Nationwide campaign launched to take down abortion industry via civil lawsuits
Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards told The Hill a couple days ago she thrives on controversy.
Well, this news should really boost her endorphins.
Pro-life group Life Dynamics has launched an ambitious campaign to educate all of the nation’s personal injury attorneys of an enormous opportunity to file civil lawsuits on behalf of child sex abuse victims and their families against abortion clinics that did not report the crime.
Abortion clinic personnel in all 50 states are mandated reporters who must notify designated state agencies of suspected child sex abuse.
A minor girl coming to a clinic for an abortion, contraception, or STD testing/treatment is evidence that a potential sex crime has been committed against that child. Abortion clinics are not to investigate themselves, they are simply to report.
If it turns out abortion clinics did not comply with the mandatory reporting statute, and the abuse continued afterward, they and individual employees are liable, as are any and all who caused the girl to go there – school districts that gave a referral, relatives, etc.
Life Dynamics has mailed this dvd to 53,000 personal injury attorneys across the country explaining the law and opportunity…
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Life Dynamics has also prepared both English and Spanish ads to which PI attorneys can simply add their contact info…
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Life Dynamics’ president Mark Crutcher told me his phone has been ringing off the hook since the mailing.
“I’m spending night and day talking to these people, and they’re catching the vision about what this is about and the hundreds of thousands of potential clients,” Mark told me in a phone interview this week. “We are not exaggerating when we say this may be the largest criminal conspiracy in American history. It certainly dwarfs the pedophile priest issue, for which $3 billion has thus far been shelled out for only 10-15% of the cases.”
We certainly know there’s a there there.
In 2002, Crutcher conducted the first pro-life undercover sting when having an actress posing as a 13-yr-old who had been impregnated by her 22-yr-old boyfriend call 813 Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation clinics in the U.S. An appalling 91% of those clinics expressed a willingness to cover up statutory rape.
All phone conversations were recorded and can be heard here.
Several years later Live Action found the same willingness of several Planned Parenthood clinics to aid and abet sexual perpetrators of children.
In 2011, Americans United for Life documented several actual cases of Planned Parenthoods across the country covering up child sex abuse.
There are several ways to stop abortion. One would be to sue it to death.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
AWESOME!
A speaker on human sex traffickers said that because of the confidentiality of PlannedParenthood Clinics, traffickers and pimps routinely take girls there for abortions and “healthcare” so they can keep them working. Too little is reported, but then I wonder what will these girls be subjected to.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I just love this idea. We need more ideas just like this to really change the game around. I think I will send them some money.
Oh yeah!
Fighting fire with fire!
This is the type of thing that might be able to bring down the abortion industry, or at least seriously regulate and limit it. Hopefully, in spite of the fact that so many seem to think killing children in the womb is okay, most would still find child sexual abuse to be utterly repugnant and something that must be stopped.
Or if that doesn’t talk loudly enough, then perhaps money will, since money is what it’s all about for the abortion industry.
Praying more and more women hurt by abortion will come forward to sue as well.
while I am thrilled at this strategy, I am wondering if this will just encourage the states to increase the PP budgets to take care of the lawsuits… so then we will just be funding the lawsuits…
Good idea, I wish them much success.
Maybe gun store owners whould be sued by the families of murder victims?
If the gun store owners are breaking the law, then maybe they should be sued. Did you miss the part where clinic employees are mandated reporters that are not reporting?
BBoD!
This type of personal-injury class action is what brought down Big Tobacco and launched a tsunami of anti-smoking bans across the country.
Life Dynamics’ president Mark Crutcher told me his phone has been ringing off the hook since the mailing.
“I’m spending night and day talking to these people, and they’re catching the vision about what this is about and the hundreds of thousands of potential clients,” ….
Yes!
Yes! Every second and third rate lawyer will be chasing for a piece of this. The ones who can’t quite make good money, because they aren’t very good. Maybe the TMLC could chip in?
Reality says:
May 9, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Maybe gun store owners whould be sued by the families of murder victims?
If the gun-store owners fail to comply with the mandatory waiting periods and mandatory reporting requirements — as the abortion shops have failed to comply with the mandatory waiting periods and mandatory reporting requirements — then yes, there should be lawsuits.
I’m marking this day on my calendar — You got one half-right, for once!
Reality, humor me and say “not reporting evidence of the rape (statutory or otherwise) of a thirteen year old is wrong”. Just humor me.
Mandatory reporters should report what they are mandated to report. It’s not rocket science and mandatory reporting exists for a damn good reason.
“brought down Big Tobacco” – yeah, cos they all went broke and you can’t buy tobacco products any more.
“and launched a tsunami of anti-smoking bans across the country” – there are places where not smoking is banned ?!?
If you’re going so far as to mark your calendar, does that mean I get a gift on the anniversary of the occasion Del? ;-)
No need to be humoring you Jack.
Any organisation or institution not reporting evidence of the rape (statutory or otherwise) of a thirteen year old is wrong.
Similarly, fear of litigation can dissuade retail pharmacies from stocking Plan B and Ella.
The government can force retailers to sell these drugs to the sexual predators, only if they stock the drug.
In the future, lawsuits might be the tool to prevent the government from forcing retailers to stock these drugs. None of the businesses could survive a group of civil lawsuits for aiding sexual predators.
Currently good target states for this kind of litigation are Washington, Oregon and of course, New York. The large retail pharmacy chains will run screaming to the state boards of pharmacy for relief.
Okay, that’s good you agree with that. So you agree that the clinics that were called are wrong in telling a purported thirteen year old stat rape victim that they wouldn’t tell anyone what was going on? Especially telling the actress that they don’t want to know the age of her boyfriend because they don’t want to have to report? What do you think they should have done?
On the face of it, yes they were wrong.
What do I think they should have done?
Well, they could have said what they did in the hope that the girl would come in so they could assess her and her situation and have the opportunity to talk to her face to face.
Or they could have said “That’s against the law, give us your and your boyfriend’s correct name and contact details right now!”
Or they could have said “Go away, we don’t want any risk so we won’t help you.”
How about you Jack?
Well, I wouldn’t say anything like “don’t tell us the age of your boyfriend”, because how would they be able to assess the situation when they came in if they had encouraged her to not be honest on the phone?
I would actually agree that it might be preferable to convince the girl to come in, because you can’t do much about the issue over the phone, even if that involves some deception. But I don’t think I would do it in a way that would encourage her to hide facts when she did hopefully come in. You know what I mean?
Some of these clinics probably would have reported it if she had come in and they had some solid information on her and her situation. I have a feeling that several wouldn’t though.
Being in a safe environment surrounded by other women is a whole different environment to being on a phone in who knows what type of neighborhood while trying to keep an eye out for who knows what or who. Best chance there is to provide real assistance. The other options would just send the young lady further underground and out of reach.
You’ll note that rather than “Campaign launched to ensure protection of minors via civil lawsuits” the title of this piece is “Campaign launched to take down abortion industry…” – priorities hey.
I don’t know, I’ve known a lot of underage sex workers when I was on the streets, and the clinics around here never report anything unless someone asks them to. I don’t really expect you to believe me, but I think the clinics are doing a poor job with their mandatory reporting, getting the young women into the hands of proper authorities whose jobs it is to help them in situations.
I do agree it’s best that they get the girl to actually come in for services, it’s the best way to help, but it doesn’t do much good if they aren’t reporting like they should.
Yes, and a lot of the time those young people do a runner rather than let the authorities ‘help’ them.
So I guess that it’s a case of on the streets with some sort of support or on the streets with none.
Yeah, a lot of them do run.
It’s actually quite a difficult topic for me to have an opinion on. I mean, when I was like fifteen and shooting heroin there were people breaking the law to give us kids clean needles so we’d have less chance of ending up with Hep C, or HIV, or just terrible bacterial infections and the like. It’s probably the only reason I didn’t end up with those diseases. I get why people would want to break the law to make sure that the street kids and other teenagers who are in bad situations get treated for STDs and have access to pregnancy prevention. I get it. I really don’t know what to think, because I know how difficult it is to get out of certain situations when you don’t trust the adults around you, and it’s better if the kids get some care, even if something doesn’t get reported. But are we enabling the predators that are having sex with teenagers and selling them drugs by providing confidential treatments like this? I don’t know. I just want people to stop screwing up teenagers and actually help them.
Its a desperate situation Jack. And messy. And complex. And full of contradictions.
There isn’t one answer.
No-one has the answer.
Those who care will do what they see as best as best they can do so.
I’m not keen about ambulance-chasing, but the government and abortion industry have themselves to blame for largely ignoring those laws. What happened after the Live Action sting on this issue? Nothing really. I suppose it will take ambulance-chasing to rectify this miscarriage of justice, since the “rape-is-rape” crowd isn’t taking the problem of statutory rape very seriously after all.
Makes me want to pursue a J.D. just for the possibility of deposing Richards.
This situation is not messy and complex. It is desperate for the girls that need help.
What contradictions are there for little girls being raped and forcibly aborted and sent right back to their abusers???
There is only one answer
I have the answer.
If you are a mandatory reporter REPORT!!
Good grief.
There are several ways to stop abortion. One would be to sue it to death.
Amen.
Let’s hope more successful than previous campaigns in 1980s and 90s to file lawsuits. Social media and Internet should help leverage coverage and spreading the word. The drive by state run media can’t hide or sit on it like Gosnell and Benghazi…
Carla. you hit it right on the head.
For Reality, there is no one answer for anything. That’s because he hides in the world of dumbed-down moral ambiguity. That’s why he can stomach abortion. That’s why he HAS to. There is no right or wrong. There is no truth. There’s only “loving women” and kissing toes. It’s a bad post-modern nightmare where the only meaning is personal gratification.
Poor Reality. He was born with a silver nothing in his mouth.
The government’s plan to sell Plan B and Ella, etc. to underage girls is just dumb. The legal consent laws are on the books for a reason. Parents should sue that New York School district that is making these drugs available in their schools. How can you have legal consent laws on the one hand, and violate them by selling these drugs to underage girls with the other hand – do they think girls are just taking them as vitamins or something?
So I guess that it’s a case of on the streets with some sort of support or on the streets with none.
Some support in what form? The abuser? The company which shelters the abuser?
We can’t save everyone, but we’ll save a lot more girls if we actually try. (Of course, that would cut into PP’s profit margin, and we can’t have that.) Sue the pants off of big abortion!
It’s a complicated situation where minors can’t technically consent to sex but can, in most states, legally consent to reproductive and mental health services without parental notification. Minors can’t be “forcibly aborted,” nor can they be compelled to carry a pregnancy to term.
But are we enabling the predators that are having sex with teenagers and selling them drugs by providing confidential treatments like this?
Yes.
It is too late to prevent what happened to the first victim – she will need help.
This is all about helping the next potential victim by preventing the victimization from happening.
Jack, this is a solution, comparable to stopping the drug dealer from inculcating new druggies. From what I can tell, there is no downside to this campaign.
This will be a marathon. I hope Mr. Crutcher has the stamina.
Minors can’t be “forcibly aborted,”
Ok. Tell that to the young girls I know that have been forcibly aborted.
Oh and little girls in the womb are also forcibly aborted.
What part of “against their wills” are you not understanding bvmegan?
It is not complicated. It is insanity. Cognitive dissonance.
“Can’t” as in it would be illegal or wrong.
Wrong to “forcibly abort” or “force to remain pregnant.”
Then just say what you mean and mean what you say.
Well we force them to remain pregnant at Pregnancy Centers. We tie them up for 9 months by golly.
You have no idea what you are talking about. You think “forced abortion” and “forced pregnancy” is equally wrong?? Equally heinous? There is no such thing as forced pregnancy You know that.
But I have abundant grace for you Megs.
Have a wonderful weekend!!
Mothers Day can be hard for post abortive mothers. I will pray for you.
“A minor girl coming to a clinic for an abortion, contraception, or STD testing/treatment is evidence that a potential sex crime has been committed against that child.”
No, it’s not. If a minor girl is having sex with a minor boy, no statutory rape has been committed. This “nationwide campaign” will end up the same way every pro-life “nationwide campaign” has ended–in failure. As an aside, I don’t believe loudly attempting to recruit ambulance chasers to the cause is going to have a positive impact on its PR.
In 2012 a mass of private medical records were found illegally dumped by a Kansas abortion clinic. The medical information was for 86 women who visited the clinic for abortions during the month of April. Among the documents recovered were pre-printed forms revealing that a finding of no abuse was always assumed. The form was pre-printed with patient information left blank, but next to question #15: “Was report of physical, metal, or emotional abuse or neglect filed pursuant to K.S.A. 38-2223.” The form had a pre-printed “No” next to the question. This clinic had predetermined that no abortion seeking woman would be the victim of abuse.
My point is that this lawsuit isn’t going to work because minors have the right to seek reproductive and mental health care without parental consent, even if they’re not “technically” allowed to have sex. They’re legally allowed to get abortions at Planned Parenthood and they’re legally allowed to get counseling at crisis pregnancy centers.
Clinicians will then determine if a minor is truly in a threatening or exploitive situation. Just “having sex” is not necessarily evidence of that.
“The form had a pre-printed “No” next to the question. This clinic had predetermined that no abortion seeking woman would be the victim of abuse.”
Because as far as their legal obligations are concerned, that’s the default assumption. Teachers are mandated reporters too. Do you think every high school teacher immediately rushes to file a report of suspected child abuse when one of their students shows up to class visibly pregnant? Not a chance.
This is a stupid ploy designed to instigate a flood of nuisance lawsuits that have no hope of ever succeeding but will force the defendants to waste time and money in court.
Megs, you don’t think killing your own child was abuse, so why in the world would you think a child having sex is abusive either?
Okay, Courtnay. If an adolescent minor doesn’t have the right to consent to reproductive healthcare on her own, can her parents tell her to get an abortion? Can she come to your pregnancy center without telling them?
My point Megs, is that any girl who shows signs of sexual activity (pregnancy, STD, need for contraception) is, de facto, in an abusive situation even if the sex is consensual. Something in her life is broken, whether it’s incest or lack of proper supervision. Girls who have sex at 11, 12, 13, 14 years of age are not having sex because they want to have sex. ANY sex at that age is BY DEFINITION “threatening” and “exploitative.” If you had a daughter you would understand this explicitly.
We are talking about adolescents here. Not 11 year olds.
So you have a pregnant fourteen year-old who comes to your crisis pregnancy center and says, “My fifteen year old boyfriend got me pregnant. My parents want me to get an abortion.”
What do you do? What legal recourse does she have if she wants to keep the baby?
“My point Megs, is that any girl who shows signs of sexual activity (pregnancy, STD, need for contraception) is, de facto, in an abusive situation even if the sex is consensual.”
The law doesn’t work that way. So other than explaining your own totally made-up definition of abuse that has no basis in any law anywhere, I don’t know what you’re getting at here.
Courtnay, I have a daughter, and I don’t think two minors having consensual sex means the girl is being abused. No court in the world is going to throw a 14-year-old’s boyfriend in jail for sleeping with her if he’s about the same age. And they shouldn’t.
That doesn’t mean it’s a healthy situation or a good idea, and if someone is having sex that young there is probably some home issues and supervision that’s lacking. Something should be done about it, but it’s not abuse. I do think that there’s the issue that girls who are actually “dating” older men might lie and pretend they are sleeping with a minor to protect their “boyfriend”, but I don’t think that you can call two minors having sex abusive.
“My point is that this lawsuit isn’t going to work because minors have the right to seek reproductive and mental health care without parental consent, even if they’re not “technically” allowed to have sex. They’re legally allowed to get abortions at Planned Parenthood and they’re legally allowed to get counseling at crisis pregnancy centers.”
They do to an extent, but it’s not like it’s absolute, especially with mental healthcare. It must depend on state. I know that I wasn’t able to seek addiction help as a minor, ended up not getting any because I didn’t want my parents involved. And some states have parental notification/consent in regards to abortion or STD testing, etc. I know you think that’s terrible and girls and boys should be able to seek any services without their parents knowing. But seriously, minors are minors for a reason. There’s got to be some kind of balance and oversight with things like this.
” It is too late to prevent what happened to the first victim – she will need help.
This is all about helping the next potential victim by preventing the victimization from happening.
Jack, this is a solution, comparable to stopping the drug dealer from inculcating new druggies. From what I can tell, there is no downside to this campaign.”
Downside? Well, I don’t think people understand the lengths that some people go to protect their abusers, whether it’s because they love the abuser and don’t want him/her to get in trouble (this does happen, and a lot of teens who are “dating” adults think that they are in a loving relationship), or because they are afraid of them. That’s what worries me, you might be able to get a couple creeps thrown in jail at first, but eventually the kids who are in these situations will understand that they need to lie if they want to get help without getting their “boyfriend” or “girlfriend” in legal trouble. They already do lie even with the relative lack of reporting these things. I’m not sure what can be done about this. It’s really hard to convince someone at that age, especially if they have parents that don’t care/encourage the “relationship”/are abusive themselves, that they need to get out of this.
I do think that parents need to know if their daughter or son is accessing sexual health services for whatever reason, and if the kid can come up with a good reason for why their parents shouldn’t know (good reason as in they’ll be abused if their parents find out), then CPS can be involved.
“For Reality, there is no one answer for anything.” – hm, that’s pretty close to an accurate assessment of the world.
“That’s because he hides in the world of dumbed-down moral ambiguity.” – hide? Aw, aren’t you getting the words I write here. What’s ‘dumbed-down’ is thinking there is only one predetermined, black and white, all encompassing morality. A ‘right’ morality.
“That’s why he can stomach abortion. That’s why he HAS to.” – what I can’t stomach is the constant threat to womens’ freedom, including their reproductive choices.
“There is no right or wrong.” – now now, you know that right and wrong can be subjective.
“There is no truth.” – yours, mine or someone else’s?
“There’s only “loving women” and kissing toes.” – ah, the giving of joy, and the joy of giving.
“It’s a bad post-modern nightmare where the only meaning is personal gratification.” – now you are simply making unjustifiable assertions.
“Poor Reality. He was born with a silver nothing in his mouth.” – that’s why I can speak more clearly dear Courtnay.
The form was pre-printed with patient information left blank, but next to question #15: “Was report of physical, metal, or emotional abuse or neglect filed pursuant to K.S.A. 38-2223.” The form had a pre-printed “No” next to the question. This clinic had predetermined that no abortion seeking woman would be the victim of abuse.
No, the clinic had not “predetermined that no abortion seeking woman would be the victim of abuse.” It had pre-printed blank forms for clients over the age of fifteen.
I’m sure that the nation’s personal injury attorneys will be very grateful to Life Dynamics for giving them something to do between wrongful-life lawsuits.
Reality says:
May 10, 2013 at 6:51 pm
“There is no right or wrong.” – now now, you know that right and wrong can be subjective.
No — right and wrong are solid, absolute realities. One can either be right, or mistaken about what is right.
It always wrong to enslave an innocent person.
It is always wrong to murder an innocent person.
Even though both of these have been “legal” under our Constitution during times when our culture was wrong.
Abortion mills are not safe places, for minor girls or for anyone else.
And the abortion industry has a strong interest in not reporting because it means the chance of more abortions and more money for them.
It’s hard to say whether these lawsuits will work or not, but we sure won’t know if we don’t try. Even one successful lawsuit will be a big victory.
“No — right and wrong are solid, absolute realities” – oh tut tut.
Slavery?
Women not voting?
Executing homosexuals?
Being vegetarian?
Voting republican?
Driving a Ford?
Wearing an emo outfit to church?
Sex before marriage?
Working on a sunday?
Care to elucidate Del?
This is a very ‘interesting’ situation for a person like me who has had problems of semantics when discussing pregnancy/abortion things with Reality. He often uses a relative-morality and linguistics as a rebuttal. It’s this expandable ‘grey’ area that has a problem. Is Gosnell a hero or a monster? Well, this will depend on who you ask …. eh Reality? And once more, we go round and round.
But this circular reasoning stops because legality and law is definition-based (as opposed to opinion-based). Reality’s fight with Del is this kind of fight.
Did she report? This has nothing to do with the morality involved. Every single person who smoked need not get breast cancer, nor must every woman have regret over her abortion. I think this strategy resolves the constant intellectual mind-game that relativity poses.
I am SO glad that Mark has come up with another creative way to fight against the Mob @ Planned Parenthood. Proverbs 21:22 says: “A wise man scales the city of the mighty & brings down the trusted stronghold.” Jill, you, Mark & many others are the wise ones spoken of here. I pray this scripture for you guys all the time. God bless you!
“I know you think that’s terrible and girls and boys should be able to seek any services without their parents knowing.”
I absolutely think parents should be involved in their kids’ lives. Clinicians have all sorts of ways to encourage kids to talk to their parents and to tease out what’s happening at home. But fewer adolescents will seek reproductive and sexual health care if they have to tell mom and dad. Especially if they have a legitimate reason not to feel “safe” talking to their parents about sex and drugs and all that.
I’ll throw this out there again: you work at a CPC and a girl wants to keep her pregnancy and she says her parents want her to have an abortion, what do you do?
I recently found the statement “The majority of LGBT youth are also youth of color” on a job description:
http://feministjobs.blogspot.com/2013/04/program-associate-national-council-on.html
Why is it that most abortions are done on minorities as well? If people are truly born LGBT rather than choosing this behavior, why would more be born of color?
Should make all of us go hmmmmm and question how fooled many of us have become.
” Why is it that most abortions are done on minorities as well? If people are truly born LGBT rather than choosing this behavior, why would more be born of color?”
More abortions are done on minorities because of socioeconomic factors would be my guess. Considering that single parenthood and not being able to afford a baby are pretty common reasons women give for getting abortions, and those problems plague minority populations disproportionately, it makes sense they would have a higher abortion rate.
As for why more minorities identify as LGBT, I don’t know. Maybe it’s a genetic variation more common in certain demographics. Maybe the communities that these people live in are more accepting, therefore more people identify as LGBT. Who knows, it could be a number of things.
” I’ll throw this out there again: you work at a CPC and a girl wants to keep her pregnancy and she says her parents want her to have an abortion, what do you do?”
I would tell her that legally her parents can’t force that on her. I don’t know what this is question is supposed to prove. You know that I want abortion illegal overall, so I don’t see the point of the question.
” I absolutely think parents should be involved in their kids’ lives. Clinicians have all sorts of ways to encourage kids to talk to their parents and to tease out what’s happening at home. But fewer adolescents will seek reproductive and sexual health care if they have to tell mom and dad. Especially if they have a legitimate reason not to feel “safe” talking to their parents about sex and drugs and all that.”
I don’t know about all that, no one ever asked me why I didn’t want my parents involved in my decisions, they just told me I needed their permission. Part of that might just be me, I’m pretty stand-offish, and I think with street kids some people just see it as a lost cause, but I don’t know many kids who were even asked why they didn’t want their parents involved.
But I do see the point that less kids might come forward to get care if they knew their parents would find out, which is why I have trouble having a firm opinion on the matter.
I recently found the statement “The majority of LGBT youth are also youth of color” on a job description: Why is it that most abortions are done on minorities as well? If people are truly born LGBT rather than choosing this behavior, why would more be born of color?
The job is with the National Council on Crime and Delinquency, and the statistic appears to be a misleading abbreviation of a statement on the NCCD website that “the majority of LGBT youth in the juvenile justice system are youth of color” (emphasis added). People here will no doubt have varying explanations for the racial imbalances within the justice system.
” The job is with the National Council on Crime and Delinquency, and the statistic appears to be a misleading abbreviation of a statement on the NCCD website that “the majority of LGBT youth in the juvenile justice system are youth of color” (emphasis added). People here will no doubt have varying explanations for the racial imbalances within the justice system.”
Oh I didn’t figure that out. Considering that the black incarceration rate is something like more than double their representation in the general population, it makes sense that LGBT youth of color would be overrepresented in the “justice” system. It’s basically just pure discrimination and inequity.
Thanks for clearing this up, Jack and LisaC.
I couldn’t figure out what this statement was getting at. It is a misleading statement that should be corrected.
I get upset when I hear the stats about minorities overrepresented in our “justice” system.
It is a misleading statement that should be corrected.
Yeah, it should be. I only found it because I googled “LGBT youth of color.” Probably an oversight on their part.
Planned Parenthood might get hurt a little…but they will make up for it by campaigning all those who think they are a sweet organization that helps with women’s rights..they will start a “pledge a lawyer” campaign to get people to donate money to cover their legal fees..and I assure you, there are enough ignorant people in the world who will gladly and generously donate.
Yet, I hope the bad publicity will do more harm than the lawsuits..the key is to get the media to cover this..that, is what will make the difference. If they can afford to donate thousands of dollars a day on good PR ads…and to support political friends in high places, I sincerely doubt that suing them to death is going to hurt them too much..the better deal is to get the media to make PP looks as bad as we KNOW they are to the media. BAD PRESS will hurt more than any lawsuit! Let’s bring it on!!!