Weekend question: Why is EMILY’s List avoiding the topic of abortion in its ads?
We’re all used to pro-aborts avoiding the A-word by using the code word “choice.”
But here’s a new one.
EMILY’s List, “a community of progressive Americans dedicated to electing pro-choice Democratic women to every level of office,” according to its website, has begun running an ad against pro-lifer Cory Gardner, who is running for Congress in CO-4 – and it totally avoids the topic of abortion altogether.
In fact, you would think the ad is pro-family if you weren’t cynical enough to know its attack points are total spin…
This is the most disingenuous political ad possible. A group whose sole focus is clearing the way to abort children is feigning concern about education funding, children with autism, and deadbeat dads?
Why do you think EMILY’s List is hiding its true agenda?
[HT: Leslie Hanks of The Passionate Pro-Lifer]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
This is just a weird question – do you not ever watch political ads? For instance, John McCain wanted to be elected, as did Obama – so most of their ads talked about why the other person was bad. You make the other person look bad – unfortunately, that’s the game (rather than making yourself look good). Emily’s list doesn’t appear to be promoting pro-choice – they are trying to get pro-choice people elected. How do you do that? Ads like this.
Both sides of the abortion debate compare some of the most shady people in the country – it is really sad actually – I’m not sure why the fake outrage here?
Not a weird question, but I think it has an easy answer. In just the last couple of years, the polls tipped and everyone got the memo that America is majority pro-life now. So while pro-life PACs can simply run ads which say “Candidate X is anti-abortion, Candidate Y is not” and know that a majority of voters will use that infomation the right way, that strategy is not productive for pro-abortion groups.
Probably because their sole agenda isn’t abortion….
Welcome to reality. Prochoicers care about kids, care about families, care about making people healthy, care about education, care about living human beings.
Ex-GOP, you are kidding, right? The question here is certainly not whether one side wants to make the other look bad. That’s a given, so you’re whole comment is a red herring. I have seen tons of ads by pro-abort groups, and they always say straight out when someone is “against choice” (though they never say WHAT choice, everyone knows they mean abortion). That they are skirting the whole subject completely here is a clear sign, as Kelsey said, that “pro-choice” is bad politics right now.
KushielsMoon, if you would just go to the EMILY’s List website, you would see very clearly that their agenda is not the universal peace love and happiness one that you describe. The prerequisites for what candidates get their endorsements are quite simple: be a Democrat, be a woman, and most importantly oppose all restrictions on abortion, including partial-birth killing. “Care about living human beings?” Dream on.
Lori –
Here’s my question then. Was FotF in the same boat because they didn’t overtly say that the Tim Tebow ad was pro-life? It talked about something else, when, like this, we all know the background agenda.
I think it is a fair question.
Heinous. I went to high school (and elementary school!) with Cory Gardner. I’m telling you right now that he is a good man-the real deal. Why can’t EMILY’s List come right out and say that he doesn’t promote their baby-killing agenda? Because the majority of Americans are pro-life right now, that’s why.
The polls are actually interesting. A majority of folks are “pro-life”, yet a bigger majority don’t want R v Wade overturned. How does that work?
Ex-GOP, in the Tebow case, they were under heavy restrictions from the network (CBS, I think) who said they wouldn’t do ads that advocated a particular position, which is why it had to be so general. Not the same thing as a political ad at all.
Valid point Lori. Okay to be shady under the right restrictions! :-)
EGV,
Sometimes it almost seems like there is a part of your brain that doesn’t work…no offense.
Are you telling us that there isn’t any part of you that isn’t outraged by a group feigning concern for children and families while they plot to kill children?
There’s nothing fake about my rage.
I have no idea why you have no empathy for pre-born children and have given up trying to understand why.
I can’t even figure out why you post here.
“Welcome to reality. Prochoicers care about kids…”
Posted by: KushielsMoon at July 17, 2010 11:55 AM
Correction moony: Prochoicers care about the kids they don’t want to kill. If they truly cared about families and making people healthy, they wouldn’t want mothers carrying the emotional scars of past abortions.
Tell us, how does killing a pre-born living human being contribute to their health?
That’s some kind of reality you’re peddling.
Pretty dark.
You’re extremely deluded.
You need to get a clue…life is passing you by.
Trust me, you don’t want to die in your current state of deception.
EGP, there was nothing “shady” or underhanded about the Tebow ad. They weren’t trying to conceal what they were for, even though they had to work with the restrictions. They included a link to their website where the whole story was told.
I’m with Ed. You keep tying yourself up in knots in order not to see the obvious. Why do you post these things?
Ed – I post for a few reasons – to get more education on the topic and to see the current events when it comes to abortion. I go to quite a few “extreme” sites out there – the far fringes of the debate – it isn’t really reality, but it is fun to see what exists out there.
Why do I think Emily’s List hides its true agenda?
The same reason Obama hid his.
Obama hides how moderate he is to avoid losing the support of the left. Is that what you meant Mary?
Emily’s List?
I’d rather be in the Mafia.
Ex-GOP Voter writes:”The polls are actually interesting. A majority of folks are “pro-life”, yet a bigger majority don’t want R v Wade overturned. How does that work?”
A good question. The answer is that the public is woefully ill-informed about that historic decision. For instance, most people believe Roe v. Wade legalized abortion only in the first trimester. The truth is, of course, that it legalized elective abortion throughout pregnancy. Sometimes the pollsters actually state that misinformation as a prelude to the question they ask. They say someting like “Roe v. Wade legalized abortion during the first trimester, do you think that decision should be overturned?”, thus reinforcing the false impression that the respondent probably already has. I know of no poll where the pollster states that Roe legalized elective abortion throughout pregnancy and then asks the respondent if he/she thinks it should be overturned. (If any reader knows of such a poll I stand corrected). I believe that if the public were as informed about Roe as they should be the poll results would be very different.
Ex-GOP Voter writes:”The polls are actually interesting. A majority of folks are “pro-life”, yet a bigger majority don’t want R v Wade overturned. How does that work?”
A good question. The answer is that the public is woefully ill-informed about that historic decision. For instance, most people believe Roe v. Wade legalized abortion only in the first trimester. The truth is, of course, that it legalized elective abortion throughout pregnancy. Sometimes the pollsters actually state that misinformation as a prelude to the question they ask. They say someting like “Roe v. Wade legalized abortion during the first trimester, do you think that decision should be overturned?”, thus reinforcing the false impression that the respondent probably already has. I know of no poll where the pollster states that Roe legalized elective abortion throughout pregnancy and then asks the respondent if he/she thinks it should be overturned. (If any reader knows of such a poll I stand corrected). I believe that if the public were as informed about Roe as they should be the poll results would be very different.
Joanne
I agree completely the reason a lot of Americans aren’t more involved in the pro-life movement is because they really don’t know all of the atrocities committed in the name of choice. I think the pro-choicers who are militant who have an agenda when it comes to abortion also understand completely that the reason they have been successful thus far is because of their ability to manipulate public opinion. Earlier when I was reading about the amounts of money they make on the deaths of children what came to mind was a big fat tick.
Monday I have a test in Algebra, prayers would be appreciated. Lots and lots of prayer! Pray that God would help my brain to remember everything I’ve learned so far. Between the menopause and add algebra is challenging.
Hal 5:39PM
LOL. You’re a great comedian Hal.
myrtle miller,
Praying you’ll do well on your Algebra test!
E.G.O.P.V.
This is the way it works, Americans tend to be for the most part very tolerant of the choices others make. Thus their tolerance of the abortion movement. Tolerance is not the same as acceptance. When people are better informed of the humanity of the preborn baby they are less tolerant and fortunately election results often reflect this beautiful fact. The reason polls show differently is because not all people are polled and the way polls are conducted are not always honest.
Ed – I post for a few reasons – to get more education on the topic and to see the current events when it comes to abortion. I go to quite a few “extreme” sites out there – the far fringes of the debate – it isn’t really reality, but it is fun to see what exists out there.
Posted by: Ex-GOP Voter at July 17, 2010 5:12 PM
All right EGV, let’s see just how informed and courageous you are.
I have a Weekend Question just for you!
Ready? Here we go: Study the abortion educational videos here and here. Review each video at least twice.
Now your question has four parts:
1. Compared with the research you’ve done on the subject to date, do you believe these videos portray the reality of abortion?
2. Do you find these videos “fun” or entertaining?
3. Did you even have the courage to watch the videos?
4. Assuming you had the courage to watch the videos (which is probably a stretch), will you continue to view the abortion debate as a spectacle for your entertainment or will your conscience compel you to act, to do something about the thousands of innocent children that are being slaughtered in our neighborhoods every day?
Frankly, I’m ashamed at my own passivity.
I must do more.
Robert Baker reminds folks to remember and practice identifying the types of persuasion used in political ads”
In rhetoric, people use words in order to convince. Sometimes their words are logical, sometimes their words aren’t logical. Here are just a few “illogical” appeals to emotion that are commonly used by speakers in order to persuade.
The first is the appeal to consequences. An example might be, “Vote for proposition X. If X is approved, apples for everyone!”
Another is the appeal to fear. Here, an example might be, “Vote for proposition X. If you don’t, calamity will occur.”
Still another is the appeal to flattery. As in, “You have all the power, so I’m sure that you’ll make the right decision concerning proposition X.”
Yet another is the appeal to pity. As in, “Group A has done so much work on proposition X, it would be a shame if it were not approved.”
Still another is the appeal to ridicule. As in, “Surely those who do not support proposition X can’t be serious–and this is serious business!”
Yet another is the appeal to spite. As in, “You don’t want our opponents to succeed, do you? Then vote for proposition X.”
Finally, there is the appeal to ignorance. As in, “We don’t know what will happen if proposition X is not approved. But whatever it is, our gut tells us it won’t be good.”
When someone is trying to persuade you, listen carefully to their words. Avoid being swayed by appeals to emotion and ask yourself, “Does what I’m hearing make good sense?”
http://bioethike.com/2010/07/12/beware-of-the-appeal-to-emotion/
I got a message for America (and Canada, and Europe, and Israel, and any other country where abortion is legal):
STOP KILLING YOUR BABIES!!!!
Choose Life!
“Prochoicers care about kids, care about families, care about making people healthy, care about education, care about living human beings.”
Yeah, you care about living human beings…until you rip them apart in the womb and make them dead human beings. What about abortion makes people healthy? Nothing.
Ed –
With all due respect to your passionate post (it really was stirring and moving) – it isn’t as if I’ve come across a pro-life site that puts together rallies and coordinates petitions. It is a site that posts current events, makes statements and observations, and many people comment on it. To a certain degree, I think boards like this need a few folks like me and Hal to call BS when needed.
Quite frankly, if everyone were pro-life like me, we’d have no issue. No aborted babies in our family. Three kids (well, after a couple more months). We need more folks that figure that out early in life – not participate in and have abortions and then come to their senses.
why? Because how many people would actually vote for a person who believes in the right to kill babies?
With a majority of American’s either prolife or favoring significant restrictions, they are not going to go this route.
Typical proabort strategy IMO.
Lie about abortion deaths. Lie about abortion consequences. Lie about what you really are doing.
Lie. Lie. Lie.
That’s what “choice” is all about.
That’s why it’s so satanic. Because the father of Lies is Satan.a
angel @ 8:38 AM,
“Typical proabort strategy IMO.”
“Lie about abortion deaths. Lie about abortion consequences. Lie about what you really are doing.”
You hit the nail on the head!
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Ex-GOP Voter,
Congratulations on your new baby (still in the womb)!
Prochoicers care about kids, care about families, care about making people healthy, care about education, care about living human beings.
KM, prolifers care about these things too. Many prolife people work in the helping professions, like Jill and myself, volunteer, and do other things to try to make the world a better place. The media is so quick to demonize us that they ignore this aspect of the prolife movement.
phillymiss you are so right. The majority of prolifers I know we spend many hours volunteering, giving in time, dollars, praying for and with women, mentoring, teaching, providing baby equipment, supplies, maternity homes, adoption services etc., providing or referring to medical care, providing counseling, parenting classes, abstinence education and LOVING all the women, men, families and babies born and unborn that we come in contact with no matter their race, creed, age, churched, unchurched or socio-economic status and did I say it is ALL FREE AND CONFIDENTIAL. BTW I have met plenty of prolifers who have adopted babies (black and white babies) to save their lives and taken unwed moms into their homes that were kicked out by their parents. Planned Parenthood or should I say Banned Parenthood lies to you! Cha-ching did anyone hear the cash register ring at PP? We “walk the walk” and show our love by our actions. No bragging, no hatred, no bigotry, no hypocrisy just “speaking the truth in love.”