the conductor, and he will show you where to to get on and off, and he may have you get off at a stop to meet somebody to pick up a passenger.
yllas,
Don’t you think that it is possible to argue the issues without condemning or insulting the opposition?
yllas,
It is not that pro-choicers are worth more — but that more is expected of Christians ( charitable behavior). “To whom much is given, much will be asked…” But human nature being what it is, unfortunately you see both sides tossing verbal bombs.
Pray for the extraordinary grace of Pray for the extraordinary grace of seeing the dirtiness of your own soul as well. God love you.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 8:09 AM.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 8:09 AM
Way to go Bobby. John is in the throes of desolation and you offer him some guilt and dirtiness as a Catholic Christian. He has nothing to be guilty of. John is not dirty, this site is filthy and dirty from its bias towards murdering abortionist. Your really blind to suffering Bobby, the suffering of what might be interpreted as suicidal words of a Catholic named John L.
What a farce. Extraordinary grace? Think what you just did to John as he used his extraordinary grace given him by the Holy Spirit. And do you deny that John speaks with the Spirit of the Holy Spirit, Bobby? Or just you offering John the faith of of “seeing the dirtiness of your own soul as well. God love you.”
No he doesn’t. God doesn’t love John. he is not filled with the Holy Spirit, but is a dirty spirit.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 8:09 AM
You too yllas. Pray that God will allow you to see the dirtiness of your own soul. Not because your soul is dirtier than others or because Hal has a clean soul, but because it reminds us how desperately we need God and his grace, and how unworthy we all are. Think about what I said above about how we’re all beggars. Yes, it is an extraordinary grace i.e. it is not a normal part of the sanctification process. But God can grant souls these favors.
Indeed yllas, I am blind. I am blind to the sufferings of others, but worst of all, I am blind to the filthiness that is my own soul. I pray that our Lord will give me the grace to know how much sin offends him and how little I have to boast about.
I want to help John, you know that. Some spiritual meditations might be good right now. In fact, in times of despair, that is PRECISELY what someone needs, not to drift further away from God. Exercises from Ignatius of Loyola’s Spiritual Exercises, that sort of thing. Right, wouldn’t you agree?
It is not that pro-choicers are worth more –
Posted by: Eileen #2 at October 15, 2008 9:49 AM
Yes they are. Mk, and her side kicks need the pro murderers to have someone to change their heart at this site. That there heart is unable to change, from being unable to be a “Christian heart” never appears to you Eileen. Pro lifers are intrinsically worth less at this site. As some pro lifers wrote ” it would be boring”. Great faith and reason in that statement. Why, that logic demands demons in heaven for heaven to not be boring. Yes, lower the standards for admission since it would be boring without the diversity of Cain’s descendants inhabiting this forgiven eternity with Jesus. Now Jesus, being my lawyer and being that you know I’m asking and telling you that I’m sorry,atoned, repentance with no action, moved by your extraordinary grace, for murdering my brother, what can you do me for?
Now, Eileen what theologian thought that way also? Maritan?
Hey yllas,
Go play in traffic.
Yep, I’m sooooo self-righteous that I look at my sins as blessings. My daughter is a sin? Nope. Maybe her conception was sin, but she is not a sin. Always, always, always a blessing. Why don’t you tell all those potentially aborting mothers their babies are not blessings but sins, I’m sure you’ll save A TON THAT WAY.
Yllas-
There is plenty of proof on this site minds can be changed.
Remove the beam from your own eye before telling others about the one in their eyes.
Pray without ceasing, John. Pray for Hal, Elizabeth, Rae, Amanda, and all those whom you constantly find yourself butting heads with. Pray for the extraordinary grace of seeing the dirtiness of your own soul as well. God love you.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 8:09 AM
Bobby, that is very unselfish sentiment. But I think yllas and John sentiments can best be summed up by 1Cor 5:1-5
It is widely reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of a kind not found even among pagans–a man living with his father’s wife. And you are inflated with pride. Should you not rather have been sorrowful? The one who did this deed should be expelled from your midst. I, for my part, although absent in body but present in spirit, have already, as if present, pronounced judgment on the one who has committed this deed, in the name of (our) Lord Jesus: when you have gathered together and I am with you in spirit with the power of the Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan 4 for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
The foundation for yllas and John being ready to deliver Hal and Dan to Satan for the destruction of their flesh are not without love; and they are scriptually founded and sound in the teachings of St.Paul
yllas,
if you get banned or delted it will be cause of your insults. If I were moderator I would also delete sarcasm.
I want to help John, you know that. Some spiritual meditations might be good right now. In fact, in times of despair, that is PRECISELY what someone needs, not to drift further away from God. Exercises from Ignatius of Loyola’s Spiritual Exercises, that sort of thing. Right, wouldn’t you agree?
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 10:09 AM
John doesn’t need any words that make his “eternal soul dirty”, since Baptism removed that dirt. Or are you saying John is a dirty soul again from being at this site Bobby? Then who is winning in the Spiritual battle at this site? John, another soul fallen from extraordinary grace, and now made into a dirty soul by confronting Dan and Hal. John is a loser, Hal and Dan win again in the spiritual battle at this site. John is going to hell, and I’m going with him to offer him some words of encouragement that his soul is suffering persecutions for the justice of God’s sake.
This is a law of divine Providence, that while proving His servants with all manner of trials, He always accompanies the cross with the gift of His peace, to make the trial bearable and internally sweet. Any other course of action would be unwise, not to say unjust, on the part of God. Christ declared that His yoke is sweet and His burden light; He told His followers not to be troubled or afraid, but always to be in peace. He promised, already in this life, a taste of heavenly beatitude to the poor in spirit, the pure of heart and to those who suffer persecution for justice’s sake. If even in the natural order there is anticipated pleasure in the right use of the faculties of mind and sense, would this be contradicted in the order of grace, where the Holy Spirit of peace and joy dwells in the souls of the just, inviting them to use their supernatural powers according to the will of God?
In St. Ignatius’ vocabulary, sinners are “those who go from one mortal sin to another,” or simply “from bad to worse.” With such persons, God and His angels act in a different way, by adapting themselves to the needs at hand. Where good people need to be encouraged in the practice of virtue by spiritual delectation, sinners must be discouraged from their evil habits by drastic shocks and warnings. “Making use of the light of reason,” if faith has grown weak, the good spirit “will rouse the sting of conscience and fill them with remorse.” [9]
Personally Bobby, your increasing the burden of the cross for John by offering him guilt and dirt, instead of “a taste of heavenly beatitude to the poor in spirit, the pure of heart and to those who suffer persecution for justice’s sake”.
Well John, I see your suffering persecution for justice’s sake, the sake of being against abortion at this site. Here let me jump on your cross your carrying for justice’s sake, and offer you some up lifting Christianity of guilt, and the fact that you have a dirty soul.
Anonyllas,
Do you think your sarcasm and attacks on those who offer good will to John are source of enlightenment to John?
If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom will not be able to stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. And if Satan rises against himself and is divided, he is not able to stand and his end has come.
Mark 3:24-26
There is plenty of proof on this site minds can be changed.
Remove the beam from your own eye before telling others about the one in their eyes.
Posted by: Dan at October 15, 2008 10:26 AM
Your a confidence man dude. So was Nathan Sheets.
As for beams in eyes, maybe a complete understanding of hypocrite is beyound that simple phrase which you know hypocrisy by; Practice what you preach.
Your a hypocrite Dan, a person who trys to understand yourself by lowering your standards to match your practices. In that way you don’t think of yourself as a hypocritical confidence man.
Back in the 16th century, we divided England from Rome by uniting our three essential temptations in attacking Henry VIII: the world, the flesh, and the devil, greed, lust, and pride, dynastic ambition, womanizing, and resentment at being Poped around. The easiest element to manipulate was lust, of course. They like to call our pretty little project “the Church of England,” but we call it “the Church of Henry’s Hormones.”
You see, before the Sexual Revolution, we had a dilemma. The sins of the flesh were always easy to tempt them to, and wonderfully addictive, but they were clear, obvious, and unveiled. Sodomy, fornication, adultery, contraception, prostitution; they were not nice names. When they sinned, they knew they were sinners. On the other hand, the sins we masked well, the hard, cold sins of pride and envy and arrogance and self-righteousness and rage, became increasingly hard to tempt them to as their political fashions became more democratic and less elitist. The Sexual Revolution solved that dilemma for us. You see, they still think the revolution was about deeds, what they do with their bodies. But in fact it was mostly about philosophy. But those Americans never did think philosophy counted for anything, so they ignored that.
Their sexual practice was always rather low, but before the Revolution their principles were fairly high. Now their principles have conformed to their practice – a perfect example of the Machiavellian premise brought to its logical conclusion: since you can’t raise your practice to your principles, lower your principles to your practice, in this way alone can you avoid hypocrisy, which is the greatest evil. Of course hypocrisy is not the greatest evil, but it’s easy to make them think that, if they don’t think of themselves as hypocrites. And of course hypocrisy doesn’t mean failing to practice what you preach, hypocrisy means failing to believe what you preach; but it’s easy to confuse them there too, because they don’t care much about what you believe, only about what you practice.
And there you are Dan, a hypocrite con man.
Yes yllas, I argee with your Father Hardon quote. From the same page that you got Father Hardon’s words from, he says this about how one should act in desolation.
“How to Act in Desolation: …
Instead of changing our mode of action, we should rather “intensify our activity against the desolation,” by means of prayer, meditation, and additional penance. Equally profitable is reflection on the purpose that God has in permitting the devil to depress our ordinary fervor. He may want to remind us that “we have been tepid and slothful or negligent in our exercises of piety”; or may wish to try us “to see how much we are worth”; and certainly because “God wants to give us a true knowledge of ourselves,” in order to make us more humble and better disposed to receive His graces and heavenly blessings.”
While he does say that God may want us to see our worth, he also says that God may want us to know how slothful or negligent we have been.
“since Baptism removed that dirt”
How do you understand this in light of purgatory? Do we not sin again and dirty our souls? What is the purpose of confession?
Do you think your sarcasm and attacks on those who offer good will to John are source of enlightenment to John?
And I’m telling you John has nothing to be guilty, no reason to be attacked by pro lifers, while he is being persecuted for justice’s sake.
It ain’t sarcasm, but the fact that John is a apostle of truth. That offering his truth or Holy Spirit to this site he is being condemned by pro lifers, again.
Soon John will be crying out, Eli Eli Lama Sabacthani, and this board offers John a rebuke of his good will(does John have a good will only when your theology agree’s with John?) and his testament to, and for, justice’s sake.
What do you offer John but the choice of mea culpa mea culpa, mea maxima culpa——— again.
yllas-
As far as I am aware, I do try to practice what I preach.
Do I sometimes fail? Of course, I let you, John, or someone else get to me and say/do something I shouldn’t, it happens, I’m human. I ask Him for forgiveness and thats about all I can really do, for the final judgement is in fact His.
As I said yllas, perhaps you should take a look at yourself before you continue these outbursts accusing others of behavior without providing any evidence.
Do we not sin again and dirty our souls? What is the purpose of confession?
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 11:30 AM
Did John sin and dirty his soul, with his posting today at this board, Bobby? Should John go to confession for telling it like it is to two unrepentant sinners, who mock St. Ignatius daily?.
You just can’t take back that word(dirty) which is easily a condemnation of John’s soul,while he is in desolation, can you Bobby?
I suggest a repentance being offered by you Bobby, to John, in a failure of your spirit to offer John nothing more then a rebuke of his words, and his dirty soul, offered at this site.
Now, since no one at this site has offered up a defence of John, much less a apology to a man in desolation, then one must conclude that in the theology of this board, there rules a hard headed dogmatism to rebuke John for his words, which might be directed by the Holy Spirit in him, and from Him.
Hope is dead. The armies of darkness become constantly stronger, enabled by Hal, Dan, and every other person with a soul that is so black and evil that they will certainly be sent directly to Satan’s mouth when they die.
Hal and Dan, you are two of the worst people I have ever dealt with in my entire life. The fact that people like you exist fills me with despair. I and everyone else who knows you is worse off for having met you. I have nothing else to say to you. Ever.
Posted by: John Lewandowski at October 15, 2008 8:11 AM
I’m not sure why this made my day. But it did. I think you have to reach rock bottom before you can climb back up. Perhaps now you’re ready to open your mind and heart to the possibility that you have misjudged so many of your fellow Americans. Whether we are liberal or conservative, rich or poor, black or white, religious or not, there is more that we have in common as Americans (or Canadians ;)) than what divides us.
Fear not, Brother John, you and our country can survive the next 8 years, just has we have survived (barely) the last 8. W
Yllas,
You have not understood a SINGLE thing I have said.
You win yllas. You and Zeke win.
The unborn won’t get a chance to survive the next 8 years because they won’t get a chance to have a voice. They’ll be snuffed out before they get a chance to take their first breath outside the womb.
Bobby: We should not give up. The lives of millions of children are at stake.
The only ones that were still with Jesus when he was dying on the cross were his mother and a few other women and ONE disciple.
Those of us who fight against abortion on demand are the voice for the voiceless. We are the women at the foot of the cross, knowing that the unborn are the innocent condemned to die.
The whole conversation here has made me really sad.
Seems I’m not then only one who has issues with a lot of the BS John L. spews. The fact that he can get away with it is ridiculous IMO.
Posted by: Dan at October 14, 2008 10;45pm
As far as I am aware, I do try to practice what I preach.
Do I sometimes fail? Of course, I let you, John, or someone else get to me and say/do something I shouldn’t, it happens, I’m human. I ask Him for forgiveness and thats about all I can really do, for the final judgement is in fact His.
As I said yllas, perhaps you should take a look at yourself before you continue these outbursts accusing others of behavior without providing any evidence.
Posted by: Dan at October 15, 2008 12:02 PM
That’s mighty Christian of ya Dan with that post about John at 10:45pm Dan.
Another failure of you Dan, or another excuse to fail your God? Either way, it means nothing to ask for forgiveness from a God that always forgives.
Actually your another old time version of Christianity who actually blames his failures on someone or something that makes you not practice what you preach.
Your such a con man, can’t even turn the other cheek to John,, but offers up a insult to John to affirm your failings and hypocrisy are operating in accordance with your version of Jesus.
Why didn’t you do da Christian thang Dan? Turn the other cheek and write that you enjoy being humbled by John, and thank John for humbling you. Then offering up to Jesus your “failing to turn the other cheek” for the millionth time without any physical,mental, or spiritual penance that actually means a thing to Jesus.
Are you going to go to confession and tell the priest you failed again to match your practices to the preaching of Jesus’ commandment to turn the other cheek?
I reckon not, since no sin was committed in your so called version of Christianity.
Now, get that beam out of your eye, you con man from perdition. Turn that cheek to me, Dan, and thank me for humbling you once again.
What did you say? Ya, thank me, for giving you a chance to not fail again in the faith of Jesus, that demands you turn your cheek to me when I slap you down as nothing more then a con man Christian.
I’m waiting.
Yllas,
You have not understood a SINGLE thing I have said.
You win yllas. You and Zeke win.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 12:14 PM
Offer the other cheek to John, Bobby.
You fail to understand the true meaning of turning the other cheek wihout degrading the soul of John.
When someone ask for you to mea culpa there is no mea culpa coming. Afterall, your pronouncing upon a fellow Catholic a fact that his soul is dirty.
In fact Bobby, I’m offering you some humbling by me in the spirit of St.Ignatius. You seem to have adapted to the evil spirits that post here, by offering your humility soo often that it means nothing to the evil spirits that are more worthy then John’s words of justice’s worth. Can’t accept some humility yourself, but give it as a answer to John in his desolation from being persecuted for “justice sake”.
Come on Bobby, mea culpa to John, offer him something more then making him guilty of a lack of humility, and a dirty soul, by his failing to meet your standards of humility.
yllas,
I’m not sure what the point was that you are trying to make at 10:12 AM. Personally, I don’t think that it would be boring if everyone that posted at this site were pro-life but the fact is that there are pro-choice people who do post here. If they can offer their opinion without being insulting then fine — let’s debate. You are not going to change any hearts by hurling insults.
It is unfortunate that you have attacked Bobby and mk — they have always tried to debate with charity.
Yllas,
I’m a bit more calm now and I’m trying to seriously understand what you’re saying in your 1:57 post. I’m just not sure what you’re asking though. Let’s talk through this a second. As Catholics, we both agree that baptism makes our souls clean and ready for enterence into heaven immediately. So far so good. However, once we reach the age of reason, we can sin lose our state of grace, right? We can come back into a state of grace through confession. This is what I was trying to say earlier and I think you’d agree with this. But there is also temporal punishment due to sin. There remains the fact we have some attachment to sin, and hence the need to be cleansed from that sin during the final purification in purgatory, right? Very, very few people are able to die in this life without some small attachment to sin, and thus the need for purgatory.
My point is that I would venture a guess that only about .00000001% of all people who are living now would go straight to heaven without passing through purgatory if they were to die right now. Thus, this means that they do not have a 100% pure soul; it is dirty. Therefore, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that almost anyone I meet has dirt on their soul. That’s all. I was not trying to beraid John in the least. All I was trying to do was give him some advice which he is free to either accept or reject. It helps me to be more charitable and patient with others when I really concentrate on my own sins and my own faults. I just wanted to share that with John in hopes that it might help him like it helps me. Like I mentioned at the beginning of what I wrote to him, I think he and I have a lot in common, at least what I know about him.
So in that sense, yllas, i don’t see what I’ve done wrong. I don’t know what I would be apologizing for, and so if I were to apologize at this point, it would be the sin of false humility. That’s not to say I may not apologize later; I just need to know how and if I have offended.
But to you yllas, I do apologize for being short with you. It’s easy to get frustrated on here, especially when discussing something so passionate. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. God love you.
I’m not sure why this made my day. But it did. I think you have to reach rock bottom before you can climb back up. Perhaps now you’re ready to open your mind and heart to the
Posted by: Hal at October 15, 2008 12:13 PM
No there is a evil spirit spewing forth a gloat and bleet upon a person in desolation.
Calling all Christians, can you rebuke this evil spirit who had his “day made”, by a person failing to turn their cheek in humility once again, and to a evil spirit that foresakes and persecutes justice’s sake, that John defends.
Why Hal, after murdering two of God’s creation, and being a homophobe to boot, one would think you has hit rock bottom yourself.
But, in your world, your ascending to being a person that has his “day made” by having John rebuked at this site of the ever-forgiving evangelist. Well as long as they are useful prospects to some type of conversion to not murder again.
Hey, that ain’t saying much dude, besides your inablity to turn the other cheek to John, and gloat and bleet about John essentially being morally inferior to you this day, is why your day is made. What a low life you are Hal.
Hey Yllas, that’s enough. You’re banned for a week.
Wow. This thread is just…wow.
I rarely comment, but I find it incredible how this thread has simply become an attack zone on anyone who disagrees with anyone else. Especially when it isn’t even a disagreement on the issue but on how the issue is tackled.
Isn’t it prolifers who say that it is so easy to take down prochoicers arguments because they don’t all agree in the same thing?
How can you expect to change hearts and minds on an issue if you are all fighting each other?
I come on this site a LOT, and I USUALLY enjoy the debate from the sidelines, even if I don’t agree with what is being said. But, I find it incredible how often people point out how aweful people can be, and then do THE EXACT SAME THING in the very next line.
And this thread seems to show how bad it can get, when people like Bobby and MK are being attacked for doing NOTHING but calling poeple on how rude they have been.
How can you expect to acheive anything by arguing with those that are on the same side as you?
“Why Hal, after murdering two of God’s creation, and being a homophobe to boot, one would think you has hit rock bottom yourself.”
just for the record, I AM NOT a homophobe.
In response to Yllas’ last post directed towards me-
I recognize I have shortcomings, I readily admit that. I have a hard tie simply ignoring John when I feel I am being unfairly attacked, nor is it easy for me to turn the other cheek when I am being called a black soul.
I do my best to ignore John, but that isn’t to say I am always able to make myself turn the other cheek. When I do however it gets worse and worse and often times I do inevitably fall into the same trap of eventually engaging John and causing myself far more frustration than it is worth, and so I do better for awhile until I repeat the cycle.
The good news is the time between each cycle seems to be getting longer and longer, hopefully it will eventually no longer be a cycle but a line in that I am able to keep myself from engaging John when it is simply a matter of insults being tossed and not a true discussion.
I would just like to offer this. I am almost sure I went at John L in probably the wrong way, but I feel that there is just no talking to him. That’s why I don’t…and then I read his comments and let it build and build because I have found him INCAPABLE of talking to anyone without an insulting/sarcastic comment. And then I let it all go, and don’t offer communication towards him that is prodcutive. I, in essence, do the same thing to John L. that he does to everyone else. So for that, I apologize, as it is not how I like to do things around here.
just for the record, I AM NOT a homophobe.
Oh, Hal, this made me laugh, even though you probably didn’t intend for it to be funny. I’m not sure why; maybe just because it’s pre-coffee. “Hal is a murderer! An evil spirit who lies for a living and gets paid to contaminate the pure and innocent minds of pro-lifers! A low life, one of the worst people I’ve ever spoken to, and a homophobe!” “Hey, I’m not a homophobe.” Kind of like…where else do you even begin, or why even try.
Honestly, your comments frequently make me laugh; I just never say anything. I get the feeling you’ve probably got great comic timing IRL.
In my opinion you don’t post often enough. If they ever do eventually run you off, be sure to let me know where you go.
Oh, but you might want to take that with a grain of salt, considering it comes from the stupid, family-hating whore who sold her dignity for an orgasm and a kiss on the cheek. Or something like that — it’s hard to keep these things straight. ;)
Alexandra- you have no idea how much you made my day with that response. ROFLOL…
Thank you Alexandra, that was very nice to read. (btw, I did intend it the way you read it)
Being attacked by John L and yllas makes me think I’m on the right track. I don’t take it too seriously.
John L thinks McCain won the debate last night.
Hope is dead. The armies of darkness become constantly stronger
John, you’re such a cheerful soul. ; )
Being attacked by John L and yllas makes me think I’m on the right track.
Posted by: Hal at October 16, 2008 12:37 PM
LOL, what an understatement that is!
As I said yllas, perhaps you should take a look at yourself before you continue these outbursts accusing others of behavior without providing any evidence.
Posted by: Dan at October 15, 2008 12:02 PM
yllas is the poster-child for internet trolls.
Dan, it’s good that you and Hal, etc., see right through it.
You win yllas. You and Zeke win.
Posted by: Bobby Bambino at October 15, 2008 12:14 PM
Don’t you think the board nuts have already lost, even before they post?
“Hal is worthless.”
So both pro-life John’s on here see people as worthless. Isn’t it interesting that no pro-choicer’s have ever said that?
“Elizabeth, I have already stated on here that I don’t care if God sends me to Hell for eternity.”
You’ll care when you get there John.
Hey Jesus it’s me, Jess. You know I don’t ask for much but…
Hey Jesus it’s me, Jess. You know I don’t ask for much but…
…can you make a stalk of celery taste like a ribeye steak?
Ew steak. I wouldn’t eat steak even if it grew off trees : P
Oh, Hal, this made me laugh, even though you probably didn’t intend for it to be funny. I’m not sure why; maybe just because it’s pre-coffee. “Hal is a murderer! An evil spirit who lies for a living and gets paid to contaminate the pure and innocent minds of pro-lifers! A low life, one of the worst people I’ve ever spoken to, and a homophobe!” “Hey, I’m not a homophobe.” Kind of like…where else do you even begin, or why even try
Posted by: Alexandra at October 16, 2008 5:38 AM
Alexandra, How many abortions have you been party to? Perhaps that is exactly why you and Hal can bond by making light of your “choice” to kill your offspring by exaggeration, sarcasm,
and redirecting the conversation towards a lack of homophobia.
HAl, do you really get joy making light of the fact that you condoned the killing of two of your offspring? Alexandra will offer you support with sarcastic comments about you being evil for having been party to the abortion of your children.
Barry has a lawsuit filed in Hawaaii. He is flying there as we speak. He says his grannie is ill and covering the purpose of his trip. contrariancommentary.com
Andy Martin wrote a book on this.
The suit was filed Friday or saturday and a heariing or two are this weak.