Actor Mark Ruffalo: pro-abortion because his mom had an illegal one
I am a man. I could say this has nothing to do with me. Except I have two daughters and I have a mother who was forced to illegally have an abortion in her state where abortion was illegal when she was a very young woman. It cost $600 cash. It was a traumatizing thing for her. It was shameful and sleazy and demeaning. When I heard the story I was aghast by the lowliness of a society that would make a woman do that.
I could not understand its lack of humanity; today is no different.
~ Excerpt from a letter by actor Mark Ruffalo, recently read at a pro-abortion rally in Mississippi, Huffington Post, August 19
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Illegal abortions are “traumatic,” “shameful, sleazy, and demeaning,” but as soon as the law changes, the same procedure is…great? And yet now that abortion is legal, “today is no different?” This man makes my brain hurt.
And how did “society…make a woman do that?” You see, pro-life people are ALSO against ILLEGAL abortions, get it? We don’t like them. How can I make this easier for you? Sigh.
Again with the “forced to”! So much for women having options or agency. http://blog.secularprolife.org/2013/08/back-alley-argument-disrespects-womens.html
Mark Ruffalo, please meet Rebecca Kiesling. She is alive today because abortion was illegal in Michigan when she was in the womb.
http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/
Hmm, abortion fans always tell abortion opponents that men are not qualified to speak on the subject since they cannot get pregnant. I wonder if he will get told the same thing. Nope, the sound of silence reigns.
He is protecting his mother. I am sure he has many conflicting emotions and it is not surprising that, as a sibling he feels this way. He needs education and prayers…
Imagine hearing your mom went through this…he cannot even get beyond his mom and probably the fact that he may not even be here if she had not aborted. It is very tough for siblings…Pray for him…perhaps if we all do his heart will begin to change and he will see that he can still love his mom while seeing abortion for the wrong it is.
Mark Ruffalo, here’s some questions:
You have a mother who was forced to have an abortion?
Why does the legality of the procedure bother you more than the forcing? (Isn’t that imposition the same basis of victimization as rape?)
What was traumatizing – the forcing of the abortion, the abortion itself or the betrayal by someone who she trusted? All?
How does legalizing abortion eliminate any of the social pressures to force abortion upon others?
Helping others kill innocent human beings is humanizing?
I know multiple cases of forced abortions even when legal. In every event they are traumatic, horrible experiences leading to all sorts of destructive behaviors.
Let’s go back to your statement that “you’re a man – this has nothing to do with me…” If you don’t know how to stand up for the helpless – like your own mother, and there is ample evidence in your own speech and actions that you don’t, then you need to rethink your own understanding of what it means to be a man.
BTW – Do you mourn your sibling? Do you sometimes ever think – it could have been you?
I swear that before you can enter the movie biz you must be required to go to some sort of pro-abortion brainwashing/programming. Why is this man not grieved at missing out on a sibling?
Crap.
I really liked him too.
:P
First of all cowardly men all say abortion has them yet any child is half the man’s. I do not know this actor but he needs an education. We pro lifers are against all abortion legal and illegal. After all the end result is the same….a dead baby.
And actually the results today are the same as the illegal days. Sterile women PAS…look at Gosnell. Carhart Ruddock Tiller.
And as a result of legal abortion …abortion has increased. Women are still dying but its hush hush.
August 21, 2013 at 8:49 am
Dear Mark,
What happened was indeed terrible. No one should be forced into abortion, either illegal or illegal. An abortion is traumatizing for a woman, consciously or subconsciously. The damage done to her will have its effects in life, immediately or in time, and it will damage her soul tremendously. And even worse: it kills a human being, an innocent child, a gift of God the Father. An abortion cuts directly in the Heart of God the Father.
I hope your mother found a way to deal with this dreadful trauma and was or will be able to reconcile with God about what has happened. I will pray for that.
And dear Mark, please do not teach your daughters that killing a baby, a foetus, is okay, no matter what the circumstances are. Accept life as something very precious, as something holy, because that is what it is: holy, a gift of God the Father.
Chris
His mother was forced to have an abortion? How? Was she threatened? Was there no help available to her?
Who performed the abortion? $600.00 over 40 years ago wasn’t chump change. Was it done in a doctor’s office? A hospital? How was it sleazy and demeaning?
Would he send one of his daughters to Carhart, Gosnell, or Hodari? They were good enough for other people’s wives, mothers, and daughters. Or would he do what the wealthy and famous have always done, find the very best doctor they can and make a very discreet visit, whatever the cost? After all, what’s money for?
BTW Mark, you are a man. Either men can speak on this issue or they can’t, period. Not just when it suits abortion advocates.
Huh I remember watching Joy Behars show one time because it was about abortion. Best show they ever cancelled. She said that if we make abortion illegal millions of women will be dying.
I’m not saying celebrities can’t have an opinion but for crying out loud do some research. Plenty of women are dying from breast cancer because of abortion ….all botched abortions and deaths aside.
BTW Mark, you are a man. Either men can speak on this issue or they can’t, period. Not just when it suits abortion advocates.
Exactly Mary!!
Wait… You mean abortion was illegal and his mother didn’t go around sticking rusty coat hangers into her cervix? Uh oh, that doesn’t fit the pro-abort narrative very well.
The only thing that comes to mind for me is that I am a little taken aback here. We need more men in our ranks. Men that can articulate the evils of abortion and be able to impart this information in a cohesive but at the same time impactful way. Ruffalo needed to be educated as many of you point out before speaking as not to allow for pro-abortionists any opening to off-course his message. But still, his message is valid.
And Kelly, please read carefully. Mark said: “I could not understand its lack of humanity; today is no different.” He was not referring to illegal abortion when commenting that today is no different. He was asserting that today lack of humanity is no different. Nowhere in that statement, is Mark alleging that abortion is still illegal.
Thomas R – what’s the basis for your saying Mark Ruffalo’s message is valid?
Put another way – what do you think is his message?
I prefer to reserve the designation of manhood for those male humans that defend the weakest among us, not those who advocate their genocidal slaughter.
Also, thanks to Chris A., Patty, Praxedes and others of you for your prayers for Sam, an unwed mother contemplating abortion. Tragically, she chose to kill her unborn child Monday. The dark side, through lies and intimidation won that battle, but the war is not over. There are many Moms and babies that hang in the balance.
We must keep fighting to protect them from this rampant evil in our land.
Perhaps “welfare mother” will be de-stigmatized after abortion is again illegal. Indeed, it might be an improvement over “career woman.” The welfare mother gets to enjoy domesticity and being with her baby all day instead of a 9-5 rut. She also can follow soap operas and other interesting TV shows.
An alternative to adoption but something similar is a “guardian family.” An upper-class childless couple can take both mother and baby into their home. The mother will still be the mother but will be assisted and mentored.
Ed H – so sad to hear that Sam didn’t choose life. Please let her know about CareNet – she may need someone to talk with later, and I’m pretty confident they’ll accept her with love.
At CareNet RI, we were seeing quite a few clients within months of their abortion procedures and a few, within days. The gravity of their decision isn’t always apparent up-front.
I’ll continue to pray for Sam.
Thomas R…I think you’re the one who doesn’t get what Kelly was saying. Please re-read.
I wonder if Hollywood makes people insane, or if you have to be insane to go there.
Nobody forced your mother to get an illegal abortion. Last time I checked, we have a thing called an “adoption”.
My grandma decided she didn’t want my mom, going to an illegal abortion clinic. Thankfully, my mother survived because of the abortion being a failure. If they were legal, my mother, brother, and I wouldn’t be here right now (and generations to come).
Not only do abortions take away my mother’s right to live, but me and my brother.
I hope Mark Ruffalo has recurring dreams in which Captain America visits him and wants to talk in depth about this letter.
Thomas, Raffalo is a proabort. Go into the full story at Huffington Post. Raffalo wants his daughters to have the choice to kill his own grandchildren. What Raffalo may not realize is that if his daughter(s) have an abortion(s), that it is more likely than not that they were coerced by a proabort man. Or maybe he just cares about himself.
I think Raffalo is trying to say that his mother was forced to have an icky illegal abortion because abortion was not legalized yet. He is in denial and does need to be educated about the continued ickyness of legal abortion. If he already knows about the terrible consequences to women after abortion (to say nothing of the dead child) but speaks in favor of abortion anyway, he does not love women but supports their objectification.
Do you think Raffalo was paid anything to speak in Mississippi?
I wonder if Hollywood makes people insane, or if you have to be insane to go there.
My family and I were in California about ten years ago and the kids insisted they wanted to see the Hollywood Stars Walk of Fame (I had been there in the 80s and told them it was nothing like what you see on TV). We went and the kids got to see for themselves how dirty that area really is (of course if you drive up in the hills, you get to see how the elites live and want to continue living).
We were walking along the sidewalk and walked past a young man in his mid 20s. He reached out right in front of us, in broad daylight, and suggestively touched my youngest (who was ten) on his neck and shoulder. In hindsight, I wish my husband would have pasted him one and that we had called the cops but we were shocked and just got out of there.
I wish I would have taken a picture of a scene in Hollywood that sticks in my mind from that same day. We saw a bedraggled woman with two dirty small children digging through a dumpster in an empty lot. Right next to the empty lot, a black, shiny limo pulled out and let out a couple dressed to the hilt at a restaurant. I could have gotten the whole scene in one photo. I remember thinking, Hollywood doesn’t even take care of its own! All those movie stars claiming “We are the World” aren’t even feeding the hungry families in their own city!
This. http://liveactionnews.org/if-mark-ruffalo-loves-abortion-so-much-why-doesnt-he-marry-it/
If we make abortion illegal maybe he’ll Hulk Smash us.
I couldn’t remember what character this guy was known for when I first saw his photo above so thanks for the brainjolt Kel and Jack.
I just thought he looked like he could benefit from a laxative or two.
My bad, I read the full story so no, his message about the lack of humanity is not valid. Chris, Kelly and Praxedes I thank you for setting me straight.
Now let me eat crow and put a sock in it.
To my defense, though, I have not read the full story before commenting as I avoid the Huffing Post like the plague. I promise to improve. LOL.
Once you get used to it, crow doesn’t taste so bad!
Kel, thanks for the link to an awesome response to Ruffalo’s ridiculous statements.
Prax, in fact, it tastes just like chicken.
Doh! I couldn’t resist!
Half of HuffPo’s “news” is celebrity gossip, so it’s hard to take it seriously.
when the great Bob Casey was governor here, he was asked about women dying from illegal abortions. His answer was something to the effect, “if you’re worried about being harmed from an illegal abortion, then don’t have one.” It sounded rather callous, but who exactly forced his mother to have this abortion?
BTW – Do you mourn your sibling? Do you sometimes ever think – it could have been you?
I have told the story about my little brother who was killed through a saline abortion. My daughter also had a friend whose mother had an abortion and the girl was so upset she cried. The natural urge of any normal human being is to protect and nurture the defenseless, I don’t care what anyone says. I wonder if there are any studies done on the siblings of “blobs” have been aborted?
I am not trying to belittle this guy’s concern for his mother, but I am suspect of men who are so pro-abortion. In some cases they are the type that actually have little respect for women. I bet Hugh Hefner and Charlie Sheen have abortionists on speed dial.
Ruffalo has been buffaloed by the Culture of Death.
Even his alter ego, the Hulk, would know “Abortion bad!”
Ninek and Praxedes, you are too kind, thanks.
But to be honest, I didn’t really eat crow nor put a sock in it. LOL.
That above post was from me, Phillymiss. I am sorry I am getting senile in my own age.
Prax, I am sorry that happened to your daughter. I don’t condone violence but if your husband would have decked that pedo creep, I don’t think there is any cop on earth that would have arrested him! All over the world children, but especially girls, are subject to sexual exploitation. This article made me feel ill:
http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/08/underage-girls-are-egypts-summer-rentals/
I know these people experience poverty that most of us can’t imagine, but I would rather prostitute myself than sell my daughter, if it came to that. And you know these MONSTERS having sex with these girls don’t use protection, so I’m sure that many of them become pregnant, and the inseminators (I refuse to call them “fathers”) are under no obligation to support these children, so the girls are unwed mothers in a society that doesn’t “do” baby mommas. It’s just so sad. Please pray for the little girls of Egypt and all exploited children!
I hear you MST – all over the world the biggest problem now is the sex trafficking of underage girls. More and more cases on US soil in the last few years.
Hold on to your daughters everywhere you go!!!!
“All over the world children, but especially girls, are subject to sexual exploitation. ”
I know that these statements don’t mean harm, and it’s true that female children are somewhat at risk more than male children, but I still don’t like these statements. All children are at risk for sexual exploitation, the child prostitutes in some places in the world are even 90% male, you have the “dancing boys of Afghanistan” (google if you want to be upset for the rest of the day), as well as child soldiers (predominately male) being at risk for rape when they are “recruited” (kidnapped). That’s in addition to just the “normal” types of sexual abuse (babysitter, parent, family friend) that something like 1 in 6 boys are subjected to in the US alone. I just feel like people ignore this and leave out victims if they aren’t female just because there is probably less of them, maybe. It’s damaging, because there’s already much less support for male survivors of sexual exploitation whatever age they are, and the attitude that females are the important victims (not saying that’s your attitude phillymiss but that’s what comes across in these conversations) worsens this problem.
http://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/ulr/article/view/484/352
‘It was a traumatizing thing for her. It was shameful and and sleazy and demeaning.’
Uh, yes, those are good descriptions of abortion – so he’s fighting for legalizing an experience that is traumatizing, shameful, sleazy, and demeaning?
Great plan, sir. Let’s legalize all the horrible experiences!!! Horrible, life altering experiences for everyone!!!
*eyeroll*
”I have a mother who was forced to illegally have an abortion in her state where abortion was illegal when she was a very young woman.” Funny how she was definitely not FORCED. She clearly wanted an abortion regardless if it was legal or not. In no way is that forcing. She had a choice to kill and she did it regardless of the circumstances. Sad and disgusting!
Dearest Hannah,
As a post abortive mom I will tell you that there is hope and healing after abortion. Regardless of circumstances.
Not all abortions are “wanted.”
This mom is post abortive and Mr. Ruffalo is a sibling of an aborted child.
They need prayer.
http://rachelsvineyard.org
Prax, I am sorry that happened to your daughter.
Actually it happened to my son.
I don’t condone violence either but I sure wish both my husband and myself had clocked him and then called the police.
“You see, pro-life people are ALSO against ILLEGAL abortions, get it?” – you can’t stop them either way. Legal is therefore better.
“You have a mother who was forced to have an abortion?” – not sure that the abortion itself was forced. I think he’s referring to the ‘illegal’ part. She was forced to have an illegal abortion because legal abortion wasn’t available.
“Why does the legality of the procedure bother you more than the forcing?” – as above.
“What was traumatizing – the forcing of the abortion, the abortion itself or the betrayal by someone who she trusted? All?” – none of these. It was the fact that it was illegal. I imagine it would be somewhat similar to a mixed color couple finding a way to get married despite anti- miscegenation laws.
“How does legalizing abortion eliminate any of the social pressures to force abortion upon others?” – again, I don’t think it was the abortion itself which was forced. But in general, the more openly something can be done and the more accepted it is, the less likely it will be that coercive factors can be perpetrated.
“Helping others kill innocent human beings is humanizing?” – not being unjustly derided, ostracized and judged is humanizing.
“it is more likely than not that they were coerced by a proabort man.” – based on what?
“I think Raffalo is trying to say that his mother was forced to have an icky illegal abortion because abortion was not legalized yet.” – that’s what I think too.
“He is in denial and does need to be educated about the continued ickyness of legal abortion.” – like many medical procedures.
“If he already knows about the terrible consequences to women after abortion…..he does not love women but supports their objectification.” – the consequences of women not being allowed abortions would be worse overall. He supports womens choices and rights, which is a sign of love. Forced gestation is more akin to objectification.
Reality says:
August 21, 2013 at 8:46 pm
“You see, pro-life people are ALSO against ILLEGAL abortions, get it?” – you can’t stop them either way. Legal is therefore better.
It is difficult to make sense of this. Laws that protect children in the womb reduce abortions dramatically, just as laws against murder keep murders to a minimum.
And even though there will always be some murders and some abortions, it does not follow that legalized violence is better than illegal violence.
Making abortion illegal will save many hundreds of thousands of lives, every year.
I’m reading a non-fiction book set in the late Victorian and early Edwardian eras. An unmarried woman is said to have had a “miscarriage” when four months pregnant. The author notes that “miscarriage” may be a “euphemism.”
Indeed. Problem pregnancies were not an invention of the 1970s. Abortion was legalized largely because this problem had not been made a thing of the past.
Regarding adoption: carrying for 9 months and giving birth leads to a strong mother-child bond. A woman who is resistant to CARRYING has no way to adopt out the PREGNANCY. At this time, we have no way to transplant an embryo from one womb to another. Adoption isn’t popular. It never will be. Thundering multitudes of women are not going to have babies and give them over to others to raise. A million and a half women a year placing babies for adoption? It just won’t happen.
To prevent abortions, the only realistic way is to make sure that those women who get pregnant are those who yearn to have babies.
It is difficult to make sense of this.
Reality does not want to reduce abortions. The more abortions, the more his blood lust is filled.
Hilarious to go point by point and try to pass your “arguments” off as REALITY. And never give anything else(no citations, no proof) than your own deluded opinions.
Nope.
No.
No way.
That’s wrong.
False.
It simply must not be true if Reality disagrees!!!
LOL
I’m just going to go ahead and advise everyone to not feed the troll.
“Forced gestation is more akin to objectification.”
‘reality” comrade. Methinks that having intercourse in such a nonchalant way as not to think about consequences certainly objectifies a woman more than being responsible for her actions and carrying the baby to term. Again, putting the cart before the horse, as I always say pro-aborts are typical of doing. Abortion is a cowardly act anyway you look at it. Those that support it, reduce women to non-human entities.
@Jack — thanks alot. I was so curious about the dancing boys of Afghanistan that I watched a video about it: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/view/. Now I feel sick — heartsick, that is. What is wrong with these people? But at least this film has a (somewhat) happy ending. Seriously though, I wish there was a way to help these kids. Every child has a right to an education, to feel safe, to have his or her needs for food, shelter, and clothing met, but millions, perhaps billions of kids don’t have any of the above, and it breaks my heart.
I warned you! I told you that you’d be upset the rest of the day after learning about all that (I can’t actually watch videos or read detailed articles about sexual abuse personally, not often anyways). There’s seriously something really, really wrong with people who abuse kids or put petty politics above feeding and clothing them.
Charming as ever Praxedes. ‘Blood lust’ indeed, I’m not the one who hangs around outside abortion clinics or waves large images of shredded fetuses around in public.
The reality is that abortion is one of a number of medical procedures that people undertake out of necessity, not pleasure. And just like I’d like to see people not have to undertake certain other medical procedures by improved preventative and early intervention methods, I’d like to see less women having to undertake surgical abortions.
This can be assisted by things such as better sex-ed and better contraception. But I think that the biggest impact – which will greatly reduce the number of surgical abortions – will be newer and better versions of drugs such as RU486. I can see the day when abortion clinics won’t be required. The vast majority of terminations will be medical and safe and only a few surgical procedures will be required and they will take place in hospitals.
That’s funny Carla, a couple of anti-choicers here said the same thing as me. Do you have anything to rebut the answers I gave to the points raised? None of my answers were single worded, So who’s making stuff up?
Well Thomas R., I think most folk are aware of the possible consequences. Hence the use of contraceptives and the availability of abortion. Most sexually mature people do know how conception occurs. I find it interesting, but perhaps not overly surprising, that you only attribute objectification to women. Women in my world aren’t subservient to men.
“Abortion is a cowardly act anyway you look at it.” – that may be the way you look at it. Not so for me.
It is forced gestation which reduces women, in a number of ways.
I guess that means someone denied welfare is forced to rob banks, or that a date rapist is forced to drug his girlfriend if she denies him consensual sex. Hollywood is so insightful.
I’m not the one who hangs around outside abortion clinics or waves large images of shredded fetuses around in public.
Oh that’s right, you only support the legal killing of the real human behind the image.
There’d be no photos of those killed in the Holocaust if there were no Holocaust, Tmeister.
You are great for the prolife movement.
Tut tut, I support a great many more things than only abortion.
And you’re even better for it Praxedes :-)
Now I feel sick — heartsick, that is.
I watched it just now too, phillymiss and Jack. I’m heartsick and angry enough to spit nails.
You are in for a rude awakening Tmeister: the sexual revolution was not about men, Sherlock; and thus yes – women are subject to objectification especially as it relates to sexual behavior, which the feminists of the 60s and 70s fought so hard for. Perhaps you need to thank that era for the unintended consequence of objectification mainly attributed to women. That old saying: “you get what you asked for” is so apropos…
Reality the nudist doesn’t hang around abortion clinics ……he just hangs around a pro life blog every day. I wonder how many women he’s treated as sex objects and sent to the abortion clinic. We try to educate men and women so they won’t ruin their lives. Many women SEE an aborted baby and leave the clinic …their CHOICE!!!! That’s why we are there. I know women who live with the nightmare of their abortions. One woman went through with it and a week later approached one of the pastors and said “I wish I would have listened to you because I miss my baby already.” We are even there to support them after the damage has been done. And where are you? Waffeling around in the nude on a pro life blog not helping a soul. You are a disgusting human being Reality !!!
I awoke a very long time ago Thomas R., I hope that one day you may do so too.
“the sexual revolution was not about men” – that’s an extraordinarily limited and unrepresentative statement to make.
“women are subjected to objectification especially as it relates to sexual behavior” – I know! That’s why I take the positions I do and say the things I say. Glad you agree.
“you get what you asked for” – the problem being that too many men, especially those with power in various guises didn’t ‘get’ or like what women were asking for and have hijacked and derailed the whole concept and turned it back as a weapon against women.
If I were to respond in your evidence-free manner Heather, I could opine all sorts of baseless and spurious claims regarding your history and your actions. I shan’t.
“And where are you? Waffeling around in the nude on a pro life blog not helping a soul” I’m not currently in the nude. In fact I never am when I’m at the computer – or cooking! It’s an occasional thing when I’m wandering around the house and deck on a hot day not doing much.
And where are you Heather? Why, here you are!
As I said on another thread a couple of days ago – when I had the capacity to do so I helped with money and a little time. Nowadays I help by providing useful goods that I no longer need, such as furniture. Also a little bit of food. A while back I gave a desk I no longer needed to a single parent family whose son was starting high school. You know, someone beyond diapers.
You’re just so charming.
Reality I don’t give a rats a** what you think of me. I blog here because I am pro life. I do not understand why you are here every day saying nothing except abortion being grand and wonderful. I have TOLD you abortion is bad news and you would do well to educate yourself!!!! All you have to do is go to websites. Silent No More…Klanned Parenthood ..watch the video The Choice Blues. I can’t do it for you. I have told you stories about women suffering and sterile from abortion. Then you say “prove it” How? Do you want to give them a call? Just how can I prove it? Yet abortion is just wonderful to you. The solution to everything. BTW you didn’t deny sending anyone to the abortion clinic.
And not only have I told you. JILL has told you what went on at Christ Hospital. Heck they do the same thing at Metrohealth Medical Center….I had all of my kids there but idk they’ve been killing babies there for 30 years!!
Cleveland abortionist Murdering Martin Ruddock has botched sooooooo many abortions. Once the ambulance was there 4 times in 1 month. Listen to a few off his 911 calls where he is rude to the dispatcher. He cuts her off and says “um miss I’m a surgeon” when she was trying to get basic information on a deteriorating patient. He lost a 1 million $ lawsuit after a botched abortion and a now sterile woman. He’s getting sloppy and crazy! I have met him many times. He’s a maniac.
Pleased to hear it, now you know how I feel :-)
“saying nothing except abortion being grand and wonderful” – I know you’ve claimed you only skim read my comments. Perhaps you should read some of them properly if you wish to respond with any accuracy.
“I have TOLD you abortion is bad news and you would do well to educate yourself!!!!” – being educated on the topic is what has TOLD me that it is not bad news.
I’ve been to some of the websites you mention, and many more of a similar ilk. While they might reinforce what you have chosen to believe I find them quite unconvincing.
What I have asked you for proof of is your claims regarding certain abortion doctors and clinics. You haven’t delivered.
I have never, ever sent anyone to an abortion clinic.
“Heck they do the same thing at Metrohealth Medical Center” – there you go again.
Where is your evidence that he has “botched soooooo many abortions”? Hello?
Has he been convicted of murder? Charged even?
Do you know exactly why the ambulance was there 4 times in 1 month? If it actually was.
I’m sure he holds you in the highest regard too.
Oh and reality I did tell you the story about the woman I knew PERSONALLY who had 8 abortions. My ex got her pregnant with baby number 8 and she freaked out and wanted an abortion. He didn’t care either way. She required a hysterectomy after the 8th abortion because she had non stop bleeding. A real doctor TOLD her that her only hope was a hysterectomy. After the hysterectomy my ex found her lethargic with 3 empty bottles of vodka beside the couch where she was laying urine soaked. He got her to the hospital and she was admitted to ICU and almost died. She wouldn’t stop drinking after getting well because her abortions depressed her. This was in 96 and the last I had heard she was in AA. She and my ex broke up.
Yep I generally do skim or skip your posts because you are not educated. Martin Ruddock murders babies every day.
Shall I regale you with a few ‘stories’ Heather?
Call Metro 216 778 7800 ask for the OB clinic and see if your gf can get a late term abortion.
If you skim or skip why do you respond. Responding to stuff you haven’t read properly doesn’t exactly make your responses accurate.
Has he been charged or convicted?
Go ahead
Why on earth would I do that?
You could at least try to come up with a suggestion with same basis in feasability. Your suggestion is a babble of errors.
He’s been sued. His clinic has been closed for numerous health code violations. Uuuummmm why would an ambulance be at an abortion clinic? Cuz Marty effed up again.
Why on earth would I do that? You wouldn’t because then you would find out I am telling the truth!
Has he been charged with or convicted of murder?
You have no idea at all as to why an ambulance may have been called to his clinic.
“You wouldn’t because then you would find out I’m telling the truth!” – there are a myriad of factual reasons why I wouldn’t but that sure as heck isn’t one of them.
If what you say is factual then you would have some evidence. I’m not your undercover agent.
Reality uuuuhh okay go smoke another blunt.
Well your suggestion was ludicrous. In many ways.
I don’t do drugs.
I get the feeling there aren’t any left anyway ;-)
Really ? There are a lot of reasons you wouldn’t call and ask a simple question?? Lmao like what?
I knew a nudist once. He liked to go to nude beaches and answered his door nude once. Standing there sagging skin and other things. He’s dead now but he was creepy and gross.
He also bedded every woman he could ….I do not buy it that any of your girlfriends have not aborted.
So what simple question would you suggest?
Oh, you’re only claiming that they do abortions, is that it? I’ll believe that.
Any other claims you may have would not be confirmed either way simply by a phone call now would they?
I’m not a nudist. I don’t go to nude beaches. Or nude anywhere’s. Just in my own home, when I’m alone (or in the company of a special person). I would never answer the door naked, that’s in very poor taste.
There are a few things I don’t buy about you….. :-)
Well there are a lot of things I don’t buy about you.
Tell me do you believe all abortions go off without a hitch? Do you know anyone who has ever had one?
Tell me ….who do you know personally who has had an abortion?
You can’t afford to, it wouldn’t suit you now would it :-)
No.
Yes.
A range of people.
Time for me to go spend some time saving the planet for the rational, cheers.
Do you know of anyone who has had an abortion? That wasn’t an answer.
Who? Anyone close to you?
I have answered your question – I know and I know of.
Why on earth would I tell you.
As I said, I’m logging off now.
Most people aren’t interested in a pro life blog unless someone close to them has aborted.
Why are you on a pL blog if you wanted to share some personal stories about how every woman you know just loved her abortion experience? Come on lets hear it.
Win win for me tonight!!!
I’m just going to reiterate my useful advice about not feeding trolls and then be on my way.
Right JDC….I have just had it with him so I took him to task. He’s a coward!!!! That’s how you run trolls away.
Coward Heather? Run away Heather? I don’t think so, despite your wishing it so. I always return and respond where necessary. Just like everybody else here there are times when I need to attend to other things. So despite your fervent desire, I cannot be here 24/7.
Having a conversation with you is…..interesting. You only seem to ‘listen’ to one side and there may even be some question marks over that.
Win win? What, you scored third in the lucky draw and the last blunt wasn’t taken?
Ah, more of your incisive and edifying …..stuff, JDC.
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Finally we have a post from Tmeister with a blank (see above). May we have more of empty posts from him or perhaps none. Amen.
Do you need your eyes tested Thomas R.?
It’s not blank, can’t you see that?
I thought I’d provide a pictorial representation of the extent to which Heather had ‘taken me to task’. The system doesn’t seem to like empty posts so I found the smallest zero I could.
Yo mo’nature.
Ah, a ZERO. That is how much your comments are worth here tmeister.
My, such withering wit. How’re the new spectacles?