(Prolifer)ations 12-4-09
by Kelli
Spotlighting important information gleaned from other pro-life blogs…
HIV and AIDS technical adviser, Matthew Hanley, notes the real, measurable success these programs can have: “First, actual changes in patterns of sexual behavior have led to the most significant reductions in HIV prevalence. Take the well-known case of Uganda, where the prevalence rate dropped from 15% in 1991 to a little over 5% in 2001. Behavior change was so thorough in Uganda that by the mid-1990s, 95% of adults in that country said they had only one partner or none at all. But it is not only Uganda.”
Hanley goes on to note that in other countries such as Kenya and Zimbabwe, fidelity has been shown to have the greatest impact on declining rates of HIV, and furthermore notes that countries like South Africa who have merely championed condoms have seen little movement in declining rates. Treating other STDs, providing voluntary counseling and testing, and teaching safe sex practices have been ineffective compared to programs that have successfully instituted abstinence programs.
As it turns out, almost half of all polled also view the United Nations as unreliable on the issue of global warming.
And on that note, Amy Proctor reports Al Gore has canceled his speech at the upcoming UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen.
Now when the women who sacrificed motherhood either by abortion or birth control look at Sarah, they can’t stand her, even if they can’t explain why. Because she was able to have a family and a career, they see her as having the best of both worlds. They see, in this confident, self-possessed, accomplished woman, surrounded by a loving family, everything they gave up.
Jill Stanek is a nurse turned speaker, columnist and blogger, a national figure in the effort to protect both preborn and postborn innocent human life.
Just out of curiosity:
What exactly is it about global warming that you don’t believe it?
I mean this as a friendly question. I would like to hear your opinion on this. :)
Here’s my view on why Sarah Palin continues to be under attack: She has a shallow and uneducated view of the world and its complexities. She was elevated way above her ability by John McCain in a cynical and desperate effort to change the direction of the ’08 campaign. She sees herself as a victim (of the Media, of the McCain campaign, etc). She’s a quitter. She’s plays a little loose with facts sometimes.
I don’t care that she has a family or is pro life.
Can’t wait to meet Sarah Palin on Monday!!
Hi Hal.
Hal,
Shallow, victim? I think she’s a threat to the STATUS QUO and that scares the heck out of the political establishment. She’s a conservative progressive. Could you give her the benefit of the doubt you’d give any male politician? She’s been in the public eye for a year.
Sheesh.
She has a shallow and uneducated view of the world and its complexities
Take the “s” out of she and you have Obama.
“Here’s my view on why Sarah Palin continues to be under attack: She has a shallow and uneducated view of the world and its complexities….I don’t care that she has a family or is pro life.”
I f she weren’t pro-life you’d respect her a little bit more…come on. I’d say your comment is pretty shallow. She has practical experience that Obama doesn’t have. Some of us aren’t impressed by Ivy league educations when common sense and real life experience isn’t part of the equation. Look at what a great job Obama is doing at jump-starting the economy.
Posted by: Phillymiss at December 4, 2009 2:05 PM
There you go! You beat me to it! :)
Wait, the Priests for Life executive director is a woman? Well, isn’t that the cat’s pajamas! :)
I hadn’t known. XD
Hi Carla.
Hi Hal.(are we in a fight?)
Janet Morana is also the cofounder of Silent No More Awareness. Totally the cat’s pajamas!! :)
http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org
Carla, if we’re fighting, I’ll apologize. (see what a guy can learn in 20 years of marriage?)
But I don’t think we’re fighting.
Hal, I thought you were describing Barack Obama! Uneducated and narrow views…plays with the facts. Yeah, you ARE describing Barack Obama.
Sarah Palin is under attack because of the truth about her past. See ProlifeProfiles.com/Palin
I was reading her book and in it she said that the media got it wrong when they said she only believes in abstinence only education. She corrected the record by stating that she believes contraception should be handed out to kids.
She also talked about the temptation to kill her son Trig BEFORE she ever knew he had down syndrome. Imagine reading Oskar Schindler’s biography and he said that he once tempted to kill a Jew because he knew it was legal and no one would have to know. You would never hear that for someone that truly cares about the innocent.
Sydney – you have to admit that while Obama is fumbling as president, he is the most educated and most-read president we’ve had in at least 30 years. His JD from Harvard trumps any degree earned by Reagan, Clinton, or either Bush. He reads almost as many books as cigarette packs he smokes through in a week.
A terrible president thus far, due to his unwillingness to fight and engage political opponents. But the guy’s got a hell of a brain (which makes his lack of courage even more puzzling). He should have remained a lawyer, IMO.
On another note –
Janet Morana has twisted logic. In the quote above, she is arguing that women who either decide not to have children or use birth control resent women who do have children. Why must there be a rivalry between women who chose to procreate and those who don’t? Why are women who choose not to reproduce not successful, in her eyes? That’s really twisted and mean-spirited. Pun intended – she’s anti-choice on a lot of levels, huh?
“Priests for Life Executive Director Janet Morana shares her view on why Sarah Palin continues to be under attack:
Now when the women who sacrificed motherhood either by abortion or birth control look at Sarah, they can’t stand her, even if they can’t explain why. Because she was able to have a family and a career, they see her as having the best of both worlds. They see, in this confident, self-possessed, accomplished woman, surrounded by a loving family, everything they gave up.”
I don’t think Morana is saying she thinks women who don’t reproduce are not successful. I think she’s saying that women may feel she is a symbol of what they have given up – having children. She’s out there in the public eye and hard to ignore. Does that make sense?
Connie,
Page numbers please. :)
Hal,
We are good. :)
Have a great weekend!
Janet Morana has twisted logic. In the quote above, she is arguing that women who either decide not to have children or use birth control resent women who do have children. Why must there be a rivalry between women who chose to procreate and those who don’t? Why are women who choose not to reproduce not successful, in her eyes?
She’s saying that women who have bought into the lie that you can’t be successful and still be a mother (and who chose success over motherhood for that reason), are bitter when someone comes along who shatters that lie. These are also women who killed their children to further their careers and need to beleive that their killing their babies was “necessary” in order to be successful. When successful women that prove you don’t need drugs or surgery to be successful show up, those women that take pills and climb in stirrups to gain or keep their success get both angry and sad-and tend to lash out the one they perceive to be causing them pain- rather than those who lied to them in the first place.
Yes, there are women that never want to have children (yet, still want to have sex) who don’t envy Palin’s brood. But she is still a threat to them in that she represents the whole of femininity that they have rejected.
Yes, there are women that never want to have children (yet, still want to have sex) who don’t envy Palin’s brood. But she is still a threat to them in that she represents the whole of femininity that they have rejected.
There is no way Palin is a threat or a source of envy to women who have chosen, on their own, not to have children.
And no, women do not get elective abortions to further their careers. There are hundreds of possible reasons. Some women know that they are not ready to be a mother. Others decide that they already have the number of children that they want. The majority of women who get an abortion in their lifetime, also raise a child in their lifetime. It is not a black and white issue. Like the abortion debate itself, there are many shades of gray.
I am married to someone who, like me, does not want children. I don’t think either of us are failing to live-up to standards of masculinity or femininity. We simply chose to pursue other interests. Amazing that other people have the time to judge and/or analyze such a choice.
Or like me, they felt they had no other choice and were lied to and coerced in the abortion clinic and were SOLD an abortion! I was terrified, alone and poor and was told I was making the best decision. I was also told it was “just a bunch of cells.”
Not too long ago their was a woman blogging about an abortion she was thinking of getting. Her reasoning for it? Her career.
You make it sound like the killing of your own child through abortion is so noble and any reason a woman can give justifies her child’s death.
Dhalgren,
It’s your position that women have to be able to access contraceptives and abortion in order to have equal opportunities as men. In fact, it’s this combo of pills/patches/rubbers/cream/surgeries that allow you to “pursue other interests.” If you didn’t have legal access to these things, you would not be able to.
So basically, you position and lifestyle assert that women can not do what they want to do in their lives without abortion. These other interests (be they career or otherwise) is something you don’t feel you could do without hormones and chemicals and dismembered baby parts in a pan.
So when women come along that do everything they want, kick all sorts of butt and still have children- that’s an assault to people that feel like they couldn’t do those things if they had children.
Worse, women who rationalized their decisions to abort because they felt like they had to choose between themselves and their babies, motherhood and poverty vs. childless and earning, or babies v. education or babies v. traveling or whatever the reasons compelled the abortion- when they see women that travel with babies or have degrees with babies or succeed in their career with babies, that offends them. It says that they couldn’t. For those that regret their abortion, it makes them hurt even more.
In regards to femininity- how are you embracing your femininity if you are sabotaging those parts of your physiology that make you feminine, not to mention the maternal need to protect (as opposed to attacking) ones babies? So, yes, I think you are in diametric opposition to femininity and Palin epitomizes it- and that is what offends people.
Dhalgren…I am friends with law enforcement officers and know personally of female officers getting abortions because it would have ruined their careers and caused resentment in their male counterparts to continue a pregnancy. I’m not saying thats fair…it is sexism to the core but there you have it. The female cops had to sacrifice motherhood to gain promotions otherwise they weren’t viewed as committed to the force…unlike the male cops who could be parents no prob. Abortions for sake of furthering a career DO happen!
Posted by: Jacque at December 4, 2009 9:58 PM
Excellent comment!
‘And no, women do not get elective abortions to further their careers.’
Wow. How out of touch can you be? Yeah, there’s lots of reasons women abort their little girl and little boy fetuses, and furthering their careers is a big one. Consider how many women abort in college, so as not to have any roadblock to their careers.
In my field, it is very common that opera singers and professional dancers get abortions for career reasons. Sexism persists in the arts big time.
The climate in many career fields has not allowed for women with children, even now. With abortion as a ‘choice’, why would men and women without much interest in children change business structures so that women with children can have the same access?
I just don’t see how one can not be aware of this. Denial, I guess. The pro-choice mentality effectively becomes an either/or for many, many women- hence the ‘refuse to choose’ motto of Feminists for Life.
There are also some issues in the military with female servicemembers who get pregnant. NOT all male soldiers see it this way, but there are many who would become resentful of a pregnant female soldier because she tends to be seen as getting pregnant just to shirk her duties – so she doesn’t get deployed, have to do regular PT, and gets off work for more frequent doctor’s appointments.
Because of this attitude, I suspect that there are some female soldiers who get abortions rather than carry a pregnancy because they don’t want to be seen as a freeloader. I don’t know of any personally, but I don’t socialize with soldiers much either, whether male or female (except my husband, of course).
Women get abortions all the time so that they won’t be “held back” in school/career by raising a child. Female employees are knocked if their child-related responsibilities “interfere” too much with their work duties (such as having to leave early or take off work due to a sick child who needs tending).
One of the best articles I have ever read on the topic of Uganda, abstinence education, AIDS and the “show me the money” shell game was written by Rev. Sam Ruteikara (co-chair of Uganda’s National AIDPrevention Committee) in the Washington Post titled “Let My People Go, AIDS Profiteers”
//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/29/AR2008062901477 The article tells of the lies and deception the Western AIDS experts told to promote their own sexual agenda and to increase their profits. Promoting abstinence with their ABC campaign only cost 29 cents per person per year but treating one AIDS patient with anti-viral drugs cost more that $1,000 a year. The Western experts went to the lengths to lie and state that the HIV infection rate among married couples was 42%, twice as high as the rate among prostitutes, when in fact the rate is only 6.3%, far lower that the rate among widowed (31.4%) or divorced (13.9%) Ugandans. If you haven’t read the article take the time it is very enlightening.
I love Rev.Ruteikara’s last three sentences. “Let my people go, AIDS profiteers. We understand that casual sex is dear to you, but staying alive is dear to us. Listen to African wisdom, and we will show you how to prevent AIDS.” Satan indeed is the father of lies, and he comes to kill, steal and destroy just as the Bible says.
Ooh, Prolifer L,
I remember that article and also love the last lines of TRUTH!!
ProLifer L and Carla,
Seems to me that foreign countries might be better off without our interference.
I forgot to end my link on the Washington Post article with _pf.html. Carla it is so true. We can never forget we are in a spiritual warfare against the “father of lies”. One of my favorite chants I have learned at Pro-life rallys is “Planned Parenthood lies to You”, the whole premise of abortion is based on lies. The lies that PP teachs and promotes, that sexual immorality and perversion will bring freedom when all it brings is bondage, disease, emotional hurt, unplanned pregnancies, fatherless children, infertility, addictions, depression, suicide, death to the spirit, heart and bodies of women and the most horrible thing, ABORTION, death to precious, innocent, unborn babies. I know you know the pain of abortion Carla and what hurt it causes women, I have relatives who believed the lies also and thought abortion would give them freedom but they know now it was all a lie. Just like Rev. Rutiekara discovered these so-called AIDS experts were not there to truly help his fellow Ugandans but to sell them the lie that they could have “safe sex” without consequences (while they made a profit), the Ugandans knew the real answer for their people was to follow God’s commandments, because God loves us so much he knows what is best for us. No amount of condoms, pills, patches, shots, vaccines, anti-viral drugs,abortions or anything else will truly set people free and give them abundant life. “The truth will set you free.” God bless you in your work Carla and may he help our country.
You are right Janet. Rev. Rutiekara states “In the late 1980s, before international experts arrived to tell us we had it all “wrong” we in Uganda devided a practical campaign to prevent the spread of HIV….the ABC (Abstain, or Be FAithful or use Condoms) campaign but our main message was Stick to one partner. We promoted condoms only as a last resort…Ugandans infected with HIV plunged from 21 % to 6%.”
Oops meant to quote “we in Uganda devised”. Sorry for the typo.
Janet,
It would behoove us to watch what we “export.” We should know better.
Prolifer L,
If your relatives would like to let their voices be heard in our state legislatures they can fill out a declaration with Operation Outcry online.
http://www.operationoutcry.org
Their declarations will be used in prolife legislation.
If your relatives need to find abortion recovery services in their area or would be interested in the book I am working on…please let me know!!
There is great joy for me to watch God redeem the pain of abortion in my life. Amazing Grace.
Thanks Carla I will pass your information on. One of my relatives is working on a book where she tells her abortion story. She sent it to me to read and I was stunned even though this was many years ago. It was painful to read. She now volunteers and does counseling at a CPC where she lives. Grace is truly amazing.
I think that is why it angers me when pro-aborts spew out on this blog all their “abortion helps women”, “you fetus-lovers don’t care about women”, abortion is healthcare” “premarital sex between consenting adults doesn’t hurt anybody” “what women do to their bodies is no one elses business” garbage, all the while we are stacking up almost 50 million dead babies and millions of women and men among the walking wounded or emotionally dead. I do fear for my country I think it was something that the late Ruth Graham said “If God doesn’t judge America he will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah”.
Thanks, Miss Janet.
Anyone would agree that sexual abstinence and marital fidelity leaves no room possibility of AIDS, the sad thing is that the rape rates are so high in Africa, especially AIDS-carrying men that rape virgins to “cure” themselves.
I will be praying for the relative who is working on her book!! I have read and heard thousands of abortion stories of regret. They are painful and heart wrenching. But they must be told. Over and over and over. I know I must sound like a broken record here sometimes but “back alley abortion”(along with a wire hanger)has been spewed for almost 40 years….it will take some more time before we consider killing babies and wounding women through abortion unthinkable.
Amen Ruth Graham. Amen.