Life Links 4-16-12
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- In Pennsylvania, a 14-year-old boy has been found guilty for killing his father’s fiancee and her unborn child when he was 11:
Lawrence County Judge John Hodge found the now-14-year-old Jordan Brown delinquent, the juvenile court equivalent of a guilty verdict, in the deaths of 26-year-old Kenzie Houk and her unborn child. - In an attempt to attack Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman, RH Reality Check’s Robin Marty ends up providing evidence for what pro-lifers have been saying about Planned Parenthood for years:
There’s only one little problem with Heineman’s strategy. Planned Parenthood doesn’t provide prenatal care in any of its Nebraska clinics.So then Planned Parenthood in Nebraska doesn’t provide any services for pregnant women except abortion, correct?
- The New York Times has a piece by Susan Heath discussing her abortion in 1978. She fails to understand that her experience with abortion in 1978 would closely mirror someone’s experience in 2012 if they were both having abortions in New York. As usual, the actual abortion is completely glossed over. I found this bit interesting:
Two years later, I’m driving upstate by myself. I look down and think that if I hadn’t had the abortion, there would be a baby seat next to me with a small child in it, resting comfortably, knowing it would always be safe because I was in charge. It might be a girl — I would have liked to have a daughter in the family mix.But I’m not grieving over the absence; I don’t have and never have had a single qualm about not bringing that child into the world. I know many women who have grieved greatly over the children they decided not to have, and I am thankful to have been spared that agonizing sadness of guilt and regret.
This seems rather common among some pro-choice post-abortive women. They say they have no regrets but then mention thinking about what would have been, the child they would have had, etc.
- A man in the United Arab Emirates is on trial for allegedly attacking his pregnant girlfriend and forcing abortion pills on her:
The cleaner told prosecutors that when she found out she was pregnant she asked the driver to marry her, but he refused. He then ordered her to abort the baby, and she refused.She said he then beat her all over her body with a wooden stick before leaving. When he returned he had some tablets which he ordered her to take. When she refused, he assaulted her again.
Brandishing a knife, he then told her he would kill her before shoving six tablets down her throat and two others into her genitalia, which caused her to start bleeding.
[Photo by Cory Marchand, via outkube.com]
I clicked over to RH to read the article, brief as it is, and I noticed their little fund-raiser graphic on the sidebar. They’ve had that graphic up for a while, but I realized that three of the pill things have been pushed open in the picture. Has it always been like that, or are they changing it to reflect progress towards their funding goal? Or is the red part meant to signify progress toward the goal?
Either way, given the amount of time since Turner dropped them, if either is reflective of the amount of donations they’ve received, that site is in serious trouble. Does anyone know if that’s the case?
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@RH Reality Check
Gun meet foot, foot meet mouth.
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As far as Susan Heath is concerned, the fact that she’s calling this her child, then bringing the death of that child up years later is indicative of one thing – serious denial.
The Susan Heaths of this world condemn the Susan Smiths but only because they didn’t use an abortionist. Otherwise – there is no difference between the two.
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Hey Chris, the RI sonogram bill doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. Despite the presence of the Catholic Church, we are pro-choice. Your pathetic crew doesn’t seem to have an impact. How sad….
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Hey CC,
You never answered my last post to you.
If your mommy had told you she D&C’d the wrong one, and she decided you weren’t the “wanted” one, would you have gone off to play in traffic?
Since your father wasn’t wanted, should he have done the same?
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“If your mommy had told you she D&C’d the wrong one, and she decided you weren’t the “wanted” one, would you have gone off to play in traffic?Since your father wasn’t wanted, should he have done the same”
Actually, my father attempted suicide on a number of occasions but thanks for reminding me. If my mother told me that I wasn’t wanted, I suppose it would have damaged me in some respects. But that wasn’t the case, was it! We could do the could have, should have game but it doesn’t mean squat. The important thing is that American women should be able to have their children if and when they want.
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Hey CC, if my mom had told me I wasn’t wanted it would have hurt me but I would have known that I still had worth. I know my worth comes from the fact that I am a human being, not from my mother’s emotions towards me. I would know that I always deserved to live and still deserve to live whether my parents wanted me, planned me, loved me, could afford me…or not. But see you…you think children are only worth something if wanted, planned, loved. So if your mom didn’t want you, how could you possibly think you had any right to exist? To think otherwise would be highly hypocritical of you.
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Yeah, Sydney. This is the second time CC’s been asked this question, and the second time she’s completely deflected.
Nobody asked you if you’d be damaged, we asked you if you wouldn’t have any worth. Like, since your grandma didn’t want your dad, was he justified in trying to off himself? Did he really have no worth? Why won’t you answer and stop with all the deflecting!
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CC says:
The important thing is that American women should be able to have their children if and when they want.
I agree with this statement. But remember that when a woman is pregnant she already has a child, it just hasn’t been born yet. The important thing is that American women should NOT be able to kill their children if and when they want.
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Did he really have no worth? Why won’t you answer and stop with all the deflecting
How bout stopping with all the inane semantics. Worth, like art, is not an objective concept. What I consider worthwhile might be very different from what you do. Insurance companies ascribe levels of ”worth” to both people and possessions. As far as my father, the only “worth” worth discussing is how he viewed himself (which is where therapy begins and ends) and he didn’t, as an unwanted child, feel he had any. Hence the suicides.
If this doesn’t meet with you strict standards of debate, deal with it. I’ve said all that needs to be said.
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The important thing is that American women should NOT be able to kill their children if and when they want
If you’re referring to fetuses, that’ s your view which is not universally held by the law, the medical community, and many faith communities.
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Humans have no objective worth, CC?
Well, there you go.
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And moral relativism rears its VERY ugly head yet again.
There IS objective absolute good and objective absolute evil in this world. If you can’t see that, guess which one you are.
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CC: “Hey Chris, the RI sonogram bill doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. Despite the presence of the Catholic Church, we are pro-choice. Your pathetic crew doesn’t seem to have an impact. How sad….”
So you’re saying your meat rots regardless of the salt?
It’s either lousy salt or you people have some seriously funky rot.
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Guess what CC, your view is also “not universally held by the law, the medical community, and many faith communities.”
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Guess what CC, your view is also “not universally held by the law, the medical community, and many faith communities.”
Given that your movement isn’t going to “convert” those who are pro-choice, I guess we’ll just have to see what the courts and state legislatures (and as long as Roe is in place, there will continue to be court challenges to anti-choice legislation) decide on these matters. Unless you folks are going to actually start a civil war about this. If so, you could have little fetus emblems for your uniforms…
And Rasqual, are you saying that the Catholic Church is salt? That does sound about right given it’s ability to, if used to excess, harden the arteries that affect basic reason!
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Gosh, if my church taught that there is no objective moral truth, I’d run like hell to the nearest exit.
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