Jivin J’s Life Links 9-9-10
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- A NC man named Justin Moose has been arrested for allegedly providing information on bomb making to a person he believed would bomb an abortion clinic:
A criminal complaint alleges that Moose used the social networking site Facebook as a platform to advocate violence against women’s healthcare clinics, specifically where abortions were performed and employees at such clinics.
The complaint alleges that last week, Moose spoke and met with a confidential source and provided detail and instruction about various explosives or incendiary methods for the purpose of enabling the source to destroy a NC abortion clinic.
- 7 women convicted of “homicide against a relative” in Mexico were released after the state of Guanjuato enacted legal reforms. The women claim they had miscarriages but prosecutors “maintained to the end that the women’s trials were fair, that their babies were born alive but died because of mistreatment or lack of care.”
- Chen Guangcheng has been released in China but his village has apparently been put on lockdown:
Controversy has returned to the village of Dongshigu, and with it, a security crackdown. The source of both: the release of Chen Guangcheng, a blind, self-taught lawyer who drew worldwide attention to his rural neighbors’ stories of forced sterilizations and late-term abortions at the hands of local authorities…..
Villagers said they are alternately thankful for Chen’s work and fearful of being associated with him. Reporters from the Associated Press, who tried to enter the village on Thursday, said men in plainclothes came running, scuffled with the reporters and pursued them at high speed as they left the area. Local authorities did not return calls.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
I’m glad that they caught this guy!
It’s sad to hear about. It hurts all of us because it gives trolls more fodder. I have also been trying to find out about Scott Roeder’s full story. When it was in the news last year, I was sure I heard reporters say that he also shot someone else the same day as Tiller. I’ve searched it on the web but can’t find any reference to it. If someone else does, please post here.
I’m sure 99.9% of pro-life people are totally against the use of any kind of violence but a couple nuts per decade is enough for the abortion crowd to use against us. Well, that is easy for them since they don’t consider babies to be people, they don’t count the 50 plus million dead.
Personally, as an opinion, from my point of view, I don’t count people like that as anti-choice activists. I think they would find an excuse to perpetrate such acts in the name of whatever cause they can justify. Perhaps he could share a cell with the reprobate who attempted to strangle his ‘girl friend’ and apparently tried to force her to abort. That would be interesting.
“I don’t count people like that as anti-choice activists. I think they would find an excuse to perpetrate such acts in the name of whatever cause they can justify.”
Cranium, for once I think you are right!
In the case of Scott Roeder, from what I’ve read about him, he was a violent, sick, disturbed man, who needed something to latch onto where he could express his anger. He developed a pro-life conviction because it fed his anger. On the other hand, those who come to the pro-life position from deep conviction and clear understanding will usually show love and peace in their lives (someone like Fr. Pavone comes to mind).
Are there donkeys flying outside…. because I’m with Cranium on this one too… I’d even bring the popcorn if they’d put those two nuts in the same cell. That would be worth seeing.
Wow, first time I think I have ever agreed with you Cranium. I agree with Elisabeth there is definitely a reason to think donkeys fly. True prolifers do not want violence in any form perpetrated on any human person or even an animal, born or unborn. My family knows I don’t want any so-called ”entertainment” which glorifies violence, gore, inflicting pain and suffering on anything or anyone in our house. (Yes, we do watch football at our house but you know what I mean). That is why whether it is innocent puppies or innocent babies they all deserve to be protected, I would never tolerate the mistreatment, bullying, torture or killing of anyone or anything.
Life is so precious it deserves to be protected and cherished.
If you have ever seen a newborn baby take it’s first breath, if you have ever seen a newborn or premie struggling to breathe in severe fetal distress, if you have ever seen the tortured anguish of a mother and father who lost their baby to miscarriage, stillbirth, SIDS or prematurity you would never be the same. If you are unmoved and unchanged by the experience of seeing anyone adult, infant, child, newborn or preborn fighting to live (yes I have seen babies swimming in their mommy’s womb on ultrasound so do NOT tell me they do NOT fight to live, I know better) you are a cold-hearted Son of a Gun. LIFE, what a beautiful choice, no amount of money or lack of money makes an child’s life, born or unborn without value or disposable. That is why we prolifers volunteer, give our time, our money, donate supplies, clothes, equipment, counsel, provide medical care, housing if possible (I have friends who have taken in single moms and my parents helped many single moms obtain housing if needed) and we work so hard to help women, men, families, teens, babies and children to protect the sanctity of life. We are here for life. “…I have set before you life or death, blessings or curses. Choose life, that you and your seed may live.” Deut. 30:19
Maybe I’m just a rational realist :-)
I detest football. I see nothing wrong with violence in films if it is in context.
‘I would never tolerate the mistreatment, bullying, torture or killing of anyone or anything’ – so tell me, are you vegan? Anti death penalty?
I have watched both a baby’s first breath and stillbirth. And I still support choice.
A good part of the community work I have done over my life has been in support of young single mums. And I still support choice.
Some of it has been assisting with children who’s parents could have aborted them because of the perilous diagnoses but didn’t. And I still support choice.
Don’t bother quoting scripture, it means nothing to me. May the world smile upon you.
Hey Nikko, stop the one man party.
This guy is no better than an abortionist.
Both are murderers.
The pro-death trifecta; Blowing up buildings, being anti-choice and being pro-abort.
Gravatar Rocks. My baby JP minutes after birth. Cranium. Is it ok to deliver a baby to the shoulder and slide a scissors up the spine into the woman’s uterus and stab the baby in the head? And if said baby does not cooperate and comes out alive is it ok to finish the termination so as not to cause any additional burden on the mother? In your world, when does the transformation from non-person to person occur? Is it all just a matter of location that makes the a human same being lose his personhood status? Pray tell.
Nick G,
Is it ok to deliver a baby to the shoulders and slide a scissors up the spine into the woman’s uterus and stab the baby in the head? And if said baby does not cooperate and comes out alive is it ok to finish the termination so as not to cause any additional burden on the mother? In your world, when does the transformation from non-person to person occur? Is it all just a matter of location that makes a human being suddenly transform into a person at birth? Pray tell.
Wow! I think Cran you are indeed a cold-hearted Son of a Gun. if you could hold both a living, breathing baby and also a stillborn and still feel it is ”a woman’s right to choose whether to dialate her cervix, mutilate her baby with a curette and vacuum her baby out with suction”. No need for you to answer but for us prolifers we ponder, did you cry and grieve when you held the stillborn baby? If you did, why did you cry and grieve? If you cried and grieved was it because the stillborn was a “wanted” or “chosen” baby? If you did not cry or grieve why not? Were you happy to see the live baby take it’s first breaths? Why? Was it because the living baby was a “wanted” or “chosen” baby? Sounds schizo to me, my opinion.
LOL. I will NOT hesitate to quote sccriptures here to you or anyone else (Jill many times gives scriptures as Quotes of the Day), but since you are a pro-abort who trolls this pro-life website written by a Christian prolife activist blogger, feel free to ignore them or not to visit here. You seem to pride yourself as an enemy and advesary of the pro-life movement, but you bother to visit this Christian woman’s prolife website.
Do you ask whether I am a vegan and against the death penalty because that should disqualify me from being against killing innocent babies born or unborn and against cruelty to any of God’s creatures? Don’t worry, I won’t bother.
“Thinking themselves wise they have become fools.”
Prolifer L, you stated ‘True prolifers do not want violence in any form perpetrated on any human person or even an animal, born or unborn.’ and ‘I would never tolerate the mistreatment, bullying, torture or killing of anyone or anything.’ – so if you eat meat or wear leather products or use other products derived in part from animals, what does that say about you? Or is it just the usual display of utter inconsistency demonstrated by many of ‘faith’ and the anti-choice activists?
I visit anti-choice sites to educate people with the truth. Not to propagandize based on lies. Uninformed or undecided people may visit sites like this and they need to be accurately informed.
Cranium,
You could start by answering my questions I posed to you above, unless you are afraid of where the truth will lead you.
I predict: ignoring questions combined with deflections of an off-topic and cliche manner.
A pro-lifer who eats chicken is a person who knows exactly where he stands. A pro-choice vegan is the absolute height of hypocrisy.
truthseeker, YES to your questions. It is OK to do what is necessary. And yes, ‘location’ is one way of putting it.
ninek, you don’t appear to get it. Prolifer L said ‘True prolifers do not want violence in any form perpetrated on any human person or even an animal, born or unborn.’ and ‘I would never tolerate the mistreatment, bullying, torture or killing of anyone or anything.’
So if Prolifer L is a meat eater, then Prolifer L’s deeds do not match the words.