(Prolifer)ations 6-24-09
by Kelli
Spotlighting important information gleaned from other pro-life blogs…
The adoption agency headed by Britain’s most senior Roman Catholic churchman declared yesterday that gay rights laws have forced it to stop trying to find potential homes for children….
The charity has pulled out of its principal role because it cannot reconcile Church teaching on marriage and the family with the demands of the Sexual Orientation Regulations, Labour’s gay rights laws that compel adoption agencies to assess same-sex couples as prospective parents as well as heterosexuals.
Archbishop of Westminster, Vincent Nichols, stated:
The trustees are convinced that what is best for children is that they be brought up by married couples. This is shown by research but it is also consonant with the teaching of the Church.
It would be totally unacceptable for our Catholic agency to act in a way that is at odds with the teaching of the Church.
“I’m disgusted and I’m saddened and I hate it that he’s here in Nebraska, and I hate it that he’s in America,” Bruning told KETV7. “I mean, this guy is one sick individual.”
… Carhart testified that he would sometimes dismember advanced-stage unborn babies during abortions, while the babies were still alive. Carhart described in detail the process of grasping the limb of the baby to be removed, and then twisting it off. When asked if the babies usually die during the process of dismemberment, Carhart responded, “I don’t really know. I know that the fetus is alive during the process most of the time because I can see the fetal heartbeat on the ultrasound.”
A plastic surgeon who just operates on all comers would be considered a quack. It’s his job to make sure the patient’s expectations about what this surgery will do for her are realistic.
Not so with abortion. She asked for it and that’s all he needs to know….
Imagine if any other surgery was being performed, on a self-referral basis, on patients suffering from a temporary condition that they’re not told is temporary. And I don’t mean that women don’t know pregnancy is temporary. I mean they don’t know that the feeling of being unable to cope – which is why they’re seeking abortion – is temporary.
If a patient stung by a stone fish begged a doctor to amputate his arm, and the doctor complied without telling that patient that the pain of a stone fish sting will fade in time and he’ll be glad to still have his arm, that doctor would probably not only have his license yanked, he’d probably be charged with assault against the patient.
But doctors… let women think that their normal and self-limiting distress is permanent and that the only way to escape it is abortion. They perform irreversible surgery which can do the patient real, lasting harm.
And this is considered somehow noble and responsible.
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Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Do these adoption agencies receive federal funding because I know the reason Catholic Charities in Boston was told they had to give gay couples the oppurtunity to adopt is because they get tax dollars. They could’ve gone by their own rules if they were privately funded.
“..And this is considered somehow noble and responsible”
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Only in the sick and twisted minds of abortion supporters…
Christina makes some very excellent points.
And, I really have to say, it is only fair for gay couples to be able to adopt children. They aren’t going to hurt the children- they are no more prone to violence than anyone else- and this law exists to give them the rights to be parents. The children will grow up in a home of love; orientation doesn’t matter.
Actually, Vannah, if you google domestic violence among gays, there is research to support that instances tend to be higher.
Christina,
Thank you.
“… Carhart testified that he would sometimes dismember advanced-stage unborn babies during abortions, while the babies were still alive.”
To just think about what a baby feels during a Carhart dismemberment procedure is just too difficult for me.
As a human being I want to defend the innocent child from Mr. Carhart (I don’t consider him to be a Dr.) How could any other thinking, rational, feeling person not feel the same way?
As a Christian, I am contrained to love this guy despite my indignation.
God have mercy on us.
Carhart described in detail the process of grasping the limb of the baby to be removed, and then twisting it off. When asked if the babies usually die during the process of dismemberment, Carhart responded, “I don’t really know. I know that the fetus is alive during the process most of the time because I can see the fetal heartbeat on the ultrasound.”
I think this is quite possibly the most depraved thing I have EVER read. I feel like vomiting.
Of all of the people who deserve to be tried for crimes against humanity (and convicted), Carhart is certainly one of the worst. What a cold, bigoted monster he is. How could anyone spend his entire life intent on denying the good within all people, intent on silencing pacifism and equal rights? It doesn’t make any sense. What could possibly be in it for him?
HisMan and Angel,
I couldn’t agree with you more. Its’ so unbelievably vile and evil.
How these people ever sleep at night I will never know.
This is as bad or worse than Mengele. Nothing more innocent than an unborn baby.
And I don’t call them “doctors” either.
regarding the British situation: The Catholic church warned it would leave the adoption business if this law was enacted. This leaves a huge hole in adoption agencies in the UK as the Catholic church was heavily involved in providing adoption services.
‘It is a sign of the Britain we are in. If you do not subscribe to the prevailing orthodoxy you might as well be living in the Soviet Union.
welcome to the new totalitarianism. It isn’t communism, it’s homosexualism. (otherwise known as heterophobia)
Of all of the people who deserve to be tried for crimes against humanity (and convicted), Carhart is certainly one of the worst. What a cold, bigoted monster he is.
Posted by: Vannah at June 24, 2009 3:39 PM
Absolutely! How can this be tolerated in a civilized society???
He seems to be saying this with no more emotion than if he was talking about a dog or a cat.
But wait. Many many people could never do this to a dog or cat…. never mind an innocent BABY.
As to what’s in it for him? Has to be money. Didn’t Tiller earn over a million a year?
Pro aborts completely ignore the profit motive and make the Tillers and Carharts heros motivated only by their strong desire to “help women.”
I would challenge even the most radical pro abort to read what Carhart has said and say it’s ok.
This is pure evil.
I don’t see why homosexuals couldn’t start their own adoption agencies and do their own thing for placement alongside Catholics. This is just ridiculous.
And I can’t even bring myself to call this thing “Mr. Carhart”. This is a monster, not a man. A ghoul masquerading as a man.
xalisae @ 3:49,
Good idea.
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What is truly sickening is the fact that what Carhart does is legal.
Let’s hope and pray that Carhart will experience a conversion and stop doing abortions. You may remember the wonderful story of the Serbian abortionist, Stojan Adasevic, who did just that.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111304.html
I don’t see why homosexuals couldn’t start their own adoption agencies and do their own thing for placement alongside Catholics. This is just ridiculous.
Posted by: xalisae at June 24, 2009 3:49 PM
because it’s all about hatred xalisae. It’s about a deep hatred of a religion that for the past 30 years has drawn a line in the sand and said NO when all other Christian denominations have capitulated.
Roman Catholicism honestly believes that homosexuality is disordered and that children are best adopted into families with a mother and a father. Social research supports this belief and has shown that children do best when adopted by married couples.
These children have already been through some amount of trauma and need the stability that a normal man and woman who are husband and wife can offer them.
IMO, homosexual couples are not interested in what unbiased social research proves. They are interested in their agenda which is to insist that they are like heterosexual couples in every way and therefore are discriminated against.
However, biologically they are not. Emotionally they are not. And socially they are not. This is the truth, but remember in our society today, truth is hate to those who hate the truth.
Jill’s post on Stojan Adasevic is better. :)
https://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/11/stojan_adasevic.html
“When asked if the babies usually die during the process of dismemberment, Carhart responded, “I don’t really know. I know that the fetus is alive during the process most of the time because I can see the fetal heartbeat on the ultrasound.””
Does this sound like a man who is fit to practice medicine? He is not well. Look at him.
What Carhart himself admitted to doing to fully formed human babies in the womb is EVIL. Satan is howling with laughter. Abortion is a covenant with death.
“I mean they don’t know that the feeling of being unable to cope – which is why they’re seeking abortion – is temporary.”
I’m about 2 days late to the conversation (better late than never? anyone?). But I wanted to add that when I saw the positive results on the tests for both my planned pregnancies, I instantly panicked. I had this feeling that I wanted to take it back, that I really wasn’t ready, that I was trapped, that I wanted a way out. I truly felt unable to cope. Although I had been intentionally trying for a baby, and was impatiently excited about taking pregnancy tests as soon as they could possibly be positive, I was overwhelmed with fear. My point is that those fleeting but intense feelings were obviously some sort of natural, psychological reaction, as they definitely didn’t reflect the reality of my situation or my desires. So this makes me strongly question the state of mind many woman are in when they seek an abortion. It strikes me as overtly taking advantage of a temporary psychological state to offer a permanent surgery as a solution. I’m not saying this is the case 100% of the time, but I suspect it is a frequent occurance.
After reading Carhart’s testimony, I would never call him a doctor or a physician, he is an ABORTIONIST, pure and simple. I have no doubt Hitler and he would have got along just fine. No, I would never condone violence against this man by a vigilante person but he should be tried for crimes against humanity and given the appropriate sentence in a court of law. When pro-aborts say you cannnot take away “a woman’s right to choose” fill in the blank with “to dismember the fetus who I know is alive during the process because I can see the fetal heartbeat on the ultrasound”. Do you pro-lifers notice how quiet the so-called pro-choicers get on this blog when the truth of what they are choosing comes out. Always make a pro-choicer fill in the blank when they say “woman’s right to choose”,m with what they are choosing to do. When they come up with pro-lifers have “no right to judge what happens between a woman and her “doctor”, this is the kind of barbaric butcher they are calling a “doctor”. God help them and this abortionist Carhart, as well.