Muslim cleric recommends burkas for babies to avoid molestation
Babies are sex objects? If not, why would they have to cover up? And don’t think this is just in Muslim countries. I took the above photo [click to enlarge] on Madison Avenue.
~ Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs, remarking on the recent controversy of a Muslim cleric declaring a fatwa that all “female babies to be fully covered by wearing the face veil.” Quoting Al Arabiya News, February 3:
A Saudi cleric has called for all female babies to be fully covered by wearing the face veil, commonly known as the burka, citing reports of little girls being sexually molested.
In a TV interview on the Islamic al-Majd TV, which seems to date back to mid-last year, Sheikh Abdullah Daoud, stressed that wearing the veil will protect baby girls. The Sheikh tried to back his assertion with claims of sexual molestation against babies in the kingdom, quoting unnamed medical and security sources….
Sheikh Mohammad al-Jzlana, former judge at the Saudi Board of Grievances, told Al Arabiya that Dauod’s ruling was denigrating to Islam and Shariah and made Islam look bad.
[HT: Laura Loo]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Did he also declare that people stop molesting babies in the kingdom? Just an idea …
If you’re lusting after little girls, then it’s the little girl’s fault, right? Got it. Makes total sense. /sarc
*sarcasm alert!*
Not too suprising that the photo was taken in New York. After all, we cannot oppress people by telling them to refrain from sexual activity. No, we must give the teen girls all kinds of drugs and doses of hormones instead. Men can’t be expected not to act out on infants, according to Daoud. Teens, men, people of all ages simply cannot be oppressed. Children are sexual beings, according to Planned Parenthood’s brochures and web pages. See how eerily similar the libertines are to certain Muslims? Of course, the gals from “StopPatriarchy.org” won’t say a word.
We may only try to control our behavior when we eat gluten-free bread and stop using plastic grocery bags! We must not ever try to control sexual impulses ever, or else THE PATRIARCHY!
OK, I’m done being sarcastic now. Daoud proves idiots come in all shapes, sizes, and beliefs.
Like a baby is gonna let you put a veil over her little face and LEAVE it there?
Yea…’cause babies just LOVE to have their faces covered up *SARCASM -OF COURSE*
You know what actually really bugs me about this? Take two babies and dress them in a white onsie and you’ll never be able to tell which is female and which is male. It’s not until kids are well into school age that *their bodies* (minus the groin area) are noticably male or female. We make guesses made on social cues like jewlery, colors, clothing, hair style, etc. Putting an infant girl in a face veil doesn’t ‘protect them’, they’re identical to males snuggled up on mom or strapped into a stroller, they aren’t getting targeted by the look of their face. Putting an infant girl in a burka just says “look! Girl!”.
Just read the article about the Islamic father that savagely raped and beat his own 5 year old daughter to death. Because he doubted her virginity.
I wonder if a burka would have protected her from that monster?
Worse than that, Jespren–anyone who has ever spent time around babies knows how wiggly they are, right? So what if one of these shrouded little girls dares to wiggle her arm free of the cover and displays her NAKED arm? Will there be the same “indecency” penalties (ie death by stoning) for female babies as for grown women?
I am so SO glad to be a woman living in America! For my daughter’s sake too!
Sheikh Mohammad al-Jzlana, former judge at the Saudi Board of Grievances, told Al Arabiya that Dauod’s ruling was denigrating to Islam and Shariah and made Islam look bad.
That’s funny. I thought Mohammed marrying/having intercourse with an 8/9 year old girl did that.
So what if one of these shrouded little girls dares to wiggle her arm free of the cover and displays her NAKED arm?
Oh heaven forbid.
This kind of thing makes me think of women in the Victorian era who weren’t allowed to expose their ankles or the men would supposedly go CRAZY. Only this is MUCH worse. Dauod is basically assuming pedophilia and rape are rampant throughout the Muslim world.
Kel, if that is an assumption Dauod is making (about rape and pedophilia being rampant), then his assumption is correct. Rape and pedophilia IS rampant. My heart hurts for those little kids. No wonder our soldiers come back from war having PTSD. They know this crap is going on and they are silenced in the name of political correctness.
I seriously can’t stand the hypocrisy in a lot of Islamic sects. Females are precious and need to be cared for… unless they don’t wear a burqa and are abused, then it’s totally their fault and not the molesters. Homosexuality is bad, except when you buy little boys as sex slaves, then it’s totally not gay and not bad at all.
I wonder if Islamic men who support this realize what disgusting monsters they make men out to be, like we can’t handle seeing anything at all without going all rapey on everyone.
The real war on women, Ms. Fluke.
“Rape and pedophilia IS rampant. My heart hurts for those little kids. No wonder our soldiers come back from war having PTSD. They know this crap is going on and they are silenced in the name of political correctness.”
Rape and pedophilia is rampant in the Middle East. Rape and pedophilia is rampant in the US as well, it’s not like we are better. We’re better with blaming victims less than they do for the most part.
Unbelievable!
What really creeps me out is these cover yourself up laws, whether it’s against women or small children, is that’s exactly how rapists and pedophiles think. They try to shame the victim and keep them them quiet by telling them it was their fault and that they caused the abuse by how they dressed or acted. And this dude thinks that it’s a good idea to codify rapist’s excuses into his religion? That’s really screwed up.
The little girl in the photo is not wearing a burqa or anything close to one. She’s wearing a khimar on her head, what usually gets termed “a hijab” in the West.
The rest of her clothes look like normal toddler clothes. She even has her arm exposed, and nobody has sliced it off for her “immodesty” – maybe these Muslims are not cut from the same cloth as others?
If you watch this film about Russian Orthodox Christians in South Carolina, (yeah, you read that right) you can see young girls veiled with little “babushka”-style scarves or kerchiefs. Someone call Pamela Gellar!
Clarice. It’s not about the clothes. I don’t think many people have a problem with Muslim women wearing whatever clothing they feel respects their religion’s modesty codes, I don’t see that as any different from Christian women dressing modestly to respect their religion.
It’s the intent that people are complaining about. What this man said about little baby girls needing to be covered up to prevent sexual abuse, removing the responsibility of assaults onto the victim and not the abuser. This contributes to the culture of victim blaming and excusing rapists. Just like Christian standards of modesty are a personal choice in a lot of cases, but when they are used to blame rape victims (“If she hadn’t been wearing that miniskirt, she wouldn’t have been attacked!”) they are problematic.
And I really don’t know how anyone can deny that a lot of the conservative Islamic sects are very pro-victim blaming and the way they view women’s clothing is a part of that. It doesn’t mean all Muslims are bad or support this, I am sure it horrifies plenty of decent Muslims. It just means that it’s a problematic area and needs to be corrected.
What really creeps me out is these cover yourself up laws, whether it’s against women or small children, is that’s exactly how rapists and pedophiles think. They try to shame the victim and keep them them quiet by telling them it was their fault and that they caused the abuse by how they dressed or acted.
Yes.
And if this crap is rampant in the Middle East and in Islam, telling somebody to cover up their infant baby girl is NOT going to solve anything.
And I really don’t know how anyone can deny that a lot of the conservative Islamic sects are very pro-victim blaming and the way they view women’s clothing is a part of that. It doesn’t mean all Muslims are bad or support this, I am sure it horrifies plenty of decent Muslims.
I recall a video I watched about a year ago in which a woman was brutally whipped publicly in the street by several men because she dared to wear pants UNDER her burka. Sickening.
“I recall a video I watched about a year ago in which a woman was brutally whipped publicly in the street by several men because she dared to wear pants UNDER her burka. Sickening.”
Yeah, I have a Muslim friend (actually, she’s the only Muslim I have ever met) who grew up in the Middle East. She told me that gender segregation and the way little boys are raised to blame women for anything sexual is the main reason she left, because she wanted her son to be raised with western values, which she describes as closer to true Islamic values than repressive gender norms.
I agree with Clarice that this picture doesn’t really have much to do with the absolutely outrageous story attached. Muslims are not the only women who cover their heads and I don’t really think that a child dressing in the cultural custom of her parents is offensive. I see little Orthodox Jewish girls running around all the time in their skirts/tights; in my friend’s neighborhood I would see little girls with kerchiefs over their hair.
I don’t know much about this part of Islam but I do believe that young girls aren’t REQUIRED to cover their hair. I have seen lots of daughters of Muslim parents going around uncovered, personally. I am uncomfortable with the idea of covering a toddler girl’s hair up, mostly for practical reasons, but I am also uncomfortable with the idea of piercing a baby girl’s ears, which a lot of American parents do. Bikinis on little girls also freak me out – I am actually way more comfortable with little girls just wearing bottoms, than wearing a top that suggests there is something…to be covered. Basically there are lots of things that make me go “er” and a light headscarf on a toddler is not the worst of the ones I see on a regular basis just going around my day.
An actual recommendation or even suggestion that putting baby girls in burqas might stop them from being molested is disgusting and absurd, and also beyond the scope of an individual parent opting to have a scarf over her baby’s head for whatever reason. Just IMO.
For all we know, maybe the little girl just wanted to dress like her mommy.
If the photographer sought permission from the girl’s mother to take the picture, that would have been a good opportunity to ask why her daughter was veiled. I’m not Muslim, but I know I would be very upset if I found out my little child had been photographed without my permission for purposes of making perverse suggestions about our family and faith.
This is really not something I would have my own child wear, but I think it is better to want to preserve a daughter’s modesty than fall into the opposite extreme, which would be teaching her to flaunt body parts she doesn’t even have yet.
Just read the article about the Islamic father that savagely raped and beat his own 5 year old daughter to death. Because he doubted her virginity.
I wonder if a burka would have protected her from that monster?
Carla, I read that story and my eyes teared up. That poor, precious little girl. This “father” only had to pay $50,000 in restitution to the girl’s mother (it would have been twice as much if she had been a boy).
She had been burned and beaten so badly her back was broken. I am glad her suffering is over now, just like that young woman who was raped and partially disembowled.
Rest in peace, angel.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/04/world/meast/saudi-arabia-girl-death
Here’s the article. This report says this monster is in jail and in one of the comments says he might be beheaded. I am basically against the death penalty, but I’m sorry, I wouldn’t protest this monster’s execution.
I can’t read that article. And I agree with you phillymiss, I don’t think I would get too upset about death penalty in those cases.
On the modesty issue, many Christian ladies (myself and my daughters included) wear skirts/dresses only (the girls wear pants or shorts under theirs for modesty purposes when running and playing) and a scarf over our heads (except the toddler, only when she wants to be like Mommy and big sister). We wear skirts for modesty’s sake and also as a profession of our Faith; we started headcovering for a lot of reasons, mostly as a profession of faith. It’s a personal preference thing, but by no means would we condemn someone who doesn’t!
Personally, I find headscarves quite convenient; my hair stays out of my face so much better than before and I just like them.