Missing from George Tiller’s eulogy
Of everything I read about the June 6 funeral of late-term abortionist George Tiller, I thought this was the most telling, from the New York Times:
But for the most part, Dr. Tiller’s funeral focused less on his work than on his life with his family and friends. The word abortion was never uttered….
This shows they all knew. Tiller was unjustly murdered for his “life’s” work by a mentally unstable person, but the reason was not mentionable? Very sad. Even in death George Tiller’s “vocation” was anathema.
Imagine eulogizing anyone else murdered for a cause without lauding that for which they were slain. It would be a travesty….
“Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort.” – Eulogy by Bobby Kennedy “[I]n a large measure he made this country, during the last 30 years or more, attain to heights of sacrifice which in that particular domain have never been equaled elsewhere. He succeeded in that.” – Eulogy by Jawaharlal Nehru about Mahatma Gandhi “This is what makes her murder such a disaster…. She was attempting to make the connection between lack of democracy in Pakistan and the rise of mullah-manipulated fanaticism.” – Eulogy by Christopher Hitchens about Benazir Bhutto “Nor can there be a correct history of this nation, as it has passed through this great struggle for existence, without the life of Abraham Lincoln, and without connecting his name with that immortal proclamation which gave freedom and manhood to four millions of bondmen.” – Eulogy by Henry Champion
Imagine the eulogies of those killed in the line of duty – police officers, firemen, soldiers – without mentioning that for which they sacrificed their lives. Again, a travesty.
Yet mention of Tiller’s cause célèbre was utterly ignored, indeed a travesty if that for which Tiller was killed was so heroic. The closest anyone came? According to the NYT:
Most carried white carnations and wore a button that read, “Attitude is everything.” The button held special significance. Dr. Tiller, a lover of axioms, had worn a similar button for more than 25 years.
At the front of the sanctuary, beside a framed photograph of Dr. Tiller, was a large wreath that framed a simple sign, “Trust Women.”
At this moment I feel sorry for George Tiller. His death was a tragedy in all regards. That for which he dedicated his career – sacrificed his life – should have been heralded, not concealed, most certainly not trivialized by a button.
Unless, of course, there is something wrong with abortion.
[Photo attribution: New York Times; button attribution: positivepromotions.com]
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Tiller’s son, Maury, was the only member of the family to refer to the shooting.
“I struggle with the manner in which he was welcomed into heaven,” he said.
But he was comforted by memories of the last weekend, when Tiller spent time with his children.
After that, he said, “I believe that God decided, ‘You have done everything I asked a person to do here on earth. Now I will show the world what a loving, compassionate, courageous, selfless man you are.’ And so it happened.”
http://www.kansas.com/news/tiller/story/842781.html
“Trust Women”
That was the button worn by Carhart from nebraska. Pics are floating around showing hsi pig sty abortion parlor.
Tiller has had his appearnce infront of the Judge. The Judge has his own laws. Tiller is judged by them. Yes Jesus is judgemental.
He has extra emphasis on people that hurt children.
How truly tragic. Such a demented lifestyle–holding “Christian” funeral services for babies you butchered yourself! o__O His wife singing The Lord’s Prayer! o__O Oh, Lord, have mercy!!!
So very sad what our world has come to. So many have become blind to this EVIL (abortion).
The world celebrates the work of evil men such as Tiller — http://iamdrtiller.com/ and use terms like “moral”, “good”, “brave” “heroic” “Christian professional,” even “martyr” to describe him.
They call us “hateful”. Is abortion not the most extreme form of hate?? Is it not torture? Is it not sheer terror?
They call him “good” & “moral”. Do they even know what morality is? What more is left if an abortionist is called “good” and “moral”?
They call him “brave”. Is abortion not the worst form of cowardice? Both for those seeking the
“easy way out” & “doctors” preying on helpless, defenseless infants & killing them by the thousands.
“To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.” Titus 1:15-16
I read Tiller’s obituary and while it mentioned he was a doctor, of course, no mention of his “specialty.”
Even the most pro abort people know deep down its wrong. Otherwise why cover it up?
“I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me…….” – Jesus Christ.
If an unborn child in the womb is not considered “the least of these”, I really don’t know who Jesus was talking about.
If Jesus did not mean to include “the least of these” in that statement, it means that God does not care about the unborn at all.
I don’t think that is the case. If God cares about sparrows as Jesus taught, he certainly cares for the unborn.
Here’s the context in which Jesus’ statement is found.
“Matthew 25:35-41 (New International Version)
35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37″Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40″The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
41″Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Let me ask this question; Why is it OK for pro-choicers to “use” the Bible to glorify what they do when what they do so contradicts what the Bible teaches?
I hate to pop your theological bubbles but God is pro-life not pro-choice.
Did Jesus care about Dr. Tiller? Of course he did. But if Tiller is in heaven it’s not because of anything he did, it’s because Christ died for him on the cross and Tiller acknowleged Christ as the Son of God. Sorry, there’s no bragging rights in heaven since none of us deserves it. But if one, even with minimal intelligence, by reading the passage in Matthew, cannot identify “the least of these” as synonymous with Christ, you have to wonder if he understood and knew who Christ was.
They said that Tiller was a “Christian” I thought Christians were crazy!
Those poor, poor abortion protesters in Wichita…whatever will they do now?
Closed Clinic Leaves Abortion Protesters at a Loss
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/us/08wichita.html
Ray, they will probably find something else to do to serve the lord.
Here’s the problem. He didn’t help women.
Some of his abortion patients even made the claim that he was rude and mean to them.
I think it is wrong to assume that someone went to heaven or someone did not go to heaven and state such although we all love to do that more as self-comforting and self-soothing than anything.
What we should say to ourselves and others is that “God is in control, is a loving and forgiving God and all of His judgments are true”. Let’s face it, none of us knows. Also, this should not keep us from warning people that to continue in sin and rejection of Christ will result in an eternity in hell and that acceptance of Christ will result in an eternity in heaven. This is not judging, this is proclaiming truth.
To state and assume that someone is in heaven or hell is the exact kind of judgment that Jesus condemned when he said the following, “judge not lest ye be judged”.
Why did Jesus say this? He said it because we are not to base how we live solely on how others live or lived. Rather our lives must be lived based on the teaching of God’s Word. If we judge incorrectly that the way someone lived earned them a spot if heaven, we could make a grave and eternal error. We are to follow Christ and those that follow Christ and only after it is confirmed that their lives conform to God’s word.
I mean, if I were an impressionable young person attending Mr. Tillers’ funeral, I would have to come away with the assumption that being an abortion doctor doing at least 60,000 procedures could earn me a spot through the pearly gates. Really? Sounds like the 72 virgins reward that Muslims who die as martyrs get.
Here’s a very stern warning in the book of Hebrews: (please take special note of verses 26 and 27).
Hebrews 10:25-40 (New International Version)
25Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. 33Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. 34You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions.
35So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. 36You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. 37For in just a very little while,
“He who is coming will come and will not delay.
38But my righteous one will live by faith.
And if he shrinks back,
I will not be pleased with him.” 39But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved.”
So friends, to live as a Christian is a sacred duty and God is not mocked. Sin is a direct affront to His holy nature. The Christian walk requires a life of continual self-examination and repentance, like the pruning of a fruit tree. A life lived like this will result in the fruits of the Spirit which are: love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
Knowing what the practice of abortion is I cannot see where any of these fruits are evident in one’s life or found in one who does them, supports them or has them. In fact, just the opposite is true.
Remember this, Satan came to kill, steal, and destroy, which are all fruits and characteristics of abortion.
Peace to you all.
We are hardly “at a loss.” There are quite a few other abortion clinics, so I’m told. :)
Heather,
Let’s pray the women that were treated so horribly by Tiller SPEAK UP!!
Ray, having Tiller gone gives the Crisis Pregnancy Centers more opportunities to help women in need- with actual help.
It is pretty sad when your profession can’t even be mentioned at your own funeral!
Is it naptime yet, Bethany? Please take it easy. :)
“Trust Women”–except if they want to drink alcohol when under-age.
“Trust Women”–because their boyfriends are coercing them.
“Trust Women”–because Planned Parenthood doesn’t trust their parents.
“Trust Women”–because they trusted a Dr. Tiller.
“Trust Women”–because the first Woman trusted the devil.
“Trust Women”–because they are said to be gods, knowing good and evil.
“Trust Women”–because they are now legally persons.
“Trust Women”–because they don’t want us to say, “Trust Mothers”
“Trust Women”–because they don’t believe we can say, “Trust Men”
“Trust Women”–because our coins say, “In God we trust”
Thanks, Carla…I’ve been napping on and off! :) I’m surprised that today the pain seems to be a less intense than yesterday. Maybe that means I’m getting better. Crossed fingers! :)
The choicist organizations say the reason they defend legalized abortion is because they supposedly want to protect women from dangeorus illegal abortionists.
Tiller was a danger not only to babies but also to their mothers. He routinely ignored patient safety and broke laws.
But instead of the choicist groups helping to put him out of business, they (and his powerful pro-abort political allies) helped him to stay in business.
And he’s not the only illegal and/or dangerous abortionist that the pro-aborts have defended or covered up for while assuring women that they are ‘safe’.
Bethany! I am sorry that you aren’t feeling well — I hope you are feeling better soon :)
Thank you, Eileen!
I’m sure throughout Tiller’s “career”, there are/were at least some RN Brenda Shafers as well. Please, LORD, may they SPEAK UP in defense of the unborn!
Ugh, this whole thing just keeps getting creepier. The fact that they’re treating his abortions as some sort of work for God is really distrubing. Prayers for everyone involved.
Heather 10:41AM
I was thinking that as well!! :)
Christians are crazy, but Tiller was a Christian?! Hhhhmmmmm…
well here is an interesting twist on the Tiller situation.
It appears that Tiller was excommunicated by the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and subsequently joined the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America which has a more “friendly” approach to abortion.
“What none of these stories have explained is that Tiller had previously been excommunicated by a Lutheran congregation on account of his lack of repentance about and refusal to stop his occupation. That Lutheran congregation was a member of my church body, the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod. Excommunication doesn’t happen terribly frequently in this day and age but it’s not unheard of.
When the news broke, I had many people who know that I’m Lutheran ask how it was possible that his church had not disciplined him or otherwise encouraged him to stop performing abortions.
The story goes on to quote various people about how Tiller’s church membership changes the dynamics of the abortion debate. How can they not mention that he was previously excommunicated for his abortion work? It’s such an interesting and significant part of the story! That’s just a huge hole.
So once again we see the mainstream media giving us half of the story. Here was a “cafeteria” Christian who was ex-communicated from his denomination for his refusal to repent and change his ways. The media ignored this aspect of Tiller’s life as they ignored exactly what he did for a living.
Instead they tried to promote the idea that one could still be a loving church going christian on Sundays and go to work the next day, crushing babie skulls and sucking their brains out in the name of compassionate health care for women.
here’s the link:
http://www.getreligion.org/?p=13316
Could you imagine having a service for your father and feeling like you couldn’t mention what it was that he dedicated his life to? For your husband? How absolutely sad!
George Tiller was constantly being told that he was a hero, a champion for women’s rights. He was living in a world where his career wasn’t just acceptable: it was encouraged.
I wonder what he would have wanted his eulogy to sound like?
HisMan,
I think in most cases, you are correct in saying that we cannot assume to know who does and does not go to Heaven. I think in some cases, however, you can honestly say that someone went to Heaven. Recent deaths that come to mind: Mother Theresa, Pope John Paul II.
Very interesting, Angel.
I have some very serious misgivings about the church Tiller attended. It seems very misguided.
well I thing the important thing is that the media is trying to muddy the issue here.
It doesn’t matter whether or not you go to church. The question is: Is abortion morally wrong? Do we have the right to kill another human being when they are in their mother’s womb?
I think by stating that Tiller was a church going abortionist, some how this makes him more mainstream, more legit, more of a moral loving human being. The fact is, he killed babies. He killed full term babies in the most gruesome way possible. There was no difference in what he did than if he had birthed the babies and wrung their necks with his bare hands.
Having said all this, I also believe it was wrong to murder him.
Speaking of not being able to use the word “abortion”…. good article here by Newsbusters about the Abortion Broadcasting Network as they are calling ABC and their pro abort stories.
Absolutely chilling to hear Carhart admit late term abortions can take up to five days, and then the woman “miscarries” a dead fetus.
Now tell me….. how on earth can these abortions that can take up to 5 days be for the mother’s “health”? If her health is at risk the baby can be delivered by ceasearean and attemps to save it. That way the mom is not pregnant any longer, but there is no intent to kill the baby.
And doctors are saving babies as small as one pound these days.
I think these late abortions for the “health” of the woman are a red herring.
Here’s the Newsbusters article (my favorite site!)
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/colleen-raezler/2009/06/08/abc-abortion-broadcasting-company
First a vacation to/in Disney World and then the first week in ____ for eternity?
Now tell me….. how on earth can these abortions that can take up to 5 days be for the mother’s “health”? If her health is at risk the baby can be delivered by ceasearean and attemps to save it. That way the mom is not pregnant any longer, but there is no intent to kill the baby.
And doctors are saving babies as small as one pound these days.
Joanne,
So are doctors not outraged? Why are hospitals not outraged? Is it the cost involved in taking are of these high-risk pregnancies? If I were one of these women being sent to an abortionist, I’d want to know why my doctor wasn’t willing to take care of me until the natural end of the pregnancy….
Joanne,
I’m agreeing with you, in case it’s not obvious.
My first sentence should read “So why are doctors not outraged?
MaryRose:
Yes, by the fruits of Mother Theresa and John Paul we knew them.
I look forward to meeting them.
Excommunication is a rare occurence in american christendom today. But mr Tiller managed to get himself excommunicated from a Luthern [Missouri Synond] congregation.
But then the persecuted suffering servant found not only acceptance, but loving encouragement from another more ‘tolerant’ Luthern [Evangelical Luthern Church of America, (ELCA)] congregation.
One has to wonder who received more financial support from mr. Tiller, his local congregation or democrats.
A good indication of where a man’s heart lies is where he ‘chooses’ to invest his treasure. [Jesus said something like that.]
What you have to do to get yourself disfellowshipped from the ELCA?
Admit to listening to Rush Limbaugh or publicly professing a belief in the inerrancy of the ‘book’?
It is not like mr. Tiller’s ‘deathlihood’ was a closely guarded secret.
All you had to do was visit Tiller’s website or call and talk to one of Tiller’s sales staff on the phone.
One could never correctly claim, ‘George Tiller was ‘luke warm’.
‘Judgement begins with the house of God’. I am sure I read that somewhere in the ‘book’.
[Hint: The ‘house of God’ is not a building.]
yor bro ken
ps: Can a ‘congregation’ be excommunicated?
HisMan,
I hope I get the opportunity! :)
Genuinely.
http://www.dr-tiller.com/experience.html
Lots of help.
So are doctors not outraged? Why are hospitals not outraged? Is it the cost involved in taking are of these high-risk pregnancies? If I were one of these women being sent to an abortionist, I’d want to know why my doctor wasn’t willing to take care of me until the natural end of the pregnancy….
Posted by: Janet at June 8, 2009 5:24 PM
As I said, the whole idea of “abortion to save the life of the mother” is a smoke screen used by liberals. After all, it’s hard to argue with abortion on those grounds….. but harder to justify abortion for many other reasons.
According to nearly all of the state run media Tiller only did abortions for the above reason or because the unborn baby had some terrible condition. They ignore the fact that he even admitted doing abortions right up to the due date, doing abortions on girls as young as 11 (were the authorities notified of rape?) as well as others.
Yes there can be conditions such as preeclampsia which can be life threatening to the mom. It often happens later in pregnancy, and as I said, doctors can save babies as small as one pound.
A c-section saves the mom and hopefully the baby as well. At least there is no intent to kill.
A late term abortion is never medically necessary.
Joanne,
Pre-eclampsia is common in pregnancies, nowadays, comparatively with many other conditions. It’s well-known in hospitals and quite manageable. Occasionally, labor has to be induced before the baby can be saved, which is tragic, it’s true. However, you needn’t go to an abortion clinic for this procedure. They’ll do it in the hospital.
Actually, I have a friend who delivered without cesarean and was pre-eclamptic. Her daughter is 2 and both mother and daughter are quite healthy. Yes, hers is a relatively unusual result, but the more common result is a safe and healthy c-sec.
The only actually life-threatening case to the mother I am aware of is ectopic pregnancy, which is generally caught relatively early on, considering that the child is growing in the fallopian tube. It, again, is treated in hospitals.
Joanne,In an August 26th, 1991 article in the Kansas Star, Tiller’s spokesperson admits tha 3/4 of Tiller’s late term patients are teenagers who hid their pregnancies until they became obvious.
Lauren,
That doesn’t surprise me at all…. but it’s guaranteed the state run media will never report this. And how many of those teen pregnancies were reported to authorities? It’s rape if the girl is under age, even if she consented to sex.
Carla and Mary Rose…. I agree 100%.
From the Washington Times:
“Dr. LeRoy Carhart, one of the nation’s few providers of late-term abortions, called on the federal government to treat as hate crimes all activities by “anti-choice domestic terrorists,” compared the slain Dr. George Tiller to Martin Luther King and said planting crosses was equivalent to actions by the Ku Klux Klan.
“This is the equivalent of Martin Luther King being assassinated,” Dr. Carhart said of the May 31 slaying of one of America’s best-known late-term abortion providers. “This is the equivalent of Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusitania and any other major historic event where we’ve tolerated the intolerable for too long.”
Joanne,
WOW. Gall.
“This is the equivalent of Martin Luther King being assassinated,” Dr. Carhart said of the May 31 slaying of one of America’s best-known late-term abortion providers. “This is the equivalent of Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusitania and any other major historic event where we’ve tolerated the intolerable for too long.”
Hi there,
I didn’t know much about Tiller until recently, but I know cover-up when I see it coming from AP and the media. In fact I was so moved that I wrote an article about it after reading background information and viewing gruesome footage of murdered and dismembered babies.
I tried to post a comment on a so-called ‘science and ethics” blog, saying that this abomination is precisely what happens when science is separated from ethics. I am also gratified to read here that any late-term emergency can and should be taken care of in a hospital. So bugger to those claims that Tiller the Killer was doing an invaluable service. Love you guys.
http://cabbagejuice.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/the-murderous-hypocrisy-of-the-church/
Love Thy Neighbor,
Anencephaly is a tragedy, but the solution is not murder.
http://babyfaithhope.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=50
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