Ohio abortion clinic also offers adoption services
Capital Care Network, in Columbus, Ohio, is a one-of-a-kind women’s health center. They do perform abortions, but before doing so, they offer the woman the services of something no other abortion clinic in America can – a fully licensed adoption agency on site.
~ Lez Get Real reporting on an adoption agency located inside an Ohio abortion clinic, January 9
Pictured above are Joni Ogle and Molly Rampe of Choice Network, via The Columbus Dispatch
Jan.11, 2012 6:00 am |
Adoption, Industry watch |
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
This is a great experiment! It will be fascinating to learn how many choose to carry to term and then place for adoption vs. how many choose abortion.
That candle in the background lessens the horror of all the deaths that happen there. Clever.
Denise, I don’t think we should be “experimenting” when lives on the line.
Its a start to offer adoption, but do they also offer support for women who want to parent their babies? Do they offer prenatal care and baby items like cribs, formula, bottles, diapers, clothes? Do they offer friendship for the moms who want to keep their babies? If not, why not?
Yeah, and PP does basic breast exams. So what. They still kill babies. The adoption option may make them feel better about themselves, and they may even save a few lives, but they are still killing babies. Gosnell and Brigham may have been upstanding members of their communities in the eyes of many, but they were still killing babies. You can paint a turd white, but it is still a turd. Keep the adoption agency and stop killing babies. Then you will really have something good to talk about. Until then, you are still killing babies.
When it comes to decreasing abortion, we need to do a LOT of experimenting. By seeing what girls and women choose when these two options are presented, we might learn something that will help.
Also, this is an experiment that doesn’t involve putting anything in the water supply.
Bryan,
LIKE LIKE LIKE!!! Absolutely!!
What Carla said.
I guess it’s a start – it makes me really uneasy, though. I gotta agree with Bryan.
I agree with Bryan that no amount of “But we do this good thing too!!!” makes it okay to do abortions.
However, this is possibly a step in the right direction. Assuming this particular place is genuinely committed to offering adoption, then perhaps this is yet another sign that the wind is shifting against abortion. It’s not good enough. It will never be until abortion is utterly rejected. But hopefully it’s not nothing. Maybe they’ll end up doing so few abortions that they ultimately drop that angle entirely, even! (Hey, I can be hopeful!)
An exception that proves the rule: this is the only abortion clinic that bothers to give women any realistic option than murdering their child.
As an adoptive Mom, I find the idea of an agency in the clinic building simultaneously positive and repellent. Repellent because adoption is all about the child–what’s best for the child, what do you want for the child, what kind of family would you choose to raise your child–while abortion is the opposite. At the same time, so many pregnant moms and their families are so flat-out ignorant about what adoption in the 21st century means. There are these myths about “waiting lists”, and “selling babies”, and “no one wants your baby because xyz” and they are not true. Having real prospective-family profiles on site would make a huge impact in addressing these myths and could change a lot of culture around adoption in a positive way. It could also save a lot of lives. It doesn’t make the abortion clinic ok, but hey, they might be contributing to putting themselves out of business if people understand more about adoption.
Alice, I too hope this is a step in the right direction. And maybe the adoption side of the business will show them how women making an unselfish choice will find joy in their decision despite tough circumstances rather than the devastation of abortion. And God willing, more hearts will be changed.
Please excuse the poor attitude of my first comment. I get tired of Pro-Aborts being all bubbly about the good they supposedly do in the midst of their killing fields. But I still hope and pray for their conversion. And I really hope this yields good fruit as it can if God wills it and we cooperate.
Alice, that was my reaction as well…”not good enough” but the tide is turning!
this is a surprise and im down the middle with this. but im swaying to carla and bryan…..stop killing babies.
Sad, the only reason the woman chose adoption was because her baby was over the 20 week limit when it would have been legal to kill her. Just a few weeks delivered her from being an abortee to being an adoptee. The only thing this article tells us is that when a woman does not have the choice of abortion, she has other choices if she is unable to care for her child. Clearly, the only reason she did not choose to abort, was she was not legally able to do so.
Sorry. But I will be a cynic until I hear otherwise. I would not “trust” anyone with that close of an association to the killing of innocents.
Pay no attention to the abortionist that just walked in the door or the young girls in gowns heading down the hall……..crying? What crying? I am not sure why that ambulance is here but its lights are off so it must not be an emergency.
Like so many others have stated. This is a tough call…from a practical, realistic and hopeful stance this appears like a plausible and, even, helpful strategy. From a strictly moral perspective, it doesn’t rise to the appropriate standard of eliminating abortion as an “option” for women. In an interesting way, it illuminates the fact that most abortions are not medically necessary.
right carla. isnt an emergency an emergency? doesnt look like they value women. just their way of saving their reputation. isnt that the most important thing of all?
FROM THE ARTICLE:
“Choice Network says it is “pro-woman,” not just pro-adoption. That means working to help clients settle on the decision that’s best for them, whether that turns out to be abortion, adoption or parenting, she said.”
I think its deceptive window dressing, or worse – a type of Sophie’s Choice of abortion clinics. I think it is disingenuous at best.
I cannot fathom the moral, psychological, and spiritual disconnect that it takes to offer a woman this option:
“If you want to pursue adoption, then it is a baby, a human life worth saving, and we fully support you in that…”
“…However, if you don’t want to carry and adopt out, then it is a blob of tissue, ‘not really a baby, that we will be happy to kill and dispose of for you.'” C’mon! Really?
Anybody? Anybody? Buehler?
I would like to be able to offer a “On second thought” reflection on this Ohio abortuary offering adoption, because I believe that adoption is a huge part of the solution to abortion; however, I cannot – again – fathom what kind of moral turpitude it takes to make the above offer to a woman. Again: we can kill your baby or place your baby; your choice.
It’s not like there are CPC’s and adoptions agencies that ARE NOT advocating abortion everywhere. There are. This is unnecessary and I believe an attempt at claiming moral high ground that will never be theirs.
I’m a cynic, too, Carla. Are those in the adoption clinic supportive of legal abortion? I’m guessing they are.
Planned Parenthood does this. Look under Lynchburg, VA and Roanoke, VA. Perhaps the individual Annual Reports would give the numbers of adoptions vs abortions at each affiliate. Ratio in their national report in not very good. Blessings on the Lynchburg protesters.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-systems/history-28077.htm
HISTORY OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD HEALTH SYSTEMS
“Lynchburg, VA
… (In 1999, PPFA Security concluded that Lynchburg protesters were more intense and confrontational then any other protesters from among 600+ Planned Parenthood facilities that did not provide abortion services.)
The Lynchburg health center was the first Planned Parenthood center to establish on-site adoption services through a licensing agreement with Children’s Home Society of Virginia. A CHS social worker maintained an office in the Lynchburg Center from 2000-2006.
The Lynchburg Center became a PPHS health center when the Raleigh-based affiliate merged with Planned Parenthood of the Blue Ridge in 2007.
Planned Parenthood operations in Lynchburg have been perennially subsidized as expenses have exceeded revenues every year of its operation. In 2008, PPHS established an interdepartmental committee to overcome the operating shortfall. In 2009, and in the wake of the global recession, the decision was made to close the health center by the end of June.” …
Roanoke, VA
… Also in 1999, Planned Parenthood entered into a licensing agreement with Children’s Home Society to make full adoption services available at its health centers. (Roanoke became the only facility in the country providing adoption and abortion services under one roof and the first affiliate in the nation with on-site adoption.) …”.
Positives: Possibly having an adoption agency right there on site could help save some babies, the proximity will help and depending on how pro-adoption the staff is it could end up saving a lot of lives.
Negatives: It’s an abortion clinic, of course.
Like Sydney said, I would be interested to see what options they have for KEEPING the baby. I am not anti-adoption at all, but I would much rather see a young woman have help to keep her baby, whatever it is that she might need, rather than feel like she is incapable of keeping the baby due to finances, abuse, or other social problems.
So pro-lifers are for sticking images of mutilated babies in the faces of people and children in hopes that it saves one life…
…but in the case of a clear situation where a life could be saved, it is unacceptable?
Am I missing something here?
Ex-GOP
Those who are pro-life are opposed to both the pro-choice and the pro-abortion mentality. This particular clinic appears to be the only one in America that is actually pro-choice instead of pro-abortion. Pro-choice is a step in the right direction for the abortion industry. If every abortion clinic in America emulated the one in Ohio, we would be pleased at the development. But such a positive development will not enable us to make peace with the abortion industry. For it is axiomatic that peace can only come when the bloodshed ends. And pro-choice, like pro-abortion, is still a way of life rich with bloodshed.
I guess I am wondering X-GOP if they are TRULY trying to place babies. Or is this a farce? Is this just something they can point to and say “Oh see, we’re not pro-abortion! We have an adoption agency here.” or are they REALLY trying to help women place their babies.
I’m cynical. Sure.
This is like a little dog poop in a tray of brownies.
Bad mix.
They still kill babies. Yeah choice! Except violent murder is a crappy choice.
I’m not celebrating the choice of death.
Seriously, it’s like the domestic violence shelter where rapists can pick a victim.
Not interested.
i shared some grahic abortion images the other day with a girl who didnt believe the abortion industry did anything but firt trimester abortions. i got my book out and warned her it was going to be bad. she had no problem and was beyond interested. she said “omg i just dont believe this. look at those poor babies.” she kept looking at the bucket of late term babies in canada. the dead babies who look like they are sleeping. she just kept saying “i just cant believe this.” another educated woman. her final reply? “i am against abortion but i never knew how sickening it was.” i will keep showing graphic images. they work and my taxes pay for abortion.
Sydney – at the end of the day, we’ve always said that a big chunk of the industry is because of the money. If you want to know almost any motivation in life, follow the money…so it it will be of benefit to the clinic to get abortion referrals (high rent or something for them within their clinic) – then I think it will be a good thing.
Maybe every single time a woman gets pregnant she should just be rushed off to an 8 hour class to watch the pros and cons of all the choices she has in front of them.
Not sure how to feel. They are still a murdering mill performing abortion) but at least they give options.