Polls jump in McCain/Palin’s favor
Polls out today…
USA Today:” McCain leads… Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters, the Republican’s biggest advantage since January and a turnaround from the USA Today poll poll taken just before the convention opened in St. Paul. Then, he lagged by 7%….”
Gallup: “… McCain has overtaken… Obama… and has his highest level of support… since early May. McCain leads Obama 48% to 45% among registered voters…. Obama peaked at a 5-point convention bounce… last Tuesday. He was ahead 49% to 43% … before the Republican convention. He then soared to 50% for the first time of the election… while McCain fell to 42%.”…
Zogby: “The McCain/Palin ticket wins 49.7% support, compared to 45.9% backing for the Obama/Biden ticket….”
Rasmussen: “… [W]hen “leaners” are included, Obama and McCain are now tied at 48%. That means that, by Rasmussen’s measure, Obama’s 6-point bounce has been erased.”
CBS News: “[P]olling had shown the same outcome [as Rasmussen] midway through the GOP convention.”
Nielsen: “[T]he Republican convention earned more television viewers than the Democratic convention. Republicans earned an average audience of 34.5 million, while Democrats earned an average viewership of 30.2 million.”
[Photo of McCain/Palin in Colorado Springs yesterday courtesy of the Associated Press]
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Satan is indeed powerful.
I’m just trying to imagine what your reaction would be if Obama were up four points and someone on here wrote what you just wrote, Hal.
So much for the Obama coronation.
(clapping)
No wonder the liberals are in a panic, they live in their utopia worldview and can’t fathom there are actual human beings that live in fly over country.
And how exactly is the statment, “satain is powerful connected to the polls”?
Now I get it, Hal wants Obama to win.
Best be careful, what is subscribed to satan that turns out to be God; there’s a high price to pay for that assumption.
This week should be more indicative than the present bump. If McCain is consistently up by 5+% at the end of this week, it is a sign that a more fully informed electorate, previously conditioned to settling toward Obama as a matter of dispositon (e.g., after the talk-up of one of Obama’s truth-wounds, such as Jeremiah Wright) have instead begun to truly align their souls toward McCain.
bmmg39.
I don’t think Hal would care. I don’t think he believes in God or Satan, he simply mocks those who do.
DeeL, you are correct.
I am unhappy with the polls, no doubt about that. I can’t send any more money to Obama, so I’ll have to help out in other ways.
“Up or down, we believe national polls are meaningless,” Obama spokesman Bill Burton told Fox news.
Riiiiiiiggggghhhhhttttt. Unless your guy is UP in the polls.
Carla, at this stage of the game they don’t mean much. When there’s been a post-convention bounce, it has no meaningful predictive value. You might as well flip a coin.
That said, I do think Palin and McCain did well at their convention, and just as all along, we’ve got us a horserace.
Hal:
Calling God’s work of satan is actaully blasphemy.
In fact attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to satan is an unforgivable sin.
Whether or not you have committed this I do not know.
I urge to immeidateley go to God and ask Him to forgive you for saying what you just said, for if we call on Him, He is no way cast you out.
If you continue in this mode Hal, nothing will save you, hence, you make youself unreachable and unforgivable.
It will be interesting when the voters learn about Saint Sarah’s religious background, like curing homosexuality by “praying away the gay”, the “Third Wave” belief in the end of the world, the speaking in tongues. Her pastors make Jeremiah Wright look like a Unitarian.
I believe this is the first time a major party has nominated a religious nutball for national office.
LTL,
I speak in tongues LTL, and I am fairly sure that I would much better suited to run a country than you, wouldnt you agree?
Hal,
Are you still super happy that he picked Palin?
The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is more an indication of a heart condition expressed in the inability to see God’s hand in anything and is manifested by speaking or blaspheming or attributing something good and wonderful that God does to satan.
When Jesus healed people and the Pharisees said he did this by the power of Beelzubub it was evidence that even with Jesus Himself, the Creator of the Umiverse, the fullness of God, standing and performing God’s work right in front of their eyes by destroying the work of satan, were unable to see God. Their hearts had been so hardened, so blinded, so calloused that even God couldn’t reach them. Believing fully what was in their hearts, they expressed that belief by attributing Christ’s work to satan. While this was forgivable since the Holy Spirit had not yet been sent forth from the Father, there was still a chance that they might repent.
Jesus stern warning implied that there would be no more chances after the Spirit was sent since the Holy Spirit was the only Presnece of God left on earth after He ascended to Heaven. To reject the Spirit’s work, the only possible way to see God, was in effect committing spiritual suicide.
In a nutsehll, the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the sin of so often and so consistently refusing God’s will that in the end it cannot be regognozed. As long as one is willing to seek forgiveness they have not committed the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Hal, in love, I beg you friend, to please seek God’s mercy, please, we all love you on this site and do not wish to see you perish. He loves you Hal, He died for you Hal, please come home.
and in doing that blashemed the Holy Spirit. They had exposed themselved for who they really were.
HI Doug,
If they don’t mean much or they are meaningless then what do they mean??? :)
This, along with the evangelical boost should, “should” provide a great deal of stickyness in the electorate’s dispositions. McCain may now lose New Hampshire, but could gain every midwest state but Illinois. Conservative but pro-union voters of midwest river towns are the most critical swing vote, here. They went to Gore, then Kerry.
(Pennsylvania may depend upon the HRC machinery, some overt, some covert and McCain should avoid getting too close to that.)
When the infanticide cover-up blew, then the Revelations of Saddleback got out of the gates, voters of semi-informed conscience started to wake up and ask, “Is this really happening?”
With the Sarah Palin squad car came into St. Paul for Officer McCain’s “backup,” they started looking at each other and saying, “Yes.”
You forgot to mention the USA Today/Gallup poll. Here are the results:
McCain 54
Obama 44
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/09/usa_todaygallup_mccain_10.html
LTL,
Before you shoot off your big yapper, get your facts straight. You are so off base with most of your statements it’s laughable.
Abortion is a national crisis.
God always sends a person, a person fullly committed to Him as a solution to the crisis.
The evidence: Abraham, Joseph, Daniel, David, Esther, Ruth, Mary, Paul…..
and now Sarah Palin.
Thank you, God.
Dream on, LTL.
Some of us have known for a long time that Obama wouldn’t be elected because he’s an empty suit.
Others among us, apparently, have yet to learn that.
LTL,
There is a bit of a difference between hating America, and wanting “Black Supremecy” and praying for people. But since you don’t have a clue what prayer is, it’s really no wonder that you associate the two.
Actually this is one of those rare times when a non-denominational church is a good thing to someone like me that is a Devout Catholic.
It means that you can pretty much believe whatever you want…there IS not agenda. That’s the point.
Unlike Rev. Wrights church which had AGENDA written all over it.
I mean it seems pretty silly to me to complain that *GASP*, people in Sarah Palins church are PRAYING!!!!!
Oh and LTL,
One more thing…considering no one knows what the heck you’re talkin’ about most of the time…You too might be accused of speaking in tongues…forked that is.
It means that you can pretty much believe whatever you want…there IS no agenda. That’s the point.
Well obviously, you can’t believe WHATEVER you want…I meant in the context of the Christian Faith…no offense to my non denominational friends…
Sorry to blaspheme Saint Sarah, but like the lies about earmarks, the state jet, the bridge to nowhere, the truth about her beliefs will come out.
LTL,
The truth about her beliefs has already come out. She is a Christian that belongs to a non denominational church. What else is there to know?
As for your other gripes…
Bridge to nowhere…changed her mind, realized it wasn’t worth it.
Earmarks…WASTEFUL spending..say it with me…WASTEFUL spending.
State Jet…sold, Profits returned to tax payers.
Oh yeah, she’s a scary, scary woman.
She gives money back to her constituents, called off a project when she realized it was going “nowhere”, and PRAYS in her church…I’m shaking.
Sorry to blaspheme Saint Sarah, but like the lies about earmarks, the state jet, the bridge to nowhere, the truth about her beliefs will come out.
Posted by: LTL at September 8, 2008 1:33 PM
Saints are proclaimed after death not before, and she’s not Catholic.
Sarah is not a “saint.” She is a human being, and she will make a lot of mistakes. The republican form of government appreciates sinful human nature much better than the unrestricted democratic form.
Well Olie, you called this one rather well, Real Clear’s ‘Poll of Polls’ has Mc’Cane’ up 3.2%.
They also have Mc’Cane’ down 8 Electoral seats to Obama with Toss Up forces to and either/or. With 147 Toss Ups taken out, Obama 217, Mc’Cane’ 174.
Personally where I see the really (R) strength at the voting booth this year as in the past, is in Voter Suppression and with E-Voting Machines. The E-Vote favoured Bush last election.
Snerd
“I don’t think he believes in God or Satan, he simply mocks those who do.
Posted by: DeeL at September 8, 2008 11:38 AM”
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That’s all Hal can do…with the Obaminator slipping, sliding his way to oblivion each passing day, right Hal?
Snerd,
Dont get me wrong. I didnt call anything other than Palin being a benefit. By the way, is Hal still saying that he is happy with the choice? Anyways…
It really has been and still is a close enough race that the debates can and most likely will have a significant impact. I am hoping, of course, that Obama continues to back peddle and shift towards the center, despite his motto of change, and that it turns off a lot of manipulated voters. I also hope that Palin continues to hold up in the face of scrutiny and has a good showing at the debate.
Hey, it’s 12 Electoral College votes in Obama’s favour now.
Snerd
Olie: I am hoping, of course, that Obama continues to back peddle and shift towards the center, despite his motto of change, and that it turns off a lot of manipulated voters. I also hope that Palin continues to hold up in the face of scrutiny and has a good showing at the debate.
SG: I think Obama does get rattled at times. However, what has impressed me to date is, he does regain his footing. And again, qualified with ‘to date’, he has demonstrated significant ability in running a campaign that unseated Hillary, energized the youth, etc., etc.
He is however, much better speaking outta conviction than being political (i.e. moving to the center). The wags in the (D) party have demonstrated anything but backbone, and I think they are getting his ear, lately. This is all new to him, and I think he may stumble a bit more, but will regain his footing again.
“… As David Brooks noted on a Sunday chat show, the Palin “sizzle” is what’s keeping McCain’s campaign from bottoming out into Dole-style torpor.”
Palin is new, unknown and hot (R)ight now. That will cool with time and t(R)oopergate is a ticking time bomb I think. She also hasn’t really been confronted with Hillary yet, let alone the Press.
As you say, lots to go yet …
Snerd
I wonder how big an effect Obama’s support for infanticide is having on people’s picks for president? I mean, as the news about Obama and his voting against the Illinois version of BAIPA gets out his numbers have got to go down.
Ezek,
I agree, but I would bet that half of Obama’s supporters still don’t understand what Partial Birth Abortion is. We need to get the media to continue addressing the issue.
Snerd:
I disagree. Obama has shown himself to very partisan. Yes he beat Hilary, but on a lot of platforms that he is now shifting. Considering he voted with the Democratic Party 96% of the time, I would suggest that he is be no means the “non-political” type. Unless, of course, it is sheer coincidence that he holds nearly the exact views of the current ruling Party in America and Congress.
I also think that while Palin is “exciting” and will probably lose some of the charm across the two month period, she has solidified the conersvative base both by being a near perfect conersvative politician and also by the polarization of the frivilous media attacks. I wonder how much of Obama’s protest was motivated by his concern that the “bad press” was helping the conservatives rally.
Now considering that she is connecting with the Coservatives, McCain will be allowed to push after the Democrats and Independents that he has often shown to be well liked by. Hopefully this is the route he will take….
We will have a better idea by the end of the next two weeks, after all the bounces go away, and the first debate is over with.
National Polls matter to the press and that is all…Consistent state polling is where you need to look. National Polls only matter if we didn’t have electoral voting…
Check the state polls and then you will see a worried irrational McCain that will probably pick a nobody pro lifer to please the crazy extreme right…oh, wait, he did that.
Hey, it’s 12 Electoral College votes in Obama’s favour now.
Snerd
Posted by: Anonymous at September 8, 2008 2:35 PM
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That’s becuase they don’t conduct state-by-state polling with the frequency that they conduct national polls. After all, it’s going to be difficult to see a national swing of over 15 points, +10 for McCain now, wihtout having more states fall into the McCain column. Just wait.
Interesting article in Newsweek on line by Katie Paul 9/6/08 “On Gov. Sarah Palin’s Watch Alaska Liberalized its Abortion Laws.”
Palin apparently denied the legislature’s request for extra debates on parental consent and partial-birth abortion bills.
Clearly under the rationale Jill applies to Obama, Palin supports “infanticide”.
To buttress Charles’s point, Obama leads by 1.0% in Colorado, but the last statewide poll there is from August 26. But nothing’s happened since two weeks ago, right?
“It will be interesting when the voters learn about Saint Sarah’s religious background, like curing homosexuality by “praying away the gay”, the “Third Wave” belief in the end of the world, the speaking in tongues. Her pastors make Jeremiah Wright look like a Unitarian.
I believe this is the first time a major party has nominated a religious nutball for national office.”
Posted by: LTL at September 8, 2008 12:14 PM
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Here’s where you’re making a big mistake.
Americans (on the whole) don’t like people’s closley held faith belittled. They won’t tolerate it, that’s why Obama’s faith/s/or lack thereof has not made a dent in his populairty, his die hard supporters not withstanding.
One would think you liberals learned a lesson from taking apart Palin over the last few days…but, keep up the good work.
The more you people spew the better the McCain/Palin ticket does! :)
I would have to agree with the last post that the more people bash Palin the more likely she and McCain win. Keep the insults rollin!
Also….is it only obvious to me that Obama is going to lost because he’s pro-infanticide?
This is a single issue election and the issue is abortion.
I’m not religious, but I am familiar with a few different churches, and I find L(oser)T(hat)L(ies)’s aghast reaction to speaking in tongues-as though they were eating live puppies or something-laughable. What a moron.
Anyone else noticing how DEFENSIVE and ANGRY Obama seems to be getting???
“I’m not religious, but I am familiar with a few different churches, and I find L(oser)T(hat)L(ies)’s aghast reaction to speaking in tongues-as though they were eating live puppies or something-laughable. What a moron.”
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Thank you for making my point, Xalisae. :)
The average American (for lack of a better word) does not like people’s religious views bashed.
It’s the very reason this nation was founded; religious freedom.
But, I hope the left keeps right on doing what they’re doing. They’ll shoot themselves in the foot and spend the next four years in shock! (snicker) :)
Xalise.
We’re X-UPC pentecostals. Anytime we tell someone we’re pentecostal we get this response “OH WOW…DO YOU HANDLE SNAKES?!?”
Um…no, no we don’t, but thanks for playing.
It’s my understanding that Gov. Palin is Assembly of God, which is a trinitarian pentecostal denomination which is less legalistic than the United Pentecostal Church.
We have good friends who grew up in AoG and had great experiences. My husband’s parents were actually UPC, and under strict standards, but they also had great experiences.
As an aside, the Clintons are affiliated with the UPC and Chelsea used to go to a UPC summercamp.
Anyways, Pentecostals are hardly “scary”. We’re just normal Christians who happen to pray differently. I don’t know about some of y’all but when I pray in a traditional way I tend to let my mind wander to things that aren’t really what I want to be praying about. When I’m in the Spirit and praying in tongues, I send to be much more focused.
Oops, oliver at 7:44 was me.
I would have to agree with the last post that the more people bash Palin the more likely she and McCain win. Keep the insults rollin!
Also….is it only obvious to me that Obama is going to lost because he’s pro-infanticide?
This is a single issue election and the issue is abortion.
Posted by: theelizabethwhoisnottheregularelizabeth at September 8, 2008 7:03 PM
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Speak for yourself.
I believe this is the first time a major party has nominated a religious nutball for national office.
Posted by: LTL at September 8, 2008 12:14 PM
You have to be kidding. Did you hear about that
nutball Obama who calls himself Christian and voted NOT to protect born alive infants from murder and said he was against the Supreme Court’s decision last year banning partial birth abortion. Anybody who can hold those beliefs and call themselves Christian is nothing if not a religious nutball. lol
LTL, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
AoG is pretty mild. They’re not snake handlers, they’re not poision drinkers, and they’re not “crazy”.
We really need to stop telling LTL and the ilk to stop criticizing religion. Why help them stop being themselves. The media and the little talking points people that post pro-abort here are really doing us a favor. Perhaps we should encourage them to creep a bit further out of their shells…
Let’s just turn the other cheek and let the polls continue to slide our way.
Anyone else noticing how DEFENSIVE and ANGRY Obama seems to be getting???
Posted by: Carla at September 8, 2008 7:26 PM
Carla,
My hunch is that his O’Reilly interviews put him on the defensive. We have yet to view them all, I think there’s one tonight and tomorrow night, but I remember Bill commenting that things got pretty heated when the subject of O’s “associations” came up.
Bless his heart, but when Bama opens his mouth, we’re bound to hear another ‘oops’.
‘Nother thing,
We the people have had ninetten months, NINETEEN MONTHS of Obama this, Obama that, Bama, Bama, Bama, that he should have this in his pocket by now. But he’s barely inched above 50%.
Interpretations anyone? I am sincerely curious as to why that is?
I will quote Obama, Carder.
“Americans aren’t stupid.” :)
I see Oprah is taking some heat too. Must be the email you sent her, right?
NBC News confirmed this morning that Alaska has the most liberal abortion laws in the nation, and Palin as Governor not only did not try to tighten them, but actively stopped debate and legislative action on parental notification and partial birth abortion bills.
When the proponents tried to reintroduce the partial birth and parental notification bills by attaching them to the pipeline bills, Palin stripped them off, saying that the “pipeline was too important” to jeopardize it with divisive wedge issues.
If a Democrat governor had taken the identical action, Jill would be denouncing that governor as “pro abort” and “supporting infanticide”.
For those of us who are concerned about Palin’s extremist views, it gives some indication that she leaves them at home, and pursues a more pragmatic approach in the political arena.
Palin’s record as governor suggests that McCain/Palin would preserve the status quo on abortion rights, which is what most voters want.
LTL-
do you perhaps have a link to this information? That would make things interesting though, if that came out the electorate she enthused may suddenly cool off yet again. Hmm…
If this is true and McCain does win perhaps I won’t be quite as upset if it truly is a pragmatic approach, but somehow I’m not comfortable assuming it is at this point.
For those of us who are concerned about Palin’s extremist views, it gives some indication that she leaves them at home, and pursues a more pragmatic approach in the political arena.
Palin’s record as governor suggests that McCain/Palin would preserve the status quo on abortion rights, which is what most voters want.
Posted by: LTL at September 9, 2008 10:36 AM
There you go, reason for you to vote for her. :)
Dan, the Newsweek article is referenced at 5:01 yesterday above. The other reference was a report this morning on the “Today” show.
I am not all all comfortable with Palin, I just want to note that her public record is more pragmatic than her extremist views.
The story of the day is how Palin billed the state thousands or hundreds of thousands in expenses to live and eat AT HOME, and billed thousands for travel expenses for her children.
The MSM is totally on to Palin, with Time mag. calling the “bridge to nowhere” story a LIE.
The Palin myth is about to come crashing down.
“Anyone else noticing how DEFENSIVE and ANGRY Obama seems to be getting???
Posted by: Carla at September 8, 2008 7:26 PM”
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He’s realizing his “dreams” are slipping thru his fingers day by day….and he’s getting frustrated and reckless…
IF he becomes president (God forbid), guess how he’ll react when his plans start to fall apart…”above my pay grade” response, perhaps?
After all the hoopla and speeches..in the end his tarnished image is all that’s left…no substance, no backbone, no experience.
I highly doubt the Democrats would even want him back for the 2012 elections…some speculate it might be a Hillary vs Sarah battle.
LTL,
Sarah Palin and parental notification.
http://www.lifenews.com/state3460.html
The MSM is totally on to Palin, with Time mag. calling the “bridge to nowhere” story a LIE.
The Palin myth is about to come crashing down.
Posted by: LTL at September 9, 2008 11:49 AM
According to FOX today, “the more the elite media say about Palin, the higher her ratings go. She and McCain have gained 8-10 points with Women and Independents.
LYL @ 11:49,
The story of the day is how Palin billed the state thousands or hundreds of thousands in expenses to live and eat AT HOME, and billed thousands for travel expenses for her children.
How many thousand? Source, please?
LTL @ 11:49,
The story of the day is how Palin billed the state thousands or hundreds of thousands in expenses to live and eat AT HOME, and billed thousands for travel expenses for her children.
Janet @ 1:02,
How many thousand? Source, please?
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NEVER MIND, it was answered on another thread.
Answer: $ 98, 000.00 That will hardly break the bank, and was less than the $400,000.00+ spent by her predecessor.
If they don’t mean much or they are meaningless then what do they mean??? :)
Carla, they don’t mean much at this stage of the campaign, especially when things are close.
The day before election, if one has a 20% lead, for example, well then I’d say it’s a done deal and the polls have great significance in that case.
Okey doke, Doug.