Video: The “goodness” of abortion
UPDATE, 7:11a: Well, that was quick, a new world record for YouTube in pro-life video censorship – it’s already down. Alerting CBR and will post the new link when I get it.
5:54a: Oh my goodness, pardon the pun. Just up, the video featured below won’t last long on YouTube. WARNING, the video is graphic, but it is so terribly powerful. It juxtaposes a soothing video produced by the Northland Family Planning Centers, a late-term abortion chain of 3 mills in Michigan, with the reality of the very abortions they commit. The pro-life video is produced by Gregg Cunningham and The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform. Per its description:
This sad, pathetic piece of propaganda is designed to convince women – and no doubt themselves – that abortion is a “good” and even “sacred” (their word!) act.
“Good” grief! The lady doth protest too much, methinks!
Well, if abortifiers and the women they abort are involved in such a wonderful procedure, there can’t be anything wrong with showing the procedure, can there? In fact, it should make its goodness all the more evident. A picture, after all, is worth a thousand words.
So c’mon all you good people – celebrate with us the glorious goodness that is abortion. I mean it really is good. Really.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Great job CBR!
Video has been removed. Apparently it was too shocking.
CBR probably has it on their web site. Do you have a link, Jill?
If you go to their web site the video is still there to watch.
Oh wow, that was quick. Let me check. Patti, I don’t see the video. Are you talking about the abortion clinic video or pro-life video?
Oh, I cannot stand that Northland Family Planning Video!
‘Deciding to have an abortion is a normal experience’.
‘When a woman decides to have an abortion she is making a choice that is thoughtful, considered and essentially coming from a place of goodness’
But actually sounds like they are trying to convince themselves that what they are doing is GOOD. The woman says the word ‘good’ or ‘goodness’ 18 times in 4.37 mins :-)
Yes, maybe repetition will help a bit but we all know, even abortion staff, that abortion is taking a life.
Don’t you love the irony? The video can’t be shown due to “shocking & disgusting content”, but abortions that produce the images shown in the video are neither shocking nor disgusting? Instead, abortion is a right, choice, empowering, liberating, & a relief…at the very least, they are a mere medical procedure that removes some unwanted tissue. Also, weren’t pro-lifers suppose to keep their “morality” to themselves? We are not suppose to say abortion is bad & we are NOT suppose to invoke anything that even hints at *GASP* religion or make a theological argument. Yet, pro-aborts can spout the “goodness” (MORAL JUDGEMENT/subjective philosophical opinion) of abortion & call it sacred (RELIGIOUS terminology/subjective theological opinion).
PS…How come abortion is sacred, but human life isn’t???
I am going to complain to youtube not that it does any good.
Lifer, your point is well put!
Yet, pro-aborts can spout the “goodness” (MORAL JUDGEMENT/subjective philosophical opinion) of abortion & call it sacred (RELIGIOUS terminology/subjective theological opinion).
PS…How come abortion is sacred, but human life isn’t???
Because everyone, whether they believe it or not, worships something. Whatever they worship will be “sacred” to them.
“Because everyone, whether they believe it or not, worships something. Whatever they worship will be “sacred” to them. ”
That’s not true at all and I imagine it would be rather offensive to non-religious people. Worshiping is, by its definition, an act of religious supplication. Your statement is born from the ignorance that only a person who is incapable of looking at things from a different perspective would say. You worship, therefore you can’t conceive of anyone else not worshiping. That’s no way to look at the world.
Totally agree, Kel!
We were made to worship Joan. If not God it will be something else.
Always someone taking offense or offending isn’t there??!!
It’s called respect, Carla. It’s a two-way street. I work with many atheist, agnostic and secular people, and because I expect them to respect my beliefs, I respect theirs in turn. One of the ways in which I respect them is by not casting the kinds of aspersions on nonbelievers that Kel did in her post. When I see someone say something like “everybody worships something”, it causes me to think that the speaker has spent little time around those with different beliefs. Even many religions are not theistic and adherents would take offense at the suggestion that they “worship” something. Religious or spiritual devotion does not always manifest itself as “worship”.
You are giving me your definition of respect, Joan?
Good one.
My uncle worshiped alcohol. That is the plain truth.
Worshiped? Are you sure he didn’t just abuse it?
Golly gee whiz Joan. He drank all day from sunup to sundown and died a chronic alcoholic. It consumed his every thought, it was all he longed to do and he LIVED for his next drink.
His life and legacy was alcohol.
But you go on and make your own assumptions mmmmmkay?
Sounds like alcohol abuse to me. But apparently you distinguish between simple alcohol abuse and “alcohol worship”.
Apparently.
Have a good day, Joan.
I’d rather be alive and have aspersions cast at me all day than be torn limb from limb and sucked into a glass bottle. But hey, I have no compassion.
Worship need not be of a deity AKA God/god. Worship can be of anything we set as an idol…that we bestow upon “supreme value” (not necessarily the idols made of wood or stone viewed as a deity, but anything that takes a place of prominence in our lives…money, career, etc…) & worship of self. When one worships God, it is showing submission to His place in ones life…first place. If anything else takes the place of God, then that person or thing is relegated to god-like status. If someone does not believe in God, then s/he is putting his or her self in God’s place because that would, by definition, make that person all-knowing…in that they know there is no God. The power of “self”…the godhood of self. They look only to themselves for answers & as the final authority. They submit wholly to their own position & standard. They believe they are “right” & that they are justified in their thoughts/words/deeds & that they are “good”. Even their position on God (or the lack-there-of) is “right”…THEY are right. Others, while well meaning or deluded, are “wrong”.
The definition of worship includes “devotion”, which is synonomous w/ affection, adoration, & attachment…even passion. I think many would agree who have delt w/ those who are abusers of anything (alcohol, drugs, work, sex, tv, porn, food) , they have an unhealthy attachment, passion, etc…for that particular object/activity. In their own way, they are putting it first in their life, thereby “worshipping” it while also abusing it. They are literally loving it unto death…
Joan, you seem to take worship as a strictly concrete term to mean only the act of devotion to God (or whatever twig or rock someone decides to name and place on the same level in their minds as God).
Actually “Worship” is an act that can revolve around anything, including alcohol, abortion, drugs, boy/girlfriends, even sports and games. When your life revolves around something, every waking moment is spent thinking about it and considering it, making time for it, putting it first, and protecting it against all threat or attack you are essentially worshiping it. It has become your “god”.
For alcoholics, their god is alcohol.
For addicts their god is the drug
For gamers their god is the game
For gangbangers their god is the gang
for the Atheist their god is the absence of god
For the satanist, their god is themselves
For the workaholic their job is their god
etc.
I only gave my life to Jesus 3 1/2 yrs ago, before that the people I surrounded myself with were also “many atheist, agnostic and secular people”. And even among us, we understood the concept of “work” or drugs or movie stars or alcohol being “like a god” when we looked at how we formed our lives around them, thought constantly about them, depending on getting our “fix” of them, sacrificed friends and family in order to make time for them, defended and made excuses for them, etc. Even a secularist and atheist understands what “worship” means and that it doesn’t necessarily have to be centered around a deity.
Worship is not concrete. It takes many forms. The first two commandments warn us of our predisposition to worship (we ARE made to worship, and if not Him we will find something else) and to be careful only to worship God the Father. We must form our lives around Him, make time for Him, sacrifice for Him, put Him first, etc. No worries. :)
What Worshipper and Sioko said are correct, Joan. Worship need not be primarily a religious thing.
What Carla said about her uncle was not just abusing alochol, but making it the most important part of his life. Centering his whole life around it. That’s a form of worship.
Joan, Am I correct in my remembering you saying you’re a Catholic? As a Catholic I can’t believe you would never have heard at least ONE priest talk about obsessing over something that’s not God which turns it into an idol. You’d know this is a form of worship. It’s something I’ve heard more than one priest over the course of my life talk about in their homilies. They talk about making Christ the center of your life rather than something (or someone). That everything you do stem out of Him and His word.
I’ve heard Protestants talk about the same thing, so it’s not just limited to Catholics talking about it.
Joan, you can worship a sports team. I know people who do. They breathe that team, own all the gear, scream their lungs out at every game, argue with relatives to the point of family disharmony over it, and refuse to have friends who are fans of an opposing team.
You can also worship yourself. You buy things for you, you look out for #1 at all costs, you won’t go out of your way to help others, you believe you are the thing of greatest importance in your life. It’s all about you. It’s about the self. Self-worship, or narcissism, is so prevalent now, that the APA has talked about removing (or perhaps has already removed) Narcissistic Personality Disorder as a disorder.
You are the only one here who seems to believe that “worship” is strictly a religious term only associated with a deity.
In their own way, they are putting it first in their life, thereby “worshipping” it while also abusing it. They are literally loving it unto death…
So true.
Why do we have shows called “American Idol?” Why did people cry, scream and faint at Elvis and Sinatra concerts?
Kel wrote:
Why do we have shows called “American Idol?”
:) My wife asks that very question, repeatedly. Excellent point… though not nearly enough people would take that seriously enough to examine the deep issues it brings up.
For what it’s worth (pun partially intended): “worship” originally meant a sort of contraction of “worth-ship”. In a way similar to “censorship” being the extent to which something is censored, and “sportsmanship” being the extent to which someone is sportsmanlike, “worth-ship” (i.e. “worship”) was the extent to which something was considered “worthy”. In Britain (at least until very recently), that was a part of the wedding ceremony: the bride and groom would say, in addition to other things, to each other:
“With my body, I thee worship!”
It certainly wasn’t a declaration of treating one’s wife or husband as a goddess or god to be “worshipped”, in the more colloquial sense of the word (which is really called “adoration”–ironic, since THAT word has now been watered down to the point of saying that kittens, babies, etc., are “adorable”–when technically, only God is “adorable” in the old sense of the word).
Paladin,
Love love love whenever people bring origins of words into context! Good to see you! :)
Joan, OF COURSE you can worship something other than a God! What is an idol if not exactly that?! Your willful ignorance will be your undoing.
BTW, has the video been uploaded anywhere else? Would love to see this and share this.
;) Blame my wife; she took my latent/nascent love for etymology, and amplified it a hundredfold! (One of the standard things said in her house as she was growing up was, “go look it up in the dictionary!”)
Great to see you, too! (I’ll try not to be such an absentee, in the future! This past month was pretty intense, but I think things are settling down a bit…)
Wow. This video is sick. Bandwagon propaganda, anyone? Maybe if we say we’re good enough times, even WE’LL start to believe it! 9_9
I find it ironic that their initials are “NFP” which in my mind has always stood for “Natural Family Planning”. Didn’t I recently hear that the majority (some 65%) of women having abortions are coaxed, forced or threatened to have one? Gerard, and stats on that?
An excellent resource, shel
http://www.theunchoice.com/intro.htm
Under True Riches Matthew 6:22-24:
“The eye is the body’s lamp. If your eyes are good, your body will be filled with light; if your eyes are bad, your body will be in darkness. And if your light is darkness, how deep will the darkness be! No man can serve two masters. He will either hate one and love the other or be attentive to one and despise the other. you cannot give yourself to God and money.”
Northland Family Planning has a sign that serves as a daily reminder that they believe in the goodness of their work. Well that sounds a bit like indoctrination of their employees to me.
Women, don’t believe anyone who says it takes courage to abort. The most courageous and noble act is giving birth to your child.
Paladin, in the Bollywood movies I enjoy, I love the music, but the lyrics are ridiculous. They often say to the one they love that they worship them, and that they are their god.
What about people who just don’t have any one thing that consumes their every waking thought? That seems like…most people I know. If you were to insist that everybody worships SOMETHING, I’d have to say I worship…balance. I tend to think that just about anything taken to excess can be negative. And balance extends to “not obsessing over finding the perfect balance.” The idea that everybody who isn’t consumed with worship for a god is roaming the streets, craving alcohol or drugs or their next shopping fix or sex or whatever, is strange to me.
We all worship something. Doesn’t necessarily have to be sex, drugs or rock and roll.
Even good things can become idols.
Repeating the assertion doesn’t really answer my question. :/
Alexandra, who here would you say knows you well enough to point out your personal foibles?
The idea that everybody who isn’t consumed with worship for a god is roaming the streets, craving alcohol or drugs or their next shopping fix or sex or whatever, is strange to me.
How about people consumed by their careers? How about people consumed with the idea of acquiring more material possessions? How about people who place those things above God/family, etc.? You think these things can’t be worshiped? How about people who are obsessed with the idea of having the perfect family to the point that they abort twin boys to do it? You think maybe those people are consumed just a tad with having their precious little girl idol – ‘scuse me – baby?
People don’t have to roam the streets half-dead with idol worship. Often, we find people in hot pursuit of (and obtaining) the things which they idolize most.