Planned Parenthood holds fundraiser at gay nightclub
LOL, isn’t this the wrong neighborhood to be protesting in? I mean, it’s not like we have a huge pregnancy rate amongst the GLBT population.
~ Isaiah Walter on Facebook, as quoted by San Diego Gay & Lesbian News on July 29, commenting on a pro-life protest of a Cocktails for Choice fundraiser held by Planned Parenthood of the Pacific Southwest held at Eden, “the hottest gay nightclub in San Diego,” according to SanDiegoClubs.com
[Photo via San Diego Gay & Lesbian News; click to enlarge]

It isn’t unheard of; check out this post-abortion testimony from the president of Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=644414331457
In any event, I say we need to reach out to anybody and everybody!
It figures Planned Barrenhood would troll for money and support among the LGBT crowd. From a strictly Darwinist perspective, it just shows why pro-life will eventually win: the “culture of death” is too busy contracepting, aborting and sodomizing its members out of the gene pool.
Umm, Planned Parenthood is a HEALTH Center, Pap smears, Cancer screenings, STD screening,GYN exams, prostate exams etc etc etc. Gay & Lesbians ARE PEOPLE who need the same kind of healthcare as heteros. Duh
Scammed Parenthood is as much a healthcare center as a drug dealer is a pharmacy.
Umm, Planned Parenthood is a HEALTH Center, Pap smears, Cancer screenings, STD screening,GYN exams, prostate exams etc etc etc. Gay & Lesbians ARE PEOPLE who need the same kind of healthcare as heteros. Duh
Ummm…..And they kill innocent human beings. Duh.
So much for being a “health center”.
Any person that could write “LOL” under those photos is sick beyond recovery. Only God can heal them. Pray for them.
Dear kat…
We know what Planned Parenthood is all about, and we don’t buy that “friendly health clinic in your neighborhood” shtick.
Planned Parenthood is focused on sexualizing our young children, so they get pregnant often and buy lots of abortions. This perhaps makes them popular with the GLBT community, because they encourage all sorts of sexual activity, no matter how risky. PP promises that they can make it “safe.”
Yet the many abuses at Planned Parenthood are being discovered —
– Covering up statutory rape and failing to report child abuse
– circumventing parental notification laws
– pressuring girls into abortions when they are most scared, confused and vulnerable
– aiding pimps and sex traffickers in their abuse of underage girls
– targeting minorities, especially marketing abortion to people of color
– gouging Medicare and state welfare programs with extra billings
And this isn’t just tinfoil hat, fringe-group paranoia. Victims have sued Planned Parenthood, several states are investigating Planned Parenthood, and Congress is gearing up for a full-scale investigation of how PP has been using the billions of dollars that taxpayers have given them.
too funny, as in odd. I thought gays want to adopt and become a family?
Kat, it was the Facebook commenter who noted the irony, not us….
Mr. Walter thought the PROTESTERS were out of place in a gay “neighborhood”..yet not a PP fundraiser?
I mean, if “there’s not a huge pregnancy rate amongst the GLBT population”, then why was PP there holding a fundraiser in the first place?
Pamela- planned parenthood, as much as it pains pro-lifers to admit it, is a health clinic. They provide health services to everyone: male, female, gay, or straight.
You know the “peaceful” pro-life movement? One of them threw a Molotov cocktail at a planned parenthood in Texas- one that didn’t offer abortion services at all.
Pull your heads out of the sand, people.
You’ll find as much health care at a Planned Parenthood as you will find gentlemen at a gentlemen’s club.
Jane wrote: You know the “peaceful” pro-life movement? One of them threw a Molotov cocktail at a planned parenthood in Texas- one that didn’t offer abortion services at all.
We don’t know that it was a pro-life activist. It seems unlikely, since vandals with anti-abortion passions are usually unable to keep quiet about their obsession.
It could have been a post-abortive mother or her boyfriend, who was angry at the counsellor at this PP for encouraging an abortion. Or even someone who became pregnant or caught an STD after trusting PP’s promise that he/she would be kept “safe” by PP’s program.
Or it could have been a Planned Parenthood supporter or operative who wanted to “make a splash” with a harmless bit of diesel fuel, hoping to win back some public sympathy for Planned Parenthood.
I hope we find the perpetrator, so we can know the truth.
del, get a life. You probably see a conspiracy in the birthday presents your mom gives you! Have fun at your tea parties. But remember don’t call police, or fire department they are to be privatized… and don’t eat or drink anything produced in the US or anywhere else, it could be toxic.
kat, is right on. Sharing.
If this has nothing to do with abortion, why was the event called “Cocktails for Choice”? Are they starting to believe their own rhetoric to the point that even THEY forgot what the “choice” they’re talking about is?
Del,
Yet the many abuses at Planned Parenthood are being discovered –
– Covering up statutory rape and failing to report child abuse
– circumventing parental notification laws
– pressuring girls into abortions when they are most scared, confused and vulnerable
– aiding pimps and sex traffickers in their abuse of underage girls
– targeting minorities, especially marketing abortion to people of color
– gouging Medicare and state welfare programs with extra billings
And this isn’t just tinfoil hat, fringe-group paranoia. Victims have sued Planned Parenthood, several states are investigating Planned Parenthood, and Congress is gearing up for a full-scale investigation of how PP has been using the billions of dollars that taxpayers have given them.
Any establishment should pay the consequences if charges against them are proven factual. Your blanket claim of misconduct of every PP is ludicrous. They are a lawful business entitled to operate and provide needed services to the public, regardless of your personal beliefs.
Juror says:
Your blanket claim of misconduct of every PP is ludicrous.
Where did you get the impression that Del said “every” PP location was being accused of misconduct?
Juror:
Not EVERY Planned Parenthood. Just the ones they’ve gone into and videotaped misconduct in, or the Planned Parenthoods who have court cases against them for such things.
Please. This is just another example of Planned Parenthood renting a crowd of supporters. Instead of using women in crisis, they are using the LGBT community. When the LGBT community figure out what is going on, they’ll be pretty ticked-off that they have been used that way. Much like women in crisis and the owners and workers of abortion mills and activists are just starting to find out now after 40 or so years of being used for profit.
If only PP would use their ‘heathcare service’ for good!
BTW, the true pro-life movement does not condone violence. You’ll find violent extremist claiming to be pro-life are very quickly distanced from the true movement.
Jesus said…”straight is the way”…
Rusty Walker, a former homosexual, had just returned from the homosexual pride parade in San Francisco when I met him and he shared that little gem with me.
http://thelavenderlie.com/index.html
Rusty is a hoot. He is not one to dance around the issue of homosexuality.
I asked Rusty, where you looking for Jesus when HE came to get you or did HE just make an arbitrary to seek you out while you were yet HIS enemy.
Rusty answered immediately that he was NOT seeking Jesus when Jesus came to HIM. The will and the timing was entirely GOD’s.
Read the book. It spells it out very clearly.
Juror says:
Your blanket claim of misconduct of every PP is ludicrous.
It is a matter of established policy for every PP whore house in america to defraud the federal government as early and as often as possible.
PP has been doing it for more than 40 years.
With their creative means testing any PP chop shop could qualify Paris Hilton for taxpayer funded std testing, pregnancy testing, contraceptives and abortions.
PP is one giant money laundering operation for democrat, liberal/progressive/leftist political operations.
Jane! Didn’t we have this exact same argument a couple weeks ago? The extremists of a movement do not define it. With the millions of people against abortion, and a few crimes (always wrong, awful, I would never condone such behavior), the violence is by definition extremist behavior!
Really tired of everyone hating on gays, btw.
LOL, GLBT is embracing the slaughter of babies with their “Cocktails for Choice,” which means they are intruding with a murderous intrusion into the hetero community.
LOL, Gay and Bi men are so reckless and promiscuous that they are actually cultivating strains of gonorrhea in their bodies that are resistant to the last line of antibiotics that can treat the disease:
http://gerardnadal.com/2011/07/12/the-emergence-in-homosexual-and-bi-sexual-men-of-decreased-sensitivity-of-gonorrhea-to-antibiotics/
LOL, GLBT doesn’t demand an end to abortion, having tasted the bitterness of rejection and discrimination.
LOL, this is a sick, narcissistic, hedonistic, and murderous community.
We’re all laughing out loud.
I decided to come back to this site again, but now I’m leaving. It’s not the post that’s behind that decision; it’s the comments, and the fact that every single post related to GLBT people on this site is about heinous things done by pro-choice GLBT people. I do not deserve to be characterized as sick, narcissistic, hedonistic, and murderous because I’m bisexual, especially when I’m pro-life. I’ve got finger cramps because I’ve spent this summer knitting thirteen (so far) baby blankets to give to Birthright. I pray for an end to abortion every day.
Isaiah Walter and Eden soundly deserve to be called out and criticized. I do not. The other GLBT pro-life people I know, and I know several, do not. I don’t deserve the way this site treats me and I’m not going to be here to see it anymore. There are many decent people here, including ones I disagree about GLBT issues with, but there’s also a blind stream of bigotry that wants to pretend that being GLBT is somehow intrinsically linked to being pro-choice. In a way it’s almost funny, because it means that those people and the GLBT pro-choicers have bought into the same lie.
I’m on Twitter under @MarauderTheSN talking about pro-life stuff, GLBT stuff, and whatever else comes to mind, if anyone wants to talk (politely and respectfully) over there. Bye, guys. Special thanks to Carla, xalisae, Kelsey, MaryLee, and phillymiss for making the comments that gave me hope for this site, but it’s gotten to the point where the cons outweigh the pros.
I’m so sorry, Marauder. :(
“LOL, this is a sick, narcissistic, hedonistic, and murderous community”
Underscoring the reputation of the Catholic pro-life community as being narrow minded religious homophobes is Dr. Nadal. I’m not saying the reputation is accurate (most of the regulars here are fairly tolerant) but Dr. Nadal and Ken (who lives in the Dallas area and hates Planned Parenthood) sure do a lot to advance it!
And while Dr. Nadal claimes that the gay community is ”murderous,” (right, teachers, civic leaders, business executive, entertainers and yes, very good parents) those who have killed abortion providers were all Christians. LOL
But thanks to Dr. Nadal, Ken, and a few others, a pro-life bi-sexual person, who is always very polite, is leaving the blog. Nice way to alienate your own, guys!
Homosexuality, contraception, and abortion all go hand in hand. They are ALL part of the culture of death, so it is no surprise to see Planned Parenthood reach out to the homosexual community who hold much (anti-life) in common with them.
I’m sorry, Marauder. Having once been part of a group that “Real Pro-Lifers™” refuse to count in their ranks, I sympathize. I might not agree with homosexuality from a biological standpoint, and even (now) from a religious standpoint, but I respect that not everyone shares my viewpoints about either thing, and as long as you’re not harming anyone else (as opposed to abortion), I respect your rights to do what you want to do.
No one is always right about everything, though, and I think we (Pro-Lifers who find criticism from “traditional Pro-Lifers”) need to keep this in mind. I’ve been a contracepting adult who became pregnant with a crisis pregnancy and didn’t abort. I had every intention of protecting my child once she came into the world even when I was pregnant with her, and I did so fervently. Sweeping generalities about groups of people don’t do anyone any good, as Pro-Lifers should well know. We know we are not a cohesive unit of terrorists willing to kill for our ideals. And when we are characterized as such in sweeping generalizations by the opposition, this is no better than lumping GLB/atheists in with every abortion supporter.
But Things Probably Won’t Change. I accept that.
CC,
Medical facts are what they are, and they come from CDC. I’m not going to sit here and pretend that the GLBT leadership don’t support Planned Parenthood and abortion, or Planned Parenthood’s pernicious outreach to children down to the age of five, because in fact, they do. Rather than call the leadership on that, Marauder has opted to leave.
We have watched the leadership and large swaths of the GLBT community through the years sneer at Christianity in general, and Evangelicals and Catholics in particular. They are the masters at demonizing any who stand in opposition to them, and Marauder’s tantrum notwithstanding, the rest of the community is silent about it.
Finger cramps from knitting baby blankets is a virtuous thing. Turning a blind eye to the GLBT political alliances with Planned Parenthood and the left-wing politicians who support PP is not. Neither is ranting at those who do.
As for the objections to hedonism, this very well-footnoted article might be instructive:
http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/promiscuity/
As for the objections to hedonism, this very well-footnoted article might be instructive:
Ewww, “promiscuity.” Sounds like what the sisters of no mercy told us before we had sex with our Catholic high school boyfriends. But seriously Dr. Nadal, you’re presenting an American College of Pediatrician website as a source material. Is this what passes for legit as Franciscan University – which is so not Notre Dame or Georgetown.
“The “American College of Pediatricians” screens its membership according to a pro-life philosophy spelled out on its “Core Values” page and an anti-gay philosophy spelled out here. The organization’s Bible Belt charter members are listed here.
According to Concerned Women for America, ACP formed in retaliation against the American Academy of Pediatrics after AAP released scientific studies finding no significant harm to children in same-sex parenting. ACP accuses the AAP of “bad science” but does not say how AAP’s studies were flawed.
The ACP’s family resources page links primarily to religious-right organizations. In contrast to the scientific approach of the AAP, ACP employs what it considers a predetermined “moral” filter to pediatrics”
Sorry that you feel that way, Marauder. I see your problem with some of the comments on this thread, but shouldn’t PP take some of your wrath on this, too? Haven’t they tarred the LGBT community with the same brush with this excercise? Whether they have or haven’t, that is going to be the perception.
You sound like your will is genuine to the pro-life movement. Maybe there is room for you to start a pro-life LGBT community – not that you should have to, but if the likes of PP and their abortion industry buddies are going to pull stunts like this and you’re not keen on that idea, maybe it needs some opposition.
My hope and prayer is for every LGBT is to know God loves them and he has a purpose for their lives. Whether they think they are “born this way” or not there is hope, help, healing for them and as Jesus told Nicodemus they can be “born again”, they can be a new creation in Jesus Christ. I would not want them to be mutilated and destroyed in their mother’s womb if there were a prenatal test discovered nor outside of the womb. I am saddened that they have aligned themselves with the Death Babies R Us crowd, PP. I do not hate or fear same sex individuals but I do believe it is “anti-life” to embrace and celebrate what is the antithesis of what God designed to bring LIFE (my heart breaks for them as I believe God’s heart breaks for them as well). I am going to bed so I won’t stay up to argue.
You’ll find as much health care at a Planned Parenthood as you will find gentlemen at a gentlemen’s club.
BEST QUOTE EVER!
LOL, Gay and Bi men are so reckless and promiscuous that they are actually cultivating strains of gonorrhea in their bodies that are resistant to the last line of antibiotics that can treat the disease
and everyday joe’s are so reckless that they eat unhealthly food to the point of developing type 2 diabetes. You laugh at them to?
LOL, GLBT is embracing the slaughter of babies with their “Cocktails for Choice,” which means they are intruding with a murderous intrusion into the hetero community.
Only in your little mind. In actuallity, they are embracing a cause that defends against intrusion on what another person decides they may do with their own body. Makes complete sense why they would support that injustice.
LOL, GLBT doesn’t demand an end to abortion, having tasted the bitterness of rejection and discrimination.
That rejection & bitterness from bigots like you is the very reason they defend a woman’s right to choose.
LOL, this is a sick, narcissistic, hedonistic, and murderous community.We’re all laughing out loud.
I have no doubt you and your fellow Klan members are. The rest of us aren’t however.
Lrning,
Where did you get the impression that Del said “every” PP location was being accused of misconduct?
We all know she was implying it when she used the phrase “at Planned Parenthood”. She certainly doesn’t specify a particular PP for any of the infractions. She just makes a general blanket statement.
Your actions are admirable to try and clean up a business if they are doing things the wrong way. Everyone wants that, unless they are a twisted F*%$. Can’t shut them down if they are doing things lawfully though.
Juror, we often make blanket statements about the nazis too because even the nazis that weren’t directly responsible for the killings gave their support for the killings and were a large part of the problem.
I will give a free pass to any PP employees that aren’t aware that PP commits abortions, otherwise they are all lumped in together to me.
Marauder,
You probably won’t be around to read this, but I’m sorry to see you go.
Juror,
Only in your little mind. In actuallity, they are embracing a cause that defends against intrusion on what another person decides they may do with their own body.
1) “Little mind”? Based on what you’ve written so far, you don’t strike me as an intellectual giant. It would be best if you didn’t attempt to insult the intelligence of others. It only makes you look more foolish.
2)I think you mean “actuality”.
3) Your comment shows a lack of understanding of what abortion is and of basic biology. Please go do some research. Find a biology textbook and review the reproduction and embryology sections. Then, come back. Otherwise, you are only going to embarrass yourself further.
Makes complete sense why they would support that injustice.
Indeed, many (but not all) members of the GLBT community are supporting an injustice. It’s a pity, really, to see a community that has been oppressed turn around and oppress others.
That rejection & bitterness from bigots like you is the very reason they defend a woman’s right to choose.
So, basically the GLBT community is saying, “People are mean to us, therefore we are going to support the killing of innocent human beings”? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
I have no doubt you and your fellow Klan members are.
An ironic comment coming from somebody who condones the killing of innocent human beings.
Lucy,
Your nonsensical rebuttal shows nothing more than you condone the actions of a bigot. Oh, and that you are also a grammer Nazi.
This seems crazy to me. Why in the world would the GLBT community support abortion? Planned Parenthood is not about healthcare. They are all about their cash cow - aborting human life.
If you accept that someone is born gay due to genetics and you support abortion on demand then it follows that you are 100% okay with all pre-born gay children being judged not worthy to live. A woman’s choice, right? Thus abortion is used to cull the undesired/defective child.
I personally think that human behavior is much too complex to be attributed to a single gene or gene set. But I think that Dr. Nadal is on to something with his comment - but I’d characterize it as murderous self hate.
Juror,
Your response shows that you either did not read my comment or you have severe problems with reading comprehension.
Oh, and that you are also a grammer Nazi.
I would take that as a compliment. However, I corrected your spelling, not your grammar.
(Oh, and it’s “grammar”, not “grammer”)
(Oh, and it’s “grammar”, not “grammer”)
ROTFLMAO :-)
Juror says:
We all know she was implying it when she used the phrase “at Planned Parenthood”.
No we don’t. Large companies with multiple locations are often mentioned without specifying location.
Your response shows that you either did not read my comment or you have severe problems with reading comprehension.Oh, and that you are also a grammer Nazi.I would take that as a compliment. However, I corrected your spelling, not your grammar.
(Oh, and it’s “grammar”, not “grammer”)
What do you mean problems with my comprehension? I told you that it was nonsensical didn’t I? That’s exactly what it was.
Thank you for correcting me. You’re an internet spelling nazi. Which is even worse. Maybe your new to the interwebs, but no one cares for people who do that. Because it’s lame.
By the way, your still standing naked in front of us all. Exposed as a person that supports a bigot. How can you sleep at night with all that hate churning? That’s gotta suck.
“By the way, your still standing…”
It’s “You’re,” not “Your.”
Juror,
If you read the original post (Ipresume you read better than you spell), you’ll see that my LOL was me riffing on the original person being quoted.
It’s called sarcasm, but I understand that such sarcasm is difficult for you, given your (that’s the correct use of ‘your’, btw) only refernce points are Nazis and the Klan. Work on the spelling, then learn to read critically, then get up to speed on the issues, then try responding with something a little higher than Neanderthal prose.
Get well soon.
“If you accept that someone is born gay due to genetics and you support abortion on demand then it follows that you are 100% okay with all pre-born gay children being judged not worthy to live.” – how do you come to that conclusion? I’d be willing to bet that there is significantly less homophobia amongst pro-choicers than anti-choicers, certainly from what I’ve observed on this site. I’m pro-choice but I would never want to abort due to the fetus testing gay. No more than I would if it were a redhead. Or green eyed. It’s not a genetic defect.
Reality,
I think it safe to say that in most cases when a married woman conceives a child, she and her husband do not dream of having a homosexual, lesbian, bi, or future transgendered child. I honestly believe that if the day ever comes that a genetic or metabolic screen can be devised for GLBT babies, most will end up in an abortionist’s garbage can.
Will the GLBT community then be up in arms? Why? Why are they not championing the cause of the pre-born now, especially those being targeted for genetic characteristics not favored by parents? Why is there tacit support for Planned Parenthood?
Gerard, expectant parents don’t dream of many things for their offspring yet readily embrace what they receive. I still believe that a true pro-choice mindset is less likely to consider potential homosexuality to be such a flaw that it warrants abortion.
There may well be a significant group who only support a pro-choice position when it suits their own circumstances who would also find the thought of having a gay child abhorrent. I think this is the ‘danger group’.
The GLBT community have had to fight so hard for their own situation that they do not support other groups being forced to live in a manner which they don’t wish to. Hence their support for the pro-choice position.
Therefore, their driver would be to educate more of the populace that having a potentially gay child is not a negative event. It is not a defect.
I agree with Reality’s comment that having red hair or green eyes isn’t a genetic defect.
They aren’t…yet.
But who knows what moral relativity and modern-day eugenics will to do social standards in the next 40 years? Scary thought.
Gerard, expectant parents don’t dream of many things for their offspring yet readily embrace what they receive.
Reality,
Respectfully, I submit that those who embrace what they receive are those who are already, to varying degrees, pro-life. 93% of Down Syndrome babies are aborted. The numbers are estimated to be about the same for the other trisomic conditions.
Regina and I refused even the afp test when she conceived our children. We simply didn’t want to know if anything was wrong. We are the exceptions, and not the rule. So, I still maintain that the discovery of genetic or metabolic markers for GLBT would result in a similar holocaust.
Therefore, their driver would be to educate more of the populace that having a potentially gay child is not a negative event. It is not a defect.
We parents of special needs children say the same thing about autism, Down syndrome, trisomy 18, spina bifida, etc. It all depends on whose ox is getting gored. The abortive holocaust against GLBT babies will reinforce in the collective consciousness that GLBT is indeed a condition of defect. That in turn will usher in a new age of intolerance as Gays and lesbians dwindle away in the population.
The same education that you suggest GLBT will engage in is the same education they should be engaged in now, especially in light of their own persecutions. Why do you suppose they will not step out and educate on Down syndrome in the same manner you predict they would on GLBT?
Gerard,
you’re reaching. You are saying when ‘we develop a genetic test to determine homosexuality in the womb, GLBT people will be pissed and will demand to get rid of the right to abortion. That is a lot of ‘what if’s don’t you think, especially because you aren’t a gay person and don’t know how they feel? It is possible that gay people will be bothered by this. It is also possible that the gay community will accept that there are many factors in determining why women get abortions and it’s not the responsibility of women to keep making more gay kids to appease the gays. But I don’t know how they would feel I am not gay either.
You said.”
Why do you suppose they will not step out and educate on Down syndrome in the same manner you predict they would on GLBT?”
I’m assuming you already know the answer to this question? Having Down’s syndrome is indeed a defect. It occurs because something is wrong. To a lot of people homosexuality is not a defect, so there is a world of difference.
You describe genetic defects which of themselves do have deleterious impacts on the child, the family and society. So some people choose to abort in some cases. I don’t agree that it is always necessary. Homosexuality is not a genetic defect and only has this type of impact when homophobia/bigotry/whatever occurs.
“The abortive holocaust against GLBT babies will reinforce in the collective consciousness that GLBT is indeed a condition of defect” – I do not believe that this would be the case except amongst the group I mentioned. It simply is not a defect and education and the extinguishment of homophobia will negate the potential for mass abortion.
Shannon,
I’m not saying that GLBT’s will call for an end to abortion, just to aborting GLBT babies. Defect is in the eye of the beholder, and I say that as the father of a son with autism.
Well Shannon, we have an example right now. Unborn girls are being killed off at alarming rates just because they’re girls. But what can the feminists say? The fetus has no value and can be disposed of through “abortion on demand and without apology”, but suddenly has value if it’s a girl? You can kill your child b/c s/he interferes with your lifestyle but not b/c she’s a she?
If a test to determine homosexuality in the womb is discovered, what will the GLBT community do? Reality I think you are overly optimistic in you assessment of what even those who outwardly support homosexuality will do when it’s their child. Time will tell, but if being a female can be considered a defect, I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume GLBT babies will be in jeopardy too.
What do you mean problems with my comprehension?
I mean that you have difficulty understanding what you read.
I told you that it was nonsensical didn’t I? That’s exactly what it was.
I’m sure it would seem that way to somebody with poor reading comprehension skills.
Thank you for correcting me. You’re an internet spelling nazi. Which is even worse. Maybe your new to the interwebs, but no one cares for people who do that. Because it’s lame.
You’re welcome :) But, you should have put “Maybe you’re new”, not “your“.
I’m sure that attention to grammar and spelling does seem “lame” to those who have difficulty with it. Instead of becoming angry with those who correct you, why don’t you try to improve? It would be a far better use of your time.
By the way, your still standing naked in front of us all.
…..That’s a little creepy. Gerard already corrected you, but I will reinforce the lesson: It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
Exposed as a person that supports a bigot.
Got anything to back that up?
How can you sleep at night with all that hate churning? That’s gotta suck.
Funny, I was just going to ask you the same question.
“Having Down’s syndrome is indeed a defect. It occurs because something is wrong. To a lot of people homosexuality is not a defect, so there is a world of difference.”
Defect in what sense? Existential? “There’s nothin’ wrong with me.” Understood. But in Darwinian terms, it’s undeniably a defect.
“To a lot of people” isn’t really an argument, either, for that matter.
Shannon said:
“To a lot of people homosexuality is not a defect…”
And to a lot of people, it is. To a lot of people, children with Down’s syndrome are considered a joy. A close family friend has Down syndrome. I once asked his parents how they handled it. They said, “Handle what? Having a son who only shows us love and sees beauty in everything? What’s to handle?” Shame on me for thinking that their son was some kind of burden. Shame on you for labeling a human being as “defective.”
I really don’t understand how you aren’t understanding the point that’s been very clearly made over and over. I know very few people (including those who are pro-choice) that *wish* for a homosexual child. I have no doubt that if, as Gerard pointed out, we are one day able to determine if a fetus has the “gay gene” that many will be aborted for that reason alone, just as children with Down’s syndrome are aborted for that reason alone.
Thank you for correcting me. You’re an internet spelling nazi. Which is even worse. Maybe your new to the interwebs, but no one cares for people who do that. Because it’s lame.
What are you? Thirteen? I can think of…four places off the top of my head specifically purposed to making fun of people who write badly on the internet. You are, naturally, permitted to write like an illiterate idiot and no one is going to take your (note that I use the possessive “your” in the proper fashion) keyboard away for it. But making fun of people because they write more cogently, eloquently, and correctly than you, whilst correcting your bad writing habits, is you demanding we respect you for being wrong. I’m sorry, you’re (because there’s an apostrophe when you’re using the “you are” homophone, get-it-right-this-is-not-hard) nuts.
Lrn2grammar&spelling. PLZKTHXBAI.
Good heavens.
First of all: Marauder, I don’t think any sane person on this forum wants to see you go… and I’ll wager that no sane person (you’ll note that I’m gently excluding the trolls, pseudo-trolls, and their ilk) thinks that you, or your lifestyle, disqualifies you from being pro-life. Mind you, I think it’s every bit of fair that we can have a philosophical examination of the non-heterosexual viewpoint/lifestyle, and how it might relate to the so-called “pro-choice” movement and (perhaps unintentionally) strengthening it; but I think that’s possible without putting you (or anyone else) in the cross-hairs. I do hope you’ll stay.
Second: Juror, your metamorphosis into a troll is proceeding apace, as I feared. Perhaps you might (this is only a suggestion, mind you) take some time off, take a few deep breaths, do something soul-refreshing, and then come back with a clear head? Your flame-thrower is getting a bit of a work-out, your tendency to “flame first, think later” is getting far more pronounced (especially re: your reply to Dr. Nadal and Lucy), and your reasoning (and your ability to self-edit) is getting murkier by the minute. Take it from an ex-troll: it’s not worth it. Go cool off, learn a bit of humility, and then come back.
Planned Parenthood is a major supporter of Gay rights. They are not “renting a crowd” but rather showing their support and receiving it as well. The commenter is correct as gays and lesbians rarely have need of abortion services… If they were protesting contraception then it would make more sense.
Gay rights and women’s rights are being attacked and denied by the same groups of social and religious fundamentalist oppressors. It is only natural that they become allies against a common threat.
Seems to me that it is mostly heterosexual men that commit most of the crime in this world…
Biggz. Oppressing women’s rights? That’s what the abortion industry started doing about 40 years ago…they even had the audacity to use the feminist movement as a cover to do it. The authentic women’s right movement, the original one, the REAL one, was very anti-abortion.
It’d serve you better to know the motivation of people you label as oppressors rather than to assume it. Then you wouldn’t run the risk of being such an embarrassment to the pro-abortion movement with your ignorance.
Biggz: “Gay rights and women’s rights are being attacked and denied by the same groups of social and religious fundamentalist oppressors. It is only natural that they become allies against a common threat.”
Yada yada yada blah blah blah…
So why are many gays against abortion, and why are SO many women against it? Self-loathing? Pro-life atheists, etc.
Biggz, you’re trying to simplify the world so that you can make simple, black and white judgments about people. It’s not that simple.