Happy Sunday! Here were my five favorite cartoons for the week. Be sure to vote for your fav in the poll at the bottom of the post!
by Ted Rall at GoComics.com…
by Steve Kelley at Townhall.com…
by Glenn Foden at Townhall.com…
complains liberal pro-abort hypocrite Tony Auth at GoComics.com…
by Chip Bok at Townhall.com (regarding this interview)…
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Response to number 5…
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/politicalcartoons/ig/Political-Cartoons/Benghazi-Outrage.htm
Good Morning Ex-GOP,
I’m curious…what exactly is your understanding of what went down in Benghazi and with the Obama administration’s response to it?
mmmike917 –
Here’s a brief summation on Benghazi – there’s a full report that was done – I’m personally not going to read it – doubt that most who continue on with Benghazi have read it – but it is out there if you are interested.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/31/new-york-times-benghazi_n_4522854.html
Its ironic that the site describes the author of cartoon #4 as a “pro-abort hypocrite”, when most viewers here are probably just as hypocritical but in the reverse alignment. That is, being pro-life and being pro death penalty.
I’m voting for #5 this week.
The one by Tony Auth–I thought that looked like an abortion chamber.
$5,
I look at the death penalty as protecting society from dangerous predators, just as you have a right to kill in self defense.
Take comfort in knowing that executed prisoners usually die far more humanely than their victims did, including that one in Oklahoma.
Mary – I actually would agree with you if it was in the 1700’s. We have good prison facilities now. We could protect more people by abolishing the DP and using all the cost savings within education, police funding, and other areas.
EGV,
Dream on. Dangerous convicts still escape, and they…gasp…murder people.
Predators are predators, and they’ll kill in prison if not out. Also, education and police funding wouldn’t have stopped Ted Bundy, I vaguely knew one of his victims and her fiancé, it didn’t stop those two escaped animals in CT who tied two teenage girls to a bed then set their house on fire, nor will it stop predators in the future.
I remember what Big Joe always had to say about those opposing the DP: “Just let them pull a few dead bodies out of a ditch and I promise you they’ll whistle a different tune”.
Mary very few inmates escape maximum security prisons nowadays. The main concern with the death penalty is innocent people being put to death. Over 100 people have been released from death row because of new evidence proving they did nothing.
Also, I just think it’s barbaric. We are perfectly capable of locking dangerous felons up for life, no need to kill them like we are like them. I don’t trust the state with citizens lives like that anyway. There’s also a huge racial bias in the death penalty, blacks and Latinos are much more likely to be sentenced to death even when their crimes are comparable to white inmates. It’s part of the larger problem of racial bias in the “justice” system but it’s deadly for blacks and Latinos.
Also (this is a bit utilitarian) it’s cheaper to lock someone up for life than have a capital punishment trial and appeals process.
I personally like the Catholic understanding of the death penalty, in that the Church only considers it legitimate if it is the only way to protect the public. That doesn’t apply to the US today.
And don’t pull the “if you saw this you’d be pro-death penalty” stuff!! I’ve seen plenty of absolutely horrifying crime and I still don’t think killing people is justice or necessary. Especially the way that prisoner in Oklahoma died. No civilized country should have something like that happen.
Hi Jack,
I’m all for stringent guidelines and DNA testing. Also, people aren’t convicted one day and offed the next. It is a drawn out process. The fact 100 innocent people have been released is encouraging and shows we are better able to establish innocence. BTW, one such “innocent” person released from prison thanks to some local do-gooders went on to torture, rape, and murder a young woman.
I suppose we shouldn’t have prisons either, since not everyone who goes to prison deserves to be there, or isn’t in prison that should be there. Nor is our prison system always the fairest and yes money talks.
Isn’t necessary to protect the public? Prison escapes do occur and not all murderers are in maximum security prisons. Also, what stops them from killing while in prison or arranging for someone’s murder with outsiders?
So you’ve seen absolutely horrifying crimes? Have you seen a young woman tortured, raped, shot, and buried alive? Did you witness the slaughter of 8 student nurses by Richard Speck, who revealed years later he knew perfectly well what he was
doing, had no remorse, and even enjoyed prison life? His victims’ parents had passed away years before from the heartbreak and strain of visits to the prison to keep him from getting parole. Have you been forced to go to parole meetings year after year to keep the murderer of someone you love from getting parole?
Sorry Jack but you and I will definitely not agree on this.
As for those two animals in CT, they are on death row. The jurors were offered counseling to cope with the horrifying testimony. The state failed miserably to protect citizens by giving these dirtbags parole, now hopefully they’ll do their duty now and soon. We can all take solace in knowing they will die far more humanely than their victims. Oh, so did Richard Speck.
As for that dirtbag in Oklahoma, you can take solace in knowing he died far more humanely than his victim. If he hadn’t raped, tortured, shot, and buried alive a 19 year old girl, after forcing her to watch her grave being dug, he might be alive today. He had a choice, she didn’t.
Murderers murder other inmates. I have a brother in prison. He is not a killer. But I’d rather he weren’t murdered by some guy who killed people on the outside already. Death penalty ensures the killer doesn’t kill again on the inside or outside.
That being said..I don’t know how I feel about death penalty. I am really kinda torn on the subject. I always tend up arguing pro-death penalty side. Not sure why. Even though I read comments against it and find myself nodding with agreement.
Mary I’m simply morally and I guess religiously now opposed to killing people, and that’s all there is to it.
The difference between an innocent person sent to prison and an innocent person put to death is that the person in prison can be released and given an apology and compensation. A person out to death wrongly cannot get that.
I’ve known several murder victims (goes along with being involved in the drug trade), as well as knowing some absolutely evil people like some of the drug lords. I’ve seen tons of violence and been victimized by violence multiple times. I still don’t think more killing is the answer to this nor does it right the wrongs done.
I do believe that for murders “life without parole” should mean exactly that. None of this constant being up for parole, if you commit second degree murder or anything worse I believe you should be imprisoned for life. I believe the same for raping a small child, you shouldn’t ever be free again after that. Actually in Florida raping a child under twelve can be tried as a capital crime, which means my abusers could have been put to death for their crimes if they had been turned in. I wouldn’t want that though, I think life in prison would have been appropriate justice for me, if they had been put to death I think I would just feel guilty, it wouldn’t have healed what was done to me. I have read stories from some parents who had children who were murdered who also don’t believe that the death penalty is right.
My brother is in prison for I think seven more years. He’s ten years older than me, so I would have been like fourteen when he was twenty-four and he beat his girlfriend almost to death with a golf club because she confronted him about molesting her son (it was never proven that he committed the molestation but I believe he did, he did the same to me). Did my brother do an absolutely terrible thing? Yes, of course. Does he deserve the twenty years he got for the crime? Yep, actually I personally believe he should never get out because he sexually abused children (like I said, it’s a capital crime in Florida to rape a kid under the age of twelve) and never paid for it. Do I think he should have been put to death, if she had died or for what he did to me and her kid? Nope. I don’t see how killing him would have fixed the damage he did, and it’s more justice in my opinion that he languish away in a crappy southern prison than just get a quick death. And while he’s in prison he apparently has worked on himself, he got counseling and got an education, and works with one of the programs to improve inmates social skills and make them take responsibility for their crimes and restitution to their victims. He called me and he’s still the only person from my terrible childhood who has ever bothered to apologize for anything that was done to me. He also called the girlfriend after getting permission from her to do so through his lawyer, and apparently she appreciated that.
I just think that death is so very final and the state doesn’t have the right. And I believe that there is more opportunity for justice and maybe even healing with life (in a secure, max security prison of course) in prison than if we just off everyone who kills anyone.
Sydney I forgot we both had a brother in prison. I don’t like taking about my brother much because it kinda breaks my heart. He wasn’t always so bad, he was quite a good older brother until I was like eight or nine, them he just got worse and worse as he got older. :( I still think he doesn’t deserve to get out of prison ever and he’s been in for so long that I fear he is probably really institutionalized, but it still makes me sad. It’s really a wasted life.
Mary –
With an average time to execution of 8+ years, the whole argument regarding people escaping or killing others doesn’t hold much weight. Nor is there much evidence.
What is clear though is that we spend a heck of a lot more executing somebody then giving them life in prison.
Hi Jack,
I understand and respect your perspective. My issue is not with you, for whom I have a great deal of respect. Its with cold blooded killers. Predators who have and will kill again, who have committed such horrific crimes, and from whom society must be protected. Yes I believe there is pure evil out there, people who will never change but are good at making others think they have. People who only need and want another opportunity to strike.
I remember the case years ago of some guy, I believe it was in Kentucky, who was fried for the rape and murder of his sister in law. Long before his execution he put on a performance worthy of an Oscar. He appeared on Time Magazine as an innocent man to be executed, organizations formed to free him, religious leaders backed him. He was truly a man who found God. He was railroaded! He was innocent! This was prior to DNA testing.
Sure he had a history of sexual perversion and violence, including attempted rape at gunpoint, but who’s perfect? When DNA testing came into vogue these groups demanded the DA have the DNA tested to prove their long dead hero innocent. Be careful what you wish for. The DNA proved he was the rapist and murderer. Needless to say his admirers and supporters realized they had been had. This guy wanted out of prison and obviously didn’t want to fry. Give it to him, he pulled one master con job.
These people are often master manipulators. Ted Bundy tried this same garbage with Dr. Dobson. I was disappointed how Dobson fell for it.
That’s why I didn’t believe Carla Faye Tucker for a minute. If she found God, great. Or maybe it was just a stellar performance. She deserved to be executed and was. She died far more humanely than her victim who she hacked with a hatchet.
EGV,
Not every murderer is on death row. Some are in for life. Great. Now let’s hope they don’t kill anyone in prison, arrange with outsiders to have someone killed, or manipulate someone into helping them escape.
In 1978 Gary Tyson and Randy Greenawalt, convicted murderers with life sentences, escaped a maximum security prison in Arizona thanks to Tyson’s ability to manipulate his dimwitted sons. Seven people died before they were caught, including a two year old child, his parents, and his 15 y/o cousin in their car in the Arizona desert. Well not quite, the 15y/o was able to drag her shattered body from the car and pull herself to the road, hoping a passing vehicle would find her. She died of exposure.
Tyson and one of his sons died in a police shootout. Greenawalt was executed. Too bad it wasn’t done years sooner.
I stand corrected,
According to two different sources, this was either a minimum or medium security prison which both killers were in for “good behavior”. Trust the state to protect us.
Also, it was 6, not 7 victims. A young couple camping were also killed.
Mary –
You will find no shortage of awful examples and people.
What you’ll have a harder time with is justifying the increased cost. Maybe I’m just more of a fiscal conservative…
Furthermore, the arbitrary nature of the DP cheapens life. When the same heinous crimes result in such differing sentences, it hardly screams fair.
Number one is amusing.
Number two less so.
Number three is a bit odd.
Number four is just completely pointless.
Number five demonstrates the lunacy of elements of the right.
Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. Genesis 9:6 KJV.
I’m FROM Oklahoma. I’ve had to hear on the news for WEEKS the crimes those two animals committed!
Clayton Lockett beat, raped and robbed an 18 year-old girl, then buried her ALIVE.
The other animal, Charles Warner raped and murdered AN 11 MONTH-OLD BABY ! Her injuries were this :
“The Patriot News reports that “during the ultimately fatal attack she was sexually molested. She had a six-inch skull fracture, a broken jaw, three broken ribs, bruised lungs and a lacerated liver and spleen.”
If EVER two “people” DESERVED the Death Penalty, it’s these two !
They’ve lived long enough at TAXPAYER EXPENSE !
Pre-born babies have committed no crime. They are COMPLETELY INNOCENT, yet their death is MORE inhumane than death row inmates ! This particular inmate was TAZED earlier in the day, because he was out of control. Most “executions” have not gone like this. They were trying a new combination of drugs that they have never tried before (not a good idea). He had refused food and water and, thus, was dehydrated -which caused his vein to “blow”.
MOST executed inmates get to die a very HUMANE death. Their heart slows, their respiration ceases…
A much LESS PAINFUL death than most of their victims suffer.
One (Death Row execution) has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other (abortion).
EGV,
I see the DP as no more arbitrary than our criminal justice system.
After all, Al Capone only served time for income tax evasion. Syphilis did to him what the criminal justice system should have. He died far more humanely than most of his victims.
I hear you loud and clear Pamela! The killers had a choice, their victims didn’t. Concerning Lockett, well, ain’t karma a b—h!
Check out the movie “A killer in the family” on youtube starring Robert Mitchum. Its about the Tison gang which I discussed earlier. One of the best, though not only, arguments for capital punishment I have yet to see.
Mary –
Arbitrary is one thing when you’re handing out tickets. When you are taking lives, it isn’t acceptable.
EGV,
I agree it should be less arbitrary. There are plenty more people who should fry as far as I’m concerned. However, so long as those getting it deserve it, I have no problem with it.
Our justice system leaves much to be desired, that’s for sure.
I believe “humane execution” is a contradiction in terms.
It saddens me when pro-lifers speak in such bloodthirsty terms. I don’t really think our justice system should be predicated on vengeance. I believe it should first be focused on protecting the public, and second on rehabilitation for those that rehabilitation is possible. I don’t think the death penalty advances either of these goals. It’s not been shown to act as a deterrent, it’s more expensive, and I don’t believe the state should have the right to put people to death.
Clearly I don’t think people who, without remorse, rape and murder eighteen year olds are capable of being rehabilitated, but I think justice is served by locking up the people who do such things for the rest of their natural lives. And even people who express remorse like my brother, some of them shouldn’t be out of prison either. I believe people like my brother are dangerous even of they feel bad about their crimes, and should remain in jail.
But I don’t believe in vengeance, I don’t believe it’s the same thing as justice. I think that it’s apparent from the comments here that people see putting killers and rapists to death is vengeance and I don’t think that’s what the state should be doing. And I’ve read some very touching articles from the families of crime victims where they received no catharsis from the execution of the person who killed their loved one, and they wish that he/she had received life in prison instead.
I find it interesting no one likes to touch on the racial aspects of the implementation of the death penalty. Do you think it’s blind justice when black and white people receive different punishments for committing the same type of crimes? Or is it indicative of some deep bias in the system and maybe a system with that type of bias shouldn’t be putting people to death?
I also think the furore would have been more widespread if a cruel and unusual execution had taken place on a white person LDPL.
Hi Jack,
I disagree. I think most are executed far more humanely than they deserve
I support it because its just punishment for heinous crimes. I’m far more concerned with how the victim, who had no choice died. I’m also concerned with possible future victims both inside and out of prison.
Now, if we ran prisons like the Russians do and had a few Black Dolphin prison systems for the likes of Lockett,Speck, and the Manson killers, then I might reconsider. The Russians have some absurd notion that dangerous and violent prisoners should be treated as the criminals they are and that prison should indeed be punishment. You wouldn’t see any situation like Richard Speck with his enlarged breasts enjoying drugs. However, we would get the sob sisters wailing how we should treat convicts more humanely and lawsuits galore..
Reality,
Seems to me the outrage is pretty widespread. Its gone international. Have you heard similar outrage over how his victim died? Would it be more so if she was black or hispanic?
Two can play that game.
Well I’ve been to jail (not prison) multiple times, and I don’t think the punitive aspects help us as a society at all. We imprison more of our population than any other developed country and we have the worst recidivism rates in the entire developed world. There is a reason criminals are criminals, and if we are talking about nonviolent offenses like drugs or theft being “tough on crime” has not been working out for us. Really, I met my best drug hookups on jail. And for some violent offenses (namely drug related and gang relates violent crimes) recidivism can be helped by getting people out of the lifestyle.
If you look at countries that have focused on rehabilitation as opposed to punishment, including things like education and mental healthcare and addiction services, you’ll see that their recidivism and overall crime rates are much, much lower than ours. We might want to reconsider our redneck “eye for an eye” criminal “justice” system because it appears to perpetuate the problem.
Btw Mary, I watched my father (who tormented and raped me repeatedly since I was just a baby until I was seventeen, seriously the man was a horrific sadist) die a very painful death from liver disease. It took him a long time to die. Watching him suffer and be in pain didn’t give me any satisfaction, it didn’t fix anything he did. His suffering didn’t erase mine or even help me feel better. I don’t think punishing and hurting people who hurt others helps the victims in the long run, though it might just be me, I don’t really have a stomach for people suffering even people like my dad or brother.
“Seems to me the outrage is pretty widespread. Its gone international” – indeed, yet I feel it would be more so if the man had been white.
“Have you heard similar outrage over how his victim died?” – it would not have been as widely broadcast as it was one of the many murders which sadly take place. Compared to one of the much smaller number of executions, which are conducted by the state.
“Would it be more so if she was black or hispanic?” – probably less so, that’s the point.
“Two can play that game” – I don’t consider it a game.
Hi Jack,
Crime and punishment has long been debated. I am not for brutality and treating people cruelly, but I am for punishment. When I hear how the someone like Speck enjoyed prison I get ill. What a torment to his victims’ survivors, especially when he further mocked them with his indifference and lack of remorse.
When it comes to the most vile and violent of criminals, the Russians have the right ideas as far as I’m concerned.
It turns my stomach to hear what your father did to you Jack and I don’t for a minute believe you would derive any satisfaction from watching someone suffer. I just hope you will have some level of closure.
To me the DP isn’t about personal satisfaction anymore than a prison sentence is. Its about punishment, its about protecting society. Some people are so unspeakably evil, including Lockett, Speck, and those two dirtbags that killed those girls in CT, that society has to be protected and yes, they must be punished. To me executing them is no different than you or I using a weapon in our homes to defend our families.
Reality,
So how much more widespread do you want it? How much more widespread would it be if Lockett was white? Please be specific
Please answer my question, have you heard an equal amount of outrage over how the victim died? Yes or no?
Probably less so, that’s the point. What’s the point?
15%
Are you saying you didn’t get that “it would not have been as widely broadcast as it was one of the many murders which sadly take place. Compared to one of the much smaller number of executions, which are conducted by the state” means no?
The point is that things get a little ‘louder’ when the person concerned is white. But you knew that.
Reality,
It sounds more like a lot of evasive mumbo jumbo, but thank you for the clarification. You acknowledge that the victim got no where the acknowledgement or sympathy her killer got.
So tell me how things got a little louder because she was white? I barely heard anything much about her at all an still don’t.
There are some parts of the country that may be more racist than others true, but in terms of the death penalty of 2013/2014 prosecutors are doing much better homework than used to be done in the past. Still, exonerations are very rare.
But at the end of the day, when the guilt is undisputable, skin color of the murderer has no bearing on anything. I’m with Mary – another voice for the victims. Illinois did away with the death penalty and defendant’s sentenced for murder, receive accomodations for life on my dime: three squares, a weight room, a decent library which enables them to become prison lawyers and some good inside action (take it however you like) WHILE their victim/s get the six feet under treatment. Justice, isn’t it????
Thomas I’m talking statistically. Statistically whites are much less likely to be put to death with convicted of murder than blacks or Latinos are. Whether we like it or not there’s a deep systemic bias there, it’s indicative of the disproportionate sentencing that has been proven to exist for all crimes, murder isn’t the only one. I’m sorry, I’m not going to trust a government with that kind of bias with people’s lives.
Anyway, you guys are still talking vengeance, not justice.
Thomas, I’m just curious, so you divert from the Catholic Church’s stance on the death penalty?
It’s cheaper on “your dime” to keep people in prison for life than it is to put them to death.
Death penalty is to be reserved for the worst of the worst, is that the understanding? Removing the death penalty from total consideration based on procedural flaws is not the answer. The death penalty is not in question but the systemic issues are.
The argument in Illinois centered on revamping the system instead of taking the death penalty completely off the table . Now the likes of Gacy will have a field day in Illinois’ prisons. Hooray you say????
The democrats answer is to always cut/cut/cut instead of looking at how to fix/fix/fix. And guess what, our wonderful democratic governor in IL cannot keep our penal system in check. Read about how underfunded and problematic it has become. And I thought doing away with the death penalty was going to make it better, haha ;)
And that fiscal responsibility argument does not fly either. Defendant’s sentenced to death have constitutional rights to an appeals process but not to dragging it out for years on end. Again, not a death penalty issue but how the system allows for appeals to play out. Attorneys raising post-conviction claims based on frivolous issues and sometimes the race card where it does not apply or other “procedural” grounds that drag the appeals out for years. I am a proponent of restricting the time for appeals to five years than the critics would not be crying about the average eight years it takes for the appeals to run their course….
Thomas, I agree with the USCCB and Pope John Paul II, among others, on the death penalty: http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/death-penalty-capital-punishment/catholic-campaign-to-end-the-use-of-the-death-penalty.cfm.
I don’t find the death penalty justice. Period the end. If you do there’s really not much to discuss.
I’m not “hurray” about anything to do with murder. I don’t think murdering murderers fixes the murder though. Or the rape of a child, or anything like that. That’s why I brought up my dad. I watched him die a painful death and it didn’t make me feel like justice was served or anything. If anything I wish he was alive to spend years in prison. As it is he’s just dead.
I do strongly disagree with limiting appeals though. If y’all insist that people need to die for their crimes, you best be making sure that they have every opportunity to prove it if they didn’t do it.
Not limiting appeals Jack but the time to file and hear them or was I not clear enough. If the defendant’s are guaranteed swift hearing process so the system can require limitations of time. Most death penalty appeals are resolved w/in five years anyway, its the dragging it out that costs the system money.
And since you missed my first paragraph – the worst of the worst is my position….
Who decides worst of the worst? You? Me? The jury? The judge? People’s worst might be completely different things.
If we revamp the penal code, the jury will…
I think I may have brought up in the past a true story movie/book that touches on the capital punishment subject: Dead Man Walking.
Have any of you seen it?
This thread has made me pretty sick to read.
I used to be in favor of the DP. But now… not so much. I couldn’t even read one news article describing the death of the inmate.
And before everyone freaks out about how I don’t care about the victims, how they died is horrific. It’s terrible. But somehow I just am not comfortable with putting someone to death.
And it’s y’alls language that is very offputting. “Let him fry?” That’s vengeance talk, not justice. That phrase to me is rather sick. And reading the comments on any of these news articles is the same. Let him fry! followed by any number of terrifying, horrible, violent descriptions of what horrific punishment should be visiting upon the murders.
Why are we so okay with violence? No, the murderers don’t deserve life but that’s not up to us, IMO.
And I agree that I’m not comfortable with the state’s ability to put people to death.
As for me, I’m going to err way on the side of rehabilitation/life in prison than death.
And for those of you who say prison is too cushy, no its not. You’re spending your life in a cage. That’s a horrible psychological punishment, and worse than death, imo.
Sorry to those who have family in prison. That’s so sad. Even if they deserve it, it’s hard. :(
I haven’t seen it because I refuse to watch Sean Penn movies Prax but I heard that it was a really emotional look at the subject and they represented both sides pretty well. I can’t really judge it on second hand info though.
“And it’s y’alls language that is very offputting. “Let him fry?” That’s vengeance talk, not justice. That phrase to me is rather sick.”
Yup, it’s like when people wish prison rape on felons (I’ve even seen people wish prison rape on non-violent offenders! I didn’t know selling pot was a rape-worthy crime in some people’s eyes!!). It’s just… nasty and certainly not about justice.
“You acknowledge that the victim got no where the acknowledgement or sympathy her killer got” – yes, I did.
“So tell me how things got a little louder because she was white? I barely heard anything much about her at all an still don’t” – I’m quite happy to stand back while you say that white victims of crime and white criminals don’t get things a little better than black victims and criminals Mary.
Reality,
“Yes I did”–Well glad that is settled.
Please address the question. How did things get a little louder for Lockett’s victim because she was white?
Glad you’ve caught up.
What do you mean ‘how’ did things get louder? More press coverage, more outcry. But don’t you really mean ‘why’?
Reality,
No I meant exactly what I said. How?
More press coverage, more outcry. Examples please.
Yes, that.
I think the movie was very well done, Jack. I oppose the death penalty although I would probably feel different if it were someone I loved who was a victim of a heinous crime. The movie gave me a deeper appreciation for those who minister to the worst of the worst.
P.S. I am also so happy that you found a church home that you feel welcomed into!
A recent death row study postulates that more than 4% of convicted persons on death row could be innocent. In my opinion, if ONE innocent person has been executed, that’s it. We blew it.
As someone who has been involved in a very violent crime and saw my boyfriend killed in front of me years ago, I absolutely used to have revenge fantasies. I used to stay up nights thinking about all the terrible things I’d love to do to him if he was ever caught.
It never brought me peace. Death is not something that makes peace. It just adds more death to a situation where there’s already been too much. Revenge sounds good when we’re angry and sad and don’t know what else to do with ourselves. But afterwards it’s just empty.