Breaking: Celebrate! Kansas down to one abortion clinic, at least today
Read backstory here.
From Time this morning:
Kansas will now just have one clinic in the state allowed to provide abortions, as the state signaled Thursday that Kansas’ only other two providers are out of business due to tough, new licensing requirements….
“This is radical, extreme government intrusion into private health care,” Peter Brownlie, president of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri, said Thursday as his clinic filed suit in U.S. District Court to have the new regulations thrown out….
Within an hour of his announcement, the Kansas Department of Health and Environment issued a sparsely worded statement that it had approved one license of the three it had reviewed, without naming names. Despite the state’s secrecy, it was clear Planned Parenthood had survived because the other two providers, a clinic named Aid for Women in Kansas City, KS, and a father-daughter private practice in nearby Overland Park, had already acknowledged their offices didn’t meet new codes.
Those two providers, likewise, have gone to federal court seeking an injunction against the “burdensome and costly requirements that are not medically necessary or appropriate.” U.S. District Judge Carlos Murguia has set a 3 p.m. hearing for Friday.
You have to read this amazing quote, also from the Time article. Aborting babies is the surgical equivalent of pulling teeth? And “drunk” post-abortive moms need no recovery time…
[Jeff] Pederson, of the Aid for Women… not[ed] one of the new codes mandates a two-hour recovery period. He said when he accompanied his father to get his teeth pulled, his dad was sedated, yet they left 10 minutes after the procedure was complete. “The women don’t want to stay here two hours, and they don’t need to. They have a caregiver with them. They’re drunk, but they’re walking.”
Safe, legal, and rare? Who’s kidding who?
[Photo via Time]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
do you think he meant “drugged” instead of “drunk”??
I tried to post a comment on the Time article, but I’m having technical difficulties. Want to say: “This article completely omits the fact that the new regulations were drawn from National Abortion Federation standards. Last I checked, NAF isn’t trying to overturn Roe v. Wade! Biased much?”
The paragraph below comes from a yahoo news article about Kansas.
Dr. Herbert Hodes, a ob-gyn, has a patient who is 18 1/2 weeks pregnant and has ruptured membranes. The pregnancy, he says, will not survive, and if the woman continues it, she will get an infection. He saw her on Thursday, but because of Kansas’s 24-hour waiting period, he wasn’t able to perform an . And on Friday, absent a last-minute injunction, he will lose his abortion license. There are other doctors he can send his patient to, but they are several hundred miles away.
This seems to be the pro-aborts latest strategy – if a baby is allowed to miscarry naturally, the mother will get an infection.
Can Dr. Nadal, Jill, or someone else with a medical background help us pro-lifers respond to this? The certainty of “she will get an infection” is troublesome to me.
I apologize if this is hijacking the thread, I’ve just noticed this argument a lot lately with the restrictions on abortion. Thank you.
Gerard Nedal has an academic doctorate, not a medical degree
MaryBeth, I saw that Yahoo fluff piece. Hodes would be the same abortionist who boasted to the Associated Press that he did abortions in under two minutes. What a slimeball. It’s shameful that people under the “feminist” banner defend him and “doctors” like him.
Hi MaryBeth,
The woman could wait to expel the fetus naturally while supervised closely for signs of infection. I have seen this done, especially when patients did not want to have surgery or were hoping there was a chance of fetal survival. At the first sign of infection, surgery was performed. I would also think the woman could be induced, which I have also seen done. The L&D nurses on this blog could probably give you better info on this. My area is surgery.
Whatever, the woman could get the care she needs from any OB/GYN and at any hospital that provides maternity care services and surgery.
Look for more of these sob sister ploys. BTW, last I heard “high risk” pregnant women haven’t been dying in droves since Tiller was killed. You know, those women who’s only “hope” was Tiller.
Thank you Kelsey and Mary…
I was wondering why among my pro-life friends, several women have sadly found out that their babies were not going to make it, yet they patiently waited for nature to take its course.
You’d think pro-life women would be dropping like flies since not aborting babies automatically results in an infection – according to pro-aborts.
Why did my comment get deleted?
Also, Mary, the “surgery” that patients are waiting for is an abortion. Quit saying that it’s ok for some women and not for others.
Jane,
Try to get your facts straight. What I am describing is aborting a dead baby that the body is not naturally expelling for some reason or is taking too long to do. There may also a degree of risk here for the woman if she does not naturally expel the baby, like infection, bleeding, etc.
This is a far cry from a situation where a pregnancy is deliberately aborted for no other reason than being inconvenient.
The point is Jane that women can get the help they need for obstetrical complications and emergencies without the “help” of abortionists.
Mary you said that they were hoping for a chance of fetal survival which implies that the fetus is still alive when this is happening.
Women need abortions for a whole host of reasons, not just “convenience” and ob-gyns can perform abortions too, not just “abortionists” which is a slang propaganda term- get your facts straight
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No Jane,
I am referring to women who were desperate to be pregnant and wanted to hold out any and all hope for fetal survival, despite medical evidence to the contrary. Very heartbreaking situations. I saw one such woman hold out until her rising temperature, which her doctor instructed her to monitor carefully, indicated an infection was setting in and immediate surgery was indicated.
By convenience I mean there is no medical indication, which is the majority of the time.
What’s your problem with the term abortionist? That’s what they do, right? Perform abortions. Also, the term abortionist is hardly new and has been around longer than I’ve been born, which is a long time, and was always used to designate someone who did abortions. Get your facts straight.
A doctor who takes care of a patients heart is a “cardiologist.” No one says “heart care provider” or “heart doctor.” So why shouldn’t we call someone who does abortions an abortionist? If there’s nothing wrong with having one, why not use the term?
It is perfectly reasonable that a person who has been sedated and had an operation should wait in the doctor’s office for a period of time to ensure there are no life-threatening side effects.
Allergists do similar all the time; they regularly require patients who are receiving desensitization shots for anaphylactic allergies to wait 30 minutes to ensure they don’t have a reaction to the toxins injected into them. When I did have a reaction to a shot, I was thankful I was in the doctor’s office rather than out on the road driving back to work.
It doesn’t seem too much to ask that a person at risk of bleeding to death remain in the doctor’s office long enough to reasonably ensure risk has passed.
If I have a medically-necessary need for an abortion, my doctor will take care of me at my local hospital.
I do not need a walk-in clinic.
Kansas clinics are still open – judge blocked the rules from going into place.
the rules are for health and safety of the patients. This is all about the almighty $ for these places, NOT about protecting women’s health.
“the rules are for health and safety of the patients. This is all about the almighty $ for these places, NOT about protecting women’s health.”
agreed
First, how can one call it private when they receive public funds. Second, how can one call killing people healthcare?
Closing abortion facilities will never stop women from seeking and obtaining abortions.
Then why do you care if the mills are closed or not? When abortion becomes illegal, women will still seek and obtain abortions so why would you care if abortion becomes illegal?
Why would you come here and waste your time commenting Robert? After all, none of this matters anyway, women who want abortions will always find ways to get one.
“And as I’ve pointed out many times, before here despite your false claims, you could not care less about the unborn once they are out of the womb. ”
True. There has never been a single pro-lifer in the history of the universe who has ever lifted a finger to help anyone in need after they were born. What follows concerning the morality of abortion? How does the pro-lifer’s hatred of the born show that abortion is a moral choice?
Bobby,
Pro-life people never help children once they were born.
I have personally witnessed parishes and other communities rallying around a young mom who decided not to have an abortion. I know mothers who have volunteered time and homes for single, young, pregnant women to care for them and the newborn child. I have seen pregnant women turn away from the clinic and receive proper medical treatment at no cost, birthing at no cost, apartment at no cost, and continued health care for the child at no cost.
Many areas have volunteers providing homes for women in “crisis pregnancy”, where the woman’s economic situation is threatened if she does not abort. Further, some of these homes also provide living space for the new Mom and her baby for some months after delivery.
In what way are we pro-lifers NOT supposed to be caring for the Mom and baby after delivery?
TeaPot562
HI Fr. Eric.
I was being sarcastic, attempting to point out teh fact that Robert’s “argument” is simply an ad homium and a non sequitar. God love you.
Right. Sometimes it’s best just to concede the absurdity to get it off the table. “OK, now that we acknowledge that Republicans are daily putting puppies in blenders set to puree, let’s go back to the original question, please.” ;-)