The upside of Kagan’s confirmation
UPDATE, 7:35a: More good observations in Politico today. One excerpt:
Analysts see a slew of factors behind the increasingly narrow votes on Supreme Court nominees. The Senate as a whole has become more polarized, in part because of the rise of partisan media outlets and the Internet. The courts themselves have become a greater focus of contention, particularly on the part of conservative activists….
So Elena Kagan was confirmed to the US Supreme Court yesterday by a Senate vote of 63-37, and a part of me doesn’t even want to think about it, much less talk about it.
But Curt Levey of the Committee for Justice wrote an op ed published in The Daily Caller entitled, “Kagan battle yields conservative gains,” that encouraged me. Here are excerpts:
Although the reality of 59 Democratic senators meant that the confirmation of Elena Kagan was never really in doubt, believers in the rule of law have several things to cheer in the Kagan confirmation battle.
Republican senators mounted their strongest opposition in more than century, sending strong signals to the White House about future Supreme Court picks, while teeing up important issues for this fall’s Senate races.
The confirmation fight also saw the continuing repudiation of the Left’s living Constitution philosophy….
The prominence of the 2nd Amendment in consecutive SC battles makes it clear that the issue is here to stay in the judicial confirmation process. That fact forever changes the political dynamics of the judicial confirmation process, shifting the center of gravity by adding a large constituency with a long track record of effectiveness – including influence over moderate Democrats – to the coalition opposing the nomination of liberal judicial activists.
Last summer, the 31 votes against Justice Sotomayor’s confirmation surprised liberals and conservatives alike in light of more modest expectations and the memory of a mere 3 votes against the elevation of Ruth Bader Ginsburg to the SC. Opponents of judicial activism were able to build and even improve on that effort this summer, despite President Obama’s attempt to thwart opposition by nominating a stealth candidate.
Conservative groups and Senate Republicans – particularly GOP Leader Mitch McConnell and Judiciary Ranking Member Jeff Sessions – worked hard to get out the disturbing truth about Elena Kagan. As a result, the number of senators voting against confirmation reached nearly 40, including the 1st Democratic senator to vote against an Obama High Court nominee [Ben Nelson]. That’s the most votes against a Democratic SC nominee in more than a century.
The level of opposition was particularly impressive given the substantial obstacle posed by the delayed release of Clinton Library documents – Kagan’s only substantial paper trail – until shortly before her hearings began. By then, the mainstream media had already settled on a ‘nothing to see here’ storyline. If the WH deserves any points for political strategy, it’s for realizing that the value of selecting a stealth nominee accrues at the time of nomination, given the muted influence of any information about the nominee that comes out after the storyline is written.
Most importantly, the nearly 40 votes against Kagan sends a strong message to the WH that even if Republicans pick up just a few seats in November, a nominee like Kagan can be defeated in the next Congress. That means that Obama will likely be forced to nominate a genuine moderate for the next SC vacancy – someone like D.C. Circuit Judge Merrick Garland.
Of course, a big Democratic comeback in November could change all that. But the Kagan confirmation fight makes such a comeback less likely. On the hot-button issues of the day – gun rights, gay rights, partial birth abortion, ObamaCare and the like – polls show that Kagan is on the wrong side of the American people by large margins. That presents a valuable electoral opportunity for the GOP and a problem for red or purple state Democrats who voted for Kagan.
Those Democrats will have to explain to their constituents why they essentially voted for same-sex marriage, strict gun control, open borders, limitless abortion, racial preferences, and the like in confirming Kagan. Although it’s no surprise – given Kagan’s likely agenda on the Court – that public support for Kagan was consistently at a historical low for a SC nominee headed for confirmation, that unpopularity further complicates the explaining that Democratic senators will have to do back home.
The senators who opposed Kagan should be proud not only of their votes today, but also of the tough but courteous questions they asked her during her hearings and of the often powerful floor statements they made in opposing her. As a result, Americans got the teaching moment they deserved including a serious debate about constitutional interpretation and the proper role of judges. A good example was the exchange between Kagan and Sen. Coburn about original intent versus modern precedent, during which Kagan tellingly resisted the conclusion that a hypothetical federal law requiring Americans “to eat 3 vegetables and 3 fruits every day” would exceed Congress’s authority under the Commerce Clause.
There could have been an even better debate if Kagan and her WH handlers had not chosen to run away from the judicial philosophy of empathy and tipping the scales in favor of “the little guy” espoused by the President, Senate Democrats, and an earlier version of Elena Kagan. Instead, for the 2nd summer in a row, a SC nominee used her hearings to explicitly and completely disavow President Obama’s call for judges who rule from the heart in difficult cases:
Sen. Kyl: Do you agree with [President Obama] that law only takes you the first 25 miles of the marathon [in hard cases] and that the last mile has to be decided by what’s in the judge’s heart.
Kagan: Senator Kyl, I think it’s law all the way down.
On a closely related point, both Kagan and Sotomayor not only refused to stand and fight for the Left’s cherished theory of a living Constitution, but actively disavowed such an approach to judging during their hearings. That leaves little doubt that, while liberal judicial activism will live on surreptitiously in the courts, the living Constitution is now dead as a defensible judicial philosophy outside academe. That is perhaps the most important conservative victory in this summer’s confirmation process.
[Photo via the Associated Press]

Republican senators mounted their strongest opposition in more than century, sending strong signals to the White House about future Supreme Court picks, while teeing up important issues for this fall’s Senate races.
Blech. I apologize for sounding grumpy about this, but the first part of this sentence seems to be pure fantasy. Some (R) senators mounted an opposition, true (and God bless them)… but many more seemed simply to shake their heads in unctuous, impotent near-indifference, and content themselves with making vaguely negative noises to the press. The only possible upsides of this are twofold: (a) the damage wasn’t much worse (e.g. Kagan replacing a pro-life justice), and the added heat on pro-death members of congress. I really wonder how much more it will take for the 5 “open-minded” (R) senators who voted for Kagan to be ousted in their next election…
63 people thought that an inexperienced, unAmerican liar was fit to serve for 4 decades? I find it hard to see the upside. Judicial activism is at an all time high in this once-great nation. Our checks and balances have been disregarded and trampled on. The will of the American people has never been so thoroughly disrespected by elected officials in the 200 years since our goverment began. It will take a lifetime of hard work to undo the damage BO is perpetrating on this country. Even people who voted for him are saying he’s a one term president. My hands are clean, but it’s cold comfort this week.
So where’s the hit list and insults to the 5 republican senators who voted for Kagan, Jill? Didn’t help that we really needed Nelson and Casey to join a filibuster to stop this when so many in the pro life movement have spent the last few months calling them names, wildly exaggerating the abortion funding in Obamacare, and plotting to defeat the pro life democrats at all costs, did it?
In regards to the world of pro-life justices – I’ll give 10 cool points to anybody who can tell me the supreme court make up with R v Wade came down – how many justices were appointed from Republicans, and how many from Democrats?
I think she’s a fine candidate and will do a fine job in keeping balance in the court.
That is correct Sean. The so-called pro-life Dems were invisible again when it came to Kagan. After all the “pro-life” Dems have done, a person would have to be some kind of ostrich to think that there is such a thing as a Democrat who would stand up for the rights of the unborn.
Democratic senator Ben Nelson voted against Kagan. Five republicans voted for her.
I’m looking forward to seeing Jill’s list of all 5 republican “traitors” that must be defeated at all costs now – aren’t you ?
Kagan is a disaster, this is really bad. Another political radical on the court.
The 5 republcans should be kicked out, the bums.
Jasper – maybe we could trade kicking out radicals – Kagan and Thomas could both go and they could get two moderates.
In regards to the world of pro-life justices – I’ll give 10 cool points to anybody who can tell me the supreme court make up with R v Wade came down – how many justices were appointed from Republicans, and how many from Democrats?
EGV, that’s inane. Who’s suggesting that a candidate will be good, simply because someone with an (R) nominated (or confirmed) them? Some of the most disappointingly abortion-tolerant people on the court came from (R) nominations; does that mean, in your mind, that nominations from the radical left (who explicitly want to enshrine all abortion permanently in law) won’t be any worse? Have some sense!
I think she’s a fine candidate and will do a fine job in keeping balance in the court.
You really have given up all pretense of being pro-life, haven’t you?
She is a very well educated woman who understands womens rights and the scrifices it took to get them. She will do a great job.
She is a very well educated woman who understands women’s rights and the sacrifices it took to get them. She will do a great job.
Paladin –
What, 80 cases a year they will hear? Over the next ten years, how many abortion cases? Heck, the voters haven’t been willing to even send a case through the system with a vote (SD and Colorado). Sorry, just not going to be a single issue voter, especially on an issue that doesn’t have much movement.
On my other point – at the end of the day, the GOP’s number one talking point against Kagan never was even about abortion – it was lack of experience (something I doubt many would have had issues with if Harriet Miers came to a vote). The opposition was that she came from a Democratic President more than anything else.
You are right though about the appointments – there has been a lot of judges from the right that have become money for the left.
EGV wrote:
What, 80 cases a year they will hear? Over the next ten years, how many abortion cases?
Er… tell me again: exactly how many cases did it take to legalize abortion on demand?
In addition (and I’ve said this innumerable times): the fact that a woman who’s ideologically devoted to abortion is, in fact, relevant to how she’ll vote in such cases. Are you seriously trying to doubt that? And given the current 5-4, 4-5 split on the SCOTUS, are you really trying to suggest that it’s not important?
Heck, the voters haven’t been willing to even send a case through the system with a vote (SD and Colorado).
And you wonder why? If there were nine Antonin Scalias on the bench, don’t you think they might be a bit more willing to send such cases? I do. Why send a case to the SCOTUS–the heaviest “precedent-maker” in the U.S. case law system–if there’s at least an even chance of it being shot down, and the opposite of your goal cemented into case law, probably forever? If you’re so fascinated with SCOTUS decision history, check this one out: how frequently has the SCOTUS overturned one of its own past decisions and/or significantly overturned precedent set by a previous SCOTUS? If your answer is something in the ballpark of “pretty bloody few”, you’re right… and you’d also have the answer to your own question.
Sorry, just not going to be a single issue voter, especially on an issue that doesn’t have much movement.
How pragmatic of you. We’ve already had this discussion, EGV, but I’ll say again: your characterization of pro-life voters as “single issue voters” is so disingenuous as to be ridiculous. What, you seriously don’t think I have any other criteria, save for the abortion issue? That Candidate [x], who tortures puppies for fun, is just as qualified as Candidate [y] (who doesn’t), provided that both of them oppose abortion equally? Come on, now!
If, by “single-issue voter”, you mean that I (and those of like mind) care only for one thing when voting, then you’re spectacularly wrong. If, instead, you mean that we may actually consider some issues so important as to be disqualifying factors for those candidates who don’t meet them, then–well–nolo contendere. All sane people make use of some sort of set of priorities when they vote, and they all have “deal breakers” which, while not encompassing all of their voting discernment, do still eliminate candidates who fail to uphold them.
I assume that you, EGV, would refuse to vote for a candidate who took the view that you (personally) and your family should be shot on sight–and the shooting condoned in law. Would that make you a “single-issue” voter, in your own mind? I doubt (though correct me if I’m wrong) that you’d even consider voting for them, no matter how much you loved his other positions (on social security, immigration, and other such things), true? How closed-minded, how provincial of you, to place your petty hide above the needs of the poor and marginalized!
See my point?
On my other point – at the end of the day, the GOP’s number one talking point against Kagan never was even about abortion – it was lack of experience (something I doubt many would have had issues with if Harriet Miers came to a vote).
First, even if that were true (and I think you’re woefully mistaken–did you seriously not catch the high-traffic discussions about her manipulation of acceptance of partial-birth abortion by several health organizations?): who cares? The fact that the GOP does or doesn’t do something is irrelevant; if someone is abortion-tolerant (as you certainly seem to be), then it makes nary a difference if they have (D), (R), (Green), (Tory), or (Jedi) after their name.
The opposition was that she came from a Democratic President more than anything else.
Even if that were so: do you seriously think that “modern Democrat nomination” has nothing at all to do with “case law concerning abortion, ‘gay marriage’, euthanasia, and the like”? Be serious, here!
Grr-rrr-rr! This lack of reliable editing is getting rather irksome! The above should read:
…the fact that a woman who’s ideologically devoted to abortion has been appointed and confirmed to/in the Supreme Court of the United States is, in fact, relevant to how she’ll vote in such cases.
Does HTML code not work here anymore, BTW?
Hello good sir – excellent talking with you again.
What I’m saying is, I don’t see abortion ever getting overturned by the supreme court. The states won’t actually vote for a ban when given the chance (I think you give a populace too much credit – the number of people who can name more than a couple justices is absurdly low, and you say even ONE reason the ban didn’t get voted in is because of the perceived chances within the court? Come on man) The battle now legally is in the margins, and the battle on the number of abortion is not going to be won through bans – it is going to be impacted by healthcare, programs for pregnant women, and wage impacts. I’m encouraged by the abortion numbers and coverage in Mass and think that health care coverage for more is going to equal fewer abortions – and Kagan will be on the correct side of things when suits reach the court.
The single issue thing – your example is fun, sure – but I’m not going to say a single issue is going to disqualify something if I think the probability of that thing ever coming to the court is slim to none. I mean, Kagan could say if she ever was presented with a case to shutdown the NFL, I’d be concerned – but that sort of case isn’t going to come about. Now, abortion cases WILL come to the courts, but doubtful it would be concerning a ban – more likely something affecting numbers that would be impacted less by more access to health care.
Plus, what is the alternative? Do you think Obama is going to bring in another Clarence Thomas? You should be quite pleased – he probably picked one of the more moderate choices out there.
Sure – the abortion buzz was high on pro-life boards – but did you see much outside of that (anything in the MSM?) – Scottie Brown was the quote I saw most – and it was all about experience.
No idea on the edits – my issues are with knowing if others have posted – am I missing the email option?
EGV wrote:
Hello good sir – excellent talking with you again.
(*wry smile*) I’ll err on the side of assuming that you’re not being sarcastic…
What I’m saying is, I don’t see abortion ever getting overturned by the supreme court.
That might or might not be true. But, as they say in sports: “If you try, you might not win; if you don’t try, you certainly won’t.” Why would you want to surrender the fight, at this point?
And there are far more factors at play than just Roe v. Wade, Doe v. Bulton, etc.; if (God willing, though the probability is low at the moment) some landmark pro-life effort succeeds (such as personhood amendments of given states, or a personhood amendment to the U.S. Constitution), it’s greatly to our benefit NOT to have activist liberal judges who will “interpret, emanate and penumbrate” it out of existence, yes? Even if the SCOTUS does nothing more than <b>keep its collective mouth shut</b> when the other branches of government secure the right to life from conception until natural death, that’d be a GOOD thing! That simply won’t happen with a SCOTUS full of Ginsburgs or Kagans, for instance.
The states won’t actually vote for a ban when given the chance (I think you give a populace too much credit – the number of people who can name more than a couple justices is absurdly low, and you say even ONE reason the ban didn’t get voted in is because of the perceived chances within the court? Come on man)
Er… right back at you, sir! Virtually everyone knows the phrase “Roe v. Wade”, and virtually everyone knows that the SCOTUS (of whomever it might be composed, at any moment) is the source of that “unlimited right to abortion”. That, coupled with the MSM’s relentless cheerleading of abortion (and its breathless anxiety about any pro-life judge being appointed to the SCOTUS), and I think it’s hardly an insignificant factor. Was it the only one? Of course not… and I never said it was. One thing at a time, after all…
But as to the main point: unless you’re willing to write off the SCOTUS as insignificant (which is a mind-boggling position to take, given the existence of Roe v. Wade itself–which was hardly insignificant), or unless you (mistakenly) think that pro-lifers can only concentrate on one political thing at a time (what, I can’t oppose Kagan and vote against my current pro-death senator at the same time? How limited do you think I am?), then I can’t follow yoru reasoning at all.
The battle now legally is in the margins, and the battle on the number of abortion is not going to be won through bans –
And, with all due respect, I say that your comment is utter bunkum. It’s not going to be won by bans ALONE, certainly… but again, pro-lifers are more able to multi-task than you seem to think. We’re quite capable of banning (and enforcing the ban on) abortion AND maintaining and supporting pregnancy care centers (you know–the places which abortion-tolerant people want to wipe off the map?), as well.
it is going to be impacted by healthcare,
Truer words were never spoken (if Obamacare goes through in its current form, that is); it will get disastrously worse. There’s nothing to encourage a behaviour like government subsidies… or do you seriously not know that Obama, Pelosi, Sebelius, et al., are TRYING TO EXPAND abortion “services”, especially through the “health care system”?
programs for pregnant women, and wage impacts.
Ah. Like charities (such as are maintained by pro-life Christians) and pregnancy care centers? Or do you insist on a federally-run clinic, for some reason?
I’m encouraged by the abortion numbers and coverage in Mass and think that health care coverage for more is going to equal fewer abortions
And I say that this idea is delusional, on more levels than I can easily count. The Massachusetts health care system is bankrupt, and it’s poised to come apart at the seams in the very near future; if the U.S. system collapses in like manner (as it almost certainly will), I really don’t think that’ll have the utopian effect that you seem to suggest.
and Kagan will be on the correct side of things when suits reach the court.
How so? By forbidding all restrictions on abortion? The woman fought to preserve partial-birth abortion, man! Do you seriously think she’ll do anything other than open the floodgates of access and funding to abortion? Or perhaps you’re counting on the Machiavellian (though mathematically sound) idea that, as the general population is wiped out, there’ll be fewer abortions? That’s probably true… but a nuclear war would reduce abortions, as well, if you want to play things THAT way!
The single issue thing – your example is fun, sure – but I’m not going to say a single issue is going to disqualify something if I think the probability of that thing ever coming to the court is slim to none.
I really scratch my head, when I hear you say that. Do you have a crystal ball, or something? What of the growing number of states who are attempting to push through “personhood amendments”? Don’t you think those will be challenged, if they succeed? I assure you that the supporters of those movements are growing, and they’re going nowhere, soon (save for the coming of the Apocaypse… but, well, you can’t legally plan for everything!). But seriously: you do remember that I was refuting your claim that “single-issue voting” was somehow “bad”? Nothing you say here denies that, I think; a pro-slavery candidate deserves to be denied our vote, no matter what other “good positions” he/she might have, yes?
I mean, Kagan could say if she ever was presented with a case to shutdown the NFL, I’d be concerned – but that sort of case isn’t going to come about.
:) Ironic… since I couldn’t care less if she did! But I digress…
Plus, what is the alternative? Do you think Obama is going to bring in another Clarence Thomas?
No. That’s why, given his utter zeal for abortion, it’s a moral imperative to block every last like-minded appointee of his, and politics be d***ed.
You should be quite pleased – he probably picked one of the more moderate choices out there.
(??) I think I’ll just say, “Wow, did you miss the mark on that one!”, and let it go…
Sure – the abortion buzz was high on pro-life boards – but did you see much outside of that (anything in the MSM?)
Are you SURE you’re not deliberately pulling my leg, here? The *MSM*? Surely you’re not relying on (or assuming that I would rely on) the MSM for an accurate barometer of “the will and thought of America”? I’m waiting for Allen Funt to jump out of the bushes, here…
Scottie Brown was the quote I saw most – and it was all about experience.
Scott Brown was hated by the MSM because he was a republican who dared to take the “throne” of Ted Kennedy. Aside from that (and from the grudging fact that Brown is at least somewhat better than Kennedy was), I have little to say in praise of Scott Brown.
Blah. The “editing” function is kind enough to place the bold word “EDITING” on the text to be “edited”, but it can’t be edited! My apologies for the lack of italics in EGV’s quotes…
Ex-Gop Voter
I think the effects of RoevWade will be nullified when the Personhood Amendment is passed in every state. And I also believe fighting for something is much more effective than fighting against somthing. A fact that the those who are at the “heart” of the abortion camp understand fully well. That’s why anything that is vile or at it’s “heart” :( hates humanity is always introduced as a solution to a problem. As something that rescues which was the premise of RoevWade. Alas when people genuinely wake up and realize that people “little people” are being killed it’s only a matter of time before RoevWade is replaced with life. And although you write like you are pro-death I just have trouble believing that if you were to see abortion in it’s true light that you would still be of this opinion. Let me rephrase that if you were to see abortion in it’s true darkness I don’t think you would remain of the same opinion.
Alas,
darkness,