Pro-life news brief 5-1-13
by JivinJ, host of the blog, JivinJehoshaphat
- CNN covers Live Action’s “InHuman” videos. More are on their way. Working in the abortion industry is likely quite stressful at this point in time:
“There definitely are more videos coming out,” Live Action Founder and President Lila Rose told CNN. “There’s likely going to be another one coming out this week. And then more in coming weeks. So, you know, we’re again focused on reaching as many people possible with… kind of the expose of what’s happening on a daily basis in the [late-term] abortion industry.”…Also, CNN repeatedly attempted to contact senior staff at the Dr. Emily Woman’s Health Center in New York. During initial calls, a representative said Director Marjana Banzil was unavailable until Wednesday. During subsequent attempts to reach senior staff, representatives grew agitated and, in one instance, screamed, “No comment!” before hanging up.
- In the Washington Times, Denise Burke writes on Gosnell and the abortion industry:
Sadly, Big Abortion continues to equate women’s health and safety with mere access to abortion. Access to sanitary and appropriately regulated and inspected abortion facilities is simply not part of their political and self-interested calculus.The “right” to abortion, as defined by the U.S. Supreme Court, does not give rise to a corollary “right” for abortion providers like Kermit Gosnell to turn profits or to practice without meaningful oversight and regulation. Quite simply, Big Abortion does not — contrary to its apparent beliefs — have a constitutional right to maim and kill women in unlicensed, substandard and dangerous clinics.
- Ireland’s government has submitted draft legislative language to change the country’s abortion law. At least one pro-life group is opposed to the legislation:
Under the draft legislation, when the threat is not from suicide, two doctors must jointly certify that there is a “real and substantial risk” of the loss of the pregnant woman’s life, and that they believe abortion is the only way to avert that risk.One of the doctors must be an obstetrician or gynecologist, and at least one of the two should consult with the woman’s own doctor where possible.
When the risk to the pregnant woman’s life is from suicide, the assessment must be made by an obstetrician or gynecologist, along with two psychiatrists.
[Photo of Ireland abortion protest via CNN]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Oh, “cute”, the woman holding the “Fallopian” sign is making fun of the Bible. (2 things about that: 1. PHILLIPIANS (which, I assume is where they’re doing the play on words) Chapter 4 doesn’t say anything about a woman’s reproductive system. In fact, it talks about praising God for His gifts and learning to live in “concord with one another in God” 2. There is no verse 28 in Phil. Chapter 4. So the poster shows ignorance that way. (I guess pro-choicers are writing their own “Bible”?)
I would think that pro-choicers would WANT clean, sanitary clinics that have proper safety regulations for people; however, I’m wondering how many people are more concerned with access rather than safety/health.
That “Fallopians” sign…
Basically an admission that these people actually think their sexual organs are their gods. What a brutally sad mindset to go through life with.
Don’t mess with but PAY for my sexual activities!!
A woman’s reproductive “rights?” Abortion. Say it. Say the A word.
Sooooooo tired of their whining and their stupid slogans.
“I guess pro-choicers are writing their own “Bible” – why not, it’s a large and not very exclusive club.
I think you’ll find Prolifist, that their message is that biblical references and claims as an excuse to control women are not relevant to them.
Hm, just like taxpayers contribute to religious activities they don’t agree with Carla?
Yes, ABORTION – part of womens’ reproductive rights.
The anti-choice movement will get sooo tired of their own whining and their own stupid slogans before they deliver what they wish.
The anti-choice movement will get sooo tired of their own whining and their own stupid slogans before they deliver what they wish.
Yeah, that whole “equal rights for all humans” stuff is just so passé.
“All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.” ~ George Orwell, Animal Farm
So I guess the lady with the sign doesn’t believe in separation of church and state?
Sure. Remind me again why a developing fetus should have more rights than the woman carrying it. Or why they warrant more of your time, energy and resources than the born people walking the earth who are dying of disease, war or starvation. Or the people with families who die in factory fires and building collapses so that people can wear cheap clothes.
So JDC, do you really not get their point or are you being just a little facetious?
Reality,
Don’t bother.
But I must Carla. I care.
Remind me again why a developing fetus should have more rights than the woman carrying it.
Same tired inaccuracy. Women in the US have the right to life. So granting that same right to the unborn would clearly not be more rights than women. It would be EQUAL rights.
[Meg Lanker-Simons ] “A well-known female liberal blogger and radio host at the University of Wyoming (UW) is being accused by police of fabricating a rape threat against herself to appear as if it came from a conservative.”
http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4731
[Say it ain’t so Josephine!]
Dem resolution warns climate change could push women to ‘transactional sex’
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/296679-%20dems-warn-climate-change-could-drive-women-to-transactional-sex
“It also cites Hurricane Katrina as evidence of how climate change can affect women, noting that the storm displaced “over 83 percent of low-income, single mothers” in the region.”
Who could have guessed that the earth goddess Gaia would discrimnate against the kinder gentler gender and use woman made climate change to promote the sex slave trade?
If asked most of those ‘83% of low income, single mothers’ would say thery were both relieved and delighted to be libertated from the progressive plantation known as New Orleans, and they have no intention of returning to that hell hole other than to collect child support payments from the dead beat sperm donors who sired their children.
It is time for Gaia to girdle up her ample loins and lead the feministas of the world in a counter insugeryency against the now ‘global’ republican war on women.
Real-stupid-ity,
If we could come up with scripture reference that assertst that 2+2=4, would you reject the result simply because it was recorded in the bible?
Peope of your bigotted idiotology and myopic mindset attempted to prevent the state of Florida from making personalized license plates with the two words ‘choose life’ simply because those two words are recorded in the ‘book’.
Of course not kentheburper, science shows us that, all things being equal, 2+2=4. The bible doesn’t tell us so, because the bible doesn’t really contain knowledge.
Your question is self-defeating.
I rather think that basing your life and actions on the bible is an 8X10 glossy pic of myopia.
Come on, folks…you’re feeding the troll…
Ok, ok! I’ve checked out your site, happy now. Sheesh.
Pro-Choicers can make fun of the Bible, religion, and God all they want, but I’d rather die and find out I was wrong than the other way around.
None of them (that is the pro-choicers on here, as far as I’ve seen) have been able to answer the whole human egg + human sperm = human being. It’s easier to deny said developing being is human and worthy of EQUAL rights of the mother (right to life being the most basic of those; especially considering the only so-called “crime” an in-uteral human being has is existing) than to consider that pro-lifers could just be right about the whole thing. As the saying goes, “Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.”
Nobody can tell me that the in-uteral developing human being is guilty of anything except existing, so I ask why should that being have to die just because his/her existence is inconvenient?
Frankly, it gives me the creeps that you visited my site and saw pictures of my and other families’ beloved children, thinking the ugly thoughts that you think. I will be careful to remove the link to my site from now on. :(
“but I’d rather die and find out I was wrong than the other way around” – the irony is that if you are wrong and you die, you won’t actually find out.
Mat.Anna, I know I’ll be corrected if I am wrong but I don’t recall seeing your monicker here before about…..yesterday. And you haven’t actually said anything about the topics under discussion. Don’t fret your fevered brow, I only perused your home page to see what your site was about because I thought you were fishing for ‘hits’, like others do here from time to time. So I haven’t seen any of yours or your friends photos.
I think you’ll find Prolifist, that their message is that biblical references and claims as an excuse to control women are not relevant to them.
Then they should be informed that the Pro-Life movement a.) is not merely a religious conglomerate, and b.) has nothing to do with a desire or excuses to control women, but merely to recognize the basic human rights of an entire category of human beings who currently have their rights denied by the law and society at large.
Yes, ABORTION – part of womens’ reproductive rights.
Incorrect. If a woman is pregnant with her child, she has ALREADY reproduced, and killing the child that has been created would fit nowhere into the realm of the label of “reproductive rights”.
The anti-choice movement will get sooo tired of their own whining and their own stupid slogans before they deliver what they wish.
a.) Not “anti-choice”, you’ll find most of us are quite fond of choices. Personally, I only oppose the “choice” to kill one’s child. b.) You wish.
a) – no, just mostly
b) – a large chunk do
Given, for the sake of argument, that a pregnant woman has ‘already reproduced’, why is this excluded from reproductive rights?
a) – sure, just not as many. And I’m sure there are other choices you would oppose.
b) – well ok, they might not get sooo tired of it. Lot of effort for nought though.
a) – no, just mostly
b) – a large chunk do
And experts agree speaking in generalities is not a good way to win a debate.
9_9
Given, for the sake of argument, that a pregnant woman has ‘already reproduced’, why is this excluded from reproductive rights?
The term “reproductive rights” implies a woman making choices about her reproduction. Like, when, where, and how that would happen. If a woman is pregnant, when/where/how reproduction is allowed is irrelevant, since it has ALREADY taken place. Duh.
a) – sure, just not as many. And I’m sure there are other choices you would oppose.
And I’m sure there are choices a woman can make that you would oppose as well. Does that mean YOU are “anti-choice”?
b) – well ok, they might not get sooo tired of it. Lot of effort for nought though.
Slow and steady wins the race.
Indeed, so why did you do so?
Reproductive rights obviously extend beyond conception. Your saying women lose those rights just because they’re pregnant doesn’t make it so. Duh.
“And I’m sure there are choices a woman can make that you would oppose as well” – I’m not the one who claimed “Personally, I only oppose the “choice” to kill one’s child” :-)
Sure, but some tortoises are so slow they die of old age before they reach their destination, others get run over by a truck.
Go on, tell me in all seriousness that you will stop abortion.
If that’s the case, Reality, then so be it. I’ve had enough experience and learned enough in my faith to be pretty confidant in my belief that there is, in fact, a God. Others may not have reached that, or believe that, but I do. If I’m wrong, then I’m wrong. However, if I’m RIGHT, than at least that’s ONE mistake I did NOT make.
Still no answer on the human egg + human sperm = human being. Not from any of the pro-choicers who come on here. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Picking on religion is apparently easier than facing Biological Facts. If human egg + human sperm = something other than developing human being, then I’d like to know what species of being I was pregnant with for all those months and HOW said offspring suddenly became human. The only crime these human beings that result from a human egg and human sperm coming together are even guilty of is existing. What I’d like to know is why their existence is a crime? Just because they’re dependent on the mother? Well so are young children OUTSIDE the womb, yet I don’t see anyone saying “Oh poor woman having to be a mom to these kids! She’s SO burdened!” I see people up in arms when a child is abused, when innocent children suffer, yet the innocent being inside the womb has no such outrage when said being’s existence is terminated through abortion. So said we reduce the value of innocent life based on whether or not they’re inside the womb.
This isn’t about less or more rights of anyone, this is about the basic right to life of an innocent being. The mother already has the basic right to life and nobody’s questioning THAT right, but they’re questioning the right to life of an in-uteral human being simply because said being isn’t outside the womb.
“human egg + human sperm = human being” – yawn. I have said more than once that when a human sperm bumps into a human egg the process of reproduction begins and the product of conception is a member of the human species. So stop repeating the same false claim.
“Well so are young children OUTSIDE the womb” – post birth they don’t need the person they gestated within to survive.
I must’ve missed your answer because this is the FIRST TIME I ever saw you say ANYTHING about human egg + human sperm = human being.
If that’s the case, then why is it okay to terminate their existence? The only thing these beings ever did was exist, develop and grow, which is the same thing pretty much every human being who is alive has done. I didn’t stay a baby, I grew and developed into a child, I didn’t stay a child, I grew and developed into a pre-teen, I didn’t stay there, I grew and developed into a teenager, and then an adult. In fact, adults continue to change. We don’t ever stop changing somehow (whether it’s noticeable or not).
Whatever you call said being (fetus, zygote, baby, child, kid, adult, pre-teen, teen, young adult, middle-age, elderly) they’re still human in nature, therefore, since the basic human right given to us by nature (and if you’re religious, by God) by the virtue of our existence in the first place.
So I ask you, then, what crime did these human beings inside the womb ever commit to merit the termination of their existence through abortion?
Mat.Anna,
I went to your site. The photos took my breath away! So precious and beautiful! I also recognized the little ones of two of my friends! :)
Please stay and link to your site!!
It is a blessing for me to see it(I have 3 in heaven)and others will benefit too!
We do not grieve a “bunch of cells.”
Reality,
Put a sock in it.
Reality, it’s not my fault you haven’t been paying attention. And while I’m not a big commenter I’ve been reading this site for well over a year, long enough to size you up. I’ve known many people like you who mostly just like to argue for the sake of arguing and who are never moved by intelligent debate. Several years ago I left them behind and don’t engage them online because all it does is raise my blood pressure. And right now, carrying my eighth, the last thing I need is my blood pressure up. While you may think this child is not worthy of notice, I know otherwise.
Thank you, Carla. Two of the little ones there are ours (our sixth and seventh children).
I know it’s the biggest cliche ever, but seriously, don’t feed the troll, people.
Mat. Anna,
Reality is never worth the time or the raised blood pressure.
I will be praying for you and your precious little one.
What a blessing for me to see two of your babies. Thank you for sharing them with me.
God bless you!!
Thank you JDC.
Tis true.
“Thank you JDC.”
You’re welcome, Carla. Someone has to make up for Paladin’s absence. :)
Indeed.
When Sir Paladin is not here a reminder is always good!!
Matt.anna Congratulations on your pregnancy! I’m one of 8, with 5 siblings in Heaven (so about 13 of us total). Big families are so much fun. Mom and Dad raised us to be close and there for each other. Not everyone is cut out to parent a big family, but I always “tip my hat” so to speak to those who go for it. Awesome! From one mother to another, you rock!
Mother In Texas: Thank you! And thank you, Carla. (:
You’re welcome, Mat.Anna (sorry I misspelled your moniker–I added an extra “t”–in my previous post).
Not trying to gag me are you Carla?
“you haven’t been paying attention” – uhu, and yet “I’ve been reading this site for well over a year” – so how many actual comments have you made?
“raised blood pressure” – there are meds for that :-)