Second grader’s dream: For Obama not to be president “because he says you can kill babys”
I received the following from a second grade teacher:
The class has been learning about Martin Luther King, Jr., and we were talking about how one person can make a big difference. We talked about how he had a dream.
So they had a writing assignment to write about what their dream for the world right now is. This little boy wrote, “My dream for the world Is for president Obama to not be president ever again. Because he says you can kill babies. And because that is a dumb law.”
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BTW, happy 48th birthday, Michelle. May you not spend it next year in the White House.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Out of the mouths of babes!
The adults in this kid’s life have utterly failed him. He can’t spell “again” or “president” correctly, but he’s mindlessly repeating right wing propaganda in the second grade. What are the odds that his parents have attended a “Tea Party” at least once?
Out of the mouths of babes indeed, since adults are so gullible and stupid. The German people were led to their destruction by a German street thug, we are led to ours by a Chicago street thug.
The American people blindly followed some unknown entity, believing he was some sort of messiah. Shades of Nazi Germany. Observing his charisma and the subsequent idol worship, I stated on this blog this man is a sociopath. As with any sociopath, we underestimate him at our peril. He is not stupid, nor is he in “over his head”. He knows exactly what he is doing as the American people, ever gullible, focus on his “ineptness”.
Our nation’s media is little more than his personal stenographers. Republicans concern themselves with “reaching across the aisle”.
His destruction of this country is deliberate. I remain convinced he is slowly establishing a dictatorship and rigging the next election to keep him in power. We’re too busy focusing on his “ineptness” to notice.
joan,
Really? The kid looks like he writes and spells better than most of our nation’s high school graduates. I bet his parents are in the Tea Party!
Joan – I’d love to talk to your second grade teacher and see if we can get a copy of your homework to see how you were dictionary perfect back then!
“Really? The kid looks like he writes and spells better than most of our nation’s high school graduates. I bet his parents are in the Tea Party!”
Did you actually look at the original scan of his paper? If most of our nation’s high school graduates spell again as “aigen” then we’re doomed.
I wouldn’t agree that most high school graduates can’t spell basic words – but I also wouldn’t say that this kid isn’t right on level for his age.
joan,
We are doomed. The functional literacy rate of Detroit is 49%, or maybe its 46%.
Wonder why Joan is on a PRO- “loving little ones” blog?
Truly this second grader has more common sense than some of the Voters of our
nation! We are destroying his/her future but electing some of the worst people into prime political positions. OBAMA elects Supreme Court justices and he has spent trillions of $$$$!
I have a first grader, and this second grader has pretty great handwriting, who cares about the spelling, we GET THE MESSAGE! It’s the thought behind that is a blessing and a WAKE up call.
My friend is a high school English teacher and she said that the majority of newspapers and magazines in the US write at no higher than a 5th grade level because the masses cannot read at a higher level.
To me, even with my dyslexia, it is hard to imagine – but there are a lot of kids who do not get a good education – and it is even worse for the older generations. I have a few cousins who never learned to read or write – at all – who are now in their 50s.
Very well put Elayne!
When I read Joan’s first comment, I at first thought it was a hilarious parody of what pro-choice people would say in response to this story.
Then I saw that the poster was Joan, and realized that she meant it seriously.
Anyone who thinks that most 2nd graders don’t just parrot the statements and opinions of their parents is fooling themselves.
A 2nd grader doesn’t possess let alone understand the information in relation to topics such as this.
Reality – have you ever hung out with a 2nd grader? They are intelligent and strong-willed.
Sure – the parents of this child are probably pro-life – but I say THANK YOU to them for educating their child on the wrongs of the world!
However, Alternate Reality, obama says precisely that it is okay to kill babies, and it IS a dumb law.
Indeed, Texas Gal!
A child doesn’t need to parrot their parent on this topic. A child is logically and naturally repulsed and terrified at the thought of people actually killing babies in the womb. Ask them.
What is scary is they so easily see the obvious and you…don’t. You lost that piece of your humanity along the way somewhere in life. Sad…
I stand by both my sentences. They are accurate.
Yes Amber, I have been around 2nd graders.
Your dislike of it does not make it ‘dumb law’ Texas Gal.
Sure Kris, then they grow up and learn and experience life and some of them will become pro-choice and some will even have abortions.
I recognise humanity for what it is and how it works.
As a mom of a 1st grader, a kid will not write something like this merely though the parents’ ideology. My husband and I also intentionally try to keep our political opinions neutral around our daughter. We want her to believe (once she’s old enough to understand) what SHE believes and not be indoctrinated by us. Yes, we are pro-life and conservative financially and socially, but we want her to be able to form her own opinions once she’s of an age where she starts caring about that stuff.
But, Joan, if the youngster were really parrotting propoganda, wouldn’t he have written that “we want to control women and keep them down..”? Why not? Oh, yea, because that’s YOUR right wing propoganda! LOL!!!!
This quote reminds me of learning to ski. An adult, I was gingerly moving at a snail’s pace, my skis pointed together in terror, and a little kid whoooshed by me all giggles and squeals. Joan, that rush of air on both sides of your head? That’s the youth of American rushing past you. LOL!!
Reality, I knew and understood what abortion was as an 8 year old so your assessment of this child is probably way off. He knows and understands that killing babies for our own selfish reasons is WRONG. Therefore he is smarter than you!
Joan, I was a hiring manager for many years. I can’t tell you how many high school graduates who came and filled out applications for my store and couldn’t follow directions or spell. And I’m talking about 18 year olds here. Not 7 year olds. He is 7. He misspelled some words. Big deal He is still learning. You probably want to kill him over it right? Obviously he isn’t as developed as you…that calls his personhood into question, amirite?
The best was a guy who wrote on his application that he worked in the meat department of a local supermarket. Under duties he wrote “rapes meats.” My assistant and I couldn’t stop laughing over that one.
People misspell words. I do it on here from time to time. But on an application? Wouldn’t you proofread? lol.
Yes, I am sure this child wasn’t coached AT ALL.
@Pookish, how on earth would parents know that a child would have to write an essay on this particular subject? As I’ve said before, I’m the mother of a 1st grader and I find out what they’ve been doing when the work comes home at the end of the day. Unless it’s homework, I don’t get to see my child’s work before she turns it in. I imagine that this is the same for other young kids as well.
Pookish, I was very verbally pro-life as a child. My parents were not verbally pro-life. This child “gets it”. Doesn’t mean he was coached. Children are naturally pro-life.
@Sydney, kids are worried about their own. :) I say this as someone who used to be pro-choice & voted for Clinton in ’92 & ’96. It wasn’t until I actually educated myself on abortion and found out what a horrible and brutal thing it is that I became pro-life. Heck, I even did a project for my speech class for Planned Parenthood. Before, it was mostly abstract and I would bet that most pro-choicers think of abortion as a procedure that makes the baby go ‘poof!’ No. That’s not how it goes.
I am sure this child was not coached. Perhaps he just understands what abortion is. Maybe he saw a truth truck and his parents had to explain what happened to the baby. Kids are very smart, some are much smarter than adults. Many of them can see a “broken baby” when they see truth trucks but many adults can’t stand those pictures because OF THE TRUTH it shows.
“He knows and understands that killing babies for our own selfish reasons is WRONG. Therefore he is smarter than you!” – subjective opinion :-)
“You probably want to kill him over it right?” – I might have to come up with a specific term for these little splats which do much more harm to your cause than good.
Show any 7-year-old a photo of an 8-week-old unborn child, and ask “would it ever be okay for someone to kill this?” Only pro-choicers would find a need to coach the child. Sometimes issues simply aren’t complicated, and children can often see through adult BS :D
There are certain things any good parent is going to teach their children from a young age…
About their beliefs. The rules of the house. How to behave in public.
Hitting your siblings is wrong. Don’t talk to strangers. Some parts of your body are private.
Oh and…MURDER IS WRONG!
Oh tish, Reality. I’m poking fun at you. As for Joan…. well she really does scare me. She really does seem to have it out for kids. And for people in general. I’ve been commenting here long enough to have read numerous times where she has GLOATED at someone’s death. Whether it be the little girl in China run over by a truck or baby Joseph or other stories that were shared… she has been downright giddy over death. Imo, she is deeply disturbed.
But in hindsight… well, this kid does get it, and you don’t Reality. How come? Its so obvious to children and yet hardened adults like you can’t see REALITY… that this is a human being that has been killed.
@Joan, my second grade boy’s writing is very similar to this one’s. I guess I’m a failure? But, at least he knows snuffing out the life of a pre-born human is evil. If he goes through life not winning school spelling bees who cares? I’d rather he and his siblings grow up and defend and protect the weakest among us.
My “subjective opinion” was in response to your “He knows and understands that killing babies for our own selfish reasons is WRONG”. The “Therefore he is smarter than you!” bit is more a case of conjecture :-)
No, he doesn’t ‘get it’ Sydney M.
He doesn’t possess let alone understand all the informtion, discussion and reasoning pertinent to abortion.
If what you and some others here claim of children is true then we wouldn’t have pro-choicers and people who have abortions.
What information is there to understand Reality? A human being is killed in an abortion. What “pertinent” information is needed? Life’s problems do not negate the fact that an innocent, defenseless human being is killed in an abortion.
Would you say to those who want Susan Smith to be punished for killing her boys “Well, you don’t have all the information and reasoning pertinent to to understanding why Susan Smith drowned her sons.” There IS no information and discussion and reasoning pertinent to what Susan Smith did that would in ANY way make what she did okay.
Same with abortion. I get that women have unplanned pregnancies. I get it that men are jerks sometimes and abandon them. I get that there are financial worries. I get that women want careers. I get it. I get it. I get it. This is no way negates the fact that an abortion kills a defenseless human being inside his or her mother’s womb and that that is wrong!
In regards to susan smith, the investigations and assessments conducted by experts in various fields did provide the required information and reasoning. And it was on this basis that she was punished.
You don’t seem to get it. The factors you mentioned and others are weighed against the termination of a developing fetus of the human species by the individual women concerned. In some cases the factors are deemed more ‘pertinent’.
My kids were probably about that age, maybe slightly younger, when they found out what abortion was. Up until that time, all they knew was that I had worked at a “pregnancy center” where mommies could come and get help when they needed things for their babies.
My inquisitive son asked a question which led to more questions and we somehow got to the topic of “why wouldn’t a person want her baby?”. And I explained some of the reasons I had heard from clients over the years. Then came “what would the lady do with her baby, Mom?”. And I told them she could raise the baby herself or give it to someone else who could, or she could have an abortion.
“What’s a ‘bortion’?”
“That means they don’t let the baby live. They kill the baby in the mommy’s tummy before it’s born.”
I’ll never forget the looks on my kids’ faces. Horror and an open-mouthed disbelief.
“Why would anyone DO that, Mommy? Why?!”
And that was our first discussion on abortion.
When I was in junior high school, we had an “Anything” project in our English class. One boy put in what he called a “protest” with the title “Why?”
One questions was: “Why do we kill babies before their birth?”
smart kid! heck he knows abortion is murder and plenty of grown women are clueless. OR in heavy denial. they know what they did.
This second grader shows more maturity and wisdom than many grown-up liberals. Specifically, I like his/her assessment of the abortion law. It shows brilliant acumen!
One doesn’t need an Ivy League degree.
I understand now why Jesus said “Thank you Father because you have kept these things from the wise and the learned and have revealed them to the little ones.”
I wish my 3rd grader had a s good hand-writing! LOL! We work on it every night. But we are from TN, one of those”unenlightened” states, so it may be awhile.
My 3 year old has no problem identifying, unpromtped, an image of an 8 week old unborn baby as “baby!”. I’m about that far along right now and was looking up pics to show him and, before I could he looks over my shoulder, points to the picture and says ‘baby, I push the baby mommy’ (make the thumbnail pic bigger). The reason why kids get it and so many adults don’t is because those extra years of indoctrination and brainwashing are required to turn a person from a human being who happily says “baby!” into an ‘intellectual’ who says “choice”.
No Reality. I get it! you don’t seem to get it. THERE IS NEVER A GOOD REASON TO KILL A CHILD. NEVER. Never ever ever ever ever.
Jespren, congratulations!!
I am 7 months (actually almost 8) with my second son. When I was 12 weeks I had a 12 week fetal model my son loved to play with. Gasp. Horror, right?
My son who is admittedly older than your son still is a little boy and he got it too. I said “This is what your brother or sister looks like right now.” He cradled it and rocked it and sang to it. Tiny and small but still undeniably a young human being.
”OBAMA elects Supreme Court justices and he has spent trillions of $$$$”
Uh, no. He submits, as does any president, his nominations and they are approved by the Senate. You can read the details here. And BTW, conservatives Roberts and Alito, when they were nominated by Bush II, stated that the right to an abortion is “stare decisis.”
And if your definition of “sociopath” does not comport with the DSM IV. You’re not a clinician, are you?
And why did you cite the literacy rate of Detroit? Is that because it’s an African-American community. Try googling literacy rates for poor white communities.
BTW, what school is this child attending? Is it a public school or private religious institution in which case there could be a strong anti-choice bias? But I do find it amusing that you folks are just gushing over this child’s wisdom when, if this child supported a woman’s right to an abortion, you would be talking about indoctrination by evil parents.
And Courtnay, you said that your neighbor is an Episcopalian priest. The Episcopal Church (a very tolerant institution), as you know, is a pro-choice (and gay friendly) church. Do you teach your kids that this man and his family aren’t real Christians? Just wondering…
Thanks Sydney, this will be my 3rd. During my 2nd, which I know I’ve mentioned on here before, my two kids couldn’t even wait til birth to start the sibling rivalry. My inutero daughter didn’t like my son leaning against my belly and would kick him repeatedly to try to get I’m off. He in turn would elbow her and push back. She kicked him so forcefully one day she just about knocked him from my lap!
The first thing he did when we told him there was a new little baby in my belly this time I cup both hands around my belly and shout “hello baby!” Then look up at me and say “we have to get the baby out”. We told him the baby was really small and needed to grow in my belly more, which was satisfactory to him. But he still shouts “hello baby!” And reminds me that there is a baby in there pretty frequently. And, adorable little thing that he is, has declared that if I can’t have a baby dragon in there, then he wants another baby sister.
Jespren that is so adorable :) hahah inutero rivalry!
Not only is my neighbor an Episcopal priest, but my kids go to an Episcopal school and I work at an Episcopal college & seminary. Most of the town is Episcopalian. This can mean they are truly spiritual; this can often mean they like cocktail parties on their lawns. There is an interesting tension, to be sure, but my kids know where their father and I stand on these issues. I will not back down. We drive 45 minutes each way to our own church and on Wednesdays< I take my 13 year old daughter to her Catechism class. She is in her second year, and will make her First Communion and Confirmation in May on the Feast of the Pentecost. I tell you all this because we have made an absolute commitment to her and my two sons to raise them as life-affirming Christians. It would be so easy to roll out of bed at 1:45 and get to an Episcopal church on Sunday. But that will never be who we are.
I don’t know if you missed this anecdote I’ve relay ed a couple of times here, but my neighbor (the priest) has a son and the son wondered why my daughter and I were going to drive all the way to DC for the March for Life. I explained that I didn’t think moms should have the legal right to kill their unborn babies. He looked at me, to quote hippie, with a Big Bucket of Duh. He got it. Now, soon, he will be indoctinated into a moral system where wrong is no longer wrong, and truth and goodness and love can be changed for your own purposes. I am sorry for him. He is a good boy. But that is not my family. The killing of the unborn will never be not murder, not injustice, not unChristlike.
I make no claims for the Episcopal Church as far as whether they are or are not real Christians. That’s up for God to decide. But I have to make judgments for myself and my family and we are never going to worship at a church where abortion is seen as a legitimate solution.
Courtnay, thank you for your sharing!
I think that one way to approach the issue of “really being a Christian” is to answer the question “what would Jesus do?”
Would Jesus support abortion? NO. So abortion is not a Christian “value”.
Would He support the death penalty? NO.
Would He support war? NO
What amazes me are people like Nancy Pelosi, who says she’s Catholic, but supports abortion to death. She does not meet the criteria to be Catholic.
Simply put with an example, she can say she’s an astrophysicist as much as she wants, but she is not since she doesn’t meet the basic criteria of years of studies and a degree in astrophysics.
There are simply very basic truths and values that one has to absolutely live by if one want to call him/herself Christian.
Protection of Life from conception to natural death is one of those!
Richard – there are a lot of people out there – in the public eye or not – claiming to be Christian but who cannot follow some of the more simple of God’s laws – yet milk it for all its worth to try to win an election, etc. So sad!
Amber Currie, said “there are a lot of people out there – in the public eye or not – claiming to be Christian but who cannot follow some of the more simple of God’s laws”
I agree.
We need to make people aware of the deception!
Take Ben Nelson. He ran as a “pro-life”. He didn’t behave as one and luckly for him, he has decided to retire before facing his pro-life constituents.
I believe the “what would Jesus do?” is a simple and effective test we can run on any of these politicians and candidates.
I always ask myself: “would Jesus do/say what this person is doing/saying?”
I can tell you that President Obama has failed that question every single time!
I agree Richard – Obama and other’s like him claim to be Christian but they simply cannot be – they may believe in a higher power – but they certainly aren’t following that higher power.
I wonder why cc put the phrase gay friendly in parentheses? If they find a gay gene, she’ll be happy to escort all the women who want to snuff their gay pre-born children. And we’ll still be there, supporting our CPCs and telling moms to choose life for their beautiful, culturally diverse little babies
You cannot be Christian and support abortion law, its purveyors, or its candidates. If you do, then something else is your higher power.But it ain’t God.
ninek, to emphisize your comment. Life is Life regardless if it’s biologically, culturally, geographically, etc. and it’s worth protecting at any stage, for any reason, first and foremost because it DOESN’T belong to us.
We have received it as a gift in the image of God.
“If they find a gay gene, she’ll be happy to escort all the women who want to snuff their gay pre-born children.”
I’m happy to escort any woman who has made a decision about terminating a pregnancy for whatever reason. And BTW, seeing that it’s conservative, fundamentalist Christians and Catholics who see homosexuality as an “intrinsic evil,” I suspect that some of those who are aborting a “gay fetus” wouldn’t be from the pro-choice side of the aisle. There is a high correlation between being liberal, pro-choice, and pro-gay.
“You cannot be Christian and support abortion law, its purveyors, or its candidates. If you do, then something else is your higher power.But it ain’t God.”
Once again, the religious intolerance of the anti-choice movement shows itself in this statement which asserts that only “pro-life” Christianity (and Orthodox Judaism) is the “truth.” Once again, the “pro-life” movement demonstrates that, for the most part, it consists of religious zealots not unlike those who perpetrated the Inquisition and the Crusades. And that’s why this country will never be totally “pro-life” thanks to folks like me and Courtnay’s neighbor. And here’s the thing Courtnay, there is no such thing as a “true church” despite what you are taught. (And I am a product of 12 years of Catholic indoctrination).
I think it is just parents influence, not really big deal .
medias does not miss such an opportunity to make a propaganda.
CC, from your post what you reveal is a complete lack of understanding and knowlege of Jesus. Whatever happened to you at the hands of Christians that turned you into such a God-hating, death loving person—please let me be the firsdt to apologize to you for them. We Christians are going to get it wrong a lot of the time, but don’t look to us, look to our leader, Jesus. He is the true refelction of the mercy and love that’s available to all.
Intolerance is, by the way, a tricky word. I am intolerant of many things. Jesus himself was intolerant of certain things. I bet you have your own intolerances. But as for myself and my fellow Prolifers here, what we are intolerant of is the murder of innocent children. You can scream and cry and hate and try to block us, but you know you can never silence us. Because what we are fighting for is righteous.
I don’t have anything to say about the inquisition or the Crusades. I don’t even attend a Catholic Church, though I have great respect for it. What I can say is killing innocent children is wrong. It always will be, it always was. Call me intolerant. Make me a tshirt AND a button. You betcha.
Justin, do you have a child?
The abortion fan who calls herself cc writes: “I suspect that some of those who are aborting a “gay fetus” wouldn’t be from the pro-choice side of the aisle. There is a high correlation between being liberal, pro-choice, and pro-gay.”
What we have here is a prime example of how abortion advocacy affects one’s understanding of the English language: pro-LIFE people are the ones who don’t get abortions and pro-CHOICE-to-kill-babies are the folks who do get abortions. If you are walking into an abortion clinic today, you are pro-choice, not pro-life.
You see, pro-life people don’t counsel pregnant moms, “Oh, you should definitely give birth to your baby… unless he might grow up to be a political liberal or unless she dyes her hair a color you don’t like when she’s a teen.. or unless” See, people who support pregnant women actually believe that each child has the right to his or her own life, and, wow this is going to really floor you: each child has the right to be born so that he or she can have a chance to grow up and even sometimes disagree with his or her parents! What a concept!!
cc is also a prime example that religious indoctrination doesn’t always work, so pro-choice moms out there beware: that kid you let live might grow up to be pro-life! The horror!!!
And to all my gay friends: I guarantee I won’t counsel moms to kill the friends you haven’t even met yet!
Interesting that CC thinks those of us pro-lifers would be for aborting a “gay fetus”, but she/he (sorry, don’t know your gender) and the pro-aborts are for aborting those fetuses that could have some type of disability or genetic abnormality like Downs - cuz these kids just aren’t “perfect”. You said it perfectly, ninek.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/18/ex-abortion-clinic-employees-women-are-pushed-into-abortions/
“ the pro-aborts are for aborting those fetuses that could have some type of disability or genetic abnormality like Downs - cuz these kids just aren’t “perfect”
Actually, it’s more about bringing a child into the world who will face tremendous obstacles and, given the fraying social safety net, a quality of life that will be onerous. And for low income folks, the lack of a social safety net is a major consideration for aborting medically compromised fetuses.
But once again, you folks show your humanity in wanting to force women to give birth. And yes, while you think a disabled child is a “gift,” not all people feel that way. Given the cutback in funding for children, what do you think will happen to those kids whose parents are unable to care for them? Are you that naive to think that they will be adopted? And if not, how well do you think they will thrive in state orphanages. Oh wait, there isn’t enough money for orphanages. Oh well, the church will provide. Right? At least now we have a choice.
And once again, those who are the most vehement critics of the “gay agenda” and who HATE gays are right wing conservatives who, one suspects, are “pro-life.” Pro-life and homophobia seem to go quite well together.
“See, people who support pregnant women actually believe that each child has the right to his or her own life, ”
And we believe that women have the right to determine the outcomes of their pregnancies. We believe that the rights of women supersede rights of fetuses who, under current law, don’t have rights separate from the women who are carrying them. We don’t believe that women should be forced to breed. You do.
Yep, nothing says “live and let live” like abortion, huh c? Cuz, y’know, killing babies is super tolerant!
“We don’t believe that women should be forced to breed.” BUT you do believe babies should be forced to die.
Doesn’t everyone deserve a chance–pre-born or not? At conception all the DNA is there. Abortion is not a procedure that makes the baby go ‘poof!’ It’s a brutal thing.
PS: I say this as someone who used to be pro-choice until I educated myself on the topic.
I was brought into a world with tremendous obstacles and I wasn’t killed for it.