Washington Times anti-Obama editorial
Read editorial in its entirety on page 2.
Washington Times
Sunday, November 2, 2008
EDITORIAL: Obama is a ‘liar’ on abortion
If you want to know Barack Obama’s real views on abortion, you should meet registered nurse Jill Stanek.
Mrs. Stanek worked at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois from 1993 to 2001. When she worked in the hospital’s Labor and Delivery Department she saw that babies who survived abortion attempts were left to die alone in supply rooms. They could linger for as long as eight hours, without medical care, without even the dignity of a warm blanket or a soft touch. Their tiny bodies were then dumped in the trash. Mr. Obama’s spiritual mentor served on the board of the hospital. Mrs. Stanek went on a public crusade to protect these children.
At a 2001 Illinois legislature hearing, Mr. Obama questioned Mrs. Stanek. She insisted that children needed medical care if they were born alive. Mr. Obama said: “Ms. Stanek, your initial testimony last year showed your dismay at the lack of regard for human life. I agreed with you last year and we suggested that there be a Comfort Room or something of that nature be done. The hospital acknowledged that and changes were made and you are still unimpressed. It sounds to me like you are really not interested in how these fetus [es] are treated, but rather not providing absolutely any medical care or life to them.”
Mrs. Stanek replied: “What the hospital did was try to make things look better. What it really is, is that the baby is still dead.”
In committee testimony, Mr. Obama said it was sufficient to give “comfort care” to a baby that is born despite all the efforts to kill it. “Comfort care” means giving the infant a warm blanket and permitting the baby to be held by someone as it dies. This is the most Mr. Obama could find in his heart to provide – a warm blanket for a child grasping for life. Mrs. Stanek told The Washington Times that Mr. Obama showed callousness when he questioned her in committee testimony: His inability to grasp that babies born alive need medical care was disturbing.
Despite all the details Mrs. Stanek provided in her testimony, Mr. Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act in the Illinois legislature in 2002 – a bill that would give legal protection and medical assistance to a baby born from a botched abortion. Mr. Obama stated that he feared the bill could undermine Roe v. Wade. When a similar bill was put to Congress, other lawmakers had better sense and bigger hearts: The Born Alive Infants Protection Act passed the Senate with a vote of 98-0. It was signed into law by President Bush on Aug. 5, 2002. Infants born alive are now recognized as legal persons with full rights.
Mr. Obama even voted against banning partial-birth abortion – a radical procedure – in the Senate, in October, 2007. Since 2005, he has a 100 percent rating on pro-choice votes by NARAL, a leading, national pro-choice organization.
There is no doubt that Mr. Obama wants not only to uphold existing abortion laws, but a more radical view. At an address before Planned Parenthood on July 17, 2007, Mr. Obama said: “The first thing I will do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.” He received a standing ovation. FOCA was introduced in Congress in November 1989 by Rep. Don Edwards, California Democrat. The legislation has since been a focal point for staunch pro-choicers. The bill would codify the 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, into law in all the states. This would overturn state laws that have been passed to limit or delay abortions. Contrary to Mr. Obama’s pledges to reduce the number of abortions, he really wants to make them easier to get – while overriding state and federal laws.
Mr. Obama wants to uphold an abortion policy that has a disproportionate impact on blacks. The Alan Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit organization focused on sexual and reproductive health research, finds that 13 percent of the U.S. population is black, but 37 percent of all abortions are performed on black women and teens: Blacks are 4.8 times as likely as whites to have an abortion. A vote for Mr. Obama is, in effect, a vote that permits the disproportionate elimination of blacks in America.
Mr. McCain believes unequivocally that life begins at conception. Mr. McCain even supports requiring parental notification for underage girls who want to abort the fetus. His 0 percent rating by NARAL is perhaps one of his greatest achievements as a senator. On one of the fundamental moral questions of our time, the choice is clear: One man favors life, the other prefers a society that permits the death of the most innocent and vulnerable of us.
Mrs. Stanek told The Times that Mr. Obama’s talk of compassion for the weak and underprivileged rings hollow to her: “Frankly, I think he is a liar.”
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
The more we look into Obama, he is neither compassionate nor straightforward. It looks like he has a chance of winning. It is also clear many do not know his problematic postions and will have great regreat later if they vote for him. I see him trying to spread both wealth and misery.
Contrary to Mr. Obama’s pledges to reduce the number of abortions, he really wants to make them easier to get – while overriding state and federal laws.”
Those two things are not “contrary.” Maybe Rev. Moon needs to rethink this editorial.
Hal:
Maybe you need to re-think your whole life.
Making abortions easier to get will not reduce the number of abortions. In fact, I wouldn’t doubt that a Liberal agenda would even lie about the statistics.
In fact, the more socially acceptable abortion gets, the more embedded it becomes in our society as an accepetable practice. I see now how it has invaded even the church. This is a diabolical scheme that you are partnered with Hal and the Almighty will have the last say.
Someday Hal, of own accord or by compulsion, you real realize the absoilute evil of your position. By that time it will be too late and you will spend an eternity in regret called hell.
“States may not be able to restrict abortion, and taxpayers could be forced to fund abortions.
In several states, it could be illegal to own a gun.”
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLtopstories/A000008495.cfm
Oh cry me a river. You can’t own a gun? How sad. Looks like you’ll need an abortionist to kill your kid, they won’t have the oppertunity to blow their own brains out:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_re_us/boy_shoots_himself
HisMan: “Making abortions easier to get will not reduce the number of abortions.”
That probably is true. However, you can make abortion easier and do other things to reduce the number.
In committee testimony, Mr. Obama said it was sufficient to give “comfort care” to a baby that is born despite all the efforts to kill it. “Comfort care” means giving the infant a warm blanket and permitting the baby to be held by someone as it dies. This is the most Mr. Obama could find in his heart to provide – a warm blanket for a child grasping for life. Mrs. Stanek told The Washington Times that Mr. Obama showed callousness when he questioned her in committee testimony: His inability to grasp that babies born alive need medical care was disturbing.
Because what really matters here to Obama is that the baby is DEAD. The mother wanted it dead, the doctor wanted it dead. So dead it’s gotta be.
Why is it that the only person who can seem to relate to Obama’s position here is Hal? Hmmmmm….
In Germany, when Hitler came to power, it was a time of terrible financial depression. Money was worth nothing. In Germany people lost homes and jobs,
just like in the American Depression in the 1930s, which we have read about in Thoene’s Shiloh books.
In those days, in my homeland, Adolph Hitler was elected to power by promising ‘Change.’
He blamed the ‘Zionists’ around the world for all our problems. He told everyone it was greedy Zionist Bankers who had caused every problem we had. He promised when he was leader, the greedy Zionist bankers would be punished. The Zionists, he promised, would be wiped off the face of the earth.
So Hitler was elected to power by only 1/3 the popular vote. A coalition of other political parties in parliament made him supreme leader. Then, when he was leader, he disgraced and expelled everyone in parliament who did not go along with him.
Yes. Change came to my homeland as the new leader promised it would.
The teachers in German schools began to teach the children to sing songs in praise of Hitler. This was the beginning of the Hitler Youth movement. It began with praise of the Fuhrer’s programs on the lips of innocent children. Hymns in praise of Hitler and his programs were being sung in the schoolrooms and in the playyard. Little girls and boys joined hands and sang these songs as they walked home from school.
My brother came home and told Papa what was happening at school. The political hymns of children proclaimed Change was coming to our homeland and the Fuhrer was a leader we could trust.
I will never forget my father’s face. Grief and fear. He knew that the best propaganda of the Nazis was song on the lips of little children.
That evening before he said grace at the dinner table, he placed his hands upon the heads of my brothers and me and prayed the Living Word upon us from Jeremiah 1:4-5.
‘Now the Word of the Lord came to me, saying,
‘Before I formed you in the
womb I knew you,
and before you were born I
consecrated you;
I appointed you a prophet to
The nations.’
Soon the children’s songs praising the Fuhrer were heard everywhere on the streets and over the radio. ”With our Fuhrer to lead us, we can do it! We can change the world!”
Soon after that Papa, a pastor, was turned away from visiting elderly parishioners in hospitals. The people he had come to bring comfort of God’s Word, were ”no longer there.”
Where had they vanished to, while under nationalized health care? It became an open secret. The elderly and sick began to disappear from hospitals feet first as ‘mercy killing’ became the policy. Children with disabilities and those who had Down syndrome were euthanized.
People whispered, ”Maybe it is better for them now. Put them out of misery. They are no longer suffering. And, of course, their death is better for the treasury of our nation. Our taxes no longer must be spent to care for such a burden.”
And so murder was called mercy.
The government took over private business. Industry and health care were ”nationalized.” (NA-ZI means National Socialist Party) The businesses of all Jews were seized. (Perhaps you remember our story in Berlin on Krystalnacht in the book Munich Signature.)
The world and God’s word were turned upside down. Hitler promised the people economic Change?
Not change. It was, rather, Lucifer’s very ancient Delusion leading to Destruction.
What began with the propaganda of children singing a catchy tune ended in the deaths of millions of children. The reality of what came upon us is so horrible that you in this present generation cannot imagine it.
Our suffering is too great to ever tell in a book or show in a black and white newsreel.
When I spoke to Bodie about some of these things, she wept and said she could not bear to write them. Perhaps one day she will, but I asked her, ”who could bear to read our suffering?”
Yet with my last breaths I warn every Christian and Jew now, in the name of the Lord, Unless your course of the church in America is spiritually changed now, returning to the Lord, there are new horrors yet to come.
I trembled last night when I heard the voices of American children raised in song, praising the name of Obama, the charismatic fellow who claims he is the American Messiah.
Yet I have heard what this man Obama says about abortion and the ‘mercy killing’ of tiny babies who are not wanted.
There are so few of us left to warn you.
I have heard that there are 69 million Catholics in America and 70 million Evangelical Christians. Where are your voices? Where is your outrage? Where is passion and your vote? Do you vote based on an abortionist’s empty promises and economics? Or do you vote according to the Bible?
Thus says the Lord about every living child still in the womb.
”Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.”
I have experienced the signs of the politics of Death in my youth. I see them again now.
Christians! Unless you stand up now, you will lose your freedom of religion.
In America, priests and preachers have already lost their freedom to speak openly from their pulpits of moral danger in political candidates. They cannot legally instruct you of which candidate holds fast to the precepts of scripture! American law forbids this freedom of speech to conservative pastors or they will lose their ‘tax exempt’ status.
And yet I have heard the words of Obama’s pastor Damning America! I have heard the words of Obama damning and mocking all of you in small towns because you ”Cling to your religion.”
But I am a woman whose name is unknown. My life is recorded as a work of fiction. I have no fear of reprisal when I speak truth to you from the pages of a book. (Though the Zion Covenant books are mocked and condemned by the Left in America .)
I am an old woman and will soon go to be with my Lord. I have no fear for myself, but for all of you and for your children, I tremble.
I tremble at the hymns to a political leader which your children will sing at school. (Though even now a hymn or a prayer to God and our Lord Jesus is against the law in public school!)
Your vote must put a stop to what will come upon America, if Barrack Obama is elected.
I pray you will personally heed this warning for the sake of your children and your grandchildren. Do not be deceived.
The Lord in Jeremiah 1:7-8 commands every believer to speak up!
“Do not say, ‘I am only a youth, for to all whom I send you, you shall go, and whatever I command you, you shall speak. Do not be afraid of them for I am with you’, declares the Lord!”
I am in Prayer for you, and for the Church!
Spoken to you in the authority of Jesus the Christ,
the Name Above All Names,
Lori Kalner
The more we look into Obama, he is neither compassionate nor straightforward. It looks like he has a chance of winning. It is also clear many do not know his problematic postions and will have great regreat later if they vote for him. I see him trying to spread both wealth and misery.
However, you can make abortion easier and do other things to reduce the number.
Posted by: hal at November 3, 2008 9:37 AM
this is a contradictory statment.
HisMan: even Fr Richard Neuhaus of FirstThings believes that this election is ultimately about the freedom of religion.
Because if Obama is elected there won’t be any in America.
God have mercy on this nation. I believe the time will soon come when we will say, what have we done by electing this man. If we do not know our history we are doomed to repeat it.
Maria: I believe alot about Obama will come out during his presidency.
Maybe there will be the chance to impeach him. Especially if he falls short of the expectations of the radical left.
Marxists lie. Marxists kill. Marxists steal.
Some Christians (not I) believe if they vote they will just be endorsing the ‘lesser-of-two-evils”…
There is no such thing as a perfect candidate – just as there is no such thing as a perfect mere mortal. EVERY election, the choice will be between less-than-perfect candidates, with many citizens feeling that their vote is going for the ‘lesser-of-two-evils’.
Voting for a candidate is not a total endorsement of everything that candidate advocates. We still (for the time being) have freedom of speech and other ways to communicate to a political leader the specifics of what we do or don’t endorse. There will be a presidential election whether or not you vote – and one of the candidates will become president. One of the presidential candidates will protect free speech and freedom of the press; one of the candidates’ campaigns has shown that they threaten and harrass media outlets and individual citizens who question or criticize them.
Again, neither candidate is perfect.
But without freedom of speech and freedom of the press, citizens will not be allowed to advocate for their true beliefs after the election. For those who believe the choice is between two ‘evils’, the candidate who doesn’t threaten freedom of speech and freedom of the press is the logical best choice.
Also one of the candidates has demonstrated a willingness to admit when he’s been wrong in the past (instead of lying about his recently dropped affiliations). As Christians, we are not supposed to pretend we are perfect and above scrutiny; we are supposed to admit our sins and to humbly ask for forgiveness.
Also, as Christians we are not supposed to seek to deify ourselves. One candidate is being called “The One” and has fawning fans wanting to crown him king of the whole world (with the slogan ‘FTW’: For The World). This is a U.S. presidential election – NOT an election for somebody to take over the world!
When calculating which is the ‘lesser-of-two-evils’ the aspirations and reach of each candidate should be taken into consideration. A limited ‘evil’ will always do far less damage than a widespread popular evil.
Similarly, the checks and balance system designed into our government is meant to protect against an excessive use of power by a particular party or politician. Allowing one party to control the executive, judicial, and legislative branch will make it practically impossible to limit whatever evil they want to inflict. Again, a limited ‘evil’ will be able to inflict far less damage than an evil that has control of all three branches of government.
For those who feel that the choice is between two evils, your vote still matters and will determine how much power and control evil will have handed over to it.
hal @ 9:37 AM
Hal – how about this: “However, you can make slavery easier and do other things to reduce the number of slaves.”
You simply cannot make such a statement in any other moral context and expect anyone to agree that it’s morally correct.
I think one of the reasons that God will most likely allow Obama to be elected is to separate the wheat from the chaff. This CLEARLY needs to be done, as we are seeing with many people’s true colors coming out in this election. This will be a period of great suffering and testing over the next 4 or 8 years. Our faith will be put to test, through fire, to borrow Chris’s blog borrowed from 1 Cor 3. The foundations of our faith will come out in the next years. Will it be a foundation of gold, silver, precious stones? Or will it be on wood, hay, or straw? Stay strong and persevere fellow Christians. God love you all.
Oh cry me a river. You can’t own a gun? How sad. Looks like you’ll need an abortionist to kill your kid, they won’t have the oppertunity to blow their own brains out:
Posted by: Jess at November 3, 2008 9:33 AM
Jess, do you not see that guns are not the problem? Back in 1950 it was much easier to buy a gun but we didn’t have people shooting each other left and right.
Now it’s more difficult to get a gun, obtained illegally or legally, but shootings are out of control. The problem is society, that’s what’s broken and needs to be fixed. Did you ever wonder that the growth in violence began just about the time legalized abortion began? Sure there were instances before then but widespread shootings (post office, schools, not just here but world wide) became more common.
Hal,
I don’t know if you have mentioned it before, but can you tell us what state you live in? I don’t know people who think like you.
Did anyone see Mike Huckabee’s show on FOX last night? He played a tape of an interview he did with Bill Maher. It was great!
Oh cry me a river. You can’t own a gun? How sad. Looks like you’ll need an abortionist to kill your kid, they won’t have the oppertunity to blow their own brains out:
Posted by: Jess at November 3, 2008 9:33 AM
Well Jess, since you brought up suicide and guns, that opens up a question to you again.
You claim to be a victim of a shooter.
So am I.
You claim to have had a abortion, also.
Being on equal footing as a “victim” of a person using a firearm, I’m going to ask you a question again, that trys to explain your lack of respect for life.
Which came first?
The shooting or abortion?
Second question, have you known anyone who has actually “blow their own brains out”:
by a firearm, while acting out their last will and attitude towards the people that loved them?
Third; are you on anti-sorrow medication from being unable to respect life, as those that shoot other people are, or kill themselves in a final act, which says to those left, that their love isn’t worth being alife one more day with them.
yllas, I’m pretty sure that was Erin, not Jess, who went through those things.
Well then Kel,
maybe Erin can answer the question put to her about which came first, the abortion or shooting.
But, the question to Jess concerning suicide by a firearm still stands.
Plus, the question about her being on anti-sorrow meds still stands.
Second question, have you known anyone who has actually “blow their own brains out”:
by a firearm, while acting out their last will and attitude towards the people that loved them?
Third; are you on anti-sorrow medication from being unable to respect life, as those that shoot other people are, or kill themselves in a final act, which says to those left, that their love isn’t worth being alife one more day with them.
if he gets in the house GOD HELP US.
We can work together for impeachment, make sure it is fact not thought.
and make it fast before he ruins us. I do not want to see my American dreams of continuing to own my own business.
simple economics when you raise taxes: the cost of services/goods go up and payrolls go down.
mrs clinton said he was bad so did his own running mate now they support him. only neggitive things i hear about The repub party is from democrats.
put on your USA hats and vote for our country not party’s or self serving people
Come on, everyone. You may not like an Obama presidency, but there is no reason to believe that he would be elected with 1/3 of the popular vote and proceed to become an evil dictator or that he would infringe on the rights of churches to exist. Deep breaths, deep breaths.
Hal,
I don’t know if you have mentioned it before, but can you tell us what state you live in? I don’t know people who think like you.
Posted by: Janet at November 3, 2008 11:20 AM
Hi Janet, I’m in Washington State, nice and blue here. I don’t know anyone who thinks like you. I had a nice talk with a Catholic woman last week who wanted to vote for Obama, but her priest made her feel guilty about it. I showed her all the great stuff the Catholics for Obama have been writing, and she voted her conscience.
Kyle, Impeachment? Really? What do you expect Obama to do? Taxes up a few percentages points on me and Joe the Plumber. Oh, right, just me. Joe never made $250,000 in his life.
Hal,
to be fair, “God help us” is what I said after the results came in from the 2004 election. Maybe it just takes 4 years for God to do so–can’t wait to find out.
To all those supporting the O man.
The O man is for corporate welfare plain and simple.
$700bl for wall street and not a penny to restore main streets 401k’s, mutual funds, and all those pension funds of those universities, to teacher unions, to boot.
What a hypocrite.
Hey Hal and Pip,
Explain to the board what this means to you.
Bloomburg news.
For much of this decade, the U.S. has been able to count on foreign investors and central banks to funnel a growing pile of reserves into Treasuries. Investors outside the U.S. hold $2.74 trillion of Treasuries, or 52 percent of the $5.22 trillion in marketable debt outstanding, according to the government. That’s up from $1.09 trillion, or 33 percent, in 2000.
U.S. long-term interest rates would be about 1 percentage point higher without foreign government and central bank buyers, according to Professors Francis and Veronica Warnock at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, who have performed research on the subject for the Fed.
Foreign official purchases of Treasuries fell by more than half in August, to a net $4.8 billion, from $10.1 billion in July, and an average of $7.5 billion in the preceding 12 months, according to the Treasury Department. Japan, the top holder, sold a net $7.5 billion.
U.S. `Needs Help’
“The U.S. Treasury Secretary is trying to convince other countries, including China and Japan, to buy its government bonds,” said Shen Jianguang, a Hong Kong-based economist at China International Capital Corp., the nation’s biggest stock underwriter. “This is the first time a developed country needs help from developing countries to ride out its crisis.”
Treasury spokeswoman Jennifer Zuccarelli declined to comment.
The International Monetary Fund’s World Economic Outlook forecast last month that global growth will weaken to 3 percent in 2009, from 3.9 percent this year and 5 percent in 2007. That would mean a world recession under the fund’s definition.
Since those nations are not buying up the debt you are creating by asking for more hand outs from the almighty government, what does that mean to your future?
I shudder just as much as the rest of you at the thought of Barack Obama taking power, BUT I do NOT believe it will happen!
The reality is, in all likelihood, that Obama was not born in Hawaii but WAS BORN IN KENYA! His grnadmother over there says she saw him being born in Kenya. He refuses to release his Hawaiian birth certificate. Why??? Maybe, because he does not have one.
Additionally, he moved to Indonesia when his mother remarried and took Indonesian citizenship. Most likely he is either a naturalized citizen or an illegal alien! Either way, he is NOT constitutionally qualified to be President.
There is a lawsuit (Berg vs Obama) on appeal at the Supreme Court now. There are suits in eleven states at last count. This will soon probably grow to fifty. There will be criminal complaints filed at the Department of Justice, Criminal Division or with the US Attorney or the Attorney General. There will be action taken by citizens through the Federal Election Commission. Bottom line, I believe this dangerous man will NEVER take power! I may be wrong but I hope not.
At some point he is going to be required to produce nonfraudulent, nonforged documentation proving he is eligible. I do not believe he can. At some point, the Supreme Court will have to rule him ineligible. At that point, if before the electors meet, when they do they will probably vote for Hillary Clinton, but possibly also Joe Biden or John McCain.
Whatever, I think Obama wins the election and we probably have a Democratic abortionist as President.
Therefore, it is critically important for ALL pro-life voters to vote ONLY for Republican candidates for the Senate and House, but especially the absolutely vital Senate seats.
We MUST hold as many Republican Senate seats as we can, as they will be the ONLY defense against the very damamging agenda of a Democratic President (whomever) and a Democratic large majority in Congress.
I do NOT believe Obama will EVER take power, so take whatever comfort you can from that.
If you want more information go to the website of the man, Phil Berg, whose case against Obama is before the Supreme Court:
http://WWW.OBAMACRIMES.COM
PIP,
If there was a video of Obama knifing somebody to death, would you still vote for him? would you reconsider your vote?
if he gets in the house GOD HELP US.
We can work together for impeachment, make sure it is fact not thought.
Posted by: kyle33541 at November 3, 2008 12:18 PM
-Impeach? Um, on what grounds exactly? You don’t like him? Doesn’t work that way.
And, you’re talking about the election as if it were inevitable. Trust me, I’m an Obama supporter, but let’s just see what happens tomorrow.
I don’t know if you have mentioned it before, but can you tell us what state you live in? I don’t know people who think like you.
Posted by: Janet at November 3, 2008 11:20 AM
Hi Janet, I’m in Washington State, nice and blue here. I don’t know anyone who thinks like you. Posted by: hal at November 3, 2008 12:33 PM
-Thank God for blue states, Hal! Sad that we have to separate ourselves like this, but – I quite like living in my fake America bubble as well!
Since those nations are not buying up the debt you are creating by asking for more hand outs from the almighty government, what does that mean to your future?
Posted by: yllas at November 3, 2008 1:27 PM
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I never asked for more government hand outs. I’d like the cost of health care to be taken from the employers and paid for some other way. I don’t think employers can afford it anymore. Does that make me a Republican?
“If there was a video of Obama knifing somebody to death, would you still vote for him? would you reconsider your vote?”
Is this a serious question?
Hal,
Hi Janet, I’m in Washington State, nice and blue here. I don’t know anyone who thinks like you. I had a nice talk with a Catholic woman last week who wanted to vote for Obama, but her priest made her feel guilty about it. I showed her all the great stuff the Catholics for Obama have been writing, and she voted her conscience.
What about your Episcopal minister friend? Isn’t he a little bit like me? Have you talked to him recently? I wonder who he’s voting for…
I’m glad to hear you had a nice talk with a Catholic (*gasp*) woman last week. So did you show your Catholic Obama-supporter “friend” the USCCB Document on FaIthful Citizenship in addition to the Catholics for Obama mush, or did you conveniently forget that part? I’m afraid if she did vote for Obama, her conscience was not a “well-formed” one and it’s your fault. (Well, not really your fault.)
Janet, I did make contact with him, although we haven’t had any political talks yet. I’m hoping we can soon.
Just want to offer a few positive words about Washington State. If King County were to be annexed by Canada, few of the residents of Seattle would notice any difference, except it would seem an improvement to them.
The rest of the State would immediately feel a great burden lifted from their shoulders and their pocket books. Other than King County most of the citizens are as conservative and compassionate as any other red state in the union.
I had the good fortune to labor together with many of them.
So HAL is Baird Bardarson still alive and kicking. Still receiving honorable mentions for his contribution to the child killing industry in Washington State. Did you know Baird advertized that he performed abortions through the second trimester in the yellow pages, not only in Seattle, but in the surrounding states, British Columbia, Canada and Alaska. What a humanitarian. He single handedly suppressed the birth rate in the Northwest.
Will the Democrats have more votes than registered voters again this year?
Is Barabra Rothesteen still legislating from the federal bench?
You know she once issued a state wide injunction to quell abortion protests. Love that liberal version of ‘democracy.’ Could you find me another example where that has happened in recent history any where in the United States, much less Washington State?
“Is this a serious question?”
No PIP, I was joking :)
vote pro-life tomorrow.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I never asked for more government hand outs. I’d like the cost of health care to be taken from the employers and paid for some other way. I don’t think employers can afford it anymore. Does that make me a Republican?
Posted by: hal at November 3, 2008 2:49 PM
That’s a hand out, “paid for some other way”, and asking me to take care of your health care instead of yourself, Hal. Because that is what the O man is going to do, he’s going to make others pay by taxing me twice for your health care and mine. Twice? Yes, once on the local level, by the fact that your house payment includes within it a tax on health care known as a “hospital district”, which collects taxes for health care locally.
Interestingly enough, if you use the hospital(emergency room,etc.) which taxes you via the hospital district tax attached unto your mortgage payment(escrow account), you still are required to pay that hospital for services rendered.
And if you don’t pay the tax, or fail to pay the government owned hospital, usually a hospital associated with a university, a lien is placed upon your property.
Now, according to all the O man rhetoric, and it is true, millions of homes are in default throughout the nation. What happens to a hospital district and the bonds floated by those districts to operate that “university hospital”, when the tax base has eroded into 30 or 40 percent less revenue? Say Las Vegas to Boston?
The O man is going to tax more, and is taxing you for health care which doesn’t deliever anyway via SSI taxes on income. Why? Because it is the only way that government produces anything, by taking income,liens, and more, from citizens and returning to the citizen less care then they payed in, and then making them pay again by liening their property or house/home.
But, you didn’t answer my questions posed by the Bloomberg article and the effect upon your future, Hal.
Think Hal,
the O man is another corporate welfare politician who is going to make you pay more for any consumption by you, Hal. Consume a education? Pay more from bad investments made by universities in Wall Street blunders, being made up on the back of students through higher tuition cost. Try and get a loan through Sallie May? Go ask those selfish debtbeat genners who took the money and ran. Ok, raise the taxes for education.
The O man is going to be known as the first president to rule over a nation whose time of prosperity has ended. Think England and the non-productive welfare state that England is. They consumed and had only some “money left” from their long lost Empire. Now, it’s gone and their nation consumes with no production of “consumable goods” within the nation.
And there is nothing he can do about it.
Obama is worse than a liar. He is morally bankrupt. How can people expect somebody who is anti-life to bring peace and consensus to our nation? NOT possible. It takes anti-death people to to bring peace to our world.
The O man is going to be known as the first president to rule over a nation whose time of prosperity has ended. Think England and the non-productive welfare state that England is. They consumed and had only some “money left” from their long lost Empire. Now, it’s gone and their nation consumes with no production of “consumable goods” within the nation.
yllas, this has been going on for a long time. Heck, since the 1960’s we’ve gone downhill in some economic respects. Johnson and Nixon didn’t do so well on this stuff.
You’re right about not actually producing real-value goods while still consuming them.
The more recent administrations, which will end up being at least 20 of the last 28 years in Republican hands, haven’t done anything meaningful to stop the process.