Abortion clinic escorts participate in online Q&A job forum
Last month we were approached by one of the co-founders of the website Jobstr to participate in their listings to explain escorting. Their website is designed to “Ask people anything about their jobs.” When you participate, you write a brief explanation of what your job is. Then members of their website ask you questions and vote on your answers….
I have to admit, I was reluctant. I was concerned we would have a lot of antis commenting or asking questions. Spending the day deleting “dead baby” posts wasn’t something I was eager to tackle…
This was the start of a very interesting project. I was so wrong and I am glad cooler heads prevailed. We participated and did not receive one negative comment or question from antis….
The 19 questions we received were respectful and some of them made us think a lot about a clear answer. The reader voting also let us know what questions generated the most interest.
~ Abortion clinic escort Servalbear, describing the experience of participating in an online forum at Jobstr, where readers send in questions about different people’s jobs, via Every Saturday Morning, February 9
Submit your questions for abortion clinic escorts here.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Jill, I left a comment asking if she thought her job was an example of injustice, since it involved adults Vs. defenseless unborn children, but my question was deleted.
I guess she’s only accepting questions that she likes!
i dont understand. Are these paid postions? I thought deathscorts were volunteers.
phillymiss, I thought the same thing.
I just asked the question. Let’s see what she answers. I’ll keep you posted.
I asked a question. I do not think she will like it.
:3
xalisae, let’s see if she will delete it.
She deleted my first question.
She just answered my question:
Q
Is your position paid? I thought you were volunteers.
Asked by ricc on 02/11/2013
A
No, the position is not paid. We are all volunteers.
I want to know what they do if the woman WANTS to talk to pro-lifers. Isn’t it her job to just hustle them into the clinic? money money money you know.
Oh boo…reading all the questions. Did you know that abortion is such a stigmatized word that it makes it HEAVY? I mean its just a darn shame that killing your baby is sooooo stigmatized. If only we wouldn’t stigmatize child killing the word “abortion” could be so light and airy and giggly!
“Ask people anything about their jobs”. How does it feel to have a job where the term “dead baby” keeps popping up? That would make a Mafia hit man feel queasy enough to look for another line of work.
Yeah. She deleted it. lulz.
“A lot of ‘antis’ “. Anti -what? Anti- BABY-KILLING?
Pro-aborts always try to put the negative spin on what WE (pro-lifers) are.
As if it’s a negative thing to be AGAINST maiming/killing women and babies.
Of course, when you’re FOR that, everything about your world is “negative”.
If it’s a JOB, you’re getting paid for it-
otherwise it’s known as “volunteer work”.
A couple abortion clinic workers did an IAMA on reddit a couple weeks ago, they mostly ignored pro-life questions and pro-lifers got downvoted to oblivion for the most part. I don’t think it’s even work putting in a question to these folks, they are obviously there to preach to a choir.
I asked what do thy do if the woman WANTS to talk to the protesters? THe answer was: oh we let them.
I call BS!!!! I’ve SEEN male escorts (as well as female) get in front of the “client” and say “Don’t talk to them!!” and one time a lady said to her escort “Would you shut up? I’m trying to hear what they have to say!” So that is a load of BS. They stand back and let pro-lifers offer help to these women and inform them of fetal development? I think not.
I tried to be careful with how I worded my question.
‘Womensrights’: “I’ve heard that women can become distressed/emotional when leaving the abortion clinic after a procedure is completed. Do clinic workers also offer encouragement to exiting patients?”
“We are present to support people and create space for them to be empowered while accessing reproductive healthcare.”
HAHA, yeah, I’m sure the women walking into her abortion mill feel super empowered due to her presence. They then hop up on the abortion table, give the abortionist a high five when the kid is vacuumed out, then head to their womyn’s studies class to keep up the empowerment.
My favorite was that the escorts “have had prayers directed at us”, in the context of harassment and intimidation. You would think they were describing a physical weapon! Now, I genuinely believe that it is a bad idea to shout at people (what good is it going to do anyway?) - but prayers?! Lawdy, what is the world coming to! LOL
Here’s a question if someone wants to submit it: : )
Can you tell me when the baby’s heart starts to beat? What about when the baby develops arms, legs, fingers, toes, that sort of thing? What if a woman changes her mind while she’s on the table? When is it too late to change your mind?
Julie, I worked at a clinic. At no point do we force or manipulate women to have an abortion. We realize that woman put a LOT of though into their choice to have an abortion. Some women however do change their minds. In fact, we would counsel every woman and explain to them the entire abortion process, show them accurate pictures of an abortion at their stage in pregnancy if they asked, we also asked them while they were alone with the counselor if they were being pressured or forced in any way to have an abortion. If they said yes, then we ended right there and told them we would not conitnue with the procedure. I remember a specific doctor asking every woman while she was on the table if she was sure this was what she needed to do, and that she was free to change her mind now but once the procedure was started there was no turning back. It was my job to hold womens hands, provide support, clean her up, walk her to the recovery room and basically be an aborion doula. We treated women with care, dignity, respect and compassion. It was a hard job but my love and passion went to the women who were more important than the fetus/embryo they were carrying. Also, I doubt your questions to this woman were answered because the prolife side tend to tbe very black and white, narrow minded and not open to any belief that they dont agree with. Sometimes its not appropriate to try and agrue with your side, or explain ourselves in vain because we know it wont get us anywhere.
I used to escort at several clinics. It was very rewarding doing so.
Merit said: It was very rewarding doing so.
What was your reward, Merit?
It was a hard job but my love and passion went to the women who were more important than the fetus/embryo they were carrying.
See…I just can’t understand that mindset. That a mother is (or that she thinks she is) more important than her child. And that thinking that is somehow a good thing. To the point that it’s a-okay for that child to be killed because mamma wants it to be so. I never want to be so “open-minded” that I can accept that kind of behavior with a shrug.
”I never want to be so “open-minded” that I can accept that kind of behavior with a shrug.”
There’s an old saying that goes something like ‘if you’re too open-minded, your brain falls out’, this might apply here.
Richard, knowing that women would be harassed less as I took them into the clinic.
Yeah. We’d hate to see any “harassment” lead to a child who gets a stay of execution.
Merit, in years of praying in front of abortion clinics I have never ever seen any pro-lifer harassing any woman. Actually prolfers are very gentle and kind with women.
If anything, I have seen Planned Parenthood escorts elbowing in conversations between women and counselers on the side of the car and yelling to move in the parking lot and don’t obstruct the entrance.
So, your feeling of reward based on alleged harassment is mistaken and empty. Sorry!
Richard, you obviously weren’t at the clinics I was at. No mistake at all. I was also at Corpus Christi years ago when Rex Moses and his merry band of clinic blockers used to harass the clinic. That changed when three escorts from Dallas came down to teach us new techniques. Moses and his ilk never blocked the clinic again after that Saturday.
Perception is everything, of course. Keep on living your fantasies.
Xalise, you dont have a CLUE. When a woman decides for herself that she is going to become a mother, then she is obligated to put her baby and her babys needs above her own. In my opinion, while she is pregnant, her health and life are the first priority If there was a health concern, accident, whatever and their had to be a decsion of who to save, the WOMAN. because she is already here and may have children and family who need her. If she goes on to have other children, those childrens lives are also being saved in a way. The womans needs and health comes first, period. THen when the baby is born, the roles are reversed.
We empowered women where I worked. We empowered them to make what schoice was best for THEM, we refered them to adoption lawyers and even CARE net sometimes. We are open minded and respectful of a womans own choice, unlike you who think you know whats best. Guess what? having a baby is or carrying a pregnacy is not always the best choice and that not for you to decide. The terroists who ‘pray’ and harrass women at clinics and make the workers and patients feel threatened have no right to be there. go pray somewhere else. If your god is so divine and pwerful, yours prayers will go answered wherever you are.
Merit, do your techniques involve elbowing and pushing aside pro-lifers talking to women who stop and accept info? And 3 escorts at each entrance urging cars in that stop to accept literature?
I guess you will have the reward you deserve, whatever that is.
However, keep in mind, that you cannot stop peaceful prayer outside your clinics. It will reach inside the walls!
Sarah,
I’ve mentioned this before: I AM AN ATHEIST.
And ya know what? YOU have no clue. You have NO CLUE why I “harass” other women outside of the clinic. But let me tell you:
I didn’t even know what abortion was before I was 20 years old. My parents never told me about it. I’m the oldest of 6 living children in my family. I’ve watched the process many times, and my parents never weighed the lives of my siblings any less than mine just because I was born and they weren’t yet. The one time the process was interrupted was because my brother had died due to genetic disease at around 6 months in utero. We all wept and mourned him, even my father. Three kids in my high school graduating class had gotten pregnant-they had BABIES instead of killings, abortion was never discussed amongst my friends. I didn’t know about abortion until I became pregnant by my abusive partner and he said I should get one.
Even though I had nowhere to stay, had to leave my job because of my pregnancy, and was with a man who told me that if I didn’t abort our daughter he’d kill himself-my life was NEVER worth more than hers. In a life-threatening situation, if the pregnancy is endangering the life of the mother due to a medical condition and the choice MUST be made, it is understandable to save the life of the mother rather than let both people die. But a mother having her child killed in utero is not “empowerment”-it’s reducing us to animals that eat our young to survive. It’s NOT necessary, and it is NOT something to respect.
A child in utero is just as “already here” as his or her mother is. You can decide to become a parent all you please, but once you are pregnant-like it or not-you are a a parent already to at least one child. Choosing to have that child executed so that you can be a better parent to other children is just insane, because a GOOD PARENT wouldn’t choose to kill one of their children over any others.
I don’t think I always know what’s best. I just know that getting killed is not best for any child, I know because even though having my daughter killed 10 years ago when it would’ve been legal might’ve been more advantageous FOR ME, but it would’ve been the worst possible thing FOR HER.
Thank you xalisae for your straight forward and deep sharing.
Any time. I love sharing the story, and look forward to the day my daughter can join me in sharing our story together. She wants very much to help children like her to live.
Richard, no. But if the prolifers blocked the clinic doors, we did sometimes ease the patients into or out of the clinic. The prolifers had no business on the property of the clinic. Of course, we had to play the game with the police because criminal trespass required warnings first before arrests could be made.
Merit, you said “ But if the prolifers blocked the clinic doors, we did sometimes ease the patients into or out of the clinic.”
How did the “prolifers” you are talking about “block” the clinic doors? What did they do? Did they stand in the doorway? Did they touch the clients? Did they chain the doors? Can you describe?
Also, your fellow escort that posted the “job Q&A” said, and I can confirm because I have seen time and again, that you only escort in not out.
My guess is that the abortion business doesn’t care much when and if the women come out of the clinic. As a matter of fact some abortionists don’t even answer their phone calls from their clients after the abortion even when is a matter of life and death (see Leroy Carhart).
Merit, are you still there?
I haven’t received your response to my questions. I am interested.
How did the “prolifers” you are talking about “block” the clinic doors? What did they do? Did they stand in the doorway? Did they touch the clients? Did they chain the doors? Can you describe?
Thank you
I’m not in favor of abortion. I’m so horrified by just hearing the name. I believe that proper punishment should be implemented to those clinics and persons who don’t follow correct procedures.
I believe that proper punishment should be implemented to those clinics and persons who don’t follow correct procedures.
That’s funny. I believe proper punishment should be implemented to even those clinics and persons who DO “follow correct procedures” to kill a child in utero. If something so wrong can ever be deemed “correct” at all.
Oh wow. i missed all the fun on here last week. Nuts. Well Merit. Well Sarah. You seem to struggle with basic biology. Let me help. Did you know that the womb is not another dimension? The child is “here” as soon as the child exists. Just because the child is inside a womb under a layer of the woman’s fat and skin doesn’t mean the child is floating in limbo in deep space. Big bucket of duh here.
Did you know species reproduce after their own kind? So humans reproduce other humans. That “fetus” you are helping to destroy is a human! A living human! So the issue then becomes “Is the human fetus a person.”
I am one of those crazy people who thinks ALL humans are people. To think otherwise is to align yourself with the likes of nazis who thought Jews, though human, are not people. And the white slave owners who thought blacks, though human, were not people. We know what history says about the nazis and slave owners. History will condemn you too Merit and Sarah.
If you could see how abortion has hurt my friends you wouldn’t stand there feeling so smug. My friends curse the escorts who ushered them into the death chamber. Are you there to wipe their tears? no. You walk them into the clinic to kill their babies but you’re not there every year on the anniversary of the abortion. You’re not there to comfort them on the would-be birthday of their dead baby. You want to help women? Offer them money, friendship, love, support etc…when they face crisis pregnancies. Like I have and do. Don’t offer to kill their babies. That isn’t helping them.
“mother having her child killed in utero is not “empowerment”-it’s reducing us to animals that eat our young to survive.”
I’ve never seen it written so truthfully X thank you for your testimony!
I am so sad for some of the comments I have seen here, and for the anger in the words of some of the prolifers. At the 40th anniversary memorial (I hate to call it an anniversary) I felt I should be doing more but I feel such great tenderness toward, well, toward the mothers who have had abortions and regret them, and the ones who don’t. How will anyone’s mind ever change without love and tenderness? And many are tender. Corrie ten Boom’s sister, even in a Nazi concentration camp had great love and compassion for the guards. Can we do less?
Sarah
I bet if those women knew about fetal development and the resources available for them (like the ones that Crisis Pregnancy centers can provide or give them information about) they wouldn’t have aborted.
Very few women make this choice without looking at the facts first. Of course when a clinic shows them a black dot and says that’s what’s in the uterus, they are being lied to. What’s so bad about showing them an ultrasound? Is it because they might actually see a HUMAN BEING and CHANGE THEIR MIND?
A smart sensible person knows there are TWO patients in a pregnancy and the baby is the one that does NOT GET A CHOICE